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Scotland is buzzing for this. Best Scotland team we have had in the last 20 Years. No real heroes but a lot of heart and playing for the Jersey. and against the Worst England Team I can recall??

Game on. 2-1 Scotland.

Given all that do we get to rip the piss out of you if we win?  ;danafish;

One all. Hodgson to tell England fans about the team's fantastic performance.

Position vs position england have the better player in each position, should have used the friendly to play someone we would be likely to meet in the last 16 of knockout stages.

Ye Okay.

I am really surprised England are odds against for this.  Def looks a case of Scotland being over rated i think here.  They got injuries and the vast majority of their team are championship players.  Think the hype on Scotland recently has created a rare spot where England are actually value.

Really looking forward to it though being half English/half scottish (when it suits ;D).  The match should take place every year like the old days.  Can't believe it's 15 years since the last one.

Ditto.

Edit.... we do that week in week out anyway.  ;danafish; ;danafish; ;karabiner;

How've Scotland gone from shit to good inside 2 years? Seems very form based. Suppose that's what a few points get you.

Two shit teams, and the 1-1 looks about right...

0 - 0 for me.

Nobody wants to get injured, nobody wants to lose, few risks.

Am also on the unders.

(Cue a 2 - 2 thriller)

Seems the Scots are up for it, I really don't give a shit TBH, stopped being interested in England matches several years ago.

Should play home internationals at least every two years. Far better preparation for major completions to have people showing real pride in the shirt, kicking you up in the air in front of a baying crowd than playing a South American team that isn't that bothered.

I think it's the best way of getting people interested in England internationals, too.

They nearly got a draw against Germany!

Not aaaaive scotland fan, but looking forward to this.

Didn't they play last year?

yes you are right.  I read somewhere today it was 15 years since last one.  Obviously incorrect.

In the early 21st century there have again been suggestions that the British Home Championship should be restored to the schedule, or at least for the England v Scotland fixture to be played more regularly.[43][44] There was some speculation that England would invite Scotland to be their first opponents when Wembley Stadium was re-opened in 2007,[45] but this did not happen. There was further talk of organising a one-off England v Scotland match at the end of the 2007–08 season,[46] but the Scotland manager George Burley was opposed to this timing and the match was not arranged.[47] On 16 June 2012, The Football Association announced that England would play Scotland in August 2013 as part of their 150th anniversary celebrations.[48] England won an entertaining friendly fixture by 3–2, after Scotland had twice taken the lead.[49]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England%E2%80%93Scotland_football_rivalry

It was a good game last year. Not a great fan of betting on Friendlies tbh so just watching tonight.

the crowd looks totally bonkers.  Would love to be there. 

Of course they're bonkers, they're Scottish!

;)

Wow, that was a proper fuck you goal lol!!!  ;cheerleader;

Reckon we out sung 'em also, that first goal shut them up  ;danafish;

congratulations england making hard work beating a championship side

Hard work?  Don't think Scotland looked like getting anything from the game at any point, how many times did they give us the ball or put it out of play

Ye better Team won. We were poor.

scotland was terrible i think too many players put too much into the ireland game and had nothing left in the tank

england were by far the better team in quailty and heart but they took untiill the 85th minute to finish us off

they could of been 4 or 5 nil up by then based on the quailty

i call that making hard work winning the game

Alternatively, we are just miles better and you had zero chance anyway. You were having yet another false dawn we crushed for the umpteenth time lol  ;cheerleader;

There is no dawn false or otherwise we have 1 player in a top team in Europe and he is no more that a squad player nowadays and Man U aren't in Europe  and might not make it next season.

Until we can get better standard of player Scotland rely on hard work grit determination and luck we just didn't turn up and were beaten  by a team worth 15x the amount the Scottish team is worth

would buy heavily at 15 times more!!!  Maybe 50 times more.

Think it was the first Scotland v England game in Scotland for 15 years.

'You're British till you die', FAF bet they loved that one  rotflmfao

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-match-reports/scotland-v-england-three-lions-4653135

scottish team about 9.5 million English about 145 million

Break down please.  Can't believe the england team is only worth £145m.

Naismith really worth 9.5m ?

Too good!

We do all agree that the English players are overvalued, though, right?

(No Southampton fans may answer that question)

Yea english players are over valued, but have been for the last 15 year or so, always have to play over the odds for an English player

And when was the last time you watched England and thought, "that's a £150m team"?

Just playing Diablo Avocado here.

I thought Scotland played well. Just didn't have someone to hold the ball up up front, so they couldn't stop England winning it in midfield and pressing. The second goal killed the game off.

Luke Shaw £30 million, Adam Lallana £25 million that's just two of your exSaints boys.

Heaven only knows what Sterling is worth now.

Wilshere and the Ox must be well over £30 milly each. (I'd cash in on the thug if I was Arsene, but that's another story)

Think the Arbster is closer than you Iron.

Sterling probably worth 3m giving his performances recently.

When you take into consideration hart, Cahill, wilshere sterling Henderson rooney welbeck your already past 150m

If there were a transfer market for National players, where Azerbaijan could buy Messi and so on, England would be less than £100m if you didn't include Rooney's commercial revenue and Joe Hart's shampoo.

If the performances for club matched those for country, we England fans would not be anywhere near as grumpy.

ok i will give you that england are wort 50x what scotland is just goes to prove my point england made hard work of beating an inferior side who were also having an off day

fair do's england won fair and square but they should win 90% of time v scotland

Hard work? Looked pretty easy to me

Yup, we're just cruising after the second goal and then stepped it up when they needed to to get the third.

Hmmm, not sure if many of these posts are trying to level Iron. 

England deserved to win no doubt but it was hardly emphatic.  That was England at their best imo, they don't get much better as has been seen in the last number of major tournaments they have been in. 

The entitlement that runs through many England fans is astonishing.  You have the most over hyped leage in the world, your best players aren't that great.  I generally can't recall the last world class player who was home grown who actually achieved anything, Becks perhaps? 

At least we Scots know we're shit and accept it.  But if there was a fair split of the revenues going into Scotland/Wales/NI leagues and Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL things would be far dfferent. 

If Sky hadn't bankrolled the EPL our national team would be far better

would be far less overseas players, far more more domestic players getting into starting line ups and the champions league and more of our top players would have gone to play abroad, helping them to become world class

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the result of this game would have been different if it had been a) a competitive fixture such as a major event qualifier b) played before the Ireland game as a warm up

As it was England won comfortably as Scotland's terrific result againt Ireland took a lot out of the team

the man speaks sense

Wor Hadrian had the right idea.

yeah build a wall stop you guys robbing us blind

I don't think are any good at all. Worst england team I can remember. But this awful england team still made light work of Scotland.

I wouldn't say it was light work.  Best team on night won though. 

How old are you George?

Graham Taylor picked;

Flowers,
Earl Barrett
Tony Dorigo
Pallister
Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Ripley
Nigel Clough
Alan Smith

They were dark days indeed.

amazing looking back at some of the characters who won england caps!

Taylor made some strange picks, but I don't remember that team being so bad.  The match where we lost 2-0 to Holland to fail to qualify for the world cup I remember us playing really well till we went behind.  Mind you I've just remembered how bad we were losing 2-0 to Norway. 

How dare you include Andy Sinton in that list.

The tricky wing wizard deserved to win 75 caps.






















(In my opinion)

Carlton Palmer though.

Nigel Clough hardly proves your thesis about Taylor tbh

Sinton was one of my favourite players as a youngster.  Remember that QPR team well - Sinton, Big Les, Bardsley, Clive Wilson, Wilkins, Holloway, Barker.  Nice team to watch.

Tim Flowers was a decent goalkeeper for the majority of the times, sure he had some howlers but most keepers throw in a wobbler now and then.  

Tony Dorrigo was a good left back, Pallister in is prime was a decent centre half the problem was the partnership imo at international level.  Ripley was decent from what I remember I'd suggest England never really played to hs strengths.  

Interesting choice of players. Some pretty good IMO.

No doubt we will be able to look back at Hodgson's time and do the same thing. Amazing stat I heard the other night was that 60 players have won caps in his 2 1/2 years at the helm. Most are still playing in the Premier League.

http://www.englandfootballonline.com/teammgr/Mgr_HodgsonPlyrsApps.html

Wilson was fantastic. A Rolls Royce of a player.

Unruffled, never gave the ball away, quick and intelligent.

And never missed penalties.

According to transfermarkt.co.uk, only 2 of Scotland's top 10 valued players played against England, including none of the top 7.

Marshall - 2.2m
Whittaker - 1.76m
R.Martin - 2.64m
Hanley - 2.2m
Robertson - 3.08m
Brown - 3.96m
Mulgrew - 2.64m
Anya - 0.88m
Maloney - 1.76m
Naismith - 3.52m
C.Martin - 1.5m

Total = £26.14m


Forster - 8.8m
Clyne - 6.16m
Cahill - 17.6m
Smalling - 10.56m
Shaw - 19.36m
Oxlade-Chamberlain - 14.08m
Wilshere - 26.4m
Downing - 3.52m
Milner - 12.32m
Welbeck - 15.84m
Rooney - 39.6m

Total = £174.24

Carlton Palmer though.
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My wife and I appeared on the Sky Poker show with Carlton.He was a really friendly guy.He was in the restaurant business at the time if I remember correctly. The Orf was presenting and Carlo Citrone analysing that show.Good weekend that was.  :D

that must be wrong england are valued 50x scotland team according to arbboy and camel

If the Ox is only worth 14m, I'm a Dutchman

A ot of this figures look wrong. Forster has devalued by 1.2m since going to Southampton?

we over paid lol

ok you was robbed

are you koeman in disguise?

anyone try taking clyne off the saints for less than 20 million there will be a riot