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I was playing on Paradise Poker today for the first time in a while. Dont normally play on that site but like a
wee change now and again. Decided i would play the $20 sng tables and would pickup some quick and easy
cash. :D
 Now picture the seen, playing 3 tables at once. All started within 30 seconds of each other which
was surprising how quick they filled up. Feeling pretty good about myself as i'm down to final four on all tables. Only need to knock one player out and i'm in the money. Then it happens all in the space of 30
seconds. I find myself in the position of being all in on 3 tables at once.

Table 1: My  Ad Ac vs  Kd 8h


Flop:  Aspades Ks 8c  Turn  8d  River  8s


Table 2: My  Kc Kd vs Qh Js


Flop:   4d Ks 9s  Turn  3s  River  Ts


Table 3: My  Aspades Qs vs  9d 8s


Flop:  Qc 2d 6h  Turn  5d  River    7h

Thats it. Sucked out the 3 of them. Is it me? Can anyone see a pattern here? Are online sites rigged? I'm
i getting paranoid like some of these other idiots? Will i just finish slitting my other wrist to make the pair?
Somebody please tell me that it was just bad luck and nothing else.

Slipperyfish  ;fish;

That sucks big time.
 :o

The poker gods can be cruel as well as kind ( ;pokergods;)

somedays I can't draw the right cards even if I have a pen & paper.

Very bad luck indeed!       Especially as it will cost you £1.50 for the bad beat tin 

others will disagree im shore but no i dont think its bad luck i sometimes get the feeling if the software doesnt want u to win or wants u out you are out its that simple .my reasoning behind this u ask well computers cannot genarate random no's its not possible its a program and programs are not random are they.
                im a computer geek bye the way if u no different prove it i chalange any of the poker sites to prove otherwise.
its like a fruit machine program and thats not random is it.but thats how i think it works, or must work.

I've just cracked the source code of the random card generator at Party and found this line - you could be right.

IF playerid='chaosicq' AND playerid.holecards='AA' AND opponent.holecards='74' THEN flop='A86' AND turn='2' AND river='5'

Fruit machines are not meant to be random though.

Besides which poker sites have very large sources of external entropy (ie players and their actions, response times, mouse movements etc) which they can use to generate random numbers.

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Mind your head Matt

You should have seen the final table at Hamilton.

Deck me face hit

Q-7 v K-K

flush on board. split pot

A-7 v K-J

stood up, even though the flop brought an open ended str8 draw

4-4 v 7-6 on 7 high flop.

runner runner flush

T-7 v A-K

rivered a str8

Q-7 v some more big cards

hit a Q

8-3 v 9-9

3-3 on flop

I don't think it was because the dealer liked me tho.

Sometimes you just get unlucky or lucky.

I can prove you don't have a speel cheeker

you missed when you took fruity69 out when she had AK and you had Q7 and you flopped a flush giving fruity a flush draw but no luck for the young lady

you also missed out the hand just before the final when you pushed all in with Ace high on a 9 6 6 board for bobby1 to call with his 3s and you to turn a 9

shhhhh

people will think I'm a fish  ;fish;

The way I see it, until you hold the absolute nuts, you can (and will) lose.

As for online poker sites not being entirely random, neither are real life games. Computers shuffle their virtual decks a whole lot more randomly than a casino dealer does.
As for whether the cards that are dealt are rigged or not, I'm of the belief that they ain't ... I can only think of two ways that a poker site could manipulate the cards to their advantage:

1) Deal out hands/flops/etc that give everyone monster hands, so everyone bets, so the rake is bigger.
2) Have players at the table who are working for the site, and deal them all the outs.

(1) is a semi-plausible conspiracy theory, but I don't think (2) is ... consider how much money a poker site makes every minute compared to how much they would make by stealing your $20 buyin every time and potentially losing a disgruntled customer.

If they wanted to maximise rake they'd want to have more split pots, they still take the rake but the money would stay in play for longer enabling them to rake it some more.

There's a huge article on this in April's PokerPlayer magazine.

In summary - why would any poker site risk it's whole (hugely profitable highly successful) business on software that is fixed or picks out individuals and follows them around giving them bad beats all the time.

That's entirely correct. It is far too easy for poker rooms to make money by being fair for any of them to jeopadise it by going to the bother of tweaking things for or against certain players whilst not tweaking it too much so that it is obvious.

Hi guys,

Just back from the hospital. They patched me up, bandaged the wrists and i'm feeling a bit better now. Thats probably the drugs though.

Took all your comments on board but how about this. The computer is programmed in a way that no matter how good or bad a player is, he/she will have some kind of success at the tables. It would be the only way sites could keep the bad players playing. And of course, its the better players(blondes of course) :respect: that are suffering like we all do everyday with suckouts. Is it more acceptable to take a bad beat in a live game.

Slipperyfish ;fish;

No, that's just the nature of the game.

Precisely - many people seem to think that the probablity of AA winning should be 100%...

I tend to think along the lines that many sites that use RNG software are aware of glitches in the software that make the chances of flushes and straight all the more probable.

We could argue this till the cows come home but it doesn't make much difference wether we think he may be being cheated or not we still continue to play on the net hence why many of the big companies are still making profit.

To answer another question, I personally find it more acceptable to suffer a bad beat in a live game.  Simply because I can se everything that is happening in front of me.

when anyone plays the its rigged card..
I always ask what they re current roi % is.

Usually get the reply whats roi?

Btw i am a metaphyisical geek, and there is no such thing as random full stop.

anyone prove that wrong lol

I think we all understand what he was saying. No need to run anyone off, lets not go down this road again please.

Unlucky with those hands you ran into, But bad beats will happen, it’s a fact. X that with playing 10 tables at a time and you will see them more often than those of us playing one table.

Keep your chin up ;)

It's straights and flushs are more probable then the simple solution would be to play more hands that can make a straight or a flush and draw to them more often.

Rigged so aces always get cracked? Just throw them away preflop...

sorry guys i dont think i explained enough first of all im not saying  that the poker sites are manipulating things to there advantage after all they get a rake right so they earn annyway.
2nd of all when i said computers cannot genarate random no's ie cards i ment it no amount of programing is going to solve that one ie adding to the program a player waiting 10 seconds as somebody mentions earlyer its just not possible(i dont see the matrix happening just yet computers are not human)god its a program !! i beleive like i said before and the easyest way to explain it was to( compare) it to a fruit machine program in the way the software program works (but designed to evenly spred winnings over a period of time)
ie u put 50 in get nothing out come back 2 weeks later and put 50 in u get 100 out (all in all its a ballance over time, what that time frame is well i dont know( but if u play a fruit machine badly u will lose all the time ) 8)

It's true that a computer itself cannot create true random numbers but that doesn't mean you can't supply the computer with random numbers. One method of doing this would be to measure response times or another source - radioactive decay, atmospheric noise etc.

so basically the online game fixed so that in the long run it rewards the good players and punishes the bad players...............

nothing like a live game then......

well yes you are right but i suppose it serves its purpose to good affect but it does have flaws ie a typical example someone has been losing for ages u have say 


                                           Qh   Qs and they have say   9d 6d
   flop comes  Qc 8d 5d turn card  8c     and lets say u r all in and the river comes  7d 
   i only give this as an example that the other player has 1 out and makes it and i think he makes as the software is trying to even itself out because hes been losing for so long id like to no what the most hands anny one has ever one sucsession or in an hour say it would be nice to get an average .also has annyone been getting nothing atall but one sevral hands through skill then got the good hands afterword and lost?

I wonder if they would employ me, I can make an atmospheric noise that smells like radioactive decay