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Title: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 12:50:23 PM
Holdem has really taken off in my local over the last couple of months and there is normally a game on whenever theres four or more people who want to play.  We normally stick in a tenner and the top two get paid, second usually gets the buy in back.  Players are normally pissed but it is a good laugh. 

The problem is that most of the guys who play, IMHO, know how to play but don't really understand the game if that makes any sense.

I often find myself in with a premium hand that will get called all the way to the river no matter what cards the other person has and they get lucky.  They don't respect raises, they seem to have no knowledge of pot odds etc.  I actually had someone ask me last night why I folded preflop when there were still five cards to come.

So if anyone can give me hints as how to beat a game where people will call and raise with anything just in case they get lucky I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

 


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: lazaroonie on February 17, 2006, 12:54:36 PM
Is your local in high wycombe by chance mr F ?

It wouldnt have the initials BIH would it ?



Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 12:57:17 PM
Yes it is in SUnny Wycombe butit's not BIH but I believe I know the establishment you refer to, next door to another place that Ironside would enjoy?


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: matt674 on February 17, 2006, 12:58:08 PM
Apart from waiting until you've got the nuts every hand there isnt really much you can do. This is why i prefer to play in a game where the players have some basic grasp of the game.

How can i figure out what my opponent is doing if they dont know themselves??

Best thing to do is wait until you've got as good a hand as possible depending on your blind structure and hope that it holds up....


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: lazaroonie on February 17, 2006, 01:02:46 PM
yes, thats the place Mr F. Although to be fair the entertainers in that establishment were dog rough.

BIH used to be my local.


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 01:08:23 PM
Never been next door during the day honest guv and there much better than the ones in the Halfway house from what I heard.  Used to go on weekends for the music, used to have some really good bands on back in the day. 

How long ago were you in Wycombe then?  My ex's dad drinks in the BIH all the time, is mates with the landlord I think so I know a few who drink in there.  I'm on the opposite side of town myself drink in the KGV.


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: ACE2M on February 17, 2006, 01:17:37 PM
Don't raise pre flop without big premium pairs.

Limp a lot and when you make a big or nut hand milk em dry.

thats why i do anyway.


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: jezza777 on February 17, 2006, 02:10:43 PM
Sounds like my home game! I think the best way to play is to keep the raising preflop to a minimum unless you have a monster then push it very hard. Play lots of drawing hands and generally limp in, not very aggressive I know and I would never usually advocate playing this way but when people wont fold you need a hand to win simple as that. Dont reraise with draws (even 14 out ones) cos you WILL get busted by someone who cant fold second pair. It took me quite a few weeks to develop a winning strategy for these types of players and things like raising to narrow the field , or to define your opponents hands is a waste of chips. You always get paid off tho which is nice . Forget about bluffing in these games too. If you have a made hand that you want to protect then you generally have to massivley overbet it.
good luck

jezza


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: matt674 on February 17, 2006, 02:17:09 PM
What are the odds that this has nothing to do with a pub game in Wycombe?? Mr. F is just after tips on how to win the blonde tourney at Cincinatti's!!!  :D :D :D


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: rivered on February 17, 2006, 02:25:49 PM
i wish i'd had these tips last night... i played an 8 seater with some chaps in my rugby club... they are all completely pants, but I found I kept getting caught by people chasing draws on the river... argh!  The thing is, I'm sure I lose more in these games against complete beginners than i do in the lower limit games on line.  It's strange, because they're making more mistakes (in terms of calling with no odds) in these home games, but they don't seem to pay off over time.  very frustrating, but great fun trying to put them on hands!!


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 02:33:45 PM
"What are the odds that this has nothing to do with a pub game in Wycombe?? Mr. F is just after tips on how to win the blonde tourney at Cincinatti's!!!"

I know you're going to be gutted not to enjoy my drunken ramblings again Matt but I refer you to this

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=7094.30


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: matt674 on February 17, 2006, 02:38:01 PM
So you wont even be playing via the internet link - the blonde tourney is being run simultaneously live and online at www.cincinattipoker.com

we'll be in our seats in glasgow and you'll be in your hotel room in Monte Carlo!!

p.s. enjoy your trip and dont forget to re-mortgage your house for when you get back ;)


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 02:45:46 PM
SOmething tells me that getting internet access over there will be more expensive than the booze, not that I'll be drinking much.  Am gutted I'll be missing it, but when he starts getting comped tickets to Vegas for his loyal fans I know where I'll be!!


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Rod Paradise on February 17, 2006, 02:47:10 PM
not that I'll be drinking much

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Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 03:04:14 PM
I really don't know where everyone gets this idea of me being a big drinker comes from!!  (I can't so smileys at the mo so just take this as a wink)

Seriously though Rod I have actually cut down on me drinking.  Generally only one night a week now.  Honest


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Rod Paradise on February 17, 2006, 03:39:27 PM
I've cut down as well.... no drink before noon on a weekday.


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 03:42:46 PM
And only drink on days with a Y in the name??


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Rod Paradise on February 17, 2006, 03:45:53 PM
And only drink on days with a Y in the name??

Well of course....

BTW if I want to drink earlier the pub next to my flat is open for a pint at 9 am  :D


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: Mr F on February 17, 2006, 03:56:59 PM
Something tells me we'll be starting at that time when I go to MC, brekkie in the pub then off to the airport.


Title: Re: So how do I beat this game?
Post by: GlasgowBandit on February 17, 2006, 07:41:46 PM
What are the odds that this has nothing to do with a pub game in Wycombe?? Mr. F is just after tips on how to win the blonde tourney at Cincinatti's!!!  :D :D :D

Either that or he has been to the cin cin and got caught up in one of the £20 rebuy tournies!