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Title: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 07:57:29 AM

At 11am this morning, the BBC will be making known the salaries of their Staff, Management & on-screen talent who earn in excess of £150,000 per year from the BBC. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40633241

Between now & 11am, who wants to see if they can guess the published salaries of the following....


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 07:57:44 AM

Graham Norton


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 07:57:58 AM

Gary Lineker


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 07:58:10 AM

Chris Evans


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 07:58:22 AM

Andrew Marr


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 07:59:41 AM

Laura Kuenssberg


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: The Camel on July 19, 2017, 08:10:53 AM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 08:29:39 AM
Norton  - £5m, competitive marketplace for entertainment talent innit
Lineker - £3m, same for sports presenters
Evans - £1m bit less so for radio
Marr - £500k and less again for politics
Kuenssberg - £300k and less again for women in politicial journalism

had to laugh at poor old Mishal Hussain on r4today this morning, having to interrogate her boss as to why she was paid so much!

that said sure the gender pay gaps will be the big story of all this



Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 08:42:17 AM
one firm has a book up...

GaryLineker's salary:

⬆️ £2.5m - 4/1
£2.25m - £2.49m - 11/4
£2m - £2.24m - 7/4
£1.75m - £1.99m - 6/4
£1.5m - £1.74m - 6/1
⬇️ £1.5m - 10/1


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 19, 2017, 08:51:01 AM
Norton  - £5m
Lineker - £4m
Evans - £4m
Marr - £1m
Kuenssberg - £200k


As an aside, Blakey from On The Buses once got paid 5 grand for an hours public appearance 20 years ago for my mates company, if that helps


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 19, 2017, 09:02:55 AM
Much rather see their tax returns than their wages


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 09:03:01 AM
Norton  - £5m
Lineker - £4m
Evans - £4m
Marr - £1m
Kuenssberg - £200k


As an aside, Blakey from On The Buses once got paid 5 grand for an hours public appearance 20 years ago for my mates company, if that helps


Think that is much nearer the mark for Lord Evans than Camel or Tighty were.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: redsimon on July 19, 2017, 09:08:24 AM
Norton  - £6m
Lineker - £1.5m he has BT Sport job, Walkers ads too
Evans - £3m
Marr - £300k
Kuenssberg - £200k

Wonder how many of the highest paid are employees or have companies which BBC pays ?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 09:21:32 AM
mostly self employed/freelance, paid through companies. Lineker is,he is open about it

of course for most the BBC £ is a fraction of their overall earnings (corporate hosting, ads, other tv work etc)

i know of one newsreader, a friend's company wanted her to host their awards do. £25,000 a night! 


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 09:27:13 AM
Norton  - £6m
Lineker - £1.5m he has BT Sport job, Walkers ads too
Evans - £3m
Marr - £300k
Kuenssberg - £200k

Wonder how many of the highest paid are employees or have companies which BBC pays ?

Think a lot of them have companies, & many have their salaries or fees paid via Production companies. 

When there was all that palaver with Jonathan Ross & the Russell Brand twat, it emerged that Ross was making his BBC TV Show himself, & the "salary" or fee the BBC were paying him included all the costs of making the Show, including, presumably, the wage costs for Ross's staff.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: redsimon on July 19, 2017, 09:28:03 AM
Best VFM ?

Andrew Neil

Worst?

Any newsreader imho


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 09:31:15 AM

Just to be clear, I don't have any bad blood about these TV folk getting the lot, good luck to them. *

* Exceptions apply. If this woman is getting more than £150,000 a year from the BBC I might throw a hissy fit.






Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 10:19:36 AM


Danny Baker, on Twitter;


Danny Baker‏ @prodnose · 17s17 seconds ago 


 Counting the minutes now before somebody does BBC Top earners as Pick Of the Pops style chart.




Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 10:22:08 AM
breaking

Chris Evans highest paid BBC star: £2.2-2.49m. (2. Gary Lineker: £1.75-1.79m)

Highest paid woman: Claudia Winkleman £450k-£499k.

BBC News stars' salaries:

1. Jeremy Vine: £700k-£749k
2. Huw Edwards: £550k-£599k

Highest paid woman: Fiona Bruce: £350k-£399k


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 10:33:30 AM
BBC SALARIES (drama/comedy) Highest paid actor: Derek Thompson £350k-£399k Highest paid actress: Amanda Mealing: £250k-£299k


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 19, 2017, 10:35:09 AM
BBC SALARIES (drama/comedy) Highest paid actor: Derek Thompson £350k-£399k Highest paid actress: Amanda Mealing: £250k-£299k

Had to google both of them. Sorta pleased Charlie gets a long service type pay packet but is Casualty still popular?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 10:40:34 AM


Danny Baker, on Twitter;


Danny Baker‏ @prodnose · 17s17 seconds ago 


 Counting the minutes now before somebody does BBC Top earners as Pick Of the Pops style chart.




More Danny Baker

People are saying that £30k a week is a lot for my one Saturday morning show but, seriously, the sausage bill alone eats up most of that.

The inevitable reply

paul livesey‏ @GortonboyPaul54  9m
Replying to @prodnose
tell that to people who don't earn that in a yr or even 2 yrs


I was thinking Gortonboy was going to be some sourfaced Momentum type, and was very wrong.  Do not look at his twitter feed at work....  or at home... seriously.  Have some people no shame?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 10:42:08 AM
breaking

Chris Evans highest paid BBC star: £2.2-2.49m. (2. Gary Lineker: £1.75-1.79m)

Highest paid woman: Claudia Winkleman £450k-£499k.

BBC News stars' salaries:

1. Jeremy Vine: £700k-£749k
2. Huw Edwards: £550k-£599k

Highest paid woman: Fiona Bruce: £350k-£399k

I was going to take the unders on a lot of guesses.  The total talent bill is £19m, so unlikely some individueals were earning £4 or £6m.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: neeko on July 19, 2017, 10:44:47 AM
The embargo on the news till 11am is working well then.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 10:45:39 AM


Danny Baker, on Twitter;


Danny Baker‏ @prodnose · 17s17 seconds ago 


 Counting the minutes now before somebody does BBC Top earners as Pick Of the Pops style chart.




More Danny Baker

People are saying that £30k a week is a lot for my one Saturday morning show but, seriously, the sausage bill alone eats up most of that.

The inevitable reply

paul livesey‏ @GortonboyPaul54  9m
Replying to @prodnose
tell that to people who don't earn that in a yr or even 2 yrs


I was thinking Gortonboy was going to be some sourfaced Momentum type, and was very wrong.  Do not look at his twitter feed at work....  or at home... seriously.  Have some people no shame?


Sheesh.

7 Followers, too.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: MPOWER on July 19, 2017, 10:53:52 AM
Forget about the Tikays and B Listers

What about the suits earnings? Are these being published anyone know?


Sir David Clementi   Chairman
Tony Hall   Director-General of the BBC
Simon Burke   Non-executive Director
Dame Tanni Grey-Thompson   Non-executive Director
Ian Hargreaves   Non-executive Director
Tom Ilube   Non-executive Director
Sir Nicholas Serota   Non-executive Director
Steve Morrison   Member for Scotland
Dr Ashley Steel   Member for England
Anne Bulford   Deputy Director-General
Tim Davie   CEO, BBC Worldwide & Director, Global
Ken MacQuarrie   Director, Nations and Regions
Tony Hall   Chairman; Director-General
Anne Bulford   Deputy Director-General
Charlotte Moore   Director of Content
Mark Linsey   Director of BBC Studios
James Harding   Director of News & Current Affairs
Matthew Postgate   Chief Technology & Research Officer
Ken MacQuarrie   Director of Nations & Regions
James Purnell   Director of Radio & Education
Tim Davie   CEO, BBC Worldwide
Valerie Hughes D'Aeth   Director of HR

Looks like a HUGE wage bill to me.

Regards

M




Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 10:59:33 AM
Forget about the Tikays and B Listers

What about the suits earnings? Are these being published anyone know?


Sir David Clementi   Chairman
Tony Hall   Director-General of the BBC
Simon Burke   Non-executive Director
Dame Tanni Grey-Thompson   Non-executive Director
Ian Hargreaves   Non-executive Director
Tom Ilube   Non-executive Director
Sir Nicholas Serota   Non-executive Director
Steve Morrison   Member for Scotland
Dr Ashley Steel   Member for England
Anne Bulford   Deputy Director-General
Tim Davie   CEO, BBC Worldwide & Director, Global
Ken MacQuarrie   Director, Nations and Regions
Tony Hall   Chairman; Director-General
Anne Bulford   Deputy Director-General
Charlotte Moore   Director of Content
Mark Linsey   Director of BBC Studios
James Harding   Director of News & Current Affairs
Matthew Postgate   Chief Technology & Research Officer
Ken MacQuarrie   Director of Nations & Regions
James Purnell   Director of Radio & Education
Tim Davie   CEO, BBC Worldwide
Valerie Hughes D'Aeth   Director of HR

Looks like a HUGE wage bill to me.

Regards

M




and it should be

it employs over 20,000 staff, revenues of £5bn,income of nearly £200m

needs good managers paid appropriately or else they'll work in the private sector


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 11:01:25 AM
Forget about the Tikays and B Listers

What about the suits earnings? Are these being published anyone know?


Sir David Clementi   Chairman
Tony Hall   Director-General of the BBC
Simon Burke   Non-executive Director
Dame Tanni Grey-Thompson   Non-executive Director
Ian Hargreaves   Non-executive Director
Tom Ilube   Non-executive Director
Sir Nicholas Serota   Non-executive Director
Steve Morrison   Member for Scotland
Dr Ashley Steel   Member for England
Anne Bulford   Deputy Director-General
Tim Davie   CEO, BBC Worldwide & Director, Global
Ken MacQuarrie   Director, Nations and Regions
Tony Hall   Chairman; Director-General
Anne Bulford   Deputy Director-General
Charlotte Moore   Director of Content
Mark Linsey   Director of BBC Studios
James Harding   Director of News & Current Affairs
Matthew Postgate   Chief Technology & Research Officer
Ken MacQuarrie   Director of Nations & Regions
James Purnell   Director of Radio & Education
Tim Davie   CEO, BBC Worldwide
Valerie Hughes D'Aeth   Director of HR

Looks like a HUGE wage bill to me.

Regards

M




The suits are here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/corporate2/insidethebbc/managementstructure/biographies/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/corporate2/insidethebbc/managementstructure/biographies/)

Ones not listed will earn less than £150,000 a year.

How much do you earn?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 11:06:51 AM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k

None of it is clear cut.

Norton is listed as £900,000, but that is only for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work.

His "highly-rated" BBC1 Show is not included in the £900k, as the fees are paid via a Production Company, similar to the Jonathan Ross scenario I outlined earlier.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: AndrewT on July 19, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
Jeremy Vine 750k???


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: redsimon on July 19, 2017, 11:10:12 AM


Danny Baker, on Twitter;


Danny Baker‏ @prodnose · 17s17 seconds ago 


 Counting the minutes now before somebody does BBC Top earners as Pick Of the Pops style chart.




More Danny Baker

People are saying that £30k a week is a lot for my one Saturday morning show but, seriously, the sausage bill alone eats up most of that.

The inevitable reply

paul livesey‏ @GortonboyPaul54  9m
Replying to @prodnose
tell that to people who don't earn that in a yr or even 2 yrs


I was thinking Gortonboy was going to be some sourfaced Momentum type, and was very wrong.  Do not look at his twitter feed at work....  or at home... seriously.  Have some people no shame?

He follows Nick Clegg and Eddie Izzard, definite wrong 'un :)


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: redsimon on July 19, 2017, 11:10:58 AM
Jeremy Vine 750k???

Points Of View don't come cheap?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 11:16:55 AM
flog it's paul martin has a good agent

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFFyzcGXgAA5P8K.jpg)


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 19, 2017, 11:23:52 AM
Where is the actual list published?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 11:26:41 AM
flog it's paul martin has a good agent

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFFyzcGXgAA5P8K.jpg)

Not as good as Alan Yentob's.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 11:42:24 AM
Where is the actual list published?

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/annex_annual_report_201617.pdf (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/annex_annual_report_201617.pdf)


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: The Camel on July 19, 2017, 11:43:39 AM
Paul Merton and Ian Hislop not on the list is surprising


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 11:44:35 AM
Paul Merton and Ian Hislop not on the list is surprising

Both are paid by Hat Trick Productions, not the BBC. I assume you are referring to HIGNFY.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Trick_Productions





Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: The Camel on July 19, 2017, 11:45:44 AM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k

None of it is clear cut.

Norton is listed as £900,000, but that is only for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work.

His "highly-rated" BBC1 Show is not included in the £900k, as the fees are paid via a Production Company, similar to the Jonathan Ross scenario I outlined earlier.

Why do you put highly rated in quotation marks?

Norton is clearly the most talented of BBC performers and deserves the highest salary IMO


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 19, 2017, 11:46:12 AM
Tikay is really on his game with this one, I guess he is in the Biz though.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: The Camel on July 19, 2017, 11:47:22 AM
Tikay is really on his game with this one, I guess he is in the Biz though.

Come 2022 he'll be on the list


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 11:48:28 AM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k

None of it is clear cut.

Norton is listed as £900,000, but that is only for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work.

His "highly-rated" BBC1 Show is not included in the £900k, as the fees are paid via a Production Company, similar to the Jonathan Ross scenario I outlined earlier.

Why do you put highly rated in quotation marks?

Norton is clearly the most talented of BBC performers and deserves the highest salary IMO

Well it's just my opinion, but there is nothing I admire about Graham Norton, not one single thing, & I'd not cross the road to watch him if the tickets were free. I have him on a par with that Miranda woman.

Whereas if it were Chris Evans, that's a different matter altogether of course.

IMO......


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: The Camel on July 19, 2017, 11:51:12 AM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k

None of it is clear cut.

Norton is listed as £900,000, but that is only for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work.

His "highly-rated" BBC1 Show is not included in the £900k, as the fees are paid via a Production Company, similar to the Jonathan Ross scenario I outlined earlier.

Why do you put highly rated in quotation marks?

Norton is clearly the most talented of BBC performers and deserves the highest salary IMO

Well it's just my opinion, but there is nothing I admire about Graham Norton, not one single thing, & I'd not cross the road to watch him if the tickets were free. I have him on a par with that Miranda woman.

Whereas if it were Chris Evans, that's a different matter altogether of course.

IMO......

Dear oh dear.

Evans over Norton? Not in a million years.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 12:04:56 PM
Just having a nosey around this.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf)

and this stuck out on page 31.

Radio 1 costs £36m and costs 1.2p per user hour
Radio 2 costs £51m and costs 0.5p per user hour
Radio 3 costs £37m and costs 5.7p per user hour
Radio 4 costs £88m and costs 1.3p per user hour

of others
Radio 6 music costs £11m and costs 0.9p per user hour
Radio Asian Network costs £7m and costs 3.4p per user hour

They wanted to close 6 music and asian network and radio 1 gets its fair share of knockers.   

Why are we paying so much for Radio 3, which performs so dismally in comparison to the others?  I assume this is similar to why Yentob gets paid so well for his presenting.



Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: EvilPie on July 19, 2017, 12:15:55 PM
Just having a nosey around this.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf)

and this stuck out on page 31.

Radio 1 costs £36m and costs 1.2p per user hour
Radio 2 costs £51m and costs 0.5p per user hour
Radio 3 costs £37m and costs 5.7p per user hour
Radio 4 costs £88m and costs 1.3p per user hour

of others
Radio 6 music costs £11m and costs 0.9p per user hour
Radio Asian Network costs £7m and costs 3.4p per user hour

They wanted to close 6 music and asian network and radio 1 gets its fair share of knockers.   

Why are we paying so much for Radio 3, which performs so dismally in comparison to the others?  I assume this is similar to why Yentob gets paid so well for his presenting.



That figure is only so high because hardly anybody listens to it.

Isn't that the point of having the BBC publicly funded though, so that even the things that hardly anybody wants to watch or listen to still get a chance to be aired?

If it wasn't publicly funded then radio 3 would obviously disappear based on those figures but that wouldn't be nice for the bloke who listens to it would it :(


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
Just having a nosey around this.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf)

and this stuck out on page 31.

Radio 1 costs £36m and costs 1.2p per user hour
Radio 2 costs £51m and costs 0.5p per user hour
Radio 3 costs £37m and costs 5.7p per user hour
Radio 4 costs £88m and costs 1.3p per user hour

of others
Radio 6 music costs £11m and costs 0.9p per user hour
Radio Asian Network costs £7m and costs 3.4p per user hour

They wanted to close 6 music and asian network and radio 1 gets its fair share of knockers.  

Why are we paying so much for Radio 3, which performs so dismally in comparison to the others?  I assume this is similar to why Yentob gets paid so well for his presenting.



That figure is only so high because hardly anybody listens to it.

Isn't that the point of having the BBC publicly funded though, so that even the things that hardly anybody wants to watch or listen to still get a chance to be aired?

If it wasn't publicly funded then radio 3 would obviously disappear based on those figures but that wouldn't be nice for the bloke who listens to it would it :(


Exactly that, IMO.

This is the very essence of the BBC.

If it were all about popularity, we'd have wall to wall SCD, BGT, X Factor and the like.

There has to be room for stuff like Springwatch and the like though.

Personally, I'd let the commercially funded channels do all the so-called light entertainment, leaving the BBC to do the stuff for grown ups.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: RickBFA on July 19, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
It's a weird marketplace. A few surprised me though :

Jeremy Vine £700K plus
Huw Edwards £500k plus
Stephen Nolan £400k plus
Alex Jones £400k plus
Jason Mohammed £250k plus

For me, they are not worth that money. Plenty of up and coming talent available for less money IMO.




Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 12:20:24 PM
Jason Mohammed earns more than John Inverdale

not a fan of either really, but it surprised me


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: 4KSuited on July 19, 2017, 12:21:26 PM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k

None of it is clear cut.

Norton is listed as £900,000, but that is only for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work.

His "highly-rated" BBC1 Show is not included in the £900k, as the fees are paid via a Production Company, similar to the Jonathan Ross scenario I outlined earlier.

Why do you put highly rated in quotation marks?

Norton is clearly the most talented of BBC performers and deserves the highest salary IMO

Well it's just my opinion, but there is nothing I admire about Graham Norton, not one single thing, & I'd not cross the road to watch him if the tickets were free. I have him on a par with that Miranda woman.

Whereas if it were Chris Evans, that's a different matter altogether of course.

IMO......

I'd put Evans in the same room as Piers Morgan and Lewis Hamilton.... And throw away the key.

And yes, Norton is probably the Beeb's greatest talent.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 12:23:39 PM
Jason Mohammed earns more than John Inverdale

not a fan of either really, but it surprised me

To be fair, even Graham Norton is worth more than John "Never gonna be a looker" Inverdale.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Graham C on July 19, 2017, 12:30:32 PM
Tickets generally are free to see Graham Norton, you could be put to the test here Tikay :D


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 12:32:42 PM
Tickets generally are free to see Graham Norton, you could be put to the test here Tikay :D

I'd not watch him if they paid me.

Gill enjoys watching him though, but she tends to watch a lot of shite TV.   


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 12:33:07 PM
Just having a nosey around this.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf)

and this stuck out on page 31.

Radio 1 costs £36m and costs 1.2p per user hour
Radio 2 costs £51m and costs 0.5p per user hour
Radio 3 costs £37m and costs 5.7p per user hour
Radio 4 costs £88m and costs 1.3p per user hour

of others
Radio 6 music costs £11m and costs 0.9p per user hour
Radio Asian Network costs £7m and costs 3.4p per user hour

They wanted to close 6 music and asian network and radio 1 gets its fair share of knockers.   

Why are we paying so much for Radio 3, which performs so dismally in comparison to the others?  I assume this is similar to why Yentob gets paid so well for his presenting.



That figure is only so high because hardly anybody listens to it.

Isn't that the point of having the BBC publicly funded though, so that even the things that hardly anybody wants to watch or listen to still get a chance to be aired?

If it wasn't publicly funded then radio 3 would obviously disappear based on those figures but that wouldn't be nice for the bloke who listens to it would it :(


I get that, but 6 music is the same.  It very much plays stuff the commerical stations don't, and they tried to close that.  

I am surprised it costs so much.  I can't beileve the presenters get paid that much as they aren't stars and presumably, they don't have to pay so much in royalties as Beethoven is long gone.

But more importantly, it is good to aim another kick at Yentob.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/alan-yentobs-resignation-only-makes-him-less-accountable-at-the-bbc/ (https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/alan-yentobs-resignation-only-makes-him-less-accountable-at-the-bbc/)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10102522/BBCs-Alan-Yentob-paid-two-salaries.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10102522/BBCs-Alan-Yentob-paid-two-salaries.html)

Yuck, just realised I agree with Philip Davies on something.  


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 12:38:25 PM
Just having a nosey around this.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf)

and this stuck out on page 31.

Radio 1 costs £36m and costs 1.2p per user hour
Radio 2 costs £51m and costs 0.5p per user hour
Radio 3 costs £37m and costs 5.7p per user hour
Radio 4 costs £88m and costs 1.3p per user hour

of others
Radio 6 music costs £11m and costs 0.9p per user hour
Radio Asian Network costs £7m and costs 3.4p per user hour

They wanted to close 6 music and asian network and radio 1 gets its fair share of knockers.  

Why are we paying so much for Radio 3, which performs so dismally in comparison to the others?  I assume this is similar to why Yentob gets paid so well for his presenting.



That figure is only so high because hardly anybody listens to it.

Isn't that the point of having the BBC publicly funded though, so that even the things that hardly anybody wants to watch or listen to still get a chance to be aired?

If it wasn't publicly funded then radio 3 would obviously disappear based on those figures but that wouldn't be nice for the bloke who listens to it would it :(


I get that, but 6 music is the same.  It very much plays stuff the commerical stations don't, and they tried to close that.  

I am surprised it costs so much.  I can't beileve the presenters get paid that much as they aren't stars and presumably, they don't have to pay so much in royalties as Beethoven is long gone.

But more importantly, it is good to aim another kick at Yentob.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/alan-yentobs-resignation-only-makes-him-less-accountable-at-the-bbc/ (https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/alan-yentobs-resignation-only-makes-him-less-accountable-at-the-bbc/)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10102522/BBCs-Alan-Yentob-paid-two-salaries.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10102522/BBCs-Alan-Yentob-paid-two-salaries.html)

Yuck, just realised I agree with Philip Davies on something.  

I would assume the transmission costs & "backend costs" of all mainstream BBC Radio Stations are very similar, so if the audience falls below a certain threshold, the "per user" costs escalate rapidly.

I very much doubt that much of the 5.7p per user hour can be attributed to Presenters, "on-air" salaries, or PRS costs.

The BBC has Central Accounting, Services & Management, too, so smaller enterprises such as Radio 6 are bound to be penalised by central charges.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 01:03:37 PM
Just having a nosey around this.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/reports/pdf/bbc-annualreport-201617.pdf)

and this stuck out on page 31.

Radio 1 costs £36m and costs 1.2p per user hour
Radio 2 costs £51m and costs 0.5p per user hour
Radio 3 costs £37m and costs 5.7p per user hour
Radio 4 costs £88m and costs 1.3p per user hour

of others
Radio 6 music costs £11m and costs 0.9p per user hour
Radio Asian Network costs £7m and costs 3.4p per user hour

They wanted to close 6 music and asian network and radio 1 gets its fair share of knockers.  

Why are we paying so much for Radio 3, which performs so dismally in comparison to the others?  I assume this is similar to why Yentob gets paid so well for his presenting.



That figure is only so high because hardly anybody listens to it.

Isn't that the point of having the BBC publicly funded though, so that even the things that hardly anybody wants to watch or listen to still get a chance to be aired?

If it wasn't publicly funded then radio 3 would obviously disappear based on those figures but that wouldn't be nice for the bloke who listens to it would it :(


I get that, but 6 music is the same.  It very much plays stuff the commerical stations don't, and they tried to close that.  

I am surprised it costs so much.  I can't beileve the presenters get paid that much as they aren't stars and presumably, they don't have to pay so much in royalties as Beethoven is long gone.

But more importantly, it is good to aim another kick at Yentob.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/alan-yentobs-resignation-only-makes-him-less-accountable-at-the-bbc/ (https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/alan-yentobs-resignation-only-makes-him-less-accountable-at-the-bbc/)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10102522/BBCs-Alan-Yentob-paid-two-salaries.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10102522/BBCs-Alan-Yentob-paid-two-salaries.html)

Yuck, just realised I agree with Philip Davies on something.  

I would assume the transmission costs & "backend costs" of all mainstream BBC Radio Stations are very similar, so if the audience falls below a certain threshold, the "per user" costs escalate rapidly.

I very much doubt that much of the 5.7p per user hour can be attributed to Presenters, "on-air" salaries, or PRS costs.

The BBC has Central Accounting, Services & Management, too, so smaller enterprises such as Radio 6 are bound to be penalised by central charges.

Meh, Springwatch gets decent audiences as far as I know. 

I know there isn't much between them, but I was pretty surprised it costs more than radio 1. We have to pay the likes of grimshaw near 400k (I obviously don't like the fella, but guess he is popular enough to deserve that, so not going down that dark alley), so guessing the total presenter bill for radio 1 is a, significant, few million pounds more than Radio 3.  The royalty costs must be a significant difference too?   

My wife does a lot of classical music stuff, and the daughters are learning to play too.  I just think the audience is literally dying off.  You go to a classical music concert, and I guess it is mainly friends and relatives, and a fair few of those are just doing their duty.  The rest are mainly pensioners.  I can't see it getting any better any time soon.  On your side, I guess a fair few of the audience for radio 3 aren't searching on the interent for their music anytime soon.




Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 01:10:54 PM
Jason Mohammed earns more than John Inverdale

not a fan of either really, but it surprised me

Isn't that just because Inverdale has lost a few TV gigs recently?  I wouldn't be suprised if it was the first year this had happened.   


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 19, 2017, 01:15:11 PM
Jason Mohammed earns more than John Inverdale

not a fan of either really, but it surprised me

Isn't that just because Inverdale has lost a few TV gigs recently?  I wouldn't be suprised if it was the first year this had happened.   

I thought this too, didnt he slag off his employers live on telly this last year or something?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: AndrewT on July 19, 2017, 01:48:30 PM
What does Inverdale do for BBC anyway? Five weekends of Six Nations, a bit of Wimbledon, some rowing highlights once in a blue moon?

What else?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 02:05:33 PM
What does Inverdale do for BBC anyway? Five weekends of Six Nations, a bit of Wimbledon, some rowing highlights once in a blue moon?

What else?

radio 5 eg the Open.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: 4KSuited on July 19, 2017, 02:19:10 PM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 19, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.

Didnt see that, assuming he only does MOTD that really is bad. I'd be pissed if I was Linekar given how much more he does.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 02:54:37 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: 4KSuited on July 19, 2017, 03:41:35 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

 ;ashamed;

Well at least Wright does 6 shows a week, and he must spend at least an hour a day on top, briefing his sycophants. Shearer is just Lineker's golf buddy. But I'll try to re-raise!


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: 4KSuited on July 19, 2017, 03:54:51 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

Re-raise

Stephen Nolan
As far as I'm aware, he does the wee hours of the morning shift on Five Live. Treble the usual rate for living like a vampire? He's certainly not particularly gifted, and I struggle to understand what he's saying a lot of the time.

£400-£450k ?
He must have a brilliant agent.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 04:16:34 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

Re-raise

Stephen Nolan
As far as I'm aware, he does the wee hours of the morning shift on Five Live. Treble the usual rate for living like a vampire? He's certainly not particularly gifted, and I struggle to understand what he's saying a lot of the time.

£400-£450k ?
He must have a brilliant agent.

5 days a week prime slot on bbc northern ireland as well

I am calling the TD for a ruling, confident i am ahead


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Marky147 on July 19, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
Glad I am so apathetic about life, when I see the internet going off about stuff like this :D

Not talking about here, fwiw. Just generally.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2017, 04:51:26 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

Re-raise

Stephen Nolan
As far as I'm aware, he does the wee hours of the morning shift on Five Live. Treble the usual rate for living like a vampire? He's certainly not particularly gifted, and I struggle to understand what he's saying a lot of the time.

£400-£450k ?
He must have a brilliant agent.

5 days a week prime slot on bbc northern ireland as well

I am calling the TD for a ruling, confident i am ahead

He's unique.

There's not another TV or Radio Presenter who can fairly be said to be worse than Colin Murray, John Inverdale & Sarah "Alan Partridge" Stirk combined, but Stephen manages it with ease.

Automatic One Orbit penalty.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: arbboy on July 19, 2017, 04:53:31 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

Re-raise

Stephen Nolan
As far as I'm aware, he does the wee hours of the morning shift on Five Live. Treble the usual rate for living like a vampire? He's certainly not particularly gifted, and I struggle to understand what he's saying a lot of the time.

£400-£450k ?
He must have a brilliant agent.

5 days a week prime slot on bbc northern ireland as well

I am calling the TD for a ruling, confident i am ahead

He's unique.

There's not another TV or Radio Presenter who can fairly be said to be worse than Colin Murray, John Inverdale & Sarah "Alan Partridge" Stirk combined, but Stephen manages it with ease.

Automatic One Orbit penalty.

I don't know the guy in question but i am struggling to understand how someone who is worse than CM and JI could have a job at the bbc.  Actually i think i have heard him late at night on five live on a drive home from a casino.  He sounds quite argumentative at times?  Is that the guy?  

Alex Jones at £400k a year is another shocker.  The one show is instant turn over tv for me as soon as the news finishes. There must be hundreds of pretty, girlie, quite simple bimbo types who could fill that role in easily at £100k a year max?  Just another one in the Holly W, Christine Lampard over paid/under talented types in the TV world who could be so easily replaced by hundreds more like them.

Would Holly have got where she has if she never married her first producer in TV?  Would Christine really have any high profile TV work without being married to Frank?  In comparison her former side kick who jumped ship to ITV from the BBC (Adrian Chiles) with her a few years ago in a huge 7 figure contract seems to have come right back down to earth on £200k a year now at the bbc.

Amongst the shafted few i think Fiona Bruce (£400k) and especially Brillo at £250k seems daylight robbery.  I thought Brillo would be close to being top of the tree.  He definitely needs a new agent.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: ripple11 on July 19, 2017, 05:14:35 PM
Alex Jones at £400k a year is another shocker.  The one show is instant turn over tv for me as soon as the news finishes. There must be hundreds of pretty, girlie, quite simple bimbo types who could fill that role in easily at £100k a year max?  Just another one in the Holly W, Christine Lampard over paid/under talented types in the TV world who could be so easily replaced by hundreds more like them.

+1



Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: 4KSuited on July 19, 2017, 05:18:03 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

Re-raise

Stephen Nolan
As far as I'm aware, he does the wee hours of the morning shift on Five Live. Treble the usual rate for living like a vampire? He's certainly not particularly gifted, and I struggle to understand what he's saying a lot of the time.

£400-£450k ?
He must have a brilliant agent.


5 days a week prime slot on bbc northern ireland as well

I am calling the TD for a ruling, confident i am ahead

He's unique.

There's not another TV or Radio Presenter who can fairly be said to be worse than Colin Murray, John Inverdale & Sarah "Alan Partridge" Stirk combined, but Stephen manages it with ease.

Automatic One Orbit penalty.

I don't know the guy in question but i am struggling to understand how someone who is worse than CM and JI could have a job at the bbc.  Actually i think i have heard him late at night on five live on a drive home from a casino.  He sounds quite argumentative at times?  Is that the guy?  

Alex Jones at £400k a year is another shocker.  The one show is instant turn over tv for me as soon as the news finishes. There must be hundreds of pretty, girlie, quite simple bimbo types who could fill that role in easily at £100k a year max?  Just another one in the Holly W, Christine Lampard over paid/under talented types in the TV world who could be so easily replaced by hundreds more like them.

Would Holly have got where she has if she never married her first producer in TV?  Would Christine really have any high profile TV work without being married to Frank?  In comparison her former side kick who jumped ship to ITV from the BBC (Adrian Chiles) with her a few years ago in a huge 7 figure contract seems to have come right back down to earth on £200k a year now at the bbc.

That's the guy.

Dottun Adebayo shares the 5Live early morning show responsibilities, but he's bad enough to not make it into this list. Sure he's a lovely guy, but abso woeful as a presenter. Nearly always wrong with his recollections, and rarely has anything of interest to say.

On the other hand, I quite like CM in Fighting Talk...


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: arbboy on July 19, 2017, 05:22:14 PM
Seriously how can SN be worth nearly two Brillo's?  Just on the shows alone they present never mind the absolute difference in class between their performances.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Micko on July 19, 2017, 06:43:26 PM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

Re-raise

Stephen Nolan
As far as I'm aware, he does the wee hours of the morning shift on Five Live. Treble the usual rate for living like a vampire? He's certainly not particularly gifted, and I struggle to understand what he's saying a lot of the time.

£400-£450k ?
He must have a brilliant agent.

Nolan works 7 days a week across three stations on BBC, his radio ulster talkshow in the morning is the biggest in the country. Him and his team have over the years uncovered huge political scandals, recently the DUP and RHI scheme.

I certainly think he is worth his salary and good luck to him I say.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 06:23:23 AM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k

None of it is clear cut.

Norton is listed as £900,000, but that is only for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work.

His "highly-rated" BBC1 Show is not included in the £900k, as the fees are paid via a Production Company, similar to the Jonathan Ross scenario I outlined earlier.

It transpires that in addition to the £900,000 that Mr Norton earns "directly" from the BBC for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work, he gets £2,600,000 from "SO Television" for The Graham Norton Show.

http://www.sotelevision.co.uk/productions.html


He actually half owned SO Television until it was sold in 2012.

Who owns it now?

ITV.

Remarkably, Camel's prediction that Graham Norton earned £4 milly pa from the BBC was not far out.

Be interesting to see how much Chris Evans actually earns when his "own label" Productions are included.


Amazing how much money these guys earn. The Graham Norton Show is on Series 21, he must be absolutely minted.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 20, 2017, 09:31:33 AM
I raise

Steve Wright in the afternoon

500k.

Action back to you

Re-raise

Stephen Nolan
As far as I'm aware, he does the wee hours of the morning shift on Five Live. Treble the usual rate for living like a vampire? He's certainly not particularly gifted, and I struggle to understand what he's saying a lot of the time.

£400-£450k ?
He must have a brilliant agent.

5 days a week prime slot on bbc northern ireland as well

I am calling the TD for a ruling, confident i am ahead

He's unique.

There's not another TV or Radio Presenter who can fairly be said to be worse than Colin Murray, John Inverdale & Sarah "Alan Partridge" Stirk combined, but Stephen manages it with ease.

Automatic One Orbit penalty.

I don't know the guy in question but i am struggling to understand how someone who is worse than CM and JI could have a job at the bbc.  Actually i think i have heard him late at night on five live on a drive home from a casino.  He sounds quite argumentative at times?  Is that the guy?  

Alex Jones at £400k a year is another shocker.  The one show is instant turn over tv for me as soon as the news finishes. There must be hundreds of pretty, girlie, quite simple bimbo types who could fill that role in easily at £100k a year max?  Just another one in the Holly W, Christine Lampard over paid/under talented types in the TV world who could be so easily replaced by hundreds more like them.

Would Holly have got where she has if she never married her first producer in TV?  Would Christine really have any high profile TV work without being married to Frank?  In comparison her former side kick who jumped ship to ITV from the BBC (Adrian Chiles) with her a few years ago in a huge 7 figure contract seems to have come right back down to earth on £200k a year now at the bbc.

Amongst the shafted few i think Fiona Bruce (£400k) and especially Brillo at £250k seems daylight robbery.  I thought Brillo would be close to being top of the tree.  He definitely needs a new agent.

The old slept with the boss card.  Dare say you have never said a man got where he is by sleeping with the boss?

Holly Willoughby is pretty much loved by everyone.  She met her husband on the show.  A big chunk of people marry people they met at work, there isn't anything unusual.  It wasn't even her first tv show, and she won a BAFTA for her role in it.  Are you seriously suggesting she got a BAFTA because she was going out with a producer at the time?  I am guessing not, so she must have got it because she was good at her job.

If that wasn't ridiculous enough, you raise the bar with Christine Lampard.  She worked in TV from doing her A levels.  She was a main presenter on the One Show when she met him.  Surely she didn't get that job because she was going to meet Frank in two years?  She didn't get on Strictly because Frank would be along in a year. 

Takes 2 minutes to check shit like this.

A lot of women can get along just fine in their careers without sleeping with or marrying a man. 


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 20, 2017, 11:28:35 AM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.

Surprised it took until page 4 for this abomination to get a shout out.

Some archaic 'analysis' every Saturday night nets him 400k+ a year? Absurd.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: EvilPie on July 20, 2017, 11:48:40 AM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.

Surprised it took until page 4 for this abomination to get a shout out.

Some archaic 'analysis' every Saturday night nets him 400k+ a year? Absurd.

They've got to have someone doing it though haven't they. An ex footballer who's probably worth £10m+ isn't going it give up his Saturday night for less than £10k. Does he do 40 Saturdays a year? If he does then it's probably not such bad value.

You just have to accept that some people got a bit lucky with what they were born with and the cards they've been dealt since and now they're earning bucket loads.



Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 11:51:59 AM

^^^^

I would guess his net worth is nearer £100 million than £10 million.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Marky147 on July 20, 2017, 11:53:13 AM
This is my attitude to what others earn

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AFrFKWEoqo

Find it makes the days a lot easier, if you take that attitude to most things that crop up ;D


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Marky147 on July 20, 2017, 11:55:41 AM

^^^^

I would guess his net worth is nearer £100 million than £10 million.

Not vain enough to cough up for hair transplants, either.

Good luck to him.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 20, 2017, 11:56:28 AM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.

Surprised it took until page 4 for this abomination to get a shout out.

Some archaic 'analysis' every Saturday night nets him 400k+ a year? Absurd.

They've got to have someone doing it though haven't they. An ex footballer who's probably worth £10m+ isn't going it give up his Saturday night for less than £10k. Does he do 40 Saturdays a year? If he does then it's probably not such bad value.

You just have to accept that some people got a bit lucky with what they were born with and the cards they've been dealt since and now they're earning bucket loads.



In the Secret Footballer book he shared the going rates for punditry on soccer saturday and the beeb and stuff. £400 to do it at the game itself, about £800 in studio, and a grand-ish for the Paul Mersons who are regular. Per match obviously.

So 400k seems a very good deal based on that.



Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 12:02:47 PM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.

Surprised it took until page 4 for this abomination to get a shout out.

Some archaic 'analysis' every Saturday night nets him 400k+ a year? Absurd.

They've got to have someone doing it though haven't they. An ex footballer who's probably worth £10m+ isn't going it give up his Saturday night for less than £10k. Does he do 40 Saturdays a year? If he does then it's probably not such bad value.

You just have to accept that some people got a bit lucky with what they were born with and the cards they've been dealt since and now they're earning bucket loads.



In the Secret Footballer book he shared the going rates for punditry on soccer saturday and the beeb and stuff. £400 to do it at the game itself, about £800 in studio, and a grand-ish for the Paul Mersons who are regular. Per match obviously.

So 400k seems a very good deal based on that.



May be completely true, but I read one of those "Secret Footballer" books & thought it was utter tripe, & did not reflect reality.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 12:03:52 PM
This is my attitude to what others earn

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AFrFKWEoqo

Find it makes the days a lot easier, if you take that attitude to most things that crop up ;D

Ha.

I don't give one of those F things either, but I do find it all jolly interesting.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 20, 2017, 12:05:20 PM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.

Surprised it took until page 4 for this abomination to get a shout out.

Some archaic 'analysis' every Saturday night nets him 400k+ a year? Absurd.

They've got to have someone doing it though haven't they. An ex footballer who's probably worth £10m+ isn't going it give up his Saturday night for less than £10k. Does he do 40 Saturdays a year? If he does then it's probably not such bad value.

You just have to accept that some people got a bit lucky with what they were born with and the cards they've been dealt since and now they're earning bucket loads.



There are plenty of ex footballers kicking about! For 400k+ a year (or a lot less) I'm sure they could find someone more articulate, coherent and relevant.

Wasn't Hansen on a milly a year before he left/was pushed? Incred sums for dinosaurs offering archaic analysis. The game has moved on a hell of a lot since Shearer's heyday, yet he's still stuck in 1998.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 12:10:40 PM

It suddenly occurred to me that David Dimbelby was a notable omission from the list - he must be on a 7 figure number, surely?

After some googling & wiki-ing, it seems that Question Time is made by an Indie - Tinopolis - so Mr D would not appear on the BBC list.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinopolis


There were rumours Tinopolis would be sold for up to £300 million recently. Lot of money in Independent TV Production, it seems.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/15/question-time-bt-football-tinopolis-media-company-for-sale




Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Doobs on July 20, 2017, 01:01:12 PM
Alan Shearer
£400-£450k

W.T.F.

Absolutely shocking waste of license fee payers' money.

Surprised it took until page 4 for this abomination to get a shout out.

Some archaic 'analysis' every Saturday night nets him 400k+ a year? Absurd.

They've got to have someone doing it though haven't they. An ex footballer who's probably worth £10m+ isn't going it give up his Saturday night for less than £10k. Does he do 40 Saturdays a year? If he does then it's probably not such bad value.

You just have to accept that some people got a bit lucky with what they were born with and the cards they've been dealt since and now they're earning bucket loads.



In the Secret Footballer book he shared the going rates for punditry on soccer saturday and the beeb and stuff. £400 to do it at the game itself, about £800 in studio, and a grand-ish for the Paul Mersons who are regular. Per match obviously.

So 400k seems a very good deal based on that.



At a grand a visit to the studio, how does that make 400 grand a year a very good deal?   I am not taking a view on Shearer's salary. 

£400 for a match doesn't seem huge for commentating at a game for someone who is used to enormous wages.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 20, 2017, 01:05:17 PM
A good deal for Shearer is what I meant


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 20, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Jeremy Kyle makes £2.5m a year. Thoughts?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: arbboy on July 20, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Jeremy Kyle makes £2.5m a year. Thoughts?


Wish it was more so he could spray it around the gambling industry like he used to!


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Woodsey on July 20, 2017, 02:18:39 PM
Jeremy Kyle makes £2.5m a year. Thoughts?


Not my bag but good luck to him if he can get it....


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: 4KSuited on July 20, 2017, 08:09:31 PM
Jeremy Kyle makes £2.5m a year. Thoughts?


A significant element of "danger money" I suspect. Can only imagine how many death threats he must get. And how many others would want the gig?


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: Karabiner on July 20, 2017, 08:29:22 PM
Norton  - £4m
Lineker - £2m
Evans - £2m
Marr - £500k
Kuenssberg - £250k

None of it is clear cut.

Norton is listed as £900,000, but that is only for Eurovision & his Radio 2 work.

His "highly-rated" BBC1 Show is not included in the £900k, as the fees are paid via a Production Company, similar to the Jonathan Ross scenario I outlined earlier.

Why do you put highly rated in quotation marks?

Norton is clearly the most talented of BBC performers and deserves the highest salary IMO

Well it's just my opinion, but there is nothing I admire about Graham Norton, not one single thing, & I'd not cross the road to watch him if the tickets were free. I have him on a par with that Miranda woman.

Whereas if it were Chris Evans, that's a different matter altogether of course.

IMO......

Evans ??? A man who is banned for life from playing in The Dunhill Links Championship for dodgy handicap practises.



Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 23, 2017, 09:16:03 AM
Female BBC stars' letter demanding equal pay to Tony Hall in full

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/22/female-bbc-stars-letter-demanding-equal-pay-tony-hall-full/


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 24, 2017, 06:59:04 AM
Response from BBC DG Tony Hall to letter from female presenters

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Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 24, 2017, 07:16:53 AM

^^^^

I really don't agree with the main thrust of that.

We should not be seeking parity on Presenters by gender (50/50 split) or parity on wages.

We should be seeking to reward talent based upon ability & skill, not gender.

If it ended up with 80% of the Presenting roles being awarded to women because they are better, that's fine by me. And on the same basis, if those women are better than their male counterparts, they should be paid MORE, not the same. 

The reverse applies, too. If men are better at any particular role, they should be paid more & there should not be parity as to how many of them there are.

Increasingly, society & Government are making this mistake - women must have 50% of the roles. That's very very wrong imo. Award positions & salary based on merit, not gender.

 


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 24, 2017, 07:23:47 AM

^^^^

I really don't agree with the main thrust of that.

We should not be seeking parity on Presenters by gender (50/50 split) or parity on wages.

We should be seeking to reward talent based upon ability & skill, not gender.

If it ended up with 80% of the Presenting roles being awarded to women because they are better, that's fine by me. And on the same basis, if those women are better than their male counterparts, they should be paid MORE, not the same. 

The reverse applies, too. If men are better at any particular role, they should be paid more & there should not be parity as to how many of them there are.

Increasingly, society & Government are making this mistake - women must have 50% of the roles. That's very very wrong imo. Award positions & salary based on merit, not gender.

 


Welcome to modern politics, equality of outcome vs equality of opportunity.

Interesting nugget for ya, in Scandinavia where they have done the most work to remove gender barriers in business and the workplace, more women have flocked to stereotypically 'female' professions like teaching and nursing, not to business, science, etc. The reason being that when you take away as many environmental barriers, it actually amplifies the biological factors. Men and women migrate more towards the jobs they wanted when they were kids instinctively.




Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 24, 2017, 07:27:52 AM
Its a shame the BBC wasnt able to breakdown in more detail the amount of work done by each person and so on. I saw lots of people kicking off about Matt Baker earning more than his One Show counterpart, but I believe he also does Countryfile and some Athletics coverage too. Lots of apples to orange comparisons in that earnings list.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: tikay on July 24, 2017, 07:32:06 AM
Its a shame the BBC wasnt able to breakdown in more detail the amount of work done by each person and so on. I saw lots of people kicking off about Matt Baker earning more than his One Show counterpart, but I believe he also does Countryfile and some Athletics coverage too. Lots of apples to orange comparisons in that earnings list.

Agree entirely.

The Media let us all down badly in how they handled this - they all had an agenda. Anything to criticise the establishment goes, it seems.

"It's not fair" seems to be a more popular headline than "it's all good".

There seem to be very few exceptions to this in the Media.


Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 24, 2017, 07:41:19 AM
Its a shame the BBC wasnt able to breakdown in more detail the amount of work done by each person and so on. I saw lots of people kicking off about Matt Baker earning more than his One Show counterpart, but I believe he also does Countryfile and some Athletics coverage too. Lots of apples to orange comparisons in that earnings list.

Agree entirely.

The Media let us all down badly in how they handled this - they all had an agenda. Anything to criticise the establishment goes, it seems.

"It's not fair" seems to be a more popular headline than "it's all good".

There seem to be very few exceptions to this in the Media.

I sadly think this is the case whenever you get a large company and/or large groups of people working together. 11 years ago I worked for a massive insurance company and it was remarkable how much "it's not fair' could get you. The amount of people I worked with who did absolutely nothing but would kick off when somebody else got a pay rise. I used to specifically ask my bosses 'what do I need to do to get a pay rise?' and then I would do those things, but this apparently was 'arse kissing'.

I may have shared this story before, but one of my best friends, Australian dude, was the top salesman for that country three years running. First year he got a massive bonus and everyone patted him on the back. The next year he got a massive bonus and everyone grumbled a bit. The third year he got a massive bonus and the bosses told him that they were dividing the bonus between everyone in the team, because....."It's not fair."

He is back in Australia now, crushing it, and when he gets a massive bonus, all his colleagues are telling him well done and trying to get advice on how they can also do well. I know he missed home, but I'm pretty sure the bonus thing was what speeded up his move back.



Title: Re: Guess their salary
Post by: TightEnd on July 30, 2017, 04:20:55 PM
private eye

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