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Title: Wales are officially a better team than Spain now...
Post by: arbboy on July 09, 2015, 07:30:13 PM
....... In the Fifa world rankings. These rankings have been worthless for years but this just shows truely how worthless they really are. 


Title: Re: Wales are officially a better team than Spain now...
Post by: DropTheHammer on July 09, 2015, 08:06:05 PM
They certainly are easily manipulable by a country's fixture organiser, just a shame England etc were too stupid to play that game after being advised by a shrewd fan who did all the calculations and sent the advice to them. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25134584)


Title: Re: Wales are officially a better team than Spain now...
Post by: Doobs on July 09, 2015, 08:18:12 PM
....... In the Fifa world rankings. These rankings have been worthless for years but this just shows truely how worthless they really are. 

Competely disagree.  If Wales have had better recent results than Spain they should be ranked higher.  Sure there is going to be some teams in the wrong place due to recent variance but you can allow for that.  They are just a snapshot of where the teams are on form right now.

If you'd have made more money backing Spain than Wales in the recent past then I'd be more willing to concede you have a point.  FWIW I suspect a good way to manipulate your ranking would be to arrange friendlies with Wales right now.  Cancel all your games with Spain.


Title: Re: Wales are officially a better team than Spain now...
Post by: arbboy on July 09, 2015, 08:22:55 PM
I just don't even see the reason for the rankings even existing.  That is my biggest problem with them.  The only use i can see is for seeding at major events which causes teams like Switzerland (or wales if there was a euro's or WC next month) to be over valued and cause potential groups of death because of it whilst creating incredibly soft groups as a result the other way.


Title: Re: Wales are officially a better team than Spain now...
Post by: Doobs on July 09, 2015, 09:14:07 PM
I just don't even see the reason for the rankings even existing.  That is my biggest problem with them.  The only use i can see is for seeding at major events which causes teams like Switzerland (or wales if there was a euro's or WC next month) to be over valued and cause potential groups of death because of it whilst creating incredibly soft groups as a result the other way.

Not sure what the alternative is.  Wouldn't want Blatter and his cronies exchanging wads of cash for rankings, so it has to be something mathematical. 

There are always going to be teams out of place in the short run, but it seems find and much more sensible than giving a top ranking to Russia or Qatar as hosts.


Title: Re: Wales are officially a better team than Spain now...
Post by: arbboy on July 09, 2015, 09:44:21 PM
I just don't even see the reason for the rankings even existing.  That is my biggest problem with them.  The only use i can see is for seeding at major events which causes teams like Switzerland (or wales if there was a euro's or WC next month) to be over valued and cause potential groups of death because of it whilst creating incredibly soft groups as a result the other way.

Not sure what the alternative is.  Wouldn't want Blatter and his cronies exchanging wads of cash for rankings, so it has to be something mathematical. 

There are always going to be teams out of place in the short run, but it seems find and much more sensible than giving a top ranking to Russia or Qatar as hosts.

Just betfair ante post market maybe?   ;D  Seems a good a guide as any to the best teams in the world!


Title: Re: Wales are officially a better team than Spain now...
Post by: Doobs on July 09, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
I just don't even see the reason for the rankings even existing.  That is my biggest problem with them.  The only use i can see is for seeding at major events which causes teams like Switzerland (or wales if there was a euro's or WC next month) to be over valued and cause potential groups of death because of it whilst creating incredibly soft groups as a result the other way.

Not sure what the alternative is.  Wouldn't want Blatter and his cronies exchanging wads of cash for rankings, so it has to be something mathematical. 

There are always going to be teams out of place in the short run, but it seems find and much more sensible than giving a top ranking to Russia or Qatar as hosts.

Just betfair ante post market maybe?   ;D  Seems a good a guide as any to the best teams in the world!

You give me a million and I'll make Gibratar the World's number 1 on the right date  ;nana;