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Title: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: The Baron on March 24, 2006, 01:16:21 AM
My vote is going to 9 darter as there's only ever been one in a World Championships back in 1984.

147's happen every 3 or 4 years in the snooker World Championships.

Whaddaya reckon?


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: londonpokergirl on March 24, 2006, 01:31:01 AM
9 darter by far,  they are both skillful sports, but if you haven't got a steady hand and good eye, you are bug*****d

and plus darts is fantastic to play :)


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: TightEnd on March 24, 2006, 01:32:02 AM
9 darters are much rarer


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: bobby1 on March 24, 2006, 02:08:27 AM
arrers every time


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: suzanne on March 24, 2006, 04:20:25 AM
My claim to fame and I will never forget the night.

Local league darts night at the Broughton Arms in Edinburgh about 20 years ago.

Its a knockout and I have played like I have never played before....Im on FIRE

Gets down to the final and its just me and Jimmy!!!

To put you in the picture Jimmy (i think his surname was Riddell) is like the George Best of darts in Edinburgh, he does all these trick shots to impress the Ladies...you know the kinda thing...bouncing darts of his beer gut to hit the bull etc... but hes basically a piss artist who didnt make it.

I KNEW he was worried that I was gonna beat him and he tried to put me off with his ....back to the board throwing over the shoulder shots etc

My first 3 dart 57, 57, 57

Hahahaha women luck and all that he said.......go for the 20 like a real darts player.....he hit a ton.

My next 3 darts 57, 57 ,57.........and yes he hit another ton

Hes WELL peeved off by now, so the friendly...give it up now ur shite banter is going on...meanwhile other team members are placing bets on me as odds on favorite  :D

Hes well rattled...my first dart 57...went for treble 18 and HIT....the pub is in a complete uproar by now with EVERYONE watching the game..........I btw am shaking like a leaf.........all i needed to do was hit a 16 to be on a double.........what happened......COMPLETELY MISSED THE FCKIN BOARD

Mr Riddell of course made the most off this by attempting to bring me down in front of the booing crowds  :D and went on to hit yet another ton.

With a positive "I am gonna win this" attitude I made sure I was in the right place on the oakey and took my time. First dart I aimed at the double and just skimmed it on the inside..........second dart.........SMACK BANG IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DOUBLE 16

The pub went MENTAL and Mr Riddells long record of never having being beaten was crushed........bless him

So my claim to fame is a 11 dart check out

PS voted darts


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: thetank on March 24, 2006, 08:31:32 AM
Personally, I think a 147 is more difficult, it involves tactical desicions aswell as pin-point technical accuracy over a greater number of shots.
Holding your bottle on the last 20 shots is tougher than holding it over the last 3 darts.

That their have been more examples of 147's could be testament the fact that snooker players try harder. The frequency of each occurring can not be used to judge its prestige.

Darts is still a minority sport, snooker is everywhere. Most top snooker pros are household names. Even the ones that haven't picked up a cue in 10 years.

Your question is which is more prestigious, I say snooker every time. Most people in the country don't know what a 9-dart checkout is.


 ;scarymoment; ;scarymoment;


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: patman on March 24, 2006, 08:48:48 AM
i think the 147 me self. When you hit a 9 darter you know where it is to go and that never changes . darts players, good ones are like machines.

the permutations of shots you may have to take to hit a 147 and the variance of chalkdust , kicks , wonky pockets makes it more difficult.

so for me personally 147...although i dare say i will never get iether so both get my total respect


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Graham C on March 24, 2006, 09:01:36 AM
I'd rather see a 9 darter.  If I have to wait for a 147 in snooker - I'm generally asleep by the completion.  At least with the arrows, I'm usually attached to a pint glass :D


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: ACE2M on March 24, 2006, 09:53:41 AM
You can fluke a shot in a 147, in a 9 darter every dart has to be perfect.

Both of them amaze me but just for the perfection i think a 9 darter for me.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: KeithyB on March 24, 2006, 10:11:39 AM
Voted for the 9 darter here.

Both are tremendously skillful but the 9 darter is rarer and as such causes more "sensation" within it's own sport.   In snooker another 147 is highly respected but no longer has that "wow" factor anymore.

Also I think that whilst the difficulty of a 9 darter is always the same, it is possible to have a "straightforward" 147 clearance where the balls are favourably placed meaning no difficult pots are required along the way.  Still a worthy feat but one any top snooker pro would reasonably expect to convert if faced with the balls laid out nicely like this.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: steeley68 on March 24, 2006, 10:17:48 AM
I am piss poor at darts - no wait... I am also piss poor at snooker.  :dontask:Soooo, I would prefer a pint, please. Is that one of the options?

 :cheers: :ironside:


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: KeithyB on March 24, 2006, 10:18:07 AM
To put you in the picture Jimmy (i think his surname was Riddell) is like the George Best of darts in Edinburgh, he does all these trick shots to impress the Ladies...you know the kinda thing...bouncing darts of his beer gut to hit the bull etc... but hes basically a piss artist who didnt make it.



Well done on the 11 darter Suzanne but no need to explain to me who this gent is.

As a kid I remember my mum often asking me if I wanted to take a "Jimmy Riddell"    rotflmfao


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: steeley68 on March 24, 2006, 10:20:45 AM
 :D :D :D

I also have memories of Jimmy. Every time my mother mentioned his name she would laugh. Did he used to be a comedian, then?


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: GlasgowBandit on March 24, 2006, 10:57:43 AM
I voted for a 9 darter, based on the fact that only 2 players have done it on Live TV.

I reckon its harder to construct a 9 darter than it is to complie a maximum 147 in snooker.  there is far greater room for error at a snooker table than there is at the ockey.

I would personally prefer to clinch a 147 though.

How many Dart players take beetablockers though? :D


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Nem on March 24, 2006, 11:31:50 AM
My vote is going to 9 darter as there's only ever been one in a World Championships back in 1984.

147's happen every 3 or 4 years in the snooker World Championships.

Whaddaya reckon?

170 check out is more prestigious than both of them.

How much £ does Barneveld get for a 9 dart finish?


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: thetank on March 24, 2006, 12:05:53 PM
The question is which is most prestigious.

A perfect 100 points in tiddily-winks is more difficult than the lot of them, but no-one would care if anyone ever managed it.

Snookers greater popularity compared to darts should be taken into account.



Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Cybertim on March 24, 2006, 12:28:41 PM
Defiinitely the 147 for me..basing it on a daft concept but I reckon its sound

I am pretty hopeless at both snooker and darts but am always up for a game.  I CAN however now and again hit 180 at darts (a third of the way there) but would not have a hope of a Fifty break in snooker (again a third of the way there)..   


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: ifm on March 24, 2006, 01:51:47 PM
I can't believe people have actually voted for snooker :D

1. hand/eye coordination is required at the VERY highest level in darts, much less so in snooker.
2. The frequency of 147's is so high compared to 9 darters.
3. You cannot fluke a 9 darter!
4. the pressure involved in 9 darters is much higher as you still need to win the leg (snooker you have already won the frame with 20 odd balls to go)


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: matt674 on March 24, 2006, 01:54:55 PM

2. The frequency of 147's is so high compared to 9 darters.


Perhaps that is because snooker players are more professionally well trained athletes!!  :D

Personally my vote goes to scoring 300 in ten pin bowling but as i dont play any of two choices given!!

I've played monkey pool - but thats a bit different :)


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: The Baron on March 24, 2006, 03:27:58 PM
My vote is going to 9 darter as there's only ever been one in a World Championships back in 1984.

147's happen every 3 or 4 years in the snooker World Championships.

Whaddaya reckon?

170 check out is more prestigious than both of them.

How much £ does Barneveld get for a 9 dart finish?

3 perfect darts vs 9??


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Nem on March 24, 2006, 03:32:25 PM
It hardly ever happens... and the players get more money for completing a 170 check out


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Rod Paradise on March 24, 2006, 03:37:01 PM

2. The frequency of 147's is so high compared to 9 darters.


Perhaps that is because snooker players are more professionally well trained athletes!!  :D

Personally my vote goes to scoring 300 in ten pin bowling but as i dont play any of two choices given!!

I've played monkey pool - but thats a bit different :)
Good shout on the 300 Matt. No mistakes/flukes (which can be part of a 147) - but a higher level of consistency than the darts - 11 seperate trips to the line as opposed to 3 for the 9 darter.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: matt674 on March 24, 2006, 03:43:35 PM
12 ;)

used to play crown green bowls but to be honest never really ten pin bowled that much


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: The Baron on March 24, 2006, 03:46:01 PM
It hardly ever happens... and the players get more money for completing a 170 check out

I've seen a few 170 checkouts though.

Wayne Mardle this year for one. Never seen a 9 darter.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Rod Paradise on March 24, 2006, 03:46:14 PM
12 ;)

used to play crown green bowls but to be honest never really ten pin bowled that much

10 actually (bugger - I shouldn't have got it wrong) - BTW I consider 3 shots (like in darts) as 1 visit....- you get the 2 bonus balls at the 10th visit if you hit the strike.

Used to play a lot against my Dad - best score 232 with a 7-bagger.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: matt674 on March 24, 2006, 04:05:33 PM
12 shots 10 visits - same difference ;)

cant ever remember my highest score - remember once getting 3 strikes in a row and being ridiculed by everyone i was with because the word "TURKEY" appeared across my card in big capital letters.

Oh the shame for a monkey!! :(


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Rod Paradise on March 24, 2006, 04:06:41 PM
12 shots 10 visits - same difference ;)

cant ever remember my highest score - remember once getting 3 strikes in a row and being ridiculed by everyone i was with because the word "TURKEY" appeared across my card in big capital letters.

Oh the shame for a monkey!! :(

Take no ridicule - a Turkey takes a fair bit of skill. (were you not scared you'd drop a ball on your tail?)


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: matt674 on March 24, 2006, 04:09:34 PM
not really because when i bend over my tail sticks over to the left - see, no problem for a right handed monkey!!

(http://www.pimpboard.com/images/smilies/shakin.gif)


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: matt674 on March 24, 2006, 04:10:37 PM
not really because when i bend over my tail sticks over to the left - see, no problem for a right handed monkey!!

(http://www.pimpboard.com/images/smilies/shakin.gif)

note - i'm even wearing my bowling shoes in this picture ;)


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Rod Paradise on March 24, 2006, 04:15:28 PM
not really because when i bend over my tail sticks over to the left - see, no problem for a right handed monkey!!

(http://www.pimpboard.com/images/smilies/shakin.gif)

note - i'm even wearing my bowling shoes in this picture ;)
rotflmfao


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Jinky04 on March 24, 2006, 04:29:03 PM

A perfect 100 points in tiddily-winks is more difficult than the lot of them, but no-one would care if anyone ever managed it.


Without a doubt the game of the future. Played with tank and poppet at BB2, found it strangely compelling....all we need is a Late Night Tiddlywinks on TV to start the boom

Oh yeh, the question, a 147 does it for me.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Yogi-Bear on March 24, 2006, 05:05:27 PM
I can't believe you are all arguing over a couple of pub games that should have never been allowed on television.

HEHEHEHEHE

Yogi


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: stallyon on March 24, 2006, 07:27:12 PM
Next week, for the first time only on Sky Sports 1, 5s and 3s Domino World Championships


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Nem on March 24, 2006, 07:29:12 PM
Next week, for the first time only on Sky Sports 1, 5s and 3s Domino World Championships


Now that would be exhilarating, NOT!!!


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: bobby1 on March 24, 2006, 07:51:56 PM
There are many 147 breaks both in practice and in tournaments each year, didnt Willie Thorne retire having compiled 47 maximums in his playing and practice career?

a 9 darter takes more skill and precision.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Nem on March 24, 2006, 08:01:20 PM
There are many 147 breaks both in practice and in tournaments each year, didnt Willie Thorne retire having compiled 47 maximums in his playing and practice career?

a 9 darter takes more skill and precision.


Yes, but equally if you ask Phil Taylor how many 9 Darters he has thrown in practice I guess it would be pretty high.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: bobby1 on March 24, 2006, 08:03:58 PM
There are many 147 breaks both in practice and in tournaments each year, didnt Willie Thorne retire having compiled 47 maximums in his playing and practice career?

a 9 darter takes more skill and precision.


Yes, but equally if you ask Phil Taylor how many 9 Darters he has thrown in practice I guess it would be pretty high.

deffo, but I am pretty sure it wouldnt be 47, in snooker you can have many shots before the first pot that can enable a 147 to be slightly easier to compile, In darts you have to get it right on every shot.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Sark79 on March 24, 2006, 08:21:29 PM
I like the 147 basically because I prefer snooker as a sport.  As Tank said, it is alot harder to remain focussed for the time needed to compile one.

However, the 9 darter is also a great achievement. This requires perfect muscle memory, accuracy and nerve. ( exactly the same as snooker )

I think they are both equal, so I cant vote for a winner on this one.  ( I like sitting on the fence   :D )

Here is a question.. Are snooker and Darts games or sports?   I always argue they are sports in the same way I argue in defence of poker as a sport. In my opinion, poker, chess and backgammon aren't games. They are Mind Sports.  I know these are played at the annual Mind Sports Olympiad organised by TONY BUZAN.

Where did you get that monkey icon from, Matt    rotflmfao


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: The Baron on March 24, 2006, 08:47:02 PM
There are many 147 breaks both in practice and in tournaments each year, didnt Willie Thorne retire having compiled 47 maximums in his playing and practice career?

a 9 darter takes more skill and precision.


Yes, but equally if you ask Phil Taylor how many 9 Darters he has thrown in practice I guess it would be pretty high.

Good point.

Willie Thorne saying he's done 47 maximum's doesn't mean a lot to me.

John Higgins once claimed he'd only ever done 3 in his life.


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: stallyon on March 24, 2006, 10:01:59 PM
i saw one guy perform a 155 maximum break once...now that was truly remarkable


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Nem on March 24, 2006, 10:05:13 PM
i saw one guy perform a 155 maximum break once...now that was truly remarkable

Jamie Cope?


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: The Baron on March 24, 2006, 10:19:58 PM
i saw one guy perform a 155 maximum break once...now that was truly remarkable

Bothered! Tikay can do an 8 darter!


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Ironside on March 24, 2006, 11:31:01 PM
155 is truely impressive and very rare

infact you have more chance of meeting someone with the same DNA as you than you are to see a 155

tikay getting an 8 dart finish is like me beating him 5 - 0 HU run of the mill as he was only playing 101


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: ifm on March 25, 2006, 02:26:30 AM
Didn't Kirk Stevens have a 155?


Title: Re: Settle Another Argument...
Post by: Poppet7 on March 25, 2006, 04:15:23 AM

A perfect 100 points in tiddily-winks is more difficult than the lot of them, but no-one would care if anyone ever managed it.


Without a doubt the game of the future. Played with tank and poppet at BB2, found it strangely compelling....all we need is a Late Night Tiddlywinks on TV to start the boom

Oh yeh, the question, a 147 does it for me.

Yeah thats was fun! Best moment was tanks faced when he got his tiddlywink on the dealer button!