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You are in a hand, where you opponent has just been counterfeited. as he has a small pair (22, 33)

The board Kc-Qc-Kd-7d-Qh

You have 4c-5c (or similar), but your opponent mucks his hands and assumes he can not win.

What do you do?

A) Split the money
B) Take the money, it's his mistake
C) Dependent on who the other person is
D) Other

cash game?

Yes, cash, will edit

A, You know you must have chopped so honest route to take is split it?

A 


Especially A if you want to keep 2-3 in the game.....

B.

Opens up some possibilities for people to angleshoot if they see you chop this.

It also might happen to you at some point and you will likely not get the money back.

This thing happened to me where I mucked my hand vs a regular I have played a LOT with for a 3k sidepot and I didn't even expect for one minute that I would get the money back.

Just like misclicks etc you have to accept this is a part of the game and deal with it.

Imo.

B. I can see the reasons why you'd do otherwise but it's not like you've angled in any way and nor is it your job to enforce the rules.

B. Just like misclicks, same will happen/has happened to you.

Similar thing happened to me at DTD a few months ago. I hit the straight on the flop and bet and got called on all streets only for the board to run the same straight as me. The pot was £300 and I put the other player all in for a further £180. He called and I declared a straight, he mucked. As he mucked I said told him he had a straight also. I felt it was only fair to split the pot with him. He was so thankful for my honesty. I felt really good.

I took all his money at a later stage and that felt a lot better.

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Happened to me on a couple of times  playing PLO at the Vic. Misread my hand, then remembered i hit a gutshot straight. I just got a sorry, should read your hand better.

Lesson learned, but he had a point. Its a game of mistakes, not sure its right you should give it back.

Depends who it's against. If i know absolutely 100% that the other person would give me a chop in the same situation, i would chop it, unless the other person is Mitch. In all other circumstances, i'd chose B and take the pot, otherwise you're just negatively freerolling any similar spots. Likewise, I wouldnt expect to be given a chop if I were to be the player doing the mucking.

Dependant a bit who it is, actually no, if it's a mate I defo take the pot just to mock him afterwards!  If it's a noob who doesn't know any better then yeah give em a break- once.  Pretty much all other times take the pot.  As said ^ it's a game of mistakes that get taken advantage of, this is one.

B

 I mucked the best hand once, that was a very expensive lesson, but I have never and will never do it again.

[  ] was offered option A

[  ] would expect to be offered option A

[  ] bear a grudge about it

When i first started playing I claimed a chop pot after villain mucked. I got a biro to the neck for it. Good old Gala!

if you know the person, like the person and think they'd do the same  - then chop.

If not take the pot, it's your pot at the end of the day.

BTW in Vegas yrs ago I played a pot, which we ran twice, I lost both, next day the guy came up to me and said that actually we chopped one of the boards, so I should have gotten 1/4 of the pot back and gave me the money, which considering I'd not even realized was, I thought, pretty incredible of him.

So you'd chop it with your mate and keep it from anyone else?

Saves you getting cold in the car park, I suppose.

:)

A for me. I'll never be rich.

I think B but would almost certainly do A

Yeah pretty much. You have to assume that the default for someone you have never seen or met before would be to keep the pot, I've seen it happen where the guy has turned his hand over and laughed and celebrated how he has won half a pot more than he should.

There is nothing immoral about keeping the pot, unless it's an absolute beginner player who genuinely doesn't know better in which case id chop and tell him try be more careful, but at the end of the day he's mucked, the pot is yours those are the rules there is no grey area, if you give half the pot then you are doing him a favor.

So the Q is, would you like to do this person a favor?

How do we know its a chop if he mucked?  If we got 5 high chance is he mucked the winner 8-9-10 high so wud u be prepared to give him the full pot? If not prob best just keep quiet.

If you mucked in error and the other guy - someone you didn't know and wouldn't have shared with in his position - offered you half the pot...

1) Would you accept? And
2) What would you think about the fact he chose to be nice and chop in a situation in which you would have played to the letter of the law and kept the money?

I would not accept, but I would NEVER be in this exact spot myself, I don't muck my hand till i've seen the other person's at a showdown...EVER I've seen too many weird things.

Once you've folded your cards you lose the pot it's very simple, if it was someone I liked who'd made a genuine stupid mistake id give them half the money cos its a friendly thing to do. I hate to say but giving someone you don't know money that is yours is pretty muggy, less than 1 in 200 would do the same back imo.

The situation I explained earlier with this guy in a vegas is different because it was a showdown, and my cards were turned over, in such a spot id give anyone the money they were owed. Searching them out the next day to refund the money after the mistake was not noticed is above and beyind mind and hence why it sticks in my mind.