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Title: Easy Laydown?? Post by: RyG on February 18, 2006, 03:35:31 PM I think ive made the right laydown here, any thoughts? Voxpopuli seems a solid player since the time he's at the table.
He said he had QQ here. What do you folks reckon? -----HAND 15------ Game #1594026613: Hold'em NL (£0.50/£1) - Table "Mantova" Seat 1 is the button. Seat 1: Oister (£69.75 in chips) Seat 2: VoxPopuli (£83.25 in chips) Seat 3: Ryg5098 (£48.75 in chips) Seat 4: Flodrotte (£28.75 in chips) Seat 5: SlimOdds (£99.50 in chips) Seat 6: Slayer004 (£97.25 in chips) VoxPopuli: posts small blind £0.50 Ryg5098: posts big blind £1 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Ryg5098 [Kh Kc] Flodrotte: folds SlimOdds: folds Slayer004: folds Oister: calls £1 VoxPopuli: raises to £2 Ryg5098: raises to £5 Oister: folds VoxPopuli: raises to £8 Ryg5098: calls £3 ----- FLOP ----- [5s Qd Jd] VoxPopuli: bets £75.25 and is all-in Ryg5098: folds Returned uncalled bets £75.25 to VoxPopuli VoxPopuli: doesn't show hand VoxPopuli collects £16.25 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot £17 Main pot £16.25 Rake £0.75 Board [5s Qd Jd] Seat 1: Oister (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: VoxPopuli (small blind) collected £16.25 Seat 3: Ryg5098 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 4: Flodrotte folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: SlimOdds folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Slayer004 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: booder on February 18, 2006, 03:47:16 PM i think its more likely he has A Q or A K with big diamond.......if he has Q Q why go all in , surely he would give you another card....i would be calling all day every day....BUT i am a fish at cash !
Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: RyG on February 18, 2006, 03:54:04 PM He said he was worried about the flush draw.. the stupid overbet is perfect if i have KK or AA tho isnt it..
Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: Newmanseye on February 18, 2006, 04:13:30 PM I would have called, he might have Q J but its not likely, Call for me, especially in a cash game.
Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: Royal Flush on February 18, 2006, 04:52:53 PM Intresting play....why are we not re-raising pre flop, and why are we folding on the flop?
Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: Tractor on February 18, 2006, 05:36:23 PM What are you putting him on to laydown?AA, QJ, Trips?
I think i would have definatly called. Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: M3boy on February 18, 2006, 05:48:22 PM I agree with James here
Re Raise preflop Also call - if he has QQ JJ QJ or flush draw and hits then goodluck to him Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: thetank on February 18, 2006, 06:17:06 PM Stick yer £40 quid in and take a look.
Don't shoite it every time someone mini-re-raises you pre flop, especially in a SB/BB pissing contest. The overbet screams flush draw or AQ to me, so I call. Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 18, 2006, 06:21:33 PM Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: M3boy on February 18, 2006, 08:12:47 PM Yeah i know - i think from now on I will agree with James ALL the time - life is too short
Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: RyG on February 18, 2006, 11:32:12 PM Well, i got chatting to the bloke (he's actually lives near me), and i talked him into sending me through his hand history and he did indeed have QQ.
I do re-raise preflop to which he re-raises again. As i had been sat playing with this guy for a while (2 hours) and this was the the first time id seen him re-re-raise preflop. Infact id seen him min-raise preflop with AA previously, so i thought either AA or QQ (KK but highly unlikely). When i see the flop, im behind to both of these hence i folded. I know its only £40 quid or whatever but theres been a few times lately where iv been thinking i should fold in this sort of situation but cant bring myself to do it. I just didnt think this bloke would make this play if he was on the flush draw, and i dont think he'd have re-raised my re-raise with AQ. If im honest i quite like his play because most people if they had AA, KK, JJ and mebbe AQ would prolly call here. Im not trying to toot my own trumpet or anything here, just wanted to gauge some opinions, if im honest 90% of the time id agree with most the crowd and call here. I guess it boils down to what id previously seen from the bloke. Good job i hadnt just sat down :) Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: thetank on February 19, 2006, 12:16:56 AM Well, with the extra information you had.....
As i had been sat playing with this guy for a while (2 hours) and this was the the first time id seen him re-re-raise preflop. Infact id seen him min-raise preflop with AA previously .....that you chose not to share with us originally ;yellowcard; , it looks like not a bad fold. Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: RyG on February 19, 2006, 12:55:07 AM indeed,it was posted rather hastily
Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: Sunday8pm on February 20, 2006, 04:11:46 AM re raise pre flop... make it a decent sized raise.
if he has AA you have no option but to pay him off and reload IMO Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: Junior Senior on February 20, 2006, 04:55:06 PM CALL all day long - are you sure he didn't doctor the hand history? - i would be surprised if he has QQ here.
Title: Re: Easy Laydown?? Post by: Pombo on February 20, 2006, 05:27:24 PM I'm thinking maybe he did have QQ but is not a very experienced player. You mentioned he min-raised AA and here he's saying he min re-raised with Q's......add to that to the all-in on the flop......a better/more experienced player would not have played the flop that way with this hand.
Anyway...I getting my chips in with his there. (Add me to those who are also re-raising pre-flop) |