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Title: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: BigTomatoes on February 24, 2006, 01:08:53 AM ------HAND 14------
Game #1653448793: Hold'em NL (10/20) - 2006/02/23 - 20:36:16 (BST) Table "Special £1500 GTD 1991954 - 12" Seat 6 is the button. Seat 2: cronin23 (1170 in chips) Seat 3: ballybob (3710 in chips) Seat 4: Coco24 (1610 in chips) Seat 5: BigTomato (1400 in chips) Seat 6: Madh0use (1470 in chips) Seat 7: tislis (1480 in chips) Seat 8: adam01 (1160 in chips) Seat 9: ziofrank (1480 in chips) Seat 10: Madmat (1520 in chips) tislis: posts small blind 10 adam01: posts big blind 20 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to BigTomato [ Qs Qh] ziofrank: folds Madmat: raises to 40 cronin23: folds ballybob: folds Coco24: folds BigTomato: raises to 150 Madh0use: folds tislis: folds adam01: folds Madmat: raises to 1520 and is all-in BigTomato: folds Returned uncalled bets 1,370 to Madmat Madmat: doesn't show hand Madmat collects 330 from Main pot -------------------------------------------------------------- This was only the 5th hand in a 20 pound MTT i entered. Basically Id like to know your opion on whether this was the correct move to fold. At the time I didn't have any info on the player and his minimum raise pre-flop looked fishy to me so when he put the all - in re-raise over the top of my raise i felt he must have had AA or KK even if he had AK i didnt want to risk my full tourney on a coin flip. Any advice would be good. Cheers Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: TightEnd on February 24, 2006, 01:13:54 AM If £20 is small beer to you I lump it in and try for the double up
It feels a lot more like AK than a KK/AA bet IMHO at the £20 level players can make this move with a far wider range of hands than the two you fear, AA/KK and the one you would rather not see but would accept AK. You can't be criticised for the laydown, but I think I gamble here without allowing for circumstances like bankroll, how often you can play, importance of tournament to you etc. Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 24, 2006, 01:23:42 AM Personally, I'd call. I don't go looking for a coinflip situation early on, but if I have to, I'd rather gamble with some of the possibly lesser skilled players and grab their chips now rather than try and take it off the better players later. If you're confident in your own game and your ability to outplay other players later on, then there is certainly nothing wrong with folding here.
Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: Gilbern74 on February 24, 2006, 02:23:54 AM I've seen lots of players doing this all-in move on level 1 blinds. Like betting 1,500 for, what, 60 to 100 chips...? It's a lame move for me. and worth a call with any decent pair. If I have a mid pair upwards, I nearly always call in a £$€20 or below tourney at that stage unless I've seen more of the opponent to stop me. If I'm out I'm out. If not, double up. Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: BigTomatoes on February 24, 2006, 02:30:35 AM yeah the more i thought about it aferwards i thought i should call but i felt he was strong.
didnt stop my AK getting beat with A8 a few hands later though. Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: scottm on February 24, 2006, 02:59:56 AM I agree with Homer and Gilbern here, I would've called, but then again that is one the hands that i would find great difficulty in laying down pre-flop anyway :)
Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: BigTomatoes on February 24, 2006, 03:48:04 AM i recognise that badge scott. how you doing. wha happened to the home game. and are you going to the airdrie game? 8)
Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: scottm on February 24, 2006, 04:19:14 AM Alright sir, not enough bodies for the game ::) but I'll see you on Monday though ( if your going that is :) )
Title: Re: Laying down QQ in MTT Post by: BigTomatoes on February 24, 2006, 04:32:50 AM i had my name down but im night shift so i couldnt do anything so ill see you on monday.
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