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Title: Why should football suffer
Post by: typhoon13 on March 06, 2018, 01:59:47 PM
Mr Johnson said that if it emerged Russia was linked to the incident in Salisbury "it would be very difficult to imagine" that UK representation at this summer's football World Cup could go ahead in the "normal way".


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: RED-DOG on March 06, 2018, 02:34:15 PM
Mr Johnson said that if it emerged Russia was linked to the incident in Salisbury "it would be very difficult to imagine" that UK representation at this summer's football World Cup could go ahead in the "normal way".


I can't believe how much weight Boris Johnson has put on since he won Wimbledon.



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Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 06, 2018, 03:25:41 PM
It's just a clueless man saying foolish things that he hasn't thought through about a situation he probably doesn't understand. Not that football would suffer much either way.


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: Omm on March 06, 2018, 05:20:52 PM
Just said on LBC that his people have confirmed he meant the officials not the footballers, very weak excuse, I wonder does someone despair when he gets up to make a speech.


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: typhoon13 on March 06, 2018, 05:41:57 PM
Just said on LBC that his people have confirmed he meant the officials not the footballers, very weak excuse, I wonder does someone despair when he gets up to make a speech.

Typically living up to his name Buffoon


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: PokerBroker on March 06, 2018, 07:00:42 PM
The immediate back track is because FIFA would have come down hard on politicians getting involved in Association Football.  They don't like politics, unless of course it's their politics.


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: MintTrav on March 08, 2018, 02:35:46 PM
Not gonna comment any further on Boris but the team should be withdrawn if an important enough political event occurred. (This is not that event.)


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: TheDazzler on March 08, 2018, 10:42:56 PM
Not gonna comment any further on Boris but the team should be withdrawn if an important enough political event occurred. (This is not that event.)
They should only withdraw if they had no chance of winning that event (which is the case with the World Cup!)


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 09, 2018, 08:59:02 AM
Not gonna comment any further on Boris but the team should be withdrawn if an important enough political event occurred. (This is not that event.)
They should only withdraw if they had no chance of winning that event (which is the case with the World Cup!)

Elemenents of foreign policy should be dictated by the estimated outcome of a (kind of silly) game? Sounds good.


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: 4KSuited on March 09, 2018, 12:40:37 PM
Given that

FIFA's awarding of the World Cup to Russia & Qatar was corrupt
Russia has consistently involved itself with doping in sports - including football
Russia has committed acts of international aggression - annexing Crimea; fomenting war in Eastern Ukraine; shooting down a civilian airliner; continues to bomb civilians in Gouta (yes, I know we do similar in Yemen)
Russia appears to have a programme of political assassination (the Salisbury case is only one of many)
England has ~2% chance of winning it
There's probably >25% chance that real harm will come to English supporters

It wouldn't be a bad decision to withdraw from this WC.... And the one in Qatar, which is equally repugnant for a range of similar & other reasons

All IMHO of course


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: AndrewT on March 09, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
It would be a properly dickish move to pull out of a tournament once you've been charging 90,000 people £60 a pop to watch qualifying games for it on the basis of no new information (the notion that Russia is a corrupt dictatorship that gets up to some weapons-grade shady shit across the world is hardly new news).


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 09, 2018, 01:52:03 PM
Given that

FIFA's awarding of the World Cup to Russia & Qatar was corrupt
Russia has consistently involved itself with doping in sports - including football
Russia has committed acts of international aggression - annexing Crimea; fomenting war in Eastern Ukraine; shooting down a civilian airliner; continues to bomb civilians in Gouta (yes, I know we do similar in Yemen)
Russia appears to have a programme of political assassination (the Salisbury case is only one of many)
England has ~2% chance of winning it
There's probably >25% chance that real harm will come to English supporters

It wouldn't be a bad decision to withdraw from this WC.... And the one in Qatar, which is equally repugnant for a range of similar & other reasons

All IMHO of course

You make some very good points. How can our chance of winning it play a part in the decision? That bit is a joke right?


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: 4KSuited on March 09, 2018, 04:09:48 PM
Given that

FIFA's awarding of the World Cup to Russia & Qatar was corrupt
Russia has consistently involved itself with doping in sports - including football
Russia has committed acts of international aggression - annexing Crimea; fomenting war in Eastern Ukraine; shooting down a civilian airliner; continues to bomb civilians in Gouta (yes, I know we do similar in Yemen)
Russia appears to have a programme of political assassination (the Salisbury case is only one of many)
England has ~2% chance of winning it
There's probably >25% chance that real harm will come to English supporters

It wouldn't be a bad decision to withdraw from this WC.... And the one in Qatar, which is equally repugnant for a range of similar & other reasons

All IMHO of course

You make some very good points. How can our chance of winning it play a part in the decision? That bit is a joke right?

Yeh, that bit was just a preemptive strike vs our Scots, Welsh & Irish readers. ;0)


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: 4KSuited on March 09, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
It would be a properly dickish move to pull out of a tournament once you've been charging 90,000 people £60 a pop to watch qualifying games for it on the basis of no new information (the notion that Russia is a corrupt dictatorship that gets up to some weapons-grade shady shit across the world is hardly new news).

Isn’t it possible to disagree without being offensive?

That aside, it seems you’re ok with English fans getting smashed up & locked up. Fair enough, if you’re one of those who’s been shelling out £60 a pop.


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 09, 2018, 07:23:52 PM
Would be appalling if England weren't in the world cup, I love it when England play, can bet whoever they playing +0.5 and U2.5 goals and then going shopping in peace.


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: AndrewT on March 09, 2018, 09:52:18 PM
It would be a properly dickish move to pull out of a tournament once you've been charging 90,000 people £60 a pop to watch qualifying games for it on the basis of no new information (the notion that Russia is a corrupt dictatorship that gets up to some weapons-grade shady shit across the world is hardly new news).

Isn’t it possible to disagree without being offensive?

That aside, it seems you’re ok with English fans getting smashed up & locked up. Fair enough, if you’re one of those who’s been shelling out £60 a pop.

England pulling out of the WC now would just be virtue signalling posturing. The time to pull out of the Russia WC was as soon as it was announced when an obviously corrupt bid from a country with an appaling human rights record and a huge hooliganism problem won.

But we didn’t, we were cool with all that.

Also, probably better if you disagree with things I actually say, rather than constructing ‘AndrewT loves seeing England fans getting beaten up’ strawmen.


Title: Re: Why should football suffer
Post by: Tal on March 09, 2018, 10:16:49 PM
Would be appalling if England weren't in the world cup, I love it when England play, can bet whoever they playing +0.5 and U2.5 goals and then going shopping in peace. watch in Lagasse's in the Palazzo with a beer and a burger

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