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I have recently experienced this and it got me thinking. Is it common for winning players not to be invited back or “not welcome” to small stakes cash games? Is table talk simply frowned apon to the point the game may as well be a home game on Stars?

Sheering the sheep to fast is bad for the game, and raising with non premium hands such as 5677 single suited is bad etiquette and annoying? Because it cracks AAxx single suited...

Tipping the dealer at the end of the session my loose 1 pound chips is showing the regs up and again moaned about.

I’ve recently got back into the cash game scene so in many ways a new player to the game. Are only losing players welcome back?

If this is the case local small stakes games are going to dry out in a few years time.

Gamblers being grumpy, who'd have thought ;D

 ;applause;

If it's private, and I'm not pals with whoever runs/organises, I wouldn't expect to be getting in if I was good at poker.

Thankfully that's not something I'd ever have to worry about, and likely I'd be invited back every week :D

Sounds to me like you're focusing on the business of winning and not on the reason everyone else in the game is playing.

That's not a criticism - you're in it to make money - but it is an explanation.

I think it was the few players who organise it, do so to make money.  I do not play for a living, I have a full time job. For context all the players in the game have been playing for over a decade. The few who orgainse it play for a income.

It’s the first time I’ve experienced something like it. So I’m just wondering if this happens often.

Fair enough. The organisers might see you as playing a role they already have covered, then. If you want to stick in games like that, you have to play a role they are happy with. For those games for which the only acceptable role is a whale, you're probably just going to have to accept you're not getting back :)

Plenty.

Like Marky, it's not a problem I get often sadly.

Fair enough that is all - thanks guys

Maybe the table talk you mention has something to do with it.

Maybe, but I was never berating players or not being friendly. If I had lost and was saying the same things then I would have been welcomed back everyday of the week. Haters gunna hate.

If you weren't allowed back after one game then you must have been very objectionable :-)

If it was more games than this then I think you must have lacked the self awareness to appreciate how others (who could stop you playing) were viewing you.

Either way, with regret, I have to inform you it was probably your fault but might prove to be a good learning experience

Thin brags too :)

Absolutely with no doubt it must have been something I was doing wrong :)

All for experiences, live and learn.

From now on I’ll just zone out to music and chill out and just keep myself to myself.

Or you could speak to people, be everyone's mate and try to get into more games where you can make money repeatedly, while enjoying yourself too.

That'll be just the job ;D

I think this is what got me in trouble. Trying to be friendly and talk poker after hands. For example if they ask me what i have I’d tell them, they would say I had x and how lucky I was.

It's got very like this in my neck of the woods, most of the games organised via whatsapp etc.

You need to be involved in the banter, not scream when you get a bad beat and play long enough hours when winning to give losers a chance to 'get out of it'. Most importantly, you HAVE  to give action. Nits are not welcome in 90% of these type of games.

Yeah this a whatsapp game. Played over 5 hours both nights. Gave tons of action. Got lucky when hitting flops . Tried to get In on the banter and got told my banter is so bad! 😂😂

About the only thing I don't want to talk about is the hands I've just played, or anything to do with poker, and I'm only half a whale, lol.

Yeah I get that now. I would talk about hands I was involved in. Win or lose. But only after a question was fired my way.... I think this is what I may have done that pissed off players. Again I just wasn’t aware it was pissing them off until I get abuse the next day on WhatsApp.

Like I said. Head down, play my game. Win/lose/draw.

Just a shame as I like the social aspect of the game. Might need to take up another hobby.

Look forward to meeting you in Brighton Marky. First drink on me.

I just always try to find out if people at the table likes sports, gambling on other stuff, tv shows etc.

If you can find some common ground, it's always good for knocking barriers down.

Who's abusing you on whatsapp? Other people in the game?

Likewise, looking forward to meeting you, and seeing grumpy old Tikay, too ;D

It'll be cheap as I don't really drink now that I can stagger around like a drunk when I'm sober, lol.

You two guys both coming to SPT Brighton then?

Yeah, coming to give my cash away ;)

Not stopping overnight, though. Malmaison was sold out, and couldn't find anywhere reasonable for under 300 quid.

If you're trying to talk any type of poker strategy at any point that's probably the problem, got to be one of the worst topics at a poker table. Almost always divisive, alienates people and can put others on the defensive or make them feel stupid, nothing good can come out of it. Much better to talk about things that people have an opinion on but not one that will create problems, especially if its something they can take the piss about a bit. My first concert was a steps gig for example and I can still remember most of the words to their more popular songs :p

It's a 2 day event, but in your case I guess that works.

I heard that Malmaison was fully booked, the guys from Head Office tried to book it but it was full. Man United are in town that weekend playing Tony Bloom's mob which probably explains it.

I prefer to stay out of town, up near Hickstead Showground, lovely countryside up there.

Be a few blondes at SPT Brighton actually, oioi.

Ha!

I'll just fly back up on Sunday, should the dealer somehow give me the heater of all heaters.

Only a couple hours, so not the worst trip in the world.

Sure am. Looking forward to something a little different. I enjoyed the sky events up at DTD a couple of years back. So looking at enjoying these too.

I think that’s where I went wrong. I enjoy talking about poker, discussion strategies and that type of stuff. Again I never brerate anyone or ask the question “why did you do/not do that” But engaged with a guy who called me bluff on the river and the guy correctly called after tanking with the second nuts in PLO. Went something like “man I really thought you as it” I reply “I thought you had a middle set and could get you off it on the river. Good call.

So I will just resist the urge to engage in poker chat. But I generally feel rude by ignoring them or giving them one lines like nice hand.

Good man, look forward to seeing you there. Make sure to make yourself known to me please.

wtf! urgh

I think, from experience, with these types of situations the biggest mistake you can make is "trying" too hard to do anything....

I used to play in a private game up north when I was playing full time, and I was a consistent winner in it, I saw other players come in to the game and "try" to give loads of action, "try" to give loads of banter, "try" to be involved in the table talk, "try" to disguise the fact they were winning, and it all looked so disingenuous that for no specific reason it got people's backs up a bit.

My advice would be, just be yourself (providing you're a good bloke) be amenable to the game, if everyone straddles put the straddle on, if people are showing cards show cards, if people are doing some silly game like 7-2 or quads/trips in PLO then go along with it, and respect that the game is how the game is because that's how everyone (including the winners, who are just as entitled to an opinion on what they enjoy as the losers, even if it might not be given the same weight) who makes up the game likes it to be. What you should never do is put on any sort of fake front or anything just to be in a poker game, firstly it's not really a good thing to do anyway but secondly I just don't think it works.

I guess if I were to give any single piece of advice for something which might require a change of strategy form how you would ordinarily like to play is that of locking up, I think that's one thing that will probably annoy people in the game more than being quiet, or not being involved in the banter.

Surely this is more like the old DTD scenario where the organisers of the game don't want a competent/good player in the line up rather than how UgotNuts actually behaved at the table?

If they thought he was easy money he would be welcome back even if he acted like a twat, but if they think he is going to reduce their take home they wont want him there?

Having a couple of days to reflect I can comfortably say that I got this reaction solely because I won big over the two sessions. I straddled, gave more action than any other player on the table, never berated players or got moody when I lost a pot. Got involved in some of the banter. The first night, one of the most talkative players (and now internationally known) was playing and didn’t stop trash talking all night was playing. Difference was he was down 3/4 buy ins and I was up about that much.

I play the game in a rather unique way and adjust constantly when in pots with different types of players.

One comment I got from a reg was I sheared the sheep too quickly and that was annoying...

The same reg told me he has been winning around 300BB per session. However he booked a loss over the two nights I played and I stacked him once.

I’ll just stay away from private games and just play cash when I bust out of comps or later in the evening if I bag up to day 2.

1) Trolling
2) Aggravatingly smug
3) Delusional
4) A mixture of #2 & #3

GG

Examples?

Because I never troll anyone- Isn't this something you do online to people?
Smug- Never been called this before, So I can only assume it was taken the wrong way.
Delusional- I can agree with this- I tend to be on my own level of thinking most of the time. I'm either crazy or a genius. Probably crazy.

Point being, I never mean any harm to anyone and I simply didn't deserve all the negative comments that was thrown my way.

Its in the past now, we have all played 1000's of hands since then and I'm sure everyone has forgotten how some kid played in a game.

Good luck to you at the tables- Hope you ran above EV.

What’s not even been mentioned is that people who organise private games often select pros who are their mates and guys who sell them a piece.

Maybe they can’t ask you for a piece because you’re bad and just ran hot or because you might say something which is bad for the people who don’t entirely know the score.

From your posts, it does sound like your behaviour may be a little weird and maybe that’s as much a part of it as winning.