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Title: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: George2Loose on June 05, 2014, 11:09:58 PM Hand 1 (been at table one round of the button- no solid reads)
Blinds 400/800/100 Open button with Aces. BB is effective stack with 24k. Peels Flop J93r. He check calls 2k. Turn Jack. BB checks. We? Hand 2 Few hands later ep opens to 3.5k at 500/1000. Stacks are 60k effective (bb has 50). We peel with AK as does BB. Flop is AT3ss. We have As. Checks to us and we bet 5600. Both call Turn is 7s giving us nfd. bb checks. EP raiser now bets 14k with 35 behind We? Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: PathFinder on June 05, 2014, 11:57:01 PM Hand 1 (been at table one round of the button- no solid reads) Blinds 400/800/100 Open button with Aces. BB is effective stack with 24k. Peels Flop J93r. He check calls 2k. Turn Jack. BB checks. We? Hand 2 Few hands later ep opens to 3.5k at 500/1000. Stacks are 60k effective (bb has 50). We peel with AK as does BB. Flop is AT3ss. We have As. Checks to us and we bet 5600. Both call Turn is 7s giving us nfd. bb checks. EP raiser now bets 14k with 35 behind We? Hand 1 - i would check back turn and look to call river Hand 2 - call seems good to me Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: muckthenuts on June 06, 2014, 01:40:32 AM Same as Pathfinder, checking back turn evaluating but looking to call a lot of rivers. People like to fight for pots button vs bb so we'll keep worse hands and his floats in this way and he can potentially still value bet a worse hand with this line otr. B/f turn i don't think is as good.
Hand 2 yeah call, confused by his line but not folding so see what happens on the river. Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: theprawnidentity on June 06, 2014, 03:33:22 AM Hand 1 I bet turn (4100-ish).
Hand 2 I'm all like call. Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: cambridgealex on June 06, 2014, 03:49:36 AM 1) Close between ~3600 and check back, opp dependant
2) call and fold river unimproved to a jam Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: pleno1 on June 06, 2014, 06:34:22 AM Reads? May 3bet hand 2. He nd 1 almost always check back and call river/raise on certain sizes/cards
Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: George2Loose on June 06, 2014, 12:12:50 PM Hand 1 I checked backed. River is 9. Bb bets 5400 into 8kish
Hand 2 I called and folded river when villain shoved. I think turn spot in hand 1 is quite interesting. Any love for bet folding? Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: PathFinder on June 06, 2014, 12:45:09 PM In regards to bet folding I doubt that scenario would often come up against a competent villian. He's likely to just flat a turn bet if you decide to barrell again. I just think checking back the turn keeps villians range as wide as possible on the river which makes calling a bet so much easier. If we bet turn and villian just calls his range is much stronger on the river and contains zero air (without reads). Meaning when he checks river it's harder for us to bet for value and we end having to bet fold the river, which is the nut worst line for our hand.
Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: PathFinder on June 06, 2014, 12:46:24 PM In regards to bet folding I doubt that scenario would often come up against a competent villian. He's likely to just flat a turn bet if you decide to barrell again with his value hands and just raise with all his air. I just think checking back the turn keeps villians range as wide as possible on the river which makes calling a bet so much easier. If we bet turn and villian just calls his range is much stronger on the river and contains zero air (without reads). Meaning when he checks river it's harder for us to bet for value and we end having to bet fold the river, which is the nut worst line for our hand. Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: theprawnidentity on June 06, 2014, 12:47:04 PM Hand 1 I'm defo bet folding turn. As played I think I'm folding to this bet too.
Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: lucky_scrote on June 06, 2014, 01:26:38 PM 1) Close between ~3600 and check back, opp dependant 2) call and fold river unimproved to a jam This. I like the sizing too. I might even go a little smaller. I can't imagine he will c/r that turn without the goods when we bet 2 streets. Title: Re: 250 deepie online. 2 turn spots Post by: wazz on June 08, 2014, 12:55:50 PM Lots of different reasons to check or bet hand 1, both should be fine. Wouldn't expect to be c/red very often if I did bet, if I did it would be because of a pre-existing aggressive dynamic in which case I'm unlikely to be folding.
Hand 2 I think I might fold. |