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Title: A late night chill out, then this Post by: TightEnd on April 08, 2006, 12:45:45 AM Just mucking around before bed on a few shorthanded $1/2 tables I faced this decision
My opponent (Camoranesi) who goes all-in is a poor player, he has reloaded and I have been chipping away at his next set of $ with some success having sat down at each table with $100 only. Third oppo has just sat down The session has been straightforward so far 2006-04-08 00:33:38 ** Descartes [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money - Vestein sitting in seat 1 with $530.87 [Sitting out] - vegasfrog sitting in seat 2 with $67.76 - Camoranesi sitting in seat 3 with $177.06 - TightEnd sitting in seat 4 with $285.95 - Inexorable sitting in seat 6 with $103.31 [Dealer] vegasfrog posted the small blind - $1.00 Camoranesi posted the big blind - $2.00 ** Dealing card to TightEnd: Ad Qh TightEnd raised - $6.00 Inexorable folded vegasfrog called - $6.00 Camoranesi called - $6.00 ** Dealing the flop: Ahrt 8h Jc vegasfrog bet - $10.00 Camoranesi called - $10.00 TightEnd raised - $40.00 vegasfrog called - $40.00 Camoranesi went all-in - $163.06 TightEnd ? It's routine to call the way I've played it right? Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: totalise on April 08, 2006, 01:49:20 AM pretty much. When bad players just call and then come over the top, its generally some hand that they think "ahh, fkk it" rather then anything else. Weak aces/lame flush/straight draws are more likely from him then a very well concealed set.
The problem is vegasfrog, but again, he has lead into the raiser, and just called a raise, stinks to high heaven of some filthy fd, and its what you are going to see here a high % of the time. Your equity is pretty good in this spot normally, and you can always suck out if you are behind heh. Oh, just saw that Vegas has almost zero $ behind, makes it even easier. You can even lose the main pot and get out of it in the side pot. If it does transpire that Camor has you beat, then he played it pretty damn well, and you should consider revising your process of coming to the conclusion that certain players are fish/bad players.. as in my experience, most poeple are very quick to give players labels, and quite a lot of the time, they are unjustifed. This is certainly not a dig, just something to consider. hth Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: Royal Flush on April 08, 2006, 07:58:11 AM Camoranesi is not a bad player, he has proved himself invalueable to Juve in the last 2-3 years!
Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: Nem on April 08, 2006, 08:04:05 AM Camoranesi is not a bad player, he has proved himself invalueable to Juve in the last 2-3 years! Apart for his sending off against the Gooners at Highbury a couple of weeks ago. His Queen Mother waiving to the Highbury crowd as he was being sent off was hilarious :D Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: AndrewT on April 10, 2006, 11:40:49 PM A call then a push once someone has reraised looks like a flush draw to me - KJ hearts?
Vegasfrog isn't folding, but you can lose to him and still make a profit on the pot. If you're up against AK and a set or two sets then suck it up, but I'd be so convinced I'm ahead of Cameronesi that it's all going in for me. Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: Triple X on April 11, 2006, 11:04:42 PM what happened??
Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: Ironside on April 11, 2006, 11:59:08 PM Camoranesi has played the hand exactly how i would a pair of 8s
Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: TightEnd on April 12, 2006, 05:20:22 PM This happened Triple X
Camoranesi went all-in - $163.06 TightEnd called - $173.06 vegasfrog went all-in - $22.76 ** Dealing the turn: 3s ** Dealing the river: Ac Camoranesi shows: Js 8s TightEnd shows: Ad Qh vegasfrog shows: Aspades 2d TightEnd wins $204.28 from the main pot TightEnd wins $424.88 from side pot 1 Camoranesi got too trappy IMHO flat calling then reraising on the flop, but another day I would have been reloading Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: Bongo on April 12, 2006, 05:38:08 PM You've raised and the flop has come A high, if you have an A (which is a likely holding) then you're likely to raise and then he can make his move (as he did) with a bigger pot, if you have nothing then you'll probably pass and he'll be heads up with (what looks like) a bad player.
Title: Re: A late night chill out, then this Post by: Swordpoker on April 18, 2006, 07:22:53 AM In tourney I might have called but not in a cash game. Even fishies can hit good cards.
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