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Title: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 14, 2015, 10:50:10 AM If you're out there Acidmouse I would really like you to have a look at an old album I found whilst sorting through a job lot of car-boot sale style stuff.
The album its self is in extremely poor condition and has no writing on as the spine cover is missing. (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_215339_zpsxyb1ygve.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_215415_zps7nepfxrx.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221647_zpsfttddi4l.jpg) On opening it I found these old photos of what appear to be scenes from around Europe, but a few pages in I discovered that mostly all of the pictures had come loose from their mountings and were just placed in anyhow. It was then I noticed that most of them weren't photos as you would imagine them, but thin like pictures cut from a magazine. :dontask: (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_220954_zpsdjpcy8qo.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221507_zpss2b2d4mh.jpg) Some of them have captions on the front and some have the name Albert Hautecoer and the address of a paris studio stamped in purple on the back, some have the name Sophus Williams Nachf. Berlin 1901 printed on the back but most are blank save a odd penciled number. (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221056_zpsnxxehibx.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221152_zpsyhkbplpe.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221738_zps3sskmbmx.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_222526_zpscrjmil0w.jpg) A few seem to be more like a real photograph, but are more amateurish and quite faded like these including a portrait of a young lady with her camera. (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221834_zpsk1w2sfla.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_222158_zpsvmkitcpn.jpg) Others don't fit into either category... (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_222410_zps9debpfyk.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_222334_zpsjoktuy1v.jpg) (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/63313dfb-a666-4e90-b5af-0c3acca4b26c_zpsjjttem2m.jpg) I think what they may mostly be are some kind of souvenir images bought on the album owners travels, but google hasn't helped me at all so I was hoping you might be able to shed some light? Sorry about the poor quality of the my pictures I just snapped them on my phone. :) Thanks in advance x Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 14, 2015, 11:05:59 AM Of course, if any other Blondes have some info I'd be pleased to hear from them too!
Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: TightEnd on April 14, 2015, 11:11:02 AM i could be wrong but it struck me immediately that this
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221507_zpss2b2d4mh.jpg) was the Pont Notre Dame can't quite find the right modern angle on an image (http://www.eutouring.com/pont_notre-dame_m13_DSC01463_lrg.jpg) but the building back right of the two images matches? Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 14, 2015, 11:30:21 AM i could be wrong but it struck me immediately that this (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/20150413_221507_zpss2b2d4mh.jpg) was the Pont Notre Dame can't quite find the right modern angle on an image (http://www.eutouring.com/pont_notre-dame_m13_DSC01463_lrg.jpg) but the building back right of the two images matches? It most probably is Tighty as there are several images of Notre Dame from different angles amongst the pictures, they are quite striking as there are wide rough streets around the catherdral in the them, empty save an odd horse or pedestrian which looks strange when you think how busy it is there nowadays. Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Tonji on April 15, 2015, 12:43:44 PM The thin ones are albumen prints, some can be rare, but need to still have strong contrast (not faded) to have value.
French views are generally common, but some photographers & publisher's are rarer. Russia & the Caucasus are scarce, good China & Asia views rarer still. Like the camel roller, sale-able image that. Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 15, 2015, 02:11:05 PM The thin ones are albumen prints, some can be rare, but need to still have strong contrast (not faded) to have value. French views are generally common, but some photographers & publisher's are rarer. Russia & the Caucasus are scarce, good China & Asia views rarer still. Like the camel roller, sale-able image that. Thanks Tonji, now I know what they are I can research them a bit more. I don't have any Russian or Asian as far as I can tell, but I have identified France, Spain, Italy, Malta, maybe Germany? I'm unsure where the camel one was taken. They mostly good clear images, better than they look in my bad photos. Is there somewhere I could take them to be appraised? Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Geo the Sarge on April 15, 2015, 05:51:51 PM A quick search for Sophus Williams
Sophus Williams (actually: Sophus Vilhelm Schou) (* July 5, 1835 in Copenhagen; † October 18, 1900 in Grabow (Möckern)) was a Danish German photographer. It appears a few of his photos are held in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?v=&s=&q=Sophus%20Williams&ii=0&p=1 Sophus Williams and E Linde & Co as noted on some of your photos (verlag means publisher) https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?p=1&ps=12&maker=Sophus%20Williams%20%26%20E.%20Linde%20%26%20Co.&ii=0 Something to get you started. Geo Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Geo the Sarge on April 15, 2015, 05:57:53 PM The camel photo is outside a photographers studio under the name of CE Medrington. Can't find much online apart from a postcard for sale that indicates CE Medrington was based in Las Palmas
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Santa-Catalina-Mole-Las-Palmas-Grand-Canary-Vintage-C-E-Medrington-Postcard-B-/301592277627?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item46384cf27b Geo Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: tikay on April 15, 2015, 05:57:56 PM A quick search for Sophus Williams Sophus Williams (actually: Sophus Vilhelm Schou) (* July 5, 1835 in Copenhagen; † October 18, 1900 in Grabow (Möckern)) was a Danish German photographer. It appears a few of his photos are held in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?v=&s=&q=Sophus%20Williams&ii=0&p=1 Sophus Williams and E Linde & Coas noted on some of your photos (verlag means publisher) https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?p=1&ps=12&maker=Sophus%20Williams%20%26%20E.%20Linde%20%26%20Co.&ii=0 Something to get you started. Geo Don't get her started Geo, if she's 'owt like her Maam, she'll never stop. Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Geo the Sarge on April 15, 2015, 06:06:37 PM A quick search for Sophus Williams Sophus Williams (actually: Sophus Vilhelm Schou) (* July 5, 1835 in Copenhagen; † October 18, 1900 in Grabow (Möckern)) was a Danish German photographer. It appears a few of his photos are held in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?v=&s=&q=Sophus%20Williams&ii=0&p=1 Sophus Williams and E Linde & Coas noted on some of your photos (verlag means publisher) https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?p=1&ps=12&maker=Sophus%20Williams%20%26%20E.%20Linde%20%26%20Co.&ii=0 Something to get you started. Geo Don't get her started Geo, if she's 'owt like her Maam, she'll never stop. Haha, it's got ME started doing some digging around. Used to love when Tonji would put photos up for assistance in research, would spend hours on them Geo Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Tonji on April 15, 2015, 07:05:15 PM The thin ones are albumen prints, some can be rare, but need to still have strong contrast (not faded) to have value. French views are generally common, but some photographers & publisher's are rarer. Russia & the Caucasus are scarce, good China & Asia views rarer still. Like the camel roller, sale-able image that. Thanks Tonji, now I know what they are I can research them a bit more. I don't have any Russian or Asian as far as I can tell, but I have identified France, Spain, Italy, Malta, maybe Germany? I'm unsure where the camel one was taken. They mostly good clear images, better than they look in my bad photos. Is there somewhere I could take them to be appraised? pm sent redsgirl Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Geo the Sarge on April 15, 2015, 07:10:43 PM albert hautecoeur apparently was a top photographer too with images in the Rijksmusuem and also the Getty Musuem
http://www.getty.edu/art/collection/objects/73559/albert-hautecoeur-windsor-castle-round-tower-from-lower-ward-french-1871-1889/ Geo Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Tonji on April 15, 2015, 07:10:52 PM A quick search for Sophus Williams Sophus Williams (actually: Sophus Vilhelm Schou) (* July 5, 1835 in Copenhagen; † October 18, 1900 in Grabow (Möckern)) was a Danish German photographer. It appears a few of his photos are held in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?v=&s=&q=Sophus%20Williams&ii=0&p=1 Sophus Williams and E Linde & Coas noted on some of your photos (verlag means publisher) https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?p=1&ps=12&maker=Sophus%20Williams%20%26%20E.%20Linde%20%26%20Co.&ii=0 Something to get you started. Geo Don't get her started Geo, if she's 'owt like her Maam, she'll never stop. Haha, it's got ME started doing some digging around. Used to love when Tonji would put photos up for assistance in research, would spend hours on them Geo hey Geo, top research, hope your well. I've been cataloging an archive I bought last year of about 50000 kodachrome slides from the 50s to 70s for a social history project. Fancy a job! Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Geo the Sarge on April 15, 2015, 07:15:11 PM A quick search for Sophus Williams Sophus Williams (actually: Sophus Vilhelm Schou) (* July 5, 1835 in Copenhagen; † October 18, 1900 in Grabow (Möckern)) was a Danish German photographer. It appears a few of his photos are held in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?v=&s=&q=Sophus%20Williams&ii=0&p=1 Sophus Williams and E Linde & Coas noted on some of your photos (verlag means publisher) https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?p=1&ps=12&maker=Sophus%20Williams%20%26%20E.%20Linde%20%26%20Co.&ii=0 Something to get you started. Geo Don't get her started Geo, if she's 'owt like her Maam, she'll never stop. Haha, it's got ME started doing some digging around. Used to love when Tonji would put photos up for assistance in research, would spend hours on them Geo hey Geo, top research, hope your well. I've been cataloging an archive I bought last year of about 50000 kodachrome slides from the 50s to 70s for a social history project. Fancy a job! I'm well sir, I find photography, especially the older stuff yourself and Acid have put up fascinating and am generally at a loose end most evenings so enjoy bimbling about the web, using it for more constructive means. I'm sure you are the ideal man to point Redsgirl in the right direction Geo Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 15, 2015, 11:14:00 PM A quick search for Sophus Williams Sophus Williams (actually: Sophus Vilhelm Schou) (* July 5, 1835 in Copenhagen; † October 18, 1900 in Grabow (Möckern)) was a Danish German photographer. It appears a few of his photos are held in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?v=&s=&q=Sophus%20Williams&ii=0&p=1 Sophus Williams and E Linde & Co as noted on some of your photos (verlag means publisher) https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?p=1&ps=12&maker=Sophus%20Williams%20%26%20E.%20Linde%20%26%20Co.&ii=0 Something to get you started. Geo Thanks a lot Geo, I'll definitely be taking a look at those links, when I googled him the results were in German so you've done better than me already :) As you said Tonji has been a great help, before he replied I wasn't even sure if they were real photos or cut out pictures like you'd get in a scrap book! I knew the good folk of blonde wouldn't let me down. If you like a bit of detective work I could post some of mystery locations? Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 15, 2015, 11:29:44 PM A quick search for Sophus Williams Sophus Williams (actually: Sophus Vilhelm Schou) (* July 5, 1835 in Copenhagen; † October 18, 1900 in Grabow (Möckern)) was a Danish German photographer. It appears a few of his photos are held in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?v=&s=&q=Sophus%20Williams&ii=0&p=1 Sophus Williams and E Linde & Coas noted on some of your photos (verlag means publisher) https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/search?p=1&ps=12&maker=Sophus%20Williams%20%26%20E.%20Linde%20%26%20Co.&ii=0 Something to get you started. Geo Don't get her started Geo, if she's 'owt like her Maam, she'll never stop. I think you'll find in the real world I save my conversational skills for the few people I find interesting, where as my dear sweet mother will happily witter away to any old divvy. Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: mulhuzz on April 19, 2015, 02:40:05 PM the one thing of use I can say is that the picture may not have been taken by Sophus Williams, but that Williams is the current owner of the E. Linde & Co publisher.
Nachf. is 'Nachfolger' (successor) in German, and this construction is common when one business is bought by another but wants to keep the old name (even though the 'actual' name - for the chamber of commerce record has to be different, so they'll still trade as E. Linde & Co, but the 'official name' is E. Linde & Co. Nachf. Sophus Williams) Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 19, 2015, 05:25:45 PM the one thing of use I can say is that the picture may not have been taken by Sophus Williams, but that Williams is the current owner of the E. Linde & Co publisher. Nachf. is 'Nachfolger' (successor) in German, and this construction is common when one business is bought by another but wants to keep the old name (even though the 'actual' name - for the chamber of commerce record has to be different, so they'll still trade as E. Linde & Co, but the 'official name' is E. Linde & Co. Nachf. Sophus Williams) Ooh, that's interesting Mulhuzz, impressive language skills there. Opens up a new line of enquiry too. Cheers! Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: vegaslover on April 20, 2015, 07:06:43 PM ebay will most likely be your friend for appraising.
Just have a look for similar for sale/sold for price guide. Most of the established sellers on there will probably be pretty helpful too if you message them. You could also try the Postcard Traders Association Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on April 20, 2015, 10:34:44 PM ebay will most likely be your friend for appraising. Yes I've had a shufti at Ebay but the prices vary so much it's hard to get a real idea, especially as mine are all different types and sizes. Just have a look for similar for sale/sold for price guide. Most of the established sellers on there will probably be pretty helpful too if you message them. You could also try the Postcard Traders Association I'm going to try and take them to be looked at properly soon. Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: vegaslover on May 06, 2015, 06:46:20 PM ebay will most likely be your friend for appraising. Yes I've had a shufti at Ebay but the prices vary so much it's hard to get a real idea, especially as mine are all different types and sizes. Just have a look for similar for sale/sold for price guide. Most of the established sellers on there will probably be pretty helpful too if you message them. You could also try the Postcard Traders Association I'm going to try and take them to be looked at properly soon. How did you get on with getting them appraised? Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on May 07, 2015, 06:06:50 PM ebay will most likely be your friend for appraising. Yes I've had a shufti at Ebay but the prices vary so much it's hard to get a real idea, especially as mine are all different types and sizes. Just have a look for similar for sale/sold for price guide. Most of the established sellers on there will probably be pretty helpful too if you message them. You could also try the Postcard Traders Association I'm going to try and take them to be looked at properly soon. How did you get on with getting them appraised? I will update when I finally get them done. Title: Re: Calling Acidmouse! Historical photo help needed. Post by: Redsgirl on July 26, 2015, 05:27:36 PM Found this little photo in a box of old books at the boot sale this morning, no date or other useful info on it though, what do you reckon folks? It would be great to know the era and maybe the location? I'll pm tonji cos I know he's our guy, but if anyone else has any ideas? T.i.a. (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag66/plainreddog/IMG_20150726_162146_zpspcikbtax.jpg) (http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/plainreddog/media/IMG_20150726_162146_zpspcikbtax.jpg.html) |