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Title: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: Doc Bok on February 18, 2006, 06:53:29 PM There has been a lot of talk on here about rebuy v freezouts,in the upcoming manchester tournament ALL comps are freezeout.
What do you think, is this a good idea? Would you prefer to see a rebuy event? I personally prefer freezeouts,but at my local casino i am in a minority of one!! Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: thetank on February 18, 2006, 06:57:41 PM Re-buy, more dosh to win. Value
.....I do like a freezeout. Take someones chips and send them packing right from the off. I also like a shootout, you know where you are, win your table to get in the money. I guess I just love poker :D Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: Nem on February 18, 2006, 07:15:54 PM Quote from: thetank link=topic=7252.msg153741#msg153741 d I guess I just love poker :D ;iagree; ;)Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: Doc Bok on February 18, 2006, 07:26:38 PM I agree tank forgot about shootouts,a true poker test, full table,shorthanded and heads up,then start again.
Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: madasahatstand on February 18, 2006, 09:13:33 PM excuse my ignorance but whats a shootout?
Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: feedthegoat on February 18, 2006, 09:41:28 PM In a shootout you play your full table down to 1 winner and he advances with the winner of all the other tables in the comp.
Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: GlasgowBandit on February 19, 2006, 12:33:30 AM For me it has to be Freezeout. But it has to be at a level where you are going to have some decent prize money. I don't think a £20 freezeout is worthwhile with 20 players.
But if you have a £30 freezeout with say 30 - 50 players then its a good comp. I think the key is getting the balance. If its a re-buy event I think the best way to do it is limit to one re-buy and or and optional add on. When I am goiing to play, I like too know what my worse case scenario is. Its easy to say I'm playing a re-buy event and I am only going to buy in X ammount of times, but if you happen to be at a table with a fruit n' nut and you bust out 2/3 times when you have played the best poker and made the correct moved but outdrawn it becomes more difficult IMO to walk away. Well for me it does anyway, I have a personality that makes me more determined to win - or is that going on tilt and becoming rash and its too the detriment of my game. If I am playing a £100 - £300 freezeout, I expect the players to be of a better quality I expect the poker to be of a better quality and I think many of the idiots feel excluded from this sort of game. I'm tired, I'm up for work in a few hrs and I am starting to rant! Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: The Rivercard on February 19, 2006, 03:51:34 PM For me it has to be Freezeout. But it has to be at a level where you are going to have some decent prize money. I don't think a £20 freezeout is worthwhile with 20 players. But if you have a £30 freezeout with say 30 - 50 players then its a good comp. I think the key is getting the balance. If its a re-buy event I think the best way to do it is limit to one re-buy and or and optional add on. When I am goiing to play, I like too know what my worse case scenario is. Its easy to say I'm playing a re-buy event and I am only going to buy in X ammount of times, but if you happen to be at a table with a fruit n' nut and you bust out 2/3 times when you have played the best poker and made the correct moved but outdrawn it becomes more difficult IMO to walk away. Well for me it does anyway, I have a personality that makes me more determined to win - or is that going on tilt and becoming rash and its too the detriment of my game. If I am playing a £100 - £300 freezeout, I expect the players to be of a better quality I expect the poker to be of a better quality and I think many of the idiots feel excluded from this sort of game. I'm tired, I'm up for work in a few hrs and I am starting to rant! Your not ranting .....I think you should expect a higher quality of player at £1-300. I hope thats the case and if we can get 4-500 players for this event the prize money will be over £100,000 so it will be a event worth winning ....Freezeout it is then :cheers: Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: mikee_j on February 19, 2006, 04:59:50 PM freezeouts all the time! not a big fan of re-buy tourneys which is a shame cos thats all my local casino play! i believe theres a lot more skill to win a freezeout tourney than a rebuy. rebuys are ok for a simple home game but i definately prefer freezeouts!
Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: Royal Flush on February 19, 2006, 10:20:25 PM i believe theres a lot more skill to win a freezeout tourney than a rebuy. Can you explain more plz! Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: mikee_j on February 19, 2006, 11:09:16 PM just for the simple fact that you only get one chance! if i go to a £10 or £20 rebuy tourney with £100 in my wallet i know i can loosen up and play more hands etc.. and if i go out i simply rebuy. yes it is a different strategy and needs to be played well but i believe that wining a freezeout requires more skill. i like the little extra pressure put on you when you have to make calls with your whole stack!
i think it was mentioned earlier, rebuys are very lucrative because of the larger prize pools created but i prefer freezeouts! Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: thetank on February 20, 2006, 12:18:28 AM One could argue that all rebuy tournaments contain a freezeout element, requiring all the skills you'd need in a regular freezeout tournament to come out on top. In addition to this, rebuy tournaments contain the added dimension of stack building during the rebuy period that requires an additional component of competence in your game.
I wouldn't argue that.......... but I guess I just did. Never mind, typed it now. Show one, show all. :D Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: Royal Flush on February 20, 2006, 12:24:26 AM One could argue that all rebuy tournaments contain a freezeout element, requiring all the skills you'd need in a regular freezeout tournament to come out on top. In addition to this, rebuy tournaments contain the added dimension of stack building during the rebuy period that requires an additional component of competence in your game. Exactly, and there are more chips in play, thus resulting in a longer game. Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 20, 2006, 12:30:45 AM I use to have problems with rebuy games. I don't now, because I associated them too much with the poor starting stack/blind levels you often find at casinos. I've played a lot of the sattelites at Walsall for next week - without success (lots of final tables but no seats). But I've been sparing in my rebuys and often started with the shortest stack and still made the final table.
P.S More Omaha tournaments if you can Dani! Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: thetank on February 20, 2006, 12:31:55 AM However, one might also argue that freezeout tournaments involve all competitors being deep stacked with small blinds for a period at the beginning. Deep stacked poker requiring more skill.
;chieften; doesn't really care either way. It's like the argument of pot limit vs no limit and which requires more skill. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. Did I say everyone is right? Scratch that, I meant everyone who agrees with me is right. Title: Re: Rebuy or Freezeout? Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 20, 2006, 12:34:28 AM However, one might also argue that freezeout tournaments involve all competitors being deep stacked with small blinds for a period at the beginning. Deep stacked poker requiring more skill. ;iagree;;chieften; doesn't really care either way. It's like the argument of pot limit vs no limit. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. Did I say everyone is right? Scratch that, I meant everyone who agrees with me is right. :D |