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Title: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: Lucky Sevens on March 17, 2006, 12:33:43 AM
Any ideas on this hand guys...

------HAND 5------
Game #1904501293: Hold'em NL (2000/4000) - 2006/03/17 - 00:17:30 (BST)
Table "Tourney 2145640 - 1" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 2: Alcalmak (52540.03 in chips)
Seat 3: Sim121235 (130628.64 in chips)
Seat 4: RussQPR (88585.72 in chips)
Seat 5: 1catfunt (86733.12 in chips)
Seat 6: Hionly (158567.07 in chips)
Seat 7: Ransdam1 (23910 in chips)
Seat 9: __eddie__ (129085.72 in chips)
Seat 10: Karma_ace (24449.70 in chips)
Sim121235: posts the ante 500
RussQPR: posts the ante 500
1catfunt: posts the ante 500
Hionly: posts the ante 500
Ransdam1: posts the ante 500
__eddie__: posts the ante 500
Karma_ace: posts the ante 500
Alcalmak: posts the ante 500
Sim121235: posts small blind 2000
RussQPR: posts big blind 4000
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to RussQPR [7s Qs]
1catfunt: folds
Hionly: folds
Ransdam1: folds
__eddie__: folds
Karma_ace: folds
Alcalmak: folds
Sim121235: raises to 8000
RussQPR: calls 4000
----- FLOP ----- [5h 2s 7d]
Sim121235: bets 4000
RussQPR: raises to 16000
Sim121235: calls 12000
----- TURN ----- [5h 2s 7d][8s]
Sim121235: checks
RussQPR: bets 12000
Sim121235: calls 12000
----- RIVER ----- [5h 2s 7d 8s][3s]
Sim121235: bets 94128.64 and is all-in
RussQPR: is all-in 52085.72
Returned uncalled bets 42,042.92 to Sim121235
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Sim121235: shows [Ks Js] (A Flush, King high)
RussQPR: shows [7s Qs] (A Flush, Queen high)
Sim121235 collects 180171.44 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 180171.44 Main pot 180171.44 Rake 0
Board [5h 2s 7d 8s 3s]

 
Bit deflated going out so early in a final table. I don't get to many but was playing confidently and was hoping to go all the way  in this one.

Should I have raised more on the flop? I was pretty certain I was ahead but would have liked to have taken the pot there. Maybe a bigger bet on the turn?

I didn't know what to think when he went all in on the river but called straight away in the heat of the moment sort of thing never thinking whether he had a flush that could beat mine

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers, Russ


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 17, 2006, 01:03:34 AM
You got done out by a fish, nothing more. If he's played like that throughout the tournament, he's got there purely on luck and you won't see him that often there. I'd play the hand the same as you and just be bemused that he'd got this far.


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: TightEnd on March 17, 2006, 11:36:31 AM
why are you playing this to a raise pre flop anyway?

that said his call of your raise on the flop is pretty fishy....what did you put him on at this point? an overpair? if so whay are you betting the turn?

on the turn he is not going to be passing

and the river is just plain unlucky


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: Lucky Sevens on March 17, 2006, 11:55:10 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys.

I figured that his raise was just a typical steal of my BB and if I hit on the flop then hopefully I could take it down. After he called my raise on the flop I didn't know what to think and with second pair and a flush draw on the turn I thought I was in a good position.


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: Gilbern74 on March 17, 2006, 01:07:05 PM

that said his call of your raise on the flop is pretty fishy....what did you put him on at this point? an overpair? if so whay are you betting the turn?


 ;iagree;

With his call on your raise after the flop, you've got to put him on something here.
You the had the chance of a free card after the turn, but chose to raise and got called again. Regardless of what he was playing, you should have been bothered about this.

I would have laid down after his pre-flop raise. Q7s just isn't worth it for me, though it may be for some others.

I always tend to think that if I take a bad hit like that then it is just deserts for playing poor pocket cards. Just asking for trouble.


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: Lucky Sevens on March 17, 2006, 01:21:57 PM
I guess it was my own fault for trying to defend my BB too much, especially with it only being a minimum raise from one of the larger stacks. I honestly didn't put him on a hand which is something I need to improve on (relatively new to playing poker) but after his minimum bet on the flop I was surprised he called my raise. After that I guess my lack of experience showed...


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: Bongo on March 17, 2006, 02:15:51 PM
It's a minimum raise from the SB, you're getting 4-1 and have position on the guy!

How can you not play?


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 17, 2006, 04:27:52 PM
It's a minimum raise from the SB, you're getting 4-1 and have position on the guy!

How can you not play?

I totally agree. Min-raising in a £2 MTT is usually more the sign of a marginal hand than strength.


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: Nem on March 17, 2006, 05:22:52 PM
Push turn


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: Sunday8pm on March 20, 2006, 01:43:26 AM
why are you playing this to a raise pre flop anyway?

that said his call of your raise on the flop is pretty fishy....what did you put him on at this point? an overpair? if so whay are you betting the turn?

on the turn he is not going to be passing

and the river is just plain unlucky

tighty, if someone min raises when you are heads up in the blinds its an instant call with Q7, you are getting over 4/1 with the antes in the middle too.

as for the hand itself. if you are raising to 16k on the flop (which is a good raise btw) you need to be betting 20k+ on the turn as once he calls your bet on the flop its very likely hes drawing to overcards only. price him out of it. As it stands he made a flush draw on the turn and in a £2 multi i doubt he passes to any bet!

ul, wp bring on the next game


Title: Re: Final Table Crypto £2 MTT
Post by: The Baron on March 20, 2006, 01:46:25 AM
Bet the flop harder and go huge on the turn. Unlucky. :)