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Ignoring the preflop call (both players in the hand massively overplayed their hands after the flop so I had reasons for making the call), would anyone have played the hand differently on the flop?


[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Hand Start.
[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Seat 1 : DonDong has $1,529.25
[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Seat 2 : poketkkk has $589
[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Seat 3 : humza has $759
[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Seat 4 : quitnowxx has $965
[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Seat 5 : Domitian has $954.50
[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Seat 6 : agencia1 has $441
[Feb 6 02:15:11] : Domitian is the dealer.
[Feb 6 02:15:12] : agencia1 posted small blind.
[Feb 6 02:15:12] : DonDong posted big blind.
[Feb 6 02:15:12] : Game [124428] started with 6 players.
[Feb 6 02:15:12] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 6 02:15:12] : Seat 5 : Domitian has Td Jd
[Feb 6 02:15:16] : Moorman1 : no mate
[Feb 6 02:15:16] : poketkkk called $6 and raised $48
[Feb 6 02:15:16] : humza folded.
[Feb 6 02:15:18] : quitnowxx called $54
[Feb 6 02:15:21] : Domitian called $54
[Feb 6 02:15:23] : Moorman1 : i had to cash out
[Feb 6 02:15:24] : agencia1 folded.
[Feb 6 02:15:24] : DonDong folded.
[Feb 6 02:15:25] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 6 02:15:25] : Board cards [8d 5c 9d]
[Feb 6 02:15:28] : poketkkk bet $96
[Feb 6 02:15:32] : Moorman1 : vc f ucking me over
[Feb 6 02:15:35] : quitnowxx called $96 and raised $192
[Feb 6 02:15:39] : Moorman1 : 52nd in 50k which was annoying
[Feb 6 02:15:50] : It's your turn.
[Feb 6 02:15:50] : Domitian has 10 seconds to respond.
[Feb 6 02:15:54] : Domitian called $288 and raised $612.50 and is All-in
[Feb 6 02:16:00] : poketkkk called $439 and is All-in
[Feb 6 02:16:02] : quitnowxx called $612.50
[Feb 6 02:16:02] : Moorman1 : gl dom
[Feb 6 02:16:02] : Showdown!
[Feb 6 02:16:02] : Seat 5 : Domitian has Td Jd
[Feb 6 02:16:04] : Seat 2 : poketkkk has Ks Kc
[Feb 6 02:16:04] : Seat 4 : quitnowxx has 8h 8c
[Feb 6 02:16:04] : Seat 5 : Domitian has Td Jd
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Board cards [8d 5c 9d 2h 2d]
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Seat 5 : Domitian has Td Jd
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Domitian has Flush JT982
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Seat 4 : quitnowxx has 8h 8c
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : quitnowxx has Full House : 8s full of 2s
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : quitnowxx wins $730.13 with Full House : 8s full of 2s
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Seat 5 : Domitian has Td Jd
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Domitian has Flush JT982
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Seat 2 : poketkkk has Ks Kc
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : poketkkk has Two Pair: Kings and 2s
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : Seat 4 : quitnowxx has 8h 8c
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : quitnowxx has Full House : 8s full of 2s
[Feb 6 02:16:10] : quitnowxx wins $1,773.87 with Full House : 8s full of 2s
[Feb 6 02:16:18] : Moorman1 : wow
[Feb 6 02:16:23] : agencia1 : nh
[Feb 6 02:16:25] : Hand is over.

It turns out that you made the correct decision, since you are 43% to win in a three way pot when the big money goes in. Technically if your bankroll isn't a factor you should be happy to put a lot of money in the pot - in fact as much as possible.

But I'm not sure that I would've played the hand the same way you did. A lot of the profit you make from playing drawing hands aggressively comes from making your opponents fold when they should call. Against loose opponents who will call with all kinds of weak hands, I don't make these aggressive moves early on. Instead I play a little more passively and see what happens. Sometimes a card will come on the turn that kills my draw, like a board pair as in your example, and I'll fold (having saved money that I would have lost by pushing in on the flop) A lot of the time I'll make my hand and get paid off anyway.

It all depends on whether you can handle the big swings that come with making this kind of move, with increased long-term profit as a reward. I don't think I can.

I don't think I can flat call here, as If I make my flush draw for example, I'm going to struggle to get much more out of the hand.  Plus the maniac that bet first with his kings will push all in anyway with his overpair, although obviously didnt know that for sure at the time.

My bankroll can cope with these swings, but I don't particularly enjoy losing $2.5K pots lol.  Although in these circumstances I like to think of it as if I've only lost $450 (my initial buy in to the table), and taken a 50/50 gamble to quintuple my buy in.