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Title: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: scotty77 on December 31, 2014, 02:08:15 AM Enjoy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_8700/index.html (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_8700/index.html) Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: bobAlike on December 31, 2014, 03:05:28 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims?
Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 03:16:52 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: leethefish on December 31, 2014, 04:23:55 PM About 25 years ago someone held up the bank where my mum worked putting a shotgun in her face .......
I don't think she has ever got over it So when I read something like Parking outside a branch of the National Bank, he forced his way inside carrying an AK-47 rifle. He ordered staff to open the ATM, and snatched 150,000 euros. Then he took 100,000 euros from the cash boxes, and in moments he was gone. I don't really care where the money went. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: bobAlike on December 31, 2014, 05:20:04 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 05:42:25 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: Doobs on December 31, 2014, 05:58:34 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 06:07:59 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: horseplayer on December 31, 2014, 06:15:39 PM About 25 years ago someone held up the bank where my mum worked putting a shotgun in her face ....... I don't think she has ever got over it So when I read something like Parking outside a branch of the National Bank, he forced his way inside carrying an AK-47 rifle. He ordered staff to open the ATM, and snatched 150,000 euros. Then he took 100,000 euros from the cash boxes, and in moments he was gone. I don't really care where the money went. Agreed I was very lucky i worked in a bank when this happened, luckily for me i was doing some paperwork way out the back and only realised what had happened when the tosser was running away The impact on one of the cashiers was massive went from confident and articulate to a quivering wreck and eventually could not do any work anymore. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: Doobs on December 31, 2014, 06:19:31 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot? Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 06:49:14 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot? Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: bobAlike on December 31, 2014, 07:11:00 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. I should have just asked - is it ever ok to steal? Personally I think not. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 07:16:07 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. I should have just asked - is it ever ok to steal? Personally I think not. Not even if it's a crust of bread when you're starving to death in a Japanese prisoner of war camp? Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: Mohican on December 31, 2014, 07:47:15 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. I should have just asked - is it ever ok to steal? Personally I think not. Not even if it's a crust of bread when you're starving to death in a Japanese prisoner of war camp? Read the book- King Rat by James Clavell or watch the film. Deals with this sort of thing in many ways. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 07:53:15 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. I should have just asked - is it ever ok to steal? Personally I think not. Not even if it's a crust of bread when you're starving to death in a Japanese prisoner of war camp? It's an interesting point. I do know that prisoners in Auschwitz were doomed to starvation if they lost their soup-bowl. If it did happen, they would steal one from a fellow prisoner without compunction. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: Mohican on December 31, 2014, 07:56:40 PM Check out my edit to post.
Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: Doobs on December 31, 2014, 08:03:22 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot? Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case. I just substituted banker for Gypsy. You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points. I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious. Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to. Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves]. That is effectively what you said. Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un. The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: scotty77 on December 31, 2014, 08:11:12 PM Didn't expect this thread to take this turn - just thought it was a very interesting story!
Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 08:29:19 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot? Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case. I just substituted banker for Gypsy. You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points. I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious. Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to. Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves]. That is effectively what you said. Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un. The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains. I agree that I compared bankers to thieves, which was probably out of order. I didn't intend to give offense, merely to introduce the 'Depends on the circumstances' debate'. I did not however compare bankers, or anyone else to Kim Jong Un. For clarity, I don't condone the antics of the so-called Greek Robin Hood. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: Doobs on December 31, 2014, 09:00:00 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot? Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case. I just substituted banker for Gypsy. You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points. I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious. Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to. Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves]. That is effectively what you said. Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un. The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains. I agree that I compared bankers to thieves, which was probably out of order. I didn't intend to give offense, merely to introduce the 'Depends on the circumstances' debate'. I did not however compare bankers, or anyone else to Kim Jong Un. For clarity, I don't condone the antics of the so-called Greek Robin Hood. Sorry if I caused offense, I shouldn't get so grouchy, I have never even been a banker. But the ones I have met mostly seem like decent people. Even the worst offenders were mostly incompetent rather than the pictures that are painted of them. Anyway, happy new year. Hope next year is a good one for all Yorkshiremen. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2014, 09:13:10 PM Very much an anti-hero. Always feel strange with stories that glamorise criminality, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? The first two categories usually also qualify for the last one. But does it make it right? There are not enough details to form an opinion. Each case would be different. If for example, someone robbed Kim Jong-un and gave the proceeds to the Syrian refugees, I for one would be fine with it. Sure there are enough details. He is an armed robber, he gives some of his money away to keep people quiet/ease his conscience whatever. Still an armed robber and still terrifies people. The banks aren't Kim Jong Un, thieves or anything close. Easy targets though. The question was, is it ok to steal from the rich/banks/other crims? Very broad imo. The Gypsies often qualify as thieves. Maybe we should compare them to some a North Korean despot? Question isn't broad, you are labelling good people bad, and struggling with somebody who is a genuine armed robber. I wrote several replies and then deleted them because they all came across like I was sore about you using my ethnicity to score a point in a trivial debate, which is definitely not the case. I just substituted banker for Gypsy. You were the one using an easy target to score cheap points. I was just changing one word to let you know what you were doing as you seemed oblivious. Of course having worked in financial services I get a bit grouchy about all the cheap points scoring, just as I'd expect you to. Bankers "usually also qualify as" [thieves]. That is effectively what you said. Then you made a pretty offensive comparison to Kim Jong Un. The bankers are the victims in this story, not the villains. I agree that I compared bankers to thieves, which was probably out of order. I didn't intend to give offense, merely to introduce the 'Depends on the circumstances' debate'. I did not however compare bankers, or anyone else to Kim Jong Un. For clarity, I don't condone the antics of the so-called Greek Robin Hood. Sorry if I caused offense, I shouldn't get so grouchy, I have never even been a banker. But the ones I have met mostly seem like decent people. Even the worst offenders were mostly incompetent rather than the pictures that are painted of them. Anyway, happy new year. Hope next year is a good one for all Yorkshiremen. I'm sorry too. I can be a bit blunt a times. Title: Re: The Greek Robin Hood Post by: bobAlike on January 01, 2015, 12:03:01 AM Didn't expect this thread to take this turn - just thought it was a very interesting story! Dewi starts all the great threads. |