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I was in a live cash game .50 /1 and we are four handed, I have been out playing the guys with stacks and managing to build my own stack, I was then told that I was too aggressive for the game and its no fun playing against me.

The manager was pulled over who aggreed with the other punters that I was spoiling the game.

Here is an example of me spoiling the game.

my hand  2d 3c

flop  Ahrt Kd Qh

I lead out and bet £15 after a pre flop raise of £5

I get 2 callers and the turn is  3h

I bet again £45

and both guys fold, one with a  Ks and one with a  Qs.

I say good fold and show my  2d 3c showing that they just got owned!!

To me this is poker, I out played theyse guys when the board was scary, how can any poker room manager aggree with these punters???

Please tell me this is a joke post.

If it's not a joke, then you were playing in joke establishment.

billy, where were you playing?

this has got to be a whined-up, surely?

cant possibly happen?

Thats poker, if they don't like it they can lump it... grrrr!

Lump their chips in the middle perhaps.

Where was this newmanseye? Wabash?

I would be begging you to stay at the table.

As long as you were getting it quietly, i.e no rub downs I can't see what you did wrong. Sounds like they need to develop a sense of humour?

It saddens me to say this happened at Cincins, This is no joke,  Even after some sleep I am still annoyed.

I happen to play a good loose aggressive game short handed, Now if these guys just had to call to  catch me, I made it expensive so they did'nt call.

what made things worse was I flopped the nuts twice after this happened and because of the complaints and pressure from management I allowed myself to be out drawn, only to be told I was not paying anyone off for their hands!!!!!!!

I understand that Cincins is is going through a period of change, I just hope this sort of behaviour does not continue.

i hope you are still at the wind up m8.

if not then im dissapointed, surely we all have the right to play the way we see fit. otherwise we will all just be going through the motions
and the best hand will always win. we may as well deal face up!!

as long as there were no excessive rub downs i really dont see the problem.

maybe the other players tcould post there point of view.

To be fair the other 2 blokes with stacks were mates and they were looking for a "friendly game". I was not rubbing anyone down, I just wanted to make some money. I managed to bust the fourth guy at the table.

I understand that the management wanted to close the table as a three handed game will not rake very much, however thats no excuse to chnge the rules.

At one point the management suggested that it go from a 0.5 / 1 game to £5 before the flop just to get the rake going.

Dont get me wrong I dont mind paying the rake, I do mind the game jumping out of my range just to earn a rake.

If this is ALL that was going on - ie u were outplaying them.

Then its an absolute joke m8!

Mickey Mouse Club

Which one was it?

EDIT: Sorry just read thread properly, oops sorry DC but if thats what happened then i can't take it back, really bad call by manager??

Hmmm, Im amazed the other players wernt begging you to stay!
Bad decison by management, Any comments from Cins management?
As fro upping the Blinds just to build rake??? Jeez...

To be fair I could have played these boys blind, they players were nice guys and as the addage goes the nicer the guy the easier to part him from his money, What concerns me most was the management stand point and increasing the blinds at random.

I want the Cincinatti club to be successful, I enjoy the club, However this style of shoddy management does the club no favours at all.

well i think it sounds like a farce. its up to you how you play your cards. was the manager one of the other players mum or dad?  ;goodvevil; telling you to stop bullying the kids?

seriously though, i saw this kind of thing happen on stan james. i was watching a final table (MTT freeroll) and the players called the poker manager as 2 out of 4 left were saying they should not have been in the tourney as they did not have enough raked hands.  arguments broke out and somehow the poker manager ended up telling one of the complaining players that he was not as good as the 2 who didnt have enough raked hands to play. you can imagine that all hell broke loose at this point. its not the managers job to tell players how good they are in comparison to others and its not their job to say that a player is spoiling the game. hard to beleieve isnt it?

mad

I don't play Live. But that sounds strange.

Nah ther ewas no relatonship mad.

Billy surley this is a total whined-up, after all they dont play 0.50 / 1 cash games in cincins.

They dont have 50p cash chips!

True dave they dont, the game is £1 /£1 which is effectively the same as a .5 / £1 game.

the only reason its £1 / £1 is because they dont have .5 chips.  just to clear that up.

Again I stress I would not wind anyone up about this, I appreciate its possibly the first negative thing posted about Cincins but I had to get it off my chest. It really had left me with a bitter taste.

Agression = Pot building = More rake??????????????

Did you misunderstand management perhaps? Were they in actual fact saying that you were too mouthy for the game and to keep yer big gob shut?  :D

By criticizing your aggression, were they perhaps referring to your demeanour rather than your betting actions?

Name and shame time I think....and give those invovled in the decision a chance to defend their actions....

Nah, it was nothing to do with my usual table banter, It was more to do with me pushing people out of pots with bets, another example was I knew a guy was drawing and my guess was a straight, I made it £60 to draw for it as I had Pocket Queens, He folded and I took the pot down. he asked to rabbit hunt and I had no problem with this. He would have hit. ( great more action for me next time )

With a well placed bet I won a pot rather than lost the pot.

To be fair my table banter was at a minimum last night, I did'nt need to as I knew who was calling me and I knew how to get them to fold.

The criticizing was about my game play and my aggression, nothing else although if it was about speach play then I could understand, but it was not.

The 2 blokes were not blondites Laz however I think everyone knows who is managing Cincins at the moment.

To be fair to the 2 mates that were playing they were looking for an easy going game with little aggression involved, when they were in pots together they were betting £2 and £5 max. I believe the maximum pot when they were in a hand together was £15 and they were flashing cards and having a general laugh, which is probably what they were looking for, I tale the game seriously so I was playing properly. Thats probably where the friction came from.

its still not fair that you cant play your own game. did you know the people? are they regulars? i hope they are not playing in the blonde tourney. thats right they are not blondes. :blonde:

If this is the truth, then I am astonished as well.

As the only 'management' in the Cincinnati at the moment is Sid, I assume that you are referring to him. I will discuss this with him upon my return to Glasgow.

Quite frankly, I despair at the whole situation.

Dave I've pm'd my reply,

However In hindsight I have to appologise for the Negative post guys, Its almost as bad as a Bad beat post, I should have been more diplomatic and discreet rather than venting in the open forum, however I was not in a diplomatic mood at the time of the initial post.

I appreciate the opinions shared by all who posted and I hope I have not put anyone off playing at Cincinatti's.

Kinds regards

Billy

Thats what forums are for...  sounds at first glance that Cincins is DEFINITELY a place to be avoided...  A quick reply from them wouid do wonders to cool things a bit as it looks as if a very bad decision by the manager may have consequences further down the Line..   What a place to have the Blonde Bash.  Will the chip leaders get told to sit out because the other players are not enjoying themselves?

On the other hand one bad decision by an employee (who should perhaps be an ex employee) shouldn't effect anything if it gets explained quickly.     I reckon you should be asking for an apology

to be fair this has been the first dodgy decision made at Cincins, To err is human after all and in no way would I tell anyone to avoid the Cincinatti club, Its a great place, it has a great atmosphere, One bad decision does not mean its to be avoided.

I still reccomend Cincinatti's to everyone, I think my initial post has caused some undue negativity towards the club. Which I think i have to shoulder the blame for.

This one incident is not the yard stick to measure Cincinatti's by, I myself hope to enjoy plenty of future poker games at Cincins, Its like everything else in life, you need to get somethings wrong before you get it right.

Thats a wee bit OTT Cyber, wrong decisions are made regularly in all cardrooms/casinos, this seems to be an isolated incident in my experience at Cin Cins.

TBF the manager doesnt post on here so its unlikely you'll get an explanation from him but DC has said he'll look into it & he knows both parties involved.

Thats a wee bit OTT Cyber, wrong decisions are made regularly in all cardrooms/casinos, this seems to be an isolated incident in my experience at Cin Cins.


Your right mate, You go there and have the advantage of knowing the place and I have never played Live before so you have the experience to make a far more informed comment than I do..  The thing that gets me though is that its such a monumentally stupid decision, Its not a wrong call by a tournament director or someone setting a stupid structure. Its a HUGE blunder and an insult to what should be a valued customer..   Through this forum I know of the amount of work and sweat that has went into getting Cincins off the ground and its brilliant that Glasgow has such a place.  I hate to see peoples hard work going to waste and If it had happened to someone other than Newmanseye it might have lead to complaints to the Local council, papers,gaming commision and all sorts of crap could have been stirred up..  Bad management like that makes a very good case for clubs to be Licensed like casinoes so that patrons can have at least some sort of protection and I think thats the last thing thats needed..