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Arsene Wenger believes China spending will help "easily" create world's first £100m player http://bit.ly/1X7NYAW 

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i listened to a programme this week where it was talking about western coaches going over and getting some structure into the game, developing academies and putting huge resources into turning the indigenous population onto football. At the same time the wealthy corporate interests owning the league clubs are going to be the big draw for players in terms of wages....

The MLS must be bricking it.

Not as much as Brazil are, America still attracting the players it wants to by and large.

The very promising young title winning side of Santos have nearly all gone to China and prevented a promising side developing. Some of them would have left anyway dont blame them never know when your next chance for a big payday will be

Could understand it when it was russia and they still had european cups but its just sad to see footballers who could still make a huge name for themselves all but retiring. Its not like the 30m players above need the money, fair enough someone in brazil thats not made their money but the three mentioned above are just selling their career to play in a pointless league. Do it when you arent good enough to play at a decent level, like the mls or middle east (or even former chinese system) imo.

To be fair, a lot of people said the same about Beckham as he could have walked into a lot of top European sides when he went to America. But he wanted to grow the sport over there so may be some of these are thinking along the same lines  ;-)

Seriously though, if someone offered me a little less/the same/more money, to do a LOT less work, then I'd do it!

Chelsea have turned down a £57m offer from Chinese side Jiangsu Suning for Brazil midfielder Oscar, 24.

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Think his wife just wanted to live there lol, after his behaviour in madrid unsurprising it was her turn to pick. Only place he went on loan were big fashion cities. Under the thumb imo.

Seems highly unlikely to me.

Surprised the Ukranian-based players have moved

On big big money massive Brazilian community of players there treated very very well suspect in some cases it is agent pressure above a lot else.

Could easily come back to europe within 6-12 months also

Chinese team offered Ighalo 300k per week in the summer as a championship striker so goodness knows what they would pay Oscar. 

Fortunately for Watford Ighalo says he prayed and God told him not to accept.

Ezequiel Lavezzi agrees huge deal with Shanghai Shenhua

I was meaning that I doubt Chelsea would turn down an offer that big for him.

How one man’s obsession is turning China into a football superpower

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/12146017/Revealed-How-one-mans-obsession-is-turning-China-into-a-football-superpower.html

The rest of the football world should be worried if he's got a long term plan for football in China.

Clubs with no history trying to buy success. They should be ashamed.

Even the second division sides in China are making multi-million pound signings

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3448261/Nikica-Jelavic-completes-4m-West-Ham-Chinese-second-division-Beijing-Renhe.html

Carlos Tevez rejects £19.5m deal to join Chinese club Shanghai SIPG http://dailym.ai/1OeNWQO 

Lavezzis contract released

400k per week net nice payday for a very good player but not a great one especially now

What's the tax situation/earning thresholds over in China?

He's done well to land a contract that pays him over £1.5m a month, a good player but certainly not in that elite band.

Guessing bonuses, sponsorship, image rights etc will be on top of that as well?

Yep without any bonuses.

Estimated he was on about 100k net at PSG.

There is some loophole the Chinese Goverment have given the clubs which ends up as a massive tax break but not sure of the ins and outs

Chinese Super League in crisis with 13 clubs set to forfeit involvement next season due to unpaid salaries http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chinese-super-league-crisis-13-10865718

Should be some nice players available when the Chinese bubble collapses

Then Again, who wants a player who only is interested in money

Man City.

Vast majority of players are only playing for their current club for the money.

You think they are doing it because they love the club?

True - there is a difference though.  By going to China in your mid 20's you are actively removing yourself from the top echelons of the sport.  European competition.  FA Cups.  The top European leagues.  Nobody will remember anything you do in China.  You are sacrificing glory because you want to earn £300k per week rather than 100k.  I'd say that is a difference from picking Man City over Liverpool because City will pay you more.  Whether you are at Man City or Liverpool you can still go down in the annuls of history if the chips fall right.  In China you've taken yourself out of the equation purely for money that you probably don't even need.

That said, I don't blame the likes of Tevez getting his big end of career pay off.  It's more the likes of Oscar and Witsel that my opinion applies to.

 

Nobody will remember what you do in China?  Do the people who watch Chinese football not count as people.   

You know full well what I mean.  If you were writing a book on football 2017 to 2022, Oscar's performance in the Chinese league won't even get a mention no matter how well he does.  The fact is the players are accepting cash to move off the big stage into a lower league.

I'm not sure why you seem to find this view controversial.

I accept it is a lower quality league.  I accept you won't remember them as you won't see them.  But hundreds of millions of other people will remember them, as they will see them.   Some of their games get viewing figures in line with the Superbowl, so it just seemed a bit odd to say nobody would remember them. 

If you were writing a book, they won't get a mention. You have made that clear.  If somebody in China wrote one, it would be different.  If somebody wrote a book on World football in 2017, I hope they would see the World differently to you.

I am truely baffled here.  My point is obviously that the players who move are sacrificing prestige for money.  The average attendance in China is  lower.  The clubs have far less history.  The trophies they compete for are far less valued.

None of this is controversial yet you have somehow decided to make this about me being prejudiced against China.

I don't know what to say really.  It's just flat out strange.  I don't really post here anymore and posters like you are largely the reason.  I'll leave you to snipe at someone else in your unpleasant way and keep clear.  Nice one.

Your statement about nobody remembering them when they play to audiences of hundreds of millions was odd, but rather than argue that you just get personal. 

Anyway, it is just the internet.  I take offence, you take offence, same old, same old. 

I won't be losing much sleep.