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I posted this on my diary here but no response yet so thought I'd stick it in the place specifically for HHs

Fully expecting to get slammed on this HH, I think I played it pretty badly, almost every street is a disaster imo. Really frustrating because I'd been playing really well all comp and then a lapse in concentration this one hand blew it. Anyway...

It's the £33 BH Sky Poker main event and we're on a 5 handed table with 20 left. ITM now (30 odd were paid) and meaningless pay jumps until about top 6. Villian opening had been pretty solid, not getting out of line although most of that time was while he was short and he's fairly recently spun up a stack and is now opening a lot more (whether he's just hit a run of cards or has opened up now he has a stack I can't say for sure).

I think my first mistake is not 3betting pre, feel like I chose the worst of the 3 options pre but meh here it is...

Blinds are 1250/2500, I start the hand with 69k, villian has 136k.

Villian minraises UTG (HJ cos 5handed) to 5k. It folds to me in the SB with  Ahrt  Tc and I flat for some reason (I don't like this), BB comes along too.

Pot is now 15k and it comes  Aspades Jd 9h

Me and BB check to the PFR who bets 7.5k, I call and BB folds.

Pot is now 30k and turn is  2d

I donk turn here for 9k and villian calls. I do quite like the donk on the turn here and I do think it should be small like deffo under 1/2 pot, but I think it's a tad too small here, something like 12-13k is probably better.

Pot is now 48k and river is  Kd

We check/call a bet of 24k. I'm never c/r obv but fwiw we leave ourselves 25k (10bb) behind when/if we call here.

Thoughts on every street... feel free to be cruel :D

Hey Paul. Fold pre or 3 bet, but prefer a fold.
 Have 2 call flop pretty standard, could also lead the flop. Ott probs just check fold. I led a similar hand ott in Sundays roller, similar board excePt I defended bb and it was hu pre. Didn't really like it afterwards. So prefer checking turn 2 see what they do, can prob safely fold 2 most bets. As played folding the river.

Yeh was deffo the worst of the 3 options pre imo, although I think it's probably 3bet >>> fold >>> call.

Turn I think is good card to donk, we still have the best hand a lot of the time and he's gonna call a 12-13k bet (which is what I should have bet) imo with almost all Jx, OESD, GS, and turned FDs but will checkback most of them.

Deffo a horrible c/c on river, it's a fucking horrible riv for me lol

No peas. -.5

I like the Idea of Donk leading a lot. Have been playing around with it for a little while now.

In this spot though, I would learn more to check call Flop and turn (Just picking off all of his bluffs) and possible fold river depending on my view of the player. When Donk Lead into he is just going to fold most hands he is behind with, apart from the K with a draw most of the time I think.

What did he have in the end?

Don't fold pre,  I would 3b often, calling ain't half as and as folding. As played as a call, either donk or raise flop, I don't imagine villain will play any hand weaker than ours aggressive anyway, so we won't get blown off our equity unless we don't have it?

Yo Paula,

I actually don't mind the call pre defo > folding in this spot and if the villain not got out of line seems like it's ok.

Flop is fine imo,  turn as played I probably would prefer check call and assess based on whether he is trying to set u in or river so could c/c or c/f really depends if u think he is ever barrelling on bluff ever And sizing. C/c both flop and turn could get a cheap showdown vs hands that beat us aswell as keep worse in and bluffs

Id fold pre to a raise utg.

Check call turn and probs c/f river.

Don't see what leading turn achieves

if youre going to 3bf somethign, ATo seems about as good a hand as any to do so.

Calling pre is definitely not better than folding.

Why? GTO?

No, our hand doesn't flip well enough to justify calling out of position and playing the rest of the hand out of position. Poker101, nothing to do with gto. Gto play should largely be ignored its a high stakes concept.

Yeah, even being 5handed, I think I'd still lean towards a nitty fold. Pretty tricky to play OOP down the streets, gonna be left guessing on so many flops and runouts if the villain unloads the clip. Stack size isn't great either, not a huge amount of wiggle room.

How often are people unloading the clip without it on sky?

True, so you either win a small pot or lose a large one?

Edit - although a small pot is still pretty reasonably sized at this late stage and with shallower stacks.

grumpy early morning post Oxford, sorry if you take offence.

That Matt Bates fella never has it.

Q9s > ATo ?

Hah, no offence, didn't even see that post lol. Genuinely agree people should not ever really think GTO unless playing zillions of hands of cash, and especially not in MTTs bar lol buyins.
I feel people say calling is really bad because everyone analyses pre flop and flopability in regards to hero only being able to play ABC there onwards, there are so many variables

Yeah nothing to do with Game Theory just what Adam said.

Where do you draw the line? You could peel 8Tos here and not play ABC on future streets but it doesn't mean it's going to be anything other than bad in the long term. AT falls outside the line imo.

I would call 22-66 QQ+ Suited connected Js Qs Ks
3bc 77-JJ
3bf Ax
3bc AK
I draw the line Tx and below

just generally 3bing crap that blocks their range, I would presume villains range will be JQ+ A5o A7s+ A9o+ and pairs?

Maths behind this is probs terrible but that's what kind of lines I'm thinking on here in this spot