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What's everyones thoughts on this?

Ronnie being Ronnie?

Doing a good thing in highlighting the lack of money in the sport at the moment?

Good to have the sport being talked about rather than just another 147?

Jesus who even fucking cares  :dontask:  too many people bitching about sporting 'disrespectful' stuff today that is barely even relevant in the real world.

Some people need a life....

Look out, Woodsey is out from under his bridge  :D


He refused to pot the black once before, due to his issues with the prize money for a maximum, but Jan Verhaas remonstrated with him, and he relented.

I can see his point, if nothing has changed, but it does seem rather pointless, as the acting out before hasn't changed anything.

There is a lot more money in the sport now, than ever before. I was reading an article somewhere, and it's possible for many more professionals to earn a living now, than it was back along, before Hearn kicked it up the ass.

I honestly don't see what the big deal is here.

He took the easier pink with his 14th red instead of what many purists might call the "wrong" shot in the tougher black, and made a 146.

I would award £146k now for a 146.  Much harder making a 146 than a 147 nowadays.  Pretty sure that will be Ronnie's first 146.

Looks to me as if he's both right and wrong. Seems like greed, but a 147 is a huge ask and surely should be more money. But really would be annoyed personally if I paid for a seat and missed the chance of seeing a player get a maximum.

Wasn't it like £147k for a max in Sheffield years ago and is now £40k?

Aaron if you were at the snooker you could now say you were there when Ronnie turned down a 147 rather than you saw yet another 147,

Who's the real Ronnie O'Sullivan?

His opponents haven't held back in trying to describe him

"very strange" etc

http://bbc.in/215Souz 

Ronnie is quite right to raise this issue.  Obviously as a spectator you want to see 147's just the same way you want to see a 9 darter at Ally Pally. 

Probably more so at the Crucible.  If Barrie Hearn doesn't want to pay the higher prize money, perhaps he should look at ways of making a 147 more difficult.   Say speeding the tables up, reducing the pocket size etc. 

12k is 12k.

Surely it's better to win 12k for a 147 and assumably the highest break rather than 2k just for the highest break? The fact that he thinks it should be more is almost irrelevant surely. What he did was akin to setting fire to 10k (mbn).

I don't really understand the issue. He could just flick the 10k over to charity if he feels that strongly about it. If he was that driven by money, surely he'd play more events and bank more prize money. My assessment is he is a petulant, spoilt brat who does not appreciate enough the incredible talent he has been lucky enough to be bestowed with.

Ronnie couldn't really give a shit about the money. He's spent quite a lot of time playing handicap matches against his mates of complete amateurs for £50 £100 £200 in Gloucester (travelling from London) over the last 9 months when he wasn't on the tour. The game is boring as piss now compared to when Ronnie was growing up watching his idols. And it's even more boring now than it was when he first broke onto the scene.

Think he feels he needs to create a bit of controversy, and thank god he does as he's the only thing remotely interesting in snooker now. All time low when Stuart bloody Bingham won the worlds.

And i'd much rather watch Ronnie make a 146 than have to listen to 146 seconds of his punditry.

Definitely an all time low... Nobody wants to see a career pro, who works his ass off, while keeping his nose clean, getting rewarded for his efforts  ::)

Only low for me was backing him a year too early, lol.

I'm with Mark. Winning the world championship was a far greater feat for Bingham than it ever was for  O'Sullivan.

Champion.

Lets have Andy Hamilton win the darts world championship and Wes Morgan win the ballon d'or.

Don't know where they'd fit all the knew fans it would drag in to the sports though!

Go on buzz harvey

Snooker would be dead without Ronnie.

Think he should've made the 147 then thrown the 10g's into the crowd

That's right, he was champion.

If Hamilton worked hard enough, and played well enough, and coped with the pressure, maybe he could.

Not sure what the Ballon D'Or has to do with the price of spuds, either.

I don't think Bingham winning the worlds is a bad thing for the sport, quite the opposite, imo.

You obviously don't like him, which is fine, but quite laughable statements from you :D.

"Twenty years as professional – blood, sweat and tears on the road. Qualifying in places like Prestatyn and Malvern. So many family and friends have backed me. It is unbelievable. I'm world champion but I'm going to be the same person, I'll be playing in all the tournaments and hopefully I'll be a good role model as world champion. Any kids growing up wanting to play, just stick at it. Lots of hard work, practice and self-belief, things like this can happen"


Absolutely terrible for the sport when someone like Bingham wins the World Championship  ::)

Would have been com.

Fair enough mate.

I had a bit of a sarcy comment written there but i actually cba to type. We just have diff opinions on the matter.

Fwiw i think a complete unknown winning the worlds would be  etter for the sport than a journeyman pro.

Haha, nothing wrong with a bit of sarcasm, you should have fired it in there ;D

I don't disagree, and think that a player winning on their debut would be superb. However, that's a fair way from your initial statement.

I think Bingham was a fair way from journeyman by the time he won it, even though he was underdog through the last 3 matches.

Having looked at it there, he went through a murderers row, having to beat Trump, Ronnie, and Murphy.

sounds like youre a nasty piece of work buzz
no good for this forum

ZZZZZZZZZ. That's going to attract lapsed viewers like me. I'd never watch snooker nowadays unless O'Sullivan or Davis is playing.


Been trying to figure out why it's harder. I'd have assumed there are plenty of opportunities to take a pink once half the reds are cleared. Might have to put it in the middle instead of the corner, but is it much harder? I accept could be wrong on this.

FWIW, I can see O'Sullivan's point. And I don't get the disrespectful point. He still potted all the balls.

Those political updates must be tiring, I'd get yourself a nap ;)

That was in reference to Bingham winning being the an all time low for Snooker, which I disagreed with.

People move on, and their time gets taken up by other things, and I myself don't watch anywhere near as much Snooker as I did.

I'd imagine the large majority only watch when Ronnie is playing, or maybe Trump, too.

Its harder because you give up 10k to score one.

I assume its harder because generally, if you start red-black, it means the black is on its spot and available into corner pockets. Whereas the pink is more likely to be tied up with reds around it.

On a slightly different note, why do you think the Hearn's have had such success with darts and boxing, but really haven't had the same impact on snooker? It seems to me, and per this thread, that the overall interest in snooker is declining, and it all looks a bit stagnant.

Worldwide, snooker is massively bigger than it was. There's a tournament every week and the market in Asia is growing vastly.

Hearn has massively invigorated snooker. growing worldwide, and into new countries

it lacks characters, thats all, at the moment. plenty of depth but only one star

That's right I guess. I suppose it's the difference between it's British popularity, and it's worldwide popularity.

snooker definitely struggling a bit in the home market

this week is the welsh open. where can you watch it? bbc red buton or online only. bbc2 is showing old films and repeats etc all afternoon

odd that it wouldn't be on bbc2 with all the resources there to show it on red button, and unlike Hearn not to get the deal to get it on the main channel

the format isnt too great though. best of sevens to the final, lots of variance over short matches and a visibly sulky ronnie o winning matches while going through the motions

meanwhile the automatons like selby and the rest play fairly standard snooker.

which is why something like the snooker shootout is interesting. a bit like t20 in cricket, brng new markets to snooker viewing figures 

Snooker is one of those parlour games that is so fundamentally crap as a spectator sport its just unjazzuppable.