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Title: Trolling
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2015, 06:54:39 PM
What is it?

Appears to be if someone disagrees with a commonly held view on an internet forum they are considered a troll.

Amirite?


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: Woodsey on January 23, 2015, 06:57:23 PM
Gets thrown around by lots of people on here when someone disagrees with them.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: TightEnd on January 23, 2015, 06:58:35 PM
posting things you do not believe purely to get a negative reaction from another poster, ie posting to wind them up

whether some people actually believe some of the things they post is a tough judgement call to make (and the best trolls know which side of the line to pitch the post), and the lines between debate and trolling get blurred!


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: EvilPie on January 23, 2015, 07:05:09 PM
You've clearly just started this thread to make a point about people disagreeing with you in another thread.

Why not just come out and say what you're really thinking?


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: EvilPie on January 23, 2015, 07:05:32 PM
There ya go.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: nirvana on January 23, 2015, 07:07:46 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: Claw75 on January 23, 2015, 07:09:53 PM
yup pretty much someone who goes around posting deliberately inflammatory stuff on t'interwebs for the sole purpose of getting a reaction out of people - usually anonymously.

I'm interested in how people pronounce the word - I've always said it to rhyme with bowling which i assumed was right, but I seem to be in a minority


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: Claw75 on January 23, 2015, 07:10:31 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

you should revive your most excellent diary


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: nirvana on January 23, 2015, 07:11:47 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

you should revive your most excellent diary

Cheers, i may, and its as in trolley


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: redsimon on January 23, 2015, 07:12:21 PM

you should revive your most excellent diary
posting things you do not believe purely to get a negative reaction from another poster, ie posting to wind them up

whether some people actually believe some of the things they post is a tough judgement call to make (and the best trolls know which side of the line to pitch the post), and the lines between debate and trolling get blurred!

you trolling claw? :)


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: Claw75 on January 23, 2015, 07:13:45 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

you should revive your most excellent diary

Cheers, i may, and its as in trolley

is that for 'troll' and 'trolling' or just 'trolling'?

maybe it's just coz i'm from sayff laahndan


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: RED-DOG on January 23, 2015, 07:13:55 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

We?


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: Claw75 on January 23, 2015, 07:14:19 PM

you should revive your most excellent diary
posting things you do not believe purely to get a negative reaction from another poster, ie posting to wind them up

whether some people actually believe some of the things they post is a tough judgement call to make (and the best trolls know which side of the line to pitch the post), and the lines between debate and trolling get blurred!

you trolling claw? :)

oops - busted


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: nirvana on January 23, 2015, 07:15:40 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

We?

Tomorrow :)


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: nirvana on January 23, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

you should revive your most excellent diary

Cheers, i may, and its as in trolley

is that for 'troll' and 'trolling' or just 'trolling'?

maybe it's just coz i'm from sayff laahndan

Troll bowl foal


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: cambridgealex on January 23, 2015, 07:17:34 PM
posting things you do not believe purely to get a negative reaction from another poster, ie posting to wind them up

whether some people actually believe some of the things they post is a tough judgement call to make (and the best trolls know which side of the line to pitch the post), and the lines between debate and trolling get blurred!

This.

When you made a comment in the other thread that I disagreed with, I made my point with my reasons - that's a debate. When arrboy suggested that you didn't even believe what you were saying then he's suggesting you were trolling. You then said you genuinely do believe that the best tournament player is whoever has the highest ROI, so fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: RED-DOG on January 23, 2015, 07:17:49 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

you should revive your most excellent diary

Cheers, i may, and its as in trolley

is that for 'troll' and 'trolling' or just 'trolling'?

maybe it's just coz i'm from sayff laahndan

Troll bowl foal


Troll doll lol


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: leethefish on January 23, 2015, 07:20:44 PM
You've clearly just started this thread to make a point about people disagreeing with you in another thread.

Why not just come out and say what you're really thinking?


Which thread evil man?


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: DaveShoelace on January 23, 2015, 07:22:19 PM
Since the stats thread im getting really concerned that we're starting really dull threads..like just to keepthe numbers up

you should revive your most excellent diary

Cheers, i may, and its as in trolley

is that for 'troll' and 'trolling' or just 'trolling'?

maybe it's just coz i'm from sayff laahndan

Troll bowl foal


Troll doll lol

(http://s3.favim.com/orig/45/osbourne-ozzy-ozzy-osbourne-rock-n-roll-Favim.com-410845.jpg)


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: kinboshi on January 23, 2015, 07:26:13 PM
posting things you do not believe purely to get a negative reaction from another poster, ie posting to wind them up

whether some people actually believe some of the things they post is a tough judgement call to make (and the best trolls know which side of the line to pitch the post), and the lines between debate and trolling get blurred!

The bit about "post stuff they don't believe" isn't actually relevant. A troll can post stuff they do or don't believe, but they post with the purpose of provoking a response, trying to upset people or start an argument.

Of course, if someone posts what they actually believe it can be difficult to determine if they're debating, putting their opinion forward, or trolling.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
You've clearly just started this thread to make a point about people disagreeing with you in another thread.

Why not just come out and say what you're really thinking?


No, was actually thinking about Kmac, who a lot people consider a troll but because I agree with most of what he says, I have never seen him as such.

A bit edgy maybe, but not a troll.

Woodsey says a lot of thing I disgree with and I think he's often trolling.

But I'm probably wrong and he actually believes it.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2015, 07:41:57 PM
yup pretty much someone who goes around posting deliberately inflammatory stuff on t'interwebs for the sole purpose of getting a reaction out of people - usually anonymously.

I'm interested in how people pronounce the word - I've always said it to rhyme with bowling which i assumed was right, but I seem to be in a minority

I'm in your camp. Trolling, bowling.

In fact the first time I heard it pronounced the other way I had to ask what he was saying.

You probably went to the same sort of school as me and just extrended the word from the Billy Goat Gruff story.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: kinboshi on January 23, 2015, 07:45:44 PM
yup pretty much someone who goes around posting deliberately inflammatory stuff on t'interwebs for the sole purpose of getting a reaction out of people - usually anonymously.

I'm interested in how people pronounce the word - I've always said it to rhyme with bowling which i assumed was right, but I seem to be in a minority

I'm in your camp. Trolling, bowling.

In fact the first time I heard it pronounced the other way I had to ask what he was saying.

You probably went to the same sort of school as me and just extrended the word from the Billy Goat Gruff story.

Both are acceptable pronunciations. I guess it's the same as bath v barth.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: titaniumbean on January 23, 2015, 07:50:21 PM
yup pretty much someone who goes around posting deliberately inflammatory stuff on t'interwebs for the sole purpose of getting a reaction out of people - usually anonymously.

I'm interested in how people pronounce the word - I've always said it to rhyme with bowling which i assumed was right, but I seem to be in a minority

I'm in your camp. Trolling, bowling.

In fact the first time I heard it pronounced the other way I had to ask what he was saying.

You probably went to the same sort of school as me and just extrended the word from the Billy Goat Gruff story.

Both are acceptable pronunciations. I guess it's the same as bath v barth.


In the sense that one is wrong and the other one is right?


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: EvilPie on January 23, 2015, 07:52:42 PM
You've clearly just started this thread to make a point about people disagreeing with you in another thread.

Why not just come out and say what you're really thinking?


No, was actually thinking about Kmac, who a lot people consider a troll but because I agree with most of what he says, I have never seen him as such.

A bit edgy maybe, but not a troll.

Woodsey says a lot of thing I disgree with and I think he's often trolling.

But I'm probably wrong and he actually believes it.

You see this is what the experienced troll needs.

I made a stupid comment that I didn't really mean and now you've responded by saying that it's kmac's fault not your own.

If you think Woodsey and kmac are trolls just come out and say it rather than hiding behind a smoke screen.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2015, 07:53:57 PM
You've clearly just started this thread to make a point about people disagreeing with you in another thread.

Why not just come out and say what you're really thinking?


No, was actually thinking about Kmac, who a lot people consider a troll but because I agree with most of what he says, I have never seen him as such.

A bit edgy maybe, but not a troll.

Woodsey says a lot of thing I disgree with and I think he's often trolling.

But I'm probably wrong and he actually believes it.

You see this is what the experienced troll needs.

I made a stupid comment that I didn't really mean and now you've responded by saying that it's kmac's fault not your own.

If you think Woodsey and kmac are trolls just come out and say it rather than hiding behind a smoke screen.


Nuances are so difficult to decypher on internet forums sometimes.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: EvilPie on January 23, 2015, 07:55:20 PM
You've clearly just started this thread to make a point about people disagreeing with you in another thread.

Why not just come out and say what you're really thinking?


No, was actually thinking about Kmac, who a lot people consider a troll but because I agree with most of what he says, I have never seen him as such.

A bit edgy maybe, but not a troll.

Woodsey says a lot of thing I disgree with and I think he's often trolling.

But I'm probably wrong and he actually believes it.

You see this is what the experienced troll needs.

I made a stupid comment that I didn't really mean and now you've responded by saying that it's kmac's fault not your own.

If you think Woodsey and kmac are trolls just come out and say it rather than hiding behind a smoke screen.


Nuances are so difficult to decypher on internet forums.

Slightly disappointed not to get a second bite.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: kinboshi on January 23, 2015, 08:00:12 PM
yup pretty much someone who goes around posting deliberately inflammatory stuff on t'interwebs for the sole purpose of getting a reaction out of people - usually anonymously.

I'm interested in how people pronounce the word - I've always said it to rhyme with bowling which i assumed was right, but I seem to be in a minority

I'm in your camp. Trolling, bowling.

In fact the first time I heard it pronounced the other way I had to ask what he was saying.

You probably went to the same sort of school as me and just extrended the word from the Billy Goat Gruff story.

Both are acceptable pronunciations. I guess it's the same as bath v barth.


In the sense that one is wrong and the other one is right?

Either's right, unlike pronunciation being pronounced pro-nown-ciation.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: arbboy on January 23, 2015, 08:45:14 PM
What are blind football fans considered as who can't see the woods for the trees and call people trolls who just state facts about their team that they don't want to believe?  Is there a term for them?


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: RED-DOG on January 23, 2015, 08:46:52 PM
What is it?

Appears to be if someone disagrees with a commonly held view on an internet forum they are considered a troll.

Amirite?


Especially if you have the words "Under my tree, being a troll" in your profile.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: Junior Senior on January 23, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
What is it?

Appears to be if someone disagrees with a commonly held view on an internet forum they are considered a troll.

Amirite?


Get back under your tree you troll!


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: Kmac84 on January 23, 2015, 09:16:58 PM
I'm definitely not a troll.  I say what I think, on and off the web.  Some people are just too precious and live in a bubble.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: MereNovice on January 23, 2015, 09:46:56 PM
I'm happy to go with this:

http://www.pronouncenames.com/search?name=troll


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: MereNovice on January 23, 2015, 09:51:18 PM
I'm happy to go with this:

http://www.pronouncenames.com/search?name=troll

This is probably better as she has a posh British voice:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/british/troll


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: kinboshi on January 23, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
I'm happy to go with this:

http://www.pronouncenames.com/search?name=troll

From wikipedia:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord...
  suggesting both are accepted.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: MereNovice on January 23, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
I'm happy to go with this:

http://www.pronouncenames.com/search?name=troll

From wikipedia:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord...
  suggesting both are accepted.

Wikipedia only counts as a reliable source when it agrees with what I say.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: maccol on January 23, 2015, 10:10:12 PM
I'm definitely not a troll.  I say what I think, on and off the web.  Some people are just too precious and live in a bubble.
If only you were a troll. Then there may be an excuse for your crass boorishness and general twattery.
Unfortunately I think your just stuck with the fact that you are an intelligent man who is incapable of seeing issues in shades of grey, only stark black and white.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: RED-DOG on January 23, 2015, 10:14:22 PM
I'm definitely not a troll.  I say what I think, on and off the web.  Some people are just too precious and live in a bubble.
If only you were a troll. Then there may be an excuse for your crass boorishness and general twattery.
Unfortunately I think your just stuck with the fact that you are an intelligent man who is incapable of seeing issues in shades of grey, only stark black and white.


Does he have a high ranking friend in the army?


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: MANTIS01 on January 23, 2015, 10:19:46 PM
I think trolls get bad press, liven up many a dull thread. Don't get why people squeal and point at the slightest whiff of a troll. I think it's all rather harmless and entertaining. Described on Wiki as "internet discourse" lol has anyone called the police yet? Folk who brand people a troll are pure drama queens. In fact the best ever thread will be when trolls battle drama queens in some kind of Lord of the Rings epic. Trolls would be firm favourites because drama queens will readily flounce off at any given opportunity, usually threatening to "never post again".


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: RED-DOG on January 23, 2015, 10:21:50 PM
I think trolls get bad press, liven up many a dull thread. Don't get why people squeal and point at the slightest whiff of a troll. I think it's all rather harmless and entertaining. Described on Wiki as "internet discourse" lol has anyone called the police yet? Folk who brand people a troll are pure drama queens. In fact the best ever thread will be when trolls battle drama queens in some kind of Lord of the Rings epic. Trolls would be firm favourites because drama queens will readily flounce off at any given opportunity, usually threatening to "never post again".


That's it, I'm off.


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: kinboshi on January 23, 2015, 10:26:10 PM
I'm happy to go with this:

http://www.pronouncenames.com/search?name=troll

From wikipedia:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord...
  suggesting both are accepted.

Wikipedia only counts as a reliable source when it agrees with what I say.

Haha, very true!


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2015, 10:56:49 PM
I'm happy to go with this:

http://www.pronouncenames.com/search?name=troll

From wikipedia:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord...
  suggesting both are accepted.

Wikipedia only counts as a reliable source when it agrees with what I say.

Haha, very true!

I was looking at some page a couple of years ago and there was an outlandish claim about some famous person or another.

I thought "lets have a look at THAT link".

Looked down for link number 17 and it said "My mate Darren down the pub told me" :-)


Title: Re: Trolling
Post by: maccol on January 23, 2015, 11:39:14 PM
I'm definitely not a troll.  I say what I think, on and off the web.  Some people are just too precious and live in a bubble.
If only you were a troll. Then there may be an excuse for your crass boorishness and general twattery.
Unfortunately I think your just stuck with the fact that you are an intelligent man who is incapable of seeing issues in shades of grey, only stark black and white.


Does he have a high ranking friend in the army?

More than one. Major Payne is never too far away.  ;D