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Title: Harper Lee
Post by: RED-DOG on July 14, 2015, 09:24:53 AM
This is quite an amazing story really.

Harper Lee wrote To Kill a Mockingbird in 1960. She won a Pulitser Prize and was given all sorts of other awards.

That was that really. She never gave interviews or talked about her success and she never wrote anything else.

Then, despite the fact that she is 88 and nearly blind and deaf, she published another novel, Go Set a Watchman, which she wrote before To Kill a Mockingbird.

Now here's the amazing bit.

Go Set a Watchman, which went on sale on Tuesday, apparently holds the No. 1 spot of Amazon.com's most popular authors list. Since it was announced in February, the novel has become the website's most preordered book of any genre. The 2 million orders on Amazon alone could generate $30 million in revenue.

I wonder if there will be a third book?



(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/4/4e/20150326140533!US_cover_of_Go_Set_a_Watchman.jpg)



Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Omm on July 14, 2015, 10:12:29 AM
This is quite an amazing story really.

Harper Lee wrote To Kill a Mockingbird in 1960. She won a Pulitser Prize and was given all sorts of other awards.

That was that really. She never gave interviews or talked about her success and she never wrote anything else.

Then, despite the fact that she is 88 and nearly blind and deaf, she published another novel, Go Set a Watchman, which she wrote before To Kill a Mockingbird.

Now here's the amazing bit.

Go Set a Watchman, which went on sale on Tuesday, apparently holds the No. 1 spot of Amazon.com's most popular authors list. Since it was announced in February, the novel has become the website's most preordered book of any genre. The 2 million orders on Amazon alone could generate $30 million in revenue.

I wonder if there will be a third book?



(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/4/4e/20150326140533!US_cover_of_Go_Set_a_Watchman.jpg)



To Kill A Mockingbird was a part of the school curriculum 20 years ago when i was studying for my GCSE's, As well as Lord of the Flies, because of the depth that we went into the books half the year read one book and the other half read the other. I read Lord of the Flies and that's what i done my English GCSE course work on. I've never read To Kill a Mockingbird but will certainly give it a try, The Lord of the Flies is the one book that has always stayed fresh in my mind and was such a powerful story line, I imagine To Kill a Mockingbird to be of similar stature. 


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Jon MW on July 14, 2015, 10:59:11 AM
This is quite an amazing story really.

Harper Lee wrote To Kill a Mockingbird in 1960. She won a Pulitser Prize and was given all sorts of other awards.

That was that really. She never gave interviews or talked about her success and she never wrote anything else.

Then, despite the fact that she is 88 and nearly blind and deaf, she published another novel, Go Set a Watchman, which she wrote before To Kill a Mockingbird.

Now here's the amazing bit.

Go Set a Watchman, which went on sale on Tuesday, apparently holds the No. 1 spot of Amazon.com's most popular authors list. Since it was announced in February, the novel has become the website's most preordered book of any genre. The 2 million orders on Amazon alone could generate $30 million in revenue.

I wonder if there will be a third book?



(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/4/4e/20150326140533!US_cover_of_Go_Set_a_Watchman.jpg)



I think the first part is the amazing part - the second part is surely just a consequence of the first?

I can't really think of any other author who has had such an iconic book (particularly in America - relevant because of the size of their market) - who then hasn't done anything else.  Iconic author publishes worldwide massive sensation - does nothing for 50 years, then publishes another book - it's always going to have that kind of sales I would have thought.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: RED-DOG on July 14, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
This is quite an amazing story really.

Harper Lee wrote To Kill a Mockingbird in 1960. She won a Pulitser Prize and was given all sorts of other awards.

That was that really. She never gave interviews or talked about her success and she never wrote anything else.

Then, despite the fact that she is 88 and nearly blind and deaf, she published another novel, Go Set a Watchman, which she wrote before To Kill a Mockingbird.

Now here's the amazing bit.

Go Set a Watchman, which went on sale on Tuesday, apparently holds the No. 1 spot of Amazon.com's most popular authors list. Since it was announced in February, the novel has become the website's most preordered book of any genre. The 2 million orders on Amazon alone could generate $30 million in revenue.

I wonder if there will be a third book?



(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/4/4e/20150326140533!US_cover_of_Go_Set_a_Watchman.jpg)



I think the first part is the amazing part - the second part is surely just a consequence of the first?

I can't really think of any other author who has had such an iconic book (particularly in America - relevant because of the size of their market) - who then hasn't done anything else.  Iconic author publishes worldwide massive sensation - does nothing for 50 years, then publishes another book - it's always going to have that kind of sales I would have thought.


I think that's a pretty fair assessment Jon.

It wouldn't surprise me if TKAMB hit the top of the charts all over again now. I might even read it myself when if it's on Kindle.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: AndrewT on July 14, 2015, 12:04:55 PM
The whole thing seems kinda iffy to me - if she'd wanted to release the book, she could have done so at any point in the past fifty years. All of a sudden, when she's 88, after having suffered a stroke, nearly blind and deaf, and reliant on others to get through her day does she decide to release the book. Some people are going to make a lot of money out of this book, nearly all of whom are not Harper Lee - I just can't help but feel a vulnerable old woman is being taken advantage of here.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: RED-DOG on July 14, 2015, 12:20:14 PM
The whole thing seems kinda iffy to me - if she'd wanted to release the book, she could have done so at any point in the past fifty years. All of a sudden, when she's 88, after having suffered a stroke, nearly blind and deaf, and reliant on others to get through her day does she decide to release the book. Some people are going to make a lot of money out of this book, nearly all of whom are not Harper Lee - I just can't help but feel a vulnerable old woman is being taken advantage of here.


I would definitely say that that is a pretty fair assessment as well.

Do you think it's wrong though?


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Doobs on July 14, 2015, 12:29:01 PM
The whole thing seems kinda iffy to me - if she'd wanted to release the book, she could have done so at any point in the past fifty years. All of a sudden, when she's 88, after having suffered a stroke, nearly blind and deaf, and reliant on others to get through her day does she decide to release the book. Some people are going to make a lot of money out of this book, nearly all of whom are not Harper Lee - I just can't help but feel a vulnerable old woman is being taken advantage of here.


I would definitely say that that is a pretty fair assessment as well.

Do you think it's wrong though?

Harper Lee is going to make a lot of money too.  I am fairly sure she has come out and said she wants to release it.  If her mind is sound who are we to tell her what is best for her?  Having failing eyesight and hearing have nothing to do with the state of her mind, so can't see how they are even relevant other than to pull on our heart strings.

I don't know how we judge that she is getting more taken advantage of than anyone in a band, or releases any other book, or performs in an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical or just flips burgers in McDonalds.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Doobs on July 14, 2015, 12:30:24 PM
And FWIW Lord of the Flies > To kill a mockingbird.  It was just ok for me and not particularly memorable.  Will probably read this at done stage though.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: BigAdz on July 14, 2015, 12:34:45 PM
Who says we don't read books anymore?!

A great tale that should get even more reading....even if it is on a kindle.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: MintTrav on July 14, 2015, 01:01:30 PM
I can't really think of any other author who has had such an iconic book (particularly in America - relevant because of the size of their market) - who then hasn't done anything else.

Margaret Mitchell - Gone with the Wind.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Jon MW on July 14, 2015, 01:12:36 PM
I can't really think of any other author who has had such an iconic book (particularly in America - relevant because of the size of their market) - who then hasn't done anything else.

Margaret Mitchell - Gone with the Wind.

 :)up good call


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2015, 01:33:49 PM
I can't really think of any other author who has had such an iconic book (particularly in America - relevant because of the size of their market) - who then hasn't done anything else.

Margaret Mitchell - Gone with the Wind.

 :)up good call

JD Salinger didn't produce anything for the last 50 years of his life.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Longines on July 14, 2015, 02:16:28 PM
Google turned up a couple more:

Anna Sewell - Black Beauty
Emily Bronte - Wuthering Heights


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Graham C on July 14, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
In defence of Emily's slackness, she did die young.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: MintTrav on July 14, 2015, 03:35:48 PM
Mike Tyson - Undisputed Truth


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2015, 03:39:52 PM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: AndrewT on July 14, 2015, 04:29:09 PM
Did Chompy ever write another book or did Backing the Draw for Profit set him up for life?


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Did Chompy ever write another book or did Backing the Draw for Profit set him up for life?

POTY :)


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: BigAdz on July 14, 2015, 05:31:20 PM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.


Might that not just be a Darlington thing?! ;) ;D


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Kev B on July 14, 2015, 06:02:31 PM
To Kill a Mockingbird till my fave book having read it several times. The new one is winging it's way to me from Amazon as I type.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
Riddled with clichés, routinely inept: "Go Set a Watchman" should never have been published.

spectator review: http://specc.ie/1UYOmBX


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: nirvana on July 14, 2015, 07:18:26 PM
Did Chompy ever write another book or did Backing the Draw for Profit set him up for life?

Probably belongs more in the whatever happened to thread but , in fairness, with profits like this (and 85p) he didn't have to write again.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/racing-be-quick-on-the-draw-for-fast-buck-1167434.html



Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Redsgirl on July 15, 2015, 12:27:52 AM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev;


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: AndrewT on July 15, 2015, 09:56:17 AM
Third novel announced - 'Shocking the literary world once again, acclaimed author Harper Lee announced through her publisher Tuesday the surprise release of her third novel, My Excellent Caretaker Deserves My Entire Fortune.'

http://www.theonion.com/article/harper-lee-announces-third-novel-my-excellent-care-50840


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: RED-DOG on July 15, 2015, 10:20:45 AM
Third novel announced - 'Shocking the literary world once again, acclaimed author Harper Lee announced through her publisher Tuesday the surprise release of her third novel, My Excellent Caretaker Deserves My Entire Fortune.'

http://www.theonion.com/article/harper-lee-announces-third-novel-my-excellent-care-50840


I lolled.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Rexas on July 15, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
Book will likely be tremendously disappointing. To kill a mockingbird is, imo, one of the greatest pieces of literature ever written, and there was absolutely no need, or real room, for a sequel. Will avoid reading.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: The Camel on July 15, 2015, 01:15:11 PM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev;

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: RED-DOG on July 15, 2015, 03:16:39 PM
Book will likely be tremendously disappointing. To kill a mockingbird is, imo, one of the greatest pieces of literature ever written, and there was absolutely no need, or real room, for a sequel. Will avoid reading.

Hello Mr Marris. It's a while since we've crossed banter sticks. How the devil are you?

Right. Nicities observed, on to business.

Is there ever a need for a work of fiction? There is obviously room.

Can I ask what you would have done if faced with the prospect of a multi million pond payday?

Lastly, "Will avoid reading" seems like an act of petulance. All very tk-esque.




Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Ironside on July 15, 2015, 06:08:28 PM
Book will likely be tremendously disappointing. To kill a mockingbird is, imo, one of the greatest pieces of literature ever written, and there was absolutely no need, or real room, for a sequel. Will avoid reading.

Hello Mr Marris. It's a while since we've crossed banter sticks. How the devil are you?

Right. Nicities observed, on to business.

Is there ever a need for a work of fiction? There is obviously room.

Can I ask what you would have done if faced with the prospect of a multi million pond payday?

Lastly, "Will avoid reading" seems like an act of petulance. All very tk-esque.




one pond in my back yard is enough for me i dont need multi million ponds



Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: david3103 on July 15, 2015, 06:23:29 PM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev;

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Redsgirl on July 16, 2015, 08:32:24 PM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?

No, they're filled with some sort of sausage meat and lots of onions fried together into a kind of stuffing-y type thing, with lots of sage and black pepper.
The have it cooking all day so its mainly soft but gets delicious crispy bits from around the edges of the pan.
They are supposedly exclusive to Darlington market caff, and made to a top secret family recipe.
I love them but I'd eat owt as long as it isn't shellfish.



Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: I KNOW IT on July 17, 2015, 08:44:31 AM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?

No, they're filled with some sort of sausage meat and lots of onions fried together into a kind of stuffing-y type thing, with lots of sage and black pepper.
The have it cooking all day so its mainly soft but gets delicious crispy bits from around the edges of the pan.
They are supposedly exclusive to Darlington market caff, and made to a top secret family recipe.
I love them but I'd eat owt as long as it isn't shellfish.


Yes , you don't seem like a shellfish person
 ;marks;


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: david3103 on July 17, 2015, 09:16:05 AM
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?

No, they're filled with some sort of sausage meat and lots of onions fried together into a kind of stuffing-y type thing, with lots of sage and black pepper.
The have it cooking all day so its mainly soft but gets delicious crispy bits from around the edges of the pan.
They are supposedly exclusive to Darlington market caff, and made to a top secret family recipe.
I love them but I'd eat owt as long as it isn't shellfish.



They sound pretty damned good. I shall investigat next time we're in the market.



Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Redsgirl on July 17, 2015, 10:03:27 AM
Quote from: The Camel link=topic=65726.msg2066112#msg2066112 date=143696251
[quote author=Redsgirl link=topic=65726.msg2065993#msg2065993 date=1436916472
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?

No, they're filled with some sort of sausage meat and lots of onions fried together into a kind of stuffing-y type thing, with lots of sage and black pepper.
The have it cooking all day so its mainly soft but gets delicious crispy bits from around the edges of the pan.
They are supposedly exclusive to Darlington market caff, and made to a top secret family recipe.
I love them but I'd eat owt as long as it isn't shellfish.



They sound pretty damned good. I shall investigat next time we're in the market.


[/quote]
Do you live up there too David?
I had it in my mind you were Northampton way.

Edit;  I do love a derail.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: david3103 on July 17, 2015, 03:02:26 PM
Quote from: The Camel link=topic=65726.msg2066112#msg2066112 date=143696251
[quote author=Redsgirl link=topic=65726.msg2065993#msg2065993 date=1436916472
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?

No, they're filled with some sort of sausage meat and lots of onions fried together into a kind of stuffing-y type thing, with lots of sage and black pepper.
The have it cooking all day so its mainly soft but gets delicious crispy bits from around the edges of the pan.
They are supposedly exclusive to Darlington market caff, and made to a top secret family recipe.
I love them but I'd eat owt as long as it isn't shellfish.



They sound pretty damned good. I shall investigat next time we're in the market.


Do you live up there too David?
I had it in my mind you were Northampton way.

Edit;  I do love a derail.
[/quote]

Northampton born & bred but have lived in Stockton for the past 28 yrs.


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: Redsgirl on July 17, 2015, 03:12:37 PM
Quote from: The Camel link=topic=65726.msg2066112#msg2066112 date=143696251
[quote author=Redsgirl link=topic=65726.msg2065993#msg2065993 date=1436916472
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?

No, they're filled with some sort of sausage meat and lots of onions fried together into a kind of stuffing-y type thing, with lots of sage and black pepper.
The have it cooking all day so its mainly soft but gets delicious crispy bits from around the edges of the pan.
They are supposedly exclusive to Darlington market caff, and made to a top secret family recipe.
I love them but I'd eat owt as long as it isn't shellfish.



They sound pretty damned good. I shall investigat next time we're in the market.


Do you live up there too David?
I had it in my mind you were Northampton way.

Edit;  I do love a derail.

Northampton born & bred but have lived in Stockton for the past 28 yrs.
[/quote]

I see.
Different world up there don't ya think?
You obviously prefer it to down sarf anyway. :-)


Title: Re: Harper Lee
Post by: david3103 on July 17, 2015, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: The Camel link=topic=65726.msg2066112#msg2066112 date=143696251
[quote author=Redsgirl link=topic=65726.msg2065993#msg2065993 date=1436916472
Just in case you are stuck in a queue to buy a copy, there are shelves full of the thing at Sainsburys in Darlington.

Media overhyping queues down the street and others camping out overnight to make sure they get a copy before it sells out.

Do you live in Darlo Camel?
Do they still do those cobs called Savouries in the indoor market?  : ;kev

The indoor market is still there, but I'm not sure about the cobs.

Will check it out (for research purposes only! :) )

Do you mean cobs filled with cheese savoury ?

No, they're filled with some sort of sausage meat and lots of onions fried together into a kind of stuffing-y type thing, with lots of sage and black pepper.
The have it cooking all day so its mainly soft but gets delicious crispy bits from around the edges of the pan.
They are supposedly exclusive to Darlington market caff, and made to a top secret family recipe.
I love them but I'd eat owt as long as it isn't shellfish.



They sound pretty damned good. I shall investigat next time we're in the market.


Do you live up there too David?
I had it in my mind you were Northampton way.

Edit;  I do love a derail.

Northampton born & bred but have lived in Stockton for the past 28 yrs.

I see.
Different world up there don't ya think?
You obviously prefer it to down sarf anyway. :-)

[/quote]

Totally different and so much more on offer oop 'ere.
I may be a long way from That London, but from my house to the beach is fifteen minutes; to the hills is maybe half an hour and to the dales in around the same time.
Add to that the substantially cheaper housing stock, the cost of living and the transport network (mainly road and rail) which can get me to Edinburgh in less than two hours, London in less than three and a whole host of other destinations all within easy reach.

I wouldn't move back to the Midlands for any price.