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Title: ACES Post by: stato_1 on January 26, 2015, 02:10:06 AM 28 left in FTP major, both reggy stats, sb been playing a lot of hands with CL, CO not so much. Theres more to this hand but lets do this bit for now
Full Tilt Poker Game #35195919359: The Sunday Major (285987829), Table 1 - NL Hold'em - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - 01:19:20 WET - 2015/01/26 [20:19:20 ET - 2015/01/25] Seat 3: Platinum Balls (138,864) Seat 4: Big Huni (109,292) Seat 5: Brainy14 (75,195) Seat 6: stato_1 (161,003) Seat 7: donkno2 (312,905) Seat 8: Sentimento_do_2 (198,567) Seat 9: PrettyFlacko (159,652) Platinum Balls antes 750 Big Huni antes 750 Brainy14 antes 750 stato_1 antes 750 donkno2 antes 750 Sentimento_do_2 antes 750 PrettyFlacko antes 750 donkno2 posts the small blind of 3,000 Sentimento_do_2 posts the big blind of 6,000 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to stato_1 [As Ad] PrettyFlacko folds Platinum Balls has 15 seconds left to act Platinum Balls folds Big Huni folds Brainy14 raises to 12,000 stato_1 ?? Title: Re: ACES Post by: PathFinder on January 26, 2015, 09:50:46 AM Can see why you would flat but villain min raising from a 12bb stack feels strong. So I would 3bet small so we can reopen action If blinds flat and villain shoves. Probs 27k
Title: Re: ACES Post by: Oxford_HRV on January 26, 2015, 02:29:10 PM do a click!
Title: Re: ACES Post by: rfgqqabc on January 27, 2015, 06:16:51 PM 25672 please, kinda want to flat tho.
Title: Re: ACES Post by: pleno1 on January 27, 2015, 06:24:32 PM i think jam
Title: Re: ACES Post by: cambridgealex on January 27, 2015, 06:26:08 PM What about a big 3bet so the blinds gii lighter vs us? Think the OR is going with the same or similar range regardless of our sizing. So big sizing for us might look weaker to blinds, like 77 or AT or something?
Just a thought. Title: Re: ACES Post by: cambridgealex on January 27, 2015, 06:26:29 PM Title: Re: ACES Post by: pleno1 on January 27, 2015, 08:09:05 PM yeh, similar, like if we have tt and 3bet any size they can be like wow sigh, if we jam they never fold. if hes r/f he's r/f if hes planning to r/c people he could fold vs some of our sizes, but not vs a jam.
Title: Re: ACES Post by: pleno1 on January 27, 2015, 08:09:44 PM mtt players think a lot like
"man i cant be dominated here, he'd never jam jj+' and end up making hilarious rejams to Title: Re: ACES Post by: pleno1 on January 27, 2015, 09:46:03 PM also think havign a 3bet folding range here is pretty bad, i dont mind just aving a jamming range that is pretty tight, and by having aa in it we dont have to worry too much.
Title: Re: ACES Post by: Oxford_HRV on January 28, 2015, 01:31:28 PM yeh, similar, like if we have tt and 3bet any size they can be like wow sigh, if we jam they never fold. if hes r/f he's r/f if hes planning to r/c people he could fold vs some of our sizes, but not vs a jam. I agree with what you say here, definitely think all in ftw now. In regards to positions this is CO v BTN. So we can be perceived to have re steals/be wider in our range against a 12bb stack? would you think this play would have the same effect if say it was an early postion open and we were next to act? i think there is more of a reason to flat, but are we just over complicating things here? Title: Re: ACES Post by: PathFinder on January 28, 2015, 02:49:09 PM I'm sure pleno will answer your question but I think we will look uber strong flatting an EP raise with this stack size and if anything encourage more flats behind.
I really like Pleno's thinking here of just jamming. His reasoning just makes so much sense. Another question would be what if the stack size if the villain was 20bb? You still just jamming? Title: Re: ACES Post by: pleno1 on January 28, 2015, 04:26:25 PM No. We can be perceived to have a 3bf range co vs btn with 20bbs
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