Title: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Sark79 on April 11, 2006, 08:17:53 PM Has anyone read " Jonathan Livingston Seagull " by Richard Bach .
I read this as a kid and it is still one of my favorite books. I picked up an old copy today from my local PDSA. I read it in my hour lunch break. It is a fantastic story. I recommend it for anyone who hasn't read it. The story is happy, sad, thought inspiring, it has a feel good quality about it and it also shows us we can all achieve so much if we utilize our potential. Here is the Plot summary given by Wikipedia - The novel tells the story of Jonathan Livingston Seagull, a seagull who is seized by a passion for flight. He pushes himself, learning everything he can about flying, until finally his unwillingness to conform results in his expulsion from his clan. An outcast, he continues to learn, becomes increasingly pleased with his abilities and leads an idyllic life. One day, Jonathan is met by two seagulls, who take him to a “higher plane of existence”, where he meets other gulls who love to fly. He discovers that his sheer tenacity and desire to learn make him “a gull in a million”. Jonathan befriends the wisest gull in this new place, named Chiang, who takes him beyond his previous learning, teaching him how to move instantaneously to anywhere else in the universe. The secret, Chiang says, is to “begin by knowing that you have already arrived”. Not satisfied with his new life, Jonathan returns to Earth to find others like him, to bring them his learning and to spread his love for flight. His mission is successful, gathering around him others who have been outlawed for not conforming. Ultimately, one of his students, Fletcher Lynd Seagull, becomes a teacher in his own right and Jonathan leaves to continue his learning. In some ways, this section is as much a story of Fletcher’s realization as of Jonathan’s continued learning. Below, I have given a Link to an online version of the book. It is well worth giving a read. It is fairly short, so shouldn't take all that long to do. http://lib.ru/RBACH/seagullengl.txt Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Ironside on April 11, 2006, 08:22:54 PM takes me all my bits to read blondepoker in a lunch hour never mind a novell
when does the dvd come out so i can skim read Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Nem on April 11, 2006, 08:25:21 PM Have yoy read this book Sark? Fantastic Voyage: Live Long Enough to Live Forever by Ray Kurzweil and Terry Grossman.
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Sark79 on April 11, 2006, 08:50:16 PM lol Iron.. Not sure about the DVD . I think there is a cartoon version, but I haven't been able to find it yet.
No I haven't read it Nemesis, but I did a google from your title. It looks good. I will ask for it at the library next time, I am in . Most of the books I read are biographies. Other than biographies, the last non gambling related book I read was Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: tikay on April 11, 2006, 08:53:47 PM Nice Post Sark - thank you. I only read non-fiction as a rule, but if I see a copy of this, I may give it a try. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Sark79 on April 11, 2006, 08:55:41 PM Tikay. The link at the bottom of the post is an online version. Print it out, if you are like me and can't read from the computer screen.
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: dik9 on April 11, 2006, 09:13:35 PM Brilliant book although i prefer "The Reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach, fantastic author!!!
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Sark79 on April 11, 2006, 09:16:31 PM Brilliant book although i prefer "The Reluctant Messiah" by Richard Bach, fantastic author!!! Never seen that one. That is two, I have to look for now. The Reluctant Messiah and the book Nemesis mentioned 8) Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: I, Zimbra on April 11, 2006, 10:16:30 PM I recommend 'Journey to the West' by Wu Ch'eng-En.
If this sounds like I'm taking the P.S., I assure you I'm not, it's one of my favourite stories of all time. It's the novel that the TV series 'Monkey' was based on, it was written in the 16th century. I've read it numerous times since I was small - and is available in many different versions, either abridged or unabridged. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: clayftknight on April 11, 2006, 10:36:10 PM Richard Bach is fantastic.
The reluctant messiah is actually called 'Illusions' and I've read Jonathon Livingston Seagull also.........from a guy who doesn't read fiction these two are fantastic. "The river delights to lift us free, if only we dare let go" "Imagine a world, perfect, beautiful and just, then be sure of one thing, the master has imagined it quite a bit better than you" "The mark of yyour ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy" Illusions is full of fabtastic quotes woven into a brilliant story that will stretch your mind like Seagull does. The last quote is one of the best.......... "Everything in this book may be wrong" Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: clayftknight on April 11, 2006, 10:56:26 PM Illusions is called......
Illusions ; The adventures of the reluctant messiah. And The messiahs handbook ; reminders for the advanced soul Which was the not real book in Illusions that the messiah had and that the quotes came from.................is now itself a real book lol Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Sark79 on April 11, 2006, 11:05:31 PM I will look both these up guys, thanks
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Colchester Kev on April 11, 2006, 11:06:57 PM I mostly read biographies, but i am an avid reader of Minette walters, her book Acid Row is one of those "cant put it down til its finished" ones.
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Nakor on April 11, 2006, 11:08:14 PM I recommend 'Journey to the West' by Wu Ch'eng-En. If this sounds like I'm taking the P.S., I assure you I'm not, it's one of my favourite stories of all time. It's the novel that the TV series 'Monkey' was based on, it was written in the 16th century. I've read it numerous times since I was small - and is available in many different versions, either abridged or unabridged. Great shout Zim - not read it for years guess I am in the storage box's at the weekend to dig my copy out. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: lazaroonie on April 11, 2006, 11:09:33 PM At the moment I am mostly reading Charles Bukowski..
Ironside, you can get the DVD of "factotum" from your local blockbusters if you prefer... Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Ironside on April 11, 2006, 11:15:05 PM At the moment I am mostly reading Charles Bukowski.. Ironside, you can get the DVD of "factotum" from your local blockbusters if you prefer... you are assuming that i have a blockbusters close by Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: lazaroonie on April 11, 2006, 11:18:59 PM i never assume anything.....
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Sark79 on April 11, 2006, 11:25:59 PM I told matt today, I was considering reading " Art of War ". I have seen a version of this that adapts the ideas into a poker context. http://www.jetcafe.org/npc/reviews/gambling/tournament_poker_and_the_art_of_war.html
This is an online shortend version I found. It gives most of the main ideas from the original version http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Sark79 on April 11, 2006, 11:27:43 PM If there are any smart blondes out there. Please explain it to me :blonde:
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Heid on April 11, 2006, 11:28:43 PM At the moment I am mostly reading Charles Bukowski.. Ironside, you can get the DVD of "factotum" from your local blockbusters if you prefer... you are assuming that i have a blockbusters close by Get with the online age darling... blockbuster online dvd rental no late charges...cheap as chips.. Amazon does the sam thing .. and they pay for return postage. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: I, Zimbra on April 12, 2006, 01:46:51 AM "All warfare is based on deception."
--- Sun Tzu any questions? 8) Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: AdamM on April 12, 2006, 11:13:53 AM I agree, Illusions is a great book. went on to read 'Seagul' which was good and 'One' which wasnt but Illusions is one of my favourite reads of all time.
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: TightEnd on April 12, 2006, 10:57:22 PM Nice thread
Recently I read a terrific book..."Saturday" by Ian McEwan.......clever plot and works on a couple of levels...everyone knows "Atonement" but his classic, to my mind...is "Endless Love" A book you MUST read if you never read is is "The Life of Pi" by Yan Mantel. It is quite simply the cleverest plot device I have ever read with a fantastic ending that will leave you gasping. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Nakor on April 12, 2006, 11:21:51 PM A book you MUST read if you never read is is "The Life of Pi" by Yan Mantel. It is quite simply the cleverest plot device I have ever read with a fantastic ending that will leave you gasping. I remember reading a review that called this book devious, how can a book/story be devious, it is what it is. Needless to say I tried it. A truly interesting read that can simply be called stunning and yes devious. I agree a must read. I have recently finished The Facts Behind the Helsinki Roccamatios, I believe his first title, a amazing display of emotion on the page. The Aids story is breathtaking, and the pain in the last story there for all to see. I am not sure its entertaining but worth a look just for the power he creates on the page. Please stop the book threads I am surrounded by unread books as it is. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Ironside on April 12, 2006, 11:43:57 PM when giving book reviews can you please let me know the title of any dvd's
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Nakor on April 12, 2006, 11:48:11 PM Iron
I would start with something like Love Actually. If you cope with the plot OK we will move you on to the more advanced stuff next week. Careful though its emotional stuff. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: TightEnd on April 12, 2006, 11:52:18 PM No NO NO, Love actually intertwines five stories in one arresting film made watchable by the beguiling "Eliza Doolitlle" type performance of Martine McCutcheon and the entirely believable conceit that Hugh Grant is not miscast as a Prime Minister
Its altogether on too high a level....... I'd start him off on "Shrek"...colours, songs...what more could you ask for? Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Ironside on April 12, 2006, 11:54:55 PM actually i like the film "a girl in a cafe" with kate macdonald
Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Nakor on April 13, 2006, 12:03:32 AM actually i like the film "a girl in a cafe" with kate macdonald Ahhh A Scotish led Curtis film, I was so close. Title: Re: Jonathan Livingston Seagull Post by: Dingdell on April 13, 2006, 09:59:32 PM I'm still struggling with the-is thread and the concept that so many poker players can read..............the people I normally play with at my local casino must be a bad mis representation of poker players as a whole........
As I will probably be spending a lot of time at Brighton not playing poker this weekend I will now be trawling the bookshops. :blonde: |