Title: Bluffing Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 07, 2006, 01:54:11 AM I've always found it interesting that they're aren't as many hand analysis threads around working a bluff. So I thought I'd try out one myself. Bamford had seemed a very fishy player, min-raising with a lot of hands in various positions, and the fact that he called a lot of flop bets but folded to many turn and river bets. (Notwithstanding the fact that about 10 hands later he knocked me out with AA vs KK after he limped after 3 other limpers and I raised!). Comment, criticise all you want please. I don't think we have enough threads about blondes being the bluffer.
Table "$5K MONDAY GTD 1834384 - 5" Seat 9 is the button. Seat 1: Foaming_h (1690 in chips) Seat 3: Chriss005 (2145 in chips) Seat 4: Biffo27 sits out Seat 5: Boy687 (4550 in chips) Seat 6: Rosario (2790 in chips) Seat 7: Napper sits out Seat 8: Paulen001 (1490 in chips) Seat 9: Mechanism (1755 in chips) Seat 10: Bamford (4085 in chips) Bamford: posts small blind 50 Foaming_h: posts big blind 100 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Foaming_h [Ts 9d] Chriss005: folds Biffo27: folds Biffo27 sits back Boy687: folds Rosario: folds Napper: folds Napper sits back Paulen001: folds Mechanism: folds Bamford: calls 50 Foaming_h: raises to 300 Bamford: calls 200 ----- FLOP ----- [Kd 4d As] Bamford: bets 100 Foaming_h: raises to 400 Bamford: calls 300 ----- TURN ----- [Kd 4d As][Jd] Bamford: checks Foaming_h: bets 990 and is all-in Bamford: folds Returned uncalled bets 990 to Foaming_h Foaming_h: doesn't show hand Foaming_h collects 1400 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot 1400 Main pot 1400 Rake 0 Board [Kd 4d As Jd] Seat 1: Foaming_h (big blind) collected 1400 Seat 3: Chriss005 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: Biffo27 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Boy687 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Rosario folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Napper folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Paulen001 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Mechanism (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 10: Bamford (small blind) folded on the Turn Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: byronkincaid on February 07, 2006, 03:01:11 AM Quote min-raising with a lot of hands in various positions, and the fact that he called a lot of flop bets but folded to many turn and river bets Very fishy? I think this is pretty good play early on in a tourney :D Probably not the sort of player I'd be trying to bluff at this stage and with him having so many chips. Anyway this is just a blind v blind game of chicken. He's probably trying to represent the flush but you put an end to that by going all in. He should have pushed first on the turn. Personally this is too early for me to try this sort of move but aggression is good and it worked so nice play. Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: thetank on February 07, 2006, 03:17:31 AM Never bluffed in my life mate so can't really bring anything to this. :D :D
Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 07, 2006, 03:45:29 AM Wasn't it 85off you had on Simon Trumper's blind? :D
Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: thetank on February 07, 2006, 04:51:59 AM That was a value bet, I knew what was coming.
Small point but it wasn't his blind. He came over the top of me in middle position with KJo. He knew with a high degree of cetainty that I had absolute trash. I may have doubled up, but it sure as hell shut me up. (Well, it would have if I weren't a jock on a mission) :respect: to ACES. Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: temp0r on February 07, 2006, 05:00:52 PM took alot of guts with another diamond on the board and possible straights. but nice read i guess.
Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: ifm on February 07, 2006, 06:11:15 PM What is this "bluff" thingy?
:dontask: :dontask: :dontask: Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: moritzey on February 07, 2006, 08:07:32 PM Come on, this wasn't a proper bluff, you had the gutshot straight draw ...
Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: ifm on February 07, 2006, 11:56:04 PM So noone wants to explain what a "bluff" is then?
Used to be so helpful on here............................ Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: thetank on February 08, 2006, 04:54:52 AM Ok, no-one else going to do take this one?
Just for you ifm, a "bluff" is a steep headland, promontory, riverbank, or cliff. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: Jayb on February 08, 2006, 12:09:24 PM Quote Posted by: moritzey Come on, this wasn't a proper bluff, you had the gutshot straight draw Moritzey is right, this was only a half bluff, but I guess that most of the time this would probably be the case, when you go all in you want to represent the strongest hand and if you do get called you usually want at least a couple of outs. The only problem with an all in move bluff IMO is that it can be a sign of weakness/bullying as you are trying to get people off of the pot which if you had a strong hand you wouldn’t really want to do…..unless of course you wanted me to think you were weak, so I guess it comes down to your opponent getting the right read on you. Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: WellChief on February 09, 2006, 04:26:03 PM Here's a 100%er bluff. The guy was playing weakly after flops and i felt i could win most pots against him. Hilariously the guy said, nh, then Kings, before folding and me showing. :D
------HAND 5------ Game #1687431964: Hold'em NL (£2/£5) - 2006/02/09 - 11:19:22 (ET) Table "Vallejo" Seat 3 is the button. Seat 1: SmalaPer (£479.75 in chips) Seat 2: Criztal (£530 in chips) Seat 3: Batman019 (£60 in chips) Seat 4: bronk1 (£581 in chips) Seat 5: WChief (£604 in chips) Seat 6: Equis (£493.65 in chips) bronk1: posts small blind £2 WChief: posts big blind £5 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to WChief [4h Kh] Equis: folds SmalaPer: folds Criztal: folds Batman019: folds bronk1: raises to £20 WChief: calls £15 ----- FLOP ----- [9s 8h 6d] bronk1: bets £25 WChief: calls £25 ----- TURN ----- [9s 8h 6d][9c] bronk1: checks WChief: bets £40 bronk1: calls £40 ----- RIVER ----- [9s 8h 6d 9c][7c] bronk1: checks WChief: bets £85 bronk1: folds Returned uncalled bets £85 to WChief ----- SHOW DOWN ----- WChief: shows [4h Kh] (A Pair of Nines, King high) WChief collects £167 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot £170 Main pot £167 Rake £3 Board [9s 8h 6d 9c 7c] Seat 1: SmalaPer folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: Criztal folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Batman019 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: bronk1 (small blind) folded on the River Seat 5: WChief (big blind) showed [4h Kh] and won (£167) with A Pair of Nines, King high Seat 6: Equis folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Bluffing Post by: ACE2M on February 09, 2006, 04:58:03 PM I almost called someone in a huge pot last night on the river because i just knew he was bluffing but sadly i bottled it with ace high and showed me the bluff after i congratulated him on it and folded.
The moral was don't give up after getting called on the turn, lump the rest in on the river as he still might fold. |