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Title: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: The Camel on April 30, 2015, 01:36:02 AM
Loses it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32527129


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: The Camel on April 30, 2015, 01:37:10 AM
FWIW I think the journo is 100% correct.

For a team in the bottom 3 for most of the season Leicester/Pearson have almost completely avoided criticism.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2015, 01:57:18 AM
Pearson has some sort of issue- egomaniac or something. His general conduct is very strange


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: DMorgan on April 30, 2015, 02:10:17 AM
Pearson took a fair bit of flack for sitting in the stands when Leicester were rock bottom. I don't really think that any of the newly promoted teams have taken that much flack though which seems fair.

A couple of my housemates are Leicester fans and they've said that he didn't really get up to much in the way of antics in the championship. If its deliberate to keep the spotlight away from specific players it seems to have worked.

Teams like Sunderland, Newcastle and Villa have seemed to take the most flack this year, deservedly so I think?



Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: arbboy on April 30, 2015, 02:10:41 AM
He always seems to have a huge chip on his shoulder.  Def needs Anger Management training imo.  Like camel says his team results wise were dreadful for months and didn't receive anything like the flack QPR did for example.  I think stats wise and from Tighty's reports they were playing better than their results early in the season but even so they never took any real flack from where i was standing.

Everytime i look at him i just think he is 1.01 to be a wife beater.  No idea why he just gives me that impression.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: rinswun on April 30, 2015, 07:24:54 AM
I actually quite like Leicester as a club but Pearson makes me want them to go down. Seems a horrible man.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2015, 09:07:14 AM
very complex man

in public surly, mulish and prickly

in private apparently much more clubbable. very loyal to his friends and inspires a lot of loyalty in his players

whilst nationally there wasn't a great deal of criticism thats more of a "smaller club in a big league" thing with promoted sides  expected to struggle

locally he was heavily criticised for team selections and tactics october-february and the summer transfer strategy was attacked too

he fell out with the BBC man over this and now refuses to give BBC Radio Leicester interviews. to my mind the radio manw as only doing his job

the whole press conference stuff embarrasses me, but plays very well with Leicester fans many of whom delight in it.

i am in two minds if the whole thing is designed to foster a "us against the world" mentality or not 

sooner or later, and probably sooner if we go down, it will go too far and he'll be sacked

would expect him to be in heavy demand from sides 15-40 in the ladder then though as his record compares well to many (outside the established premier league sides)


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: DungBeetle on April 30, 2015, 10:09:25 AM
What?  Can't believe this thread - I love Pearson.  Think he's a great manager and I like that he always appears on the verge of going nuts.

I remember the absolute dignity he showed after the Watford semi final when Knockaert missed that pen and Deeney scored at the other end.

I'd take him at Watford in a shot


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: DungBeetle on April 30, 2015, 10:10:30 AM
I also chuckle when I think of him randomly garrotting that Palace player in his technical area for no apparent reason whatsover :)


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Karabiner on April 30, 2015, 10:22:17 AM
I've always liked Pearson and still do but it might be a good idea for him to let someone elso do the post-match interviews.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: david3103 on April 30, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
I've always liked Pearson and still do but it might be a good idea for him to let someone elso do the post-match interviews.

I really like his style in interviews. He seems always to be searching for the right word in giving a considered response, but you just know that underneath it all he's having to fight to stop himself from laughing at the question.

Would pay money to see him and Garth Crooks across a table a la Smith & Jones.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Nakor on April 30, 2015, 11:44:59 AM
I've always liked Pearson and still do but it might be a good idea for him to let someone elso do the post-match interviews.

I really like his style in interviews. He seems always to be searching for the right word in giving a considered response, but you just know that underneath it all he's having to fight to stop himself from laughing at the question.

Would pay money to see him and Garth Crooks across a table a la Smith & Jones.

That's a first for Blonde, somebody wanting to see Gareth Crooks do anything except disappear.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Withnail160 on April 30, 2015, 12:11:44 PM
+1 for Pearson

Solid manager who's done a great job at Leicester despite the odds. The journos ask him the same "in yer face" questions every week. He's under massive pressure. Wish the managers stuck it to the press like this more often!

Allow managers to say whatever they want IMO. Much more interesting that way


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Skippy on April 30, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
+1 for Pearson

Solid manager who's done a great job at Leicester despite the odds. The journos ask him the same "in yer face" questions every week. He's under massive pressure. Wish the managers stuck it to the press like this more often!

Allow managers to say whatever they want IMO. Much more interesting that way

Hi Nigel.







( :-) )


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: celtic on April 30, 2015, 01:40:47 PM
+1 for Pearson

Solid manager who's done a great job at Leicester despite the odds. The journos ask him the same "in yer face" questions every week. He's under massive pressure. Wish the managers stuck it to the press like this more often!

Allow managers to say whatever they want IMO. Much more interesting that way

Hi Nigel.







( :-) )

Ffs. Too slow :)


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: david3103 on April 30, 2015, 02:11:27 PM
I've always liked Pearson and still do but it might be a good idea for him to let someone elso do the post-match interviews.

I really like his style in interviews. He seems always to be searching for the right word in giving a considered response, but you just know that underneath it all he's having to fight to stop himself from laughing at the question.

Would pay money to see him and Garth Crooks across a table a la Smith & Jones.

That's a first for Blonde, somebody wanting to see Gareth Crooks do anything except disappear.

Somehow I doubt there'd be much left of Garth at the end of the interview.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: tikay on April 30, 2015, 02:36:51 PM
FWIW I think the journo is 100% correct.

For a team in the bottom 3 for most of the season Leicester/Pearson have almost completely avoided criticism.

Why should it be fair to criticise a Manager of a team who happens to be bottom, or doing badly?

On that basis, we should all diss Sean Dyche, but we don't, because we know he has no resources & the worst team. That's not his fault though, & just because Burnley are not good enough, it does not make Dyche (or Pearson at Leicester) a bad manager.





Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2015, 02:39:49 PM
and under FFP its not easy for a promoted side, however rich, to really go for it unless you have huge attendances/off the field income etc to counter the transfer/wage spending

this is an issue Bournemouth will have. not sure how the watford co-ownership mitigates it, probably ship in a load of udinese players for next season


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: tikay on April 30, 2015, 03:06:08 PM
and under FFP its not easy for a promoted side, however rich, to really go for it unless you have huge attendances/off the field income etc to counter the transfer/wage spending

this is an issue Bournemouth will have. not sure how the watford co-ownership mitigates it, probably ship in a load of udinese players for next season

If, say, Mourinho was given the job of Burnley Manager, but with the same resources, they would still likely be bottom, & he'd still be a good Manager. Just because a team does badly does not mean we are right to criticise the Manager.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2015, 03:08:30 PM
I'm not sure they would be bottom. Jose a master at setting teams up not to lose but get the general point. It's an interesting argument. Like if u put messi or ronaldo in that team they'd surely stay up right?


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: arbboy on April 30, 2015, 03:10:32 PM
and under FFP its not easy for a promoted side, however rich, to really go for it unless you have huge attendances/off the field income etc to counter the transfer/wage spending

this is an issue Bournemouth will have. not sure how the watford co-ownership mitigates it, probably ship in a load of udinese players for next season

If, say, Mourinho was given the job of Burnley Manager, but with the same resources, they would still likely be bottom, & he'd still be a good Manager. Just because a team does badly does not mean we are right to criticise the Manager.

Kevin Pullien is a stats writer in the racing post and one of the very few writers in the post who show a profit most years on his bets.  He has run data for decades showing that the correlation between wage bills and league position is pretty much rock solid year in year out without hardly any major blips at all.   Burnley would still be pretty certain to go down given their current budget whoever was the manager imo.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: tikay on April 30, 2015, 03:11:32 PM
I'm not sure they would be bottom. Jose a master at setting teams up not to lose but get the general point. It's an interesting argument. Like if u put messi or ronaldo in that team they'd surely stay up right?

They may, or may not, stay up in that scenario.

Both would still be great players though, even if they went down.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: DungBeetle on April 30, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
and under FFP its not easy for a promoted side, however rich, to really go for it unless you have huge attendances/off the field income etc to counter the transfer/wage spending

this is an issue Bournemouth will have. not sure how the watford co-ownership mitigates it, probably ship in a load of udinese players for next season

I imagine the rules will change soon, but at the moment Watford run at a profit.  The Udinese network don't pay high wages and the players are all transferred for free.

Don't expect to see any overpaid premier league basement dweller players to arrive (eg Caulker) as they simply won't pay those kind of wages.  My expectation is top young championship players (to fill the home grown quota) plus experienced European players on top.  I had heard of very few of the new arrivals the last few years and many of them have been fantastic in terms of technical quality and pace.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: arbboy on April 30, 2015, 03:18:16 PM
I'm not sure they would be bottom. Jose a master at setting teams up not to lose but get the general point. It's an interesting argument. Like if u put messi or ronaldo in that team they'd surely stay up right?

They may, or may not, stay up in that scenario.

Both would still be great players though, even if they went down.

Burnley would finish top half just by adding messi or Ronaldo to their team.  Suarez added 45 goals to liverpool last year to this year and about 20 points more.  Imagine what the best 2 in teh world would do to a team with very little talent.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2015, 03:24:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD2BJOrWAAAwciR.jpg)

in this afternoon's press conference for saturday's game


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: FUN4FRASER on April 30, 2015, 05:38:58 PM
What?  Can't believe this thread - I love Pearson.  Think he's a great manager and I like that he always appears on the verge of going nuts.

I remember the absolute dignity he showed after the Watford semi final when Knockaert missed that pen and Deeney scored at the other end.

I'd take him at Watford in a shot

Love Nigel.

He was a hero as a player for us at Hillsborough and as captain lifted the league cup against Man Ltd in 1991

Met him a few times and always humble

I also know he makes himself a media shield for the team so commands the player's respect

Most people lose it from time to time. Right ?


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: The Camel on April 30, 2015, 07:26:53 PM
FWIW I think the journo is 100% correct.

For a team in the bottom 3 for most of the season Leicester/Pearson have almost completely avoided criticism.

Why should it be fair to criticise a Manager of a team who happens to be bottom, or doing badly?

On that basis, we should all diss Sean Dyche, but we don't, because we know he has no resources & the worst team. That's not his fault though, & just because Burnley are not good enough, it does not make Dyche (or Pearson at Leicester) a bad manager.





I didn't say it would be right to critise Pearson.

I'm just saying he has avoided any of the flack usually associated with managing a team in the bottom 3.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: tikay on April 30, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
FWIW I think the journo is 100% correct.

For a team in the bottom 3 for most of the season Leicester/Pearson have almost completely avoided criticism.

Why should it be fair to criticise a Manager of a team who happens to be bottom, or doing badly?

On that basis, we should all diss Sean Dyche, but we don't, because we know he has no resources & the worst team. That's not his fault though, & just because Burnley are not good enough, it does not make Dyche (or Pearson at Leicester) a bad manager.





I didn't say it would be right to critise Pearson.

I'm just saying he has avoided any of the flack usually associated with managing a team in the bottom 3.

Agreed, but I have a bee in my bonnet on the subject generally, and I saw an opening, swivelled, volleyed it, but hit the crossbar.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
FWIW I think the journo is 100% correct.

For a team in the bottom 3 for most of the season Leicester/Pearson have almost completely avoided criticism.

Why should it be fair to criticise a Manager of a team who happens to be bottom, or doing badly?

On that basis, we should all diss Sean Dyche, but we don't, because we know he has no resources & the worst team. That's not his fault though, & just because Burnley are not good enough, it does not make Dyche (or Pearson at Leicester) a bad manager.





I didn't say it would be right to critise Pearson.

I'm just saying he has avoided any of the flack usually associated with managing a team in the bottom 3.

He hasn't though

Mostly self inflicted he's had 4-5 rucks this season with journalists, been fined and touchlined for swearing at a fan (who himself was way out of order), been sacked and re-instated later the same day, banned BBC radio....

not exactly all sweetness and light


dyche (lack of resources, small club) has got a free pass and thats fair enough

the press ate out of redknapp's pockets (all those big signings, big name players and QPR consistently underperforming)  until he left with his knee injury that wasn't a month later too. i'd argue he got way more of a easy ride than pearson has



Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2015, 07:42:37 PM
and, if i was being critical, Dyche spent his promotion transfer budget on Jutciewicz and Marvin Sordell

i know it would have been a struggle regardless, and the job to get promiotion was fantastic, but the universal view that he's the best thing since sliced bread falls down slightly when you look at how he tried to strengthen the squad....


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: arbboy on April 30, 2015, 07:47:47 PM
and, if i was being critical, Dyche spent his promotion transfer budget on Jutciewicz and Marvin Sordell

i know it would have been a struggle regardless, and the job to get promiotion was fantastic, but the universal view that he's the best thing since sliced bread falls down slightly when you loobk at how he tried to strengthen the squad....

I have forgot the last time burnley scored. One goal in eight games.  Imagine how few points they would have if Ings wasn't miles ahead of his talent at the start of the season. 


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2015, 08:05:41 PM
There's another radio interview following the apology. Think the journalist sounds like a nob


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: arbboy on April 30, 2015, 08:17:49 PM
There's another radio interview following the apology. Think the journalist sounds like a nob

I agree. I think a lot of these frustrated jobbing journos secretly love a spot like this for 15 minutes of fame.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
Hate it when journos take the moral high ground


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: The Camel on April 30, 2015, 08:29:13 PM
FWIW I think the journo is 100% correct.

For a team in the bottom 3 for most of the season Leicester/Pearson have almost completely avoided criticism.

Why should it be fair to criticise a Manager of a team who happens to be bottom, or doing badly?

On that basis, we should all diss Sean Dyche, but we don't, because we know he has no resources & the worst team. That's not his fault though, & just because Burnley are not good enough, it does not make Dyche (or Pearson at Leicester) a bad manager.





I didn't say it would be right to critise Pearson.

I'm just saying he has avoided any of the flack usually associated with managing a team in the bottom 3.

He hasn't though

Mostly self inflicted he's had 4-5 rucks this season with journalists, been fined and touchlined for swearing at a fan (who himself was way out of order), been sacked and re-instated later the same day, banned BBC radio....

not exactly all sweetness and light


dyche (lack of resources, small club) has got a free pass and thats fair enough

the press ate out of redknapp's pockets (all those big signings, big name players and QPR consistently underperforming)  until he left with his knee injury that wasn't a month later too. i'd argue he got way more of a easy ride than pearson has



Maybe the local media have given him a hard time, but the nationals haven't nearly as much as expected.

He should have been fired for the touchline thing with Meyler IMO.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2015, 08:34:10 PM
MacArthur? (Meyler was Pardew)

looked very weird, and played terribly but they go a way back. Pearson almost signed him before cambiasso decided to join. MacArthur texted him the day after and joked about the fuss.


national press? we're a smaller club in a big division. the national print press only turn up for big games/press conferences related


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: The Camel on April 30, 2015, 08:56:45 PM
MacArthur? (Meyler was Pardew)

looked very weird, and played terribly but they go a way back. Pearson almost signed him before cambiasso decided to join. MacArthur texted him the day after and joked about the fuss.


national press? we're a smaller club in a big division. the national print press only turn up for big games/press conferences related

Yeah, MacArthur.

Looked terrible to me. Although Pardew got away with worse I suppose.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Doobs on April 30, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
There's another radio interview following the apology. Think the journalist sounds like a nob

I agree. I think a lot of these frustrated jobbing journos secretly love a spot like this for 15 minutes of fame.

+1 some achievement to come out worse than Pearson


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: buzzharvey22 on May 01, 2015, 02:00:24 AM
Well done to him for keeping Leicester up.

Im a sunderland fan and cant see us picking up another point.

Leicester been better than us, Burnley, QPR, Villa, Hull, West Brom and Newcastle this season. Should be safe and sound by now if it wasnt for a bit of luck.

Justified for yesterdays interview as he was on smack.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: tikay on May 01, 2015, 01:13:45 PM


This is very well worth watching, even though it made me squirm in my seat.

I admire Pat Murphy, like his work, & the lines he takes generally, but I think he went well ott here. Pearson is not answerable to a reporter, imo, he is only answerable to his Employers. Think I'd have told Murphy to bugger off.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32543893


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Nakor on May 01, 2015, 01:45:46 PM


This is very well worth watching, even though it made me squirm in my seat.

I admire Pat Murphy, like his work, & the lines he takes generally, but I think he went well ott here. Pearson is not answerable to a reporter, imo, he is only answerable to his Employers. Think I'd have told Murphy to bugger off.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32543893

I had the same opinion of Murphy and I found the whole thing very disappointing from his end, brave, but necessary?
Pearson handled the situation very well I thought.  He does have "that look" that could wither a Honeybadger in a bad mood though.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Omm on May 01, 2015, 01:49:56 PM


This is very well worth watching, even though it made me squirm in my seat.

I admire Pat Murphy, like his work, & the lines he takes generally, but I think he went well ott here. Pearson is not answerable to a reporter, imo, he is only answerable to his Employers. Think I'd have told Murphy to bugger off.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32543893

loved the parts when Murphy keeps saying" i would come here more often" and you can just tell Pearson wants to say "i dont give a Sh** if u are here or not"


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: Marky147 on May 01, 2015, 02:00:12 PM
Good job by Pearson, imo.

Anything else :D


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: nirvana on May 01, 2015, 02:14:02 PM
Excellent job by Pearson in making him look the snotty child he was.

Probs did more to turn round any negative perceptions of Pearson than Pearson could manage on his own


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: david3103 on May 01, 2015, 02:28:21 PM
Bravo Nigel Pearson.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: arbboy on May 01, 2015, 02:32:35 PM


This is very well worth watching, even though it made me squirm in my seat.

I admire Pat Murphy, like his work, & the lines he takes generally, but I think he went well ott here. Pearson is not answerable to a reporter, imo, he is only answerable to his Employers. Think I'd have told Murphy to bugger off.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32543893

loved the parts when Murphy keeps saying" i would come here more often" and you can just tell Pearson wants to say "i dont give a Sh** if u are here or not"

That was my favourite bit.  I think the media do think they are bigger than the game sometimes and Murphy's attitude was 'we fund the game so you dance to our tune' and Pearson's silent put down of him was funny to watch.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: arbboy on May 02, 2015, 01:43:59 PM
Anyone think Pearson just pulled off a massive masterclass in taking the pressure off his players all week before their biggest game of the season?  No one has had time to even mention this is a must win game for Leics as everyone has been too busy talking about the gaffer.


Title: Re: Mr Nigel Pearson
Post by: George2Loose on May 02, 2015, 01:45:23 PM
No