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Title: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 12, 2015, 04:10:24 PM
Anyone know about this? The obligatory £16/month phone cost is putting me off. Is 100mb plenty and 1gb excessive, or worth the money?

https://hyperoptic.com

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Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 12, 2015, 04:16:36 PM
phone cost scam comes with all providers you generally cant get out of having the line put in.

I cant imagine you'd ever use 100mb download speed.


This is a bit of an AJo in the CO question, none of the pertinent info is here.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Larry David on March 12, 2015, 04:17:47 PM
1Gb isn't a lot if you are streaming films etc, I once had 10gb with BT and then sent a bill saying I had exceeded the limit by 40gb.  If you are using it for streaming,youtube etc I would advise unlimited deal as you will pay more going over the limit.

Perhaps someone else can give you a few ideas.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 12, 2015, 04:20:16 PM
1Gb isn't a lot if you are streaming films etc, I once had 10gb with BT and then sent a bill saying I had exceeded the limit by 40gb.  If you are using it for streaming,youtube etc I would advise unlimited deal as you will pay more going over the limit.

Perhaps someone else can give you a few ideas.

it's quoting speeds not limits if i'm not being a bellend.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Graham C on March 12, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
1Gb isn't a lot if you are streaming films etc, I once had 10gb with BT and then sent a bill saying I had exceeded the limit by 40gb.  If you are using it for streaming,youtube etc I would advise unlimited deal as you will pay more going over the limit.

Perhaps someone else can give you a few ideas.

I assume its the download speed rather than download limits


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Larry David on March 12, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
Just spotted him asking about 1gb, who knows ;)


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Ransom on March 12, 2015, 04:24:43 PM
1Gb Fibre Optic is unnecessary IMO. Unless you were doing massive amounts of uploading/downloading files for projects, then there's no real need to have the 1GB option.

100MBps is going to be fast enough for average daily use that you probably wouldn't notice the difference between that and the 1GBps option unless you were downloading large torrents (50GB+) and watching the download speed on it.

Also I see that the graphic under the 1GB option shows '4K' - 4K is yet to take off because the technology is fairly expensive (Big 4k TVs can go into the thousands), and the infrastructure for it to become common to stream 4K video just isn't there on a large scale.

If you wanted to be ahead of the curve and use what small providers deliver 4k video streams, then the 1GB would be the correct option. But if you're just going to download films, use it for HD netflix and general internet use - the 100MB option is your best bet.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 12, 2015, 04:26:54 PM
1Gb Fibre Optic is unnecessary IMO. Unless you were doing massive amounts of uploading/downloading files for projects, then there's no real need to have the 1GB option.

100MBps is going to be fast enough for average daily use that you probably wouldn't notice the difference between that and the 1GBps option unless you were downloading large torrents (50GB+) and watching the download speed on it.

I cant think of many companies that can ever even offer you speeds that would make use of 100mb/ps.

also would be interested in how 'contention ratios' work for fibre, I haven't read up on it.

edit also this company have pretty limited availability for now.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Ransom on March 12, 2015, 04:31:52 PM
1Gb Fibre Optic is unnecessary IMO. Unless you were doing massive amounts of uploading/downloading files for projects, then there's no real need to have the 1GB option.

100MBps is going to be fast enough for average daily use that you probably wouldn't notice the difference between that and the 1GBps option unless you were downloading large torrents (50GB+) and watching the download speed on it.

I cant think of many companies that can ever even offer you speeds that would make use of 100mb/ps.

also would be interested in how 'contention ratios' work for fibre, I haven't read up on it.

edit also this company have pretty limited availability for now.

I'm on 50Mbps right now and I get the below pretty much 24/7.

You're rarely going to get the advertised speed and it will be 'up to 50/100/1GB' etc, but my 50mb connection is fine and I've never thought that I needed it to go any faster.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/4208696223.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4208696223)


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 12, 2015, 04:35:08 PM
1Gb Fibre Optic is unnecessary IMO. Unless you were doing massive amounts of uploading/downloading files for projects, then there's no real need to have the 1GB option.

100MBps is going to be fast enough for average daily use that you probably wouldn't notice the difference between that and the 1GBps option unless you were downloading large torrents (50GB+) and watching the download speed on it.

I cant think of many companies that can ever even offer you speeds that would make use of 100mb/ps.

also would be interested in how 'contention ratios' work for fibre, I haven't read up on it.

edit also this company have pretty limited availability for now.

I'm on 50Mbps right now and I get the below pretty much 24/7.

You're rarely going to get the advertised speed and it will be 'up to 50/100/1GB' etc, but my 50mb connection is fine and I've never thought that I needed it to go any faster.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/4208696223.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4208696223)


wait so advert says you can download at 100mb, reality says you never get above 40mb and we all just accept this shit because most people have no clue?
marv


they just shouldn't be allowed to do this shit. non computer users haven't got a sausage of a clue about this sort of stuff.

fibre being a more capable network and having a higher capacity should mean these are a thing of the past but if we continue to roll our eyes and just accept it they may bum us on this infrastructure too.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Ransom on March 12, 2015, 04:45:11 PM
1Gb Fibre Optic is unnecessary IMO. Unless you were doing massive amounts of uploading/downloading files for projects, then there's no real need to have the 1GB option.

100MBps is going to be fast enough for average daily use that you probably wouldn't notice the difference between that and the 1GBps option unless you were downloading large torrents (50GB+) and watching the download speed on it.

I cant think of many companies that can ever even offer you speeds that would make use of 100mb/ps.

also would be interested in how 'contention ratios' work for fibre, I haven't read up on it.

edit also this company have pretty limited availability for now.

I'm on 50Mbps right now and I get the below pretty much 24/7.

You're rarely going to get the advertised speed and it will be 'up to 50/100/1GB' etc, but my 50mb connection is fine and I've never thought that I needed it to go any faster.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/4208696223.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4208696223)


wait so advert says you can download at 100mb, reality says you never get above 40mb and we all just accept this shit because most people have no clue?
marv

With Fibre, the speeds should be way more consistent than the older copper lines (that like 80% of the country will still be stuck with 5 years from now) - but companies who provide fibre are quite keen on throttling everyone's speeds at 'peak times'. So while you might get your advertised 100mb speed at 4:30am, during the day you could be getting half of that. With the copper lines that run through the phone socket, you can get a package that's up to 20mb, but if you live 500metres away from the nearest line exchange box, you might get 4mbps, perhaps lower if the line hasn't been maintained and is in poor condition filling your connection with 'noise'.

All in the terms and conditions. I'm with Virgin Media and they can be bastards for deciding that England is going to run out of internet and they need to slow everyone right down for a couple of hours.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 12, 2015, 04:59:41 PM
yes I know hence i'm saying it's bullshit lol


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: bobAlike on March 12, 2015, 09:38:19 PM
It's better to have and not need than to need and not have.

I'm on 150mb with Virgin and I pretty much get that all the time even at peak times. They do have a policy of throttling you back if you cane the downloads at peak time but if you stop you're back up to speed within the hour.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Woodsey on March 12, 2015, 09:41:49 PM
phone cost scam comes with all providers you generally cant get out of having the line put in.

I cant imagine you'd ever use 100mb download speed.


This is a bit of an AJo in the CO question, none of the pertinent info is here.

Not true mate, I have Virgin and no phone.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 12, 2015, 09:51:24 PM
phone cost scam comes with all providers you generally cant get out of having the line put in.

I cant imagine you'd ever use 100mb download speed.


This is a bit of an AJo in the CO question, none of the pertinent info is here.

Not true mate, I have Virgin and no phone.



did you suck someone off?

The virgin guy was installing our internet, and wired in the phone line and then says where do you want it, i'm like leaving it hanging out the wall there that's good, I don't need to plug anything into it..... he was like you wat m8.  there was no way at the time at least to get a non phone line contract. BT do it aswell because they say that by paying for landline your paying towards the upkeep of their infrastructure which their internet services use. v annoying.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Woodsey on March 12, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
Just ordered Internet only and got Internet only, no drama...


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Graham C on March 12, 2015, 10:48:35 PM
I used to have Virgin without the phone too. I don't think you can these days though.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Woodsey on March 12, 2015, 10:55:49 PM
I used to have Virgin without the phone too. I don't think you can these days though.

Only got it installed about month ago...


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 12, 2015, 11:13:48 PM
I used to have Virgin without the phone too. I don't think you can these days though.

Only got it installed about month ago...

you are a lucky troll then :)up


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 12, 2015, 11:15:16 PM
Virgin don't provide in my building!


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Ironside on March 13, 2015, 12:12:33 AM
1gb is over kill

it was only 2 years ago i was only getting 2 mb and could do most things about from stream HD video

getting 49mb now and download a blueray quailty video in under 10 minutes not much point going  to much faster IMHO


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 13, 2015, 12:30:49 AM
Thanks guys


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Longines on March 13, 2015, 01:29:52 AM
I see this advertised a lot in the City, not sure if coverage would reach to you.

https://www1.relish.net/


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 13, 2015, 01:56:45 AM
I see this advertised a lot in the City, not sure if coverage would reach to you.

https://www1.relish.net/


yeh no good :(

any other recommendations?


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: dakky on March 13, 2015, 02:42:58 AM
If you don't have Virgin in your road then you are simply going to have to pay for a phone line I'm afraid


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: redsimon on March 13, 2015, 08:47:43 AM
Just ordered Internet only and got Internet only, no drama...

Don't you pay pretty much the same as Broadband plus Phone Package anyway?

http://store.virginmedia.com/broadband/compare-broadband/index.html#bbonly


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: RED-DOG on March 13, 2015, 08:55:20 AM
Virgin don't put out in my building!

fyp


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: marcro on March 13, 2015, 10:52:51 AM
I used to have Virgin without the phone too. I don't think you can these days though.

Only got it installed about month ago...

Do you have a landline provided by somebody else?

I am with Virgin and did not want a landline but they said a landline is required.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Woodsey on March 13, 2015, 11:09:17 AM
I used to have Virgin without the phone too. I don't think you can these days though.

Only got it installed about month ago...

Do you have a landline provided by somebody else?

I am with Virgin and did not want a landline but they said a landline is required.

Dont have anything mate, didnt at my last place and dont at my new place. Think I was paying low 20's for 50meg before, am now paying high 20's for 100meg. No idea if I'm paying extra because I dont have a phone, but nobody said I had to have a phone.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: Hyperoptic on March 13, 2015, 05:14:01 PM
Hey there!

Hyperoptic offer broadband only services too, click on the "learn more" link and then you should see it a link to it on the following page.

Also it's worth noting that the 100Mb and 1Gb speeds are for both upload and download speeds. As we install a dedicated fibre infrastructure into developments, there's "up to" speeds other than it's up to you which speeds you want!

Hope this helps - if you want to take a look at our favourite tweets via our Twitter handle, you'll see what some of our customers think of the service @hyperoptic.

Sunita



Anyone know about this? The obligatory £16/month phone cost is putting me off. Is 100mb plenty and 1gb excessive, or worth the money?

https://hyperoptic.com

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc416/cambridgealex/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-12%20at%2015.29.59_zpsdwfefwew.png) (http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/cambridgealex/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-12%20at%2015.29.59_zpsdwfefwew.png.html)



Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 13, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
Hey there!

Hyperoptic offer broadband only services too, click on the "learn more" link and then you should see it a link to it on the following page.

Also it's worth noting that the 100Mb and 1Gb speeds are for both upload and download speeds. As we install a dedicated fibre infrastructure into developments, there's "up to" speeds other than it's up to you which speeds you want!

Hope this helps - if you want to take a look at our favourite tweets via our Twitter handle, you'll see what some of our customers think of the service @hyperoptic.

Sunita



Anyone know about this? The obligatory £16/month phone cost is putting me off. Is 100mb plenty and 1gb excessive, or worth the money?

https://hyperoptic.com

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc416/cambridgealex/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-12%20at%2015.29.59_zpsdwfefwew.png) (http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/cambridgealex/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-12%20at%2015.29.59_zpsdwfefwew.png.html)



These flippin new members looking for staking will post anything to get to 300 posts.


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 13, 2015, 06:03:18 PM
LOL


Title: Re: Internet Service Provider - Hyperoptic?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 31, 2015, 02:16:31 PM
Just got this sorted for the new place and it's the fastest internet I've ever experienced. And I've only got the 100MB version, not the 1GB.

I'm paying £17 per month for the first 6 months, the £35 per month thereafter plus a £40 one-off connection fee. No phone line.