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Title: Bad move or bad timing?
Post by: Indestructable on April 16, 2006, 09:48:52 PM
In an mtt final where only first place matters. I am down to last 36 and in 12th place having slipped a bit.
I have 4000 chips, i am big blind and get
 Qd 5s
there are a few callers and I check. The flop is
 Qh   8d Qc

I slow play (was i wrong here?) and I check.
Player A with 6500 chips makes a small bet of 200 and player B with 7000 chips calls and I also call.
The turn is
 Aspades
I check again.
Player A bets 400 and Player B immediately calls as do I.
The river was
 4d
So we have no flush or straight possibilities. I had convinced myself that one player may have an 8 and the other an ace.
I bet 500 and I am raised to 1500 by player A, Player B goes all in.
I call and so does Player A. I was right that Player B had an ace, but Player A revealed
 8s 8h
I had thought I was trapping here and looking forward to a good return. Only to find i was the prey and well and truly stuffed.
Up to this point I had played fairly well and quite patiently, but i also knew that it was a winner takes all situation and no point just looking for a final table pay out.
Any advice or thoughts on how I played this. I guess there are two questions, should i have bet differently early on, and should i have gone all in or folded?


Title: Re: Bad move or bad timing?
Post by: Nem on April 16, 2006, 09:55:23 PM
In an mtt final where only first place matters. I am down to last 36 and in 12th place having slipped a bit.
I have 4000 chips, i am big blind and get
 Qd 5s
there are a few callers and I check. The flop is
 Qh   8d Qc

I slow play (was i wrong here?) and I check.
Player A with 6500 chips makes a small bet of 200 and player B with 7000 chips calls and I also call.
The turn is
 Aspades
I check again.
Player A bets 400 and Player B immediately calls as do I.
The river was
 4d
So we have no flush or straight possibilities. I had convinced myself that one player may have an 8 and the other an ace.
I bet 500 and I am raised to 1500 by player A, Player B goes all in.
I call and so does Player A. I was right that Player B had an ace, but Player A revealed
 8s 8h
I had thought I was trapping here and looking forward to a good return. Only to find i was the prey and well and truly stuffed.
Up to this point I had played fairly well and quite patiently, but i also knew that it was a winner takes all situation and no point just looking for a final table pay out.
Any advice or thoughts on how I played this. I guess there are two questions, should i have bet differently early on, and should i have gone all in or folded?


You made a blocker bet (meaning if it is raised you fold) but you didn't fold. Once your bet is re-raised in this scenario, you HAVE to fold.


Title: Re: Bad move or bad timing?
Post by: temp0r on April 16, 2006, 10:39:42 PM
exact same thing happened to me yesterday. it's simply unavoidable. but trust me it's worse when it's PL cash and you DON'T slow play it and lose over $100 on it.


Title: Re: Bad move or bad timing?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 17, 2006, 01:59:16 AM
You need to raise on the turn, i think. Remember any Q9 or higher is also beating you. The raise will tell you where you stand in regards to a high set of trips or better.


Title: Re: Bad move or bad timing?
Post by: Indestructable on April 17, 2006, 07:07:14 AM
I think my main criticism of how I played it was that I was so confident of winning the hnad that I was blind to the possibility of losing it. I should have at the very least paused and thought it through more. I guess I live and learn.