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Title: Bet on the flop here? -Would you have? Post by: Tinsel Town on April 17, 2006, 05:16:18 PM PokerStars Game #4654755203: Tournament #23233028, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/04/17 - 12:08:55 (ET)
Table '23233028 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 3: MrPinksTip (2055 in chips) Seat 5: Pavel2112 (3072 in chips) Seat 6: nick0769 (1950 in chips) Seat 7: bluesmutt (1995 in chips) Seat 8: Qwiksilfver (1395 in chips) Seat 9: ranzanino (3033 in chips) Qwiksilfver: posts small blind 75 ranzanino: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Pavel2112 [Kd As] MrPinksTip: folds Pavel2112: raises 350 to 500 nick0769: folds bluesmutt: folds Qwiksilfver: folds ranzanino: calls 350 *** FLOP *** [5d Tc Ad] ranzanino: checks Pavel2112: checks *** TURN *** [5d Tc Ad] [6s] ranzanino: checks Pavel2112: bets 500 ranzanino: calls 500 *** RIVER *** [5d Tc Ad 6s] [Js] ranzanino: bets 2033 and is all-in Pavel2112: calls 2033 *** SHOW DOWN *** ranzanino: shows [Td Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Tens) Pavel2112: shows [Kd As] (a pair of Aces) ranzanino collected 6141 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 6141 | Rake 0 Board [5d Tc Ad 6s Js] Seat 3: MrPinksTip folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Pavel2112 showed [Kd As] and lost with a pair of Aces Seat 6: nick0769 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: bluesmutt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Qwiksilfver (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: ranzanino (big blind) showed [Td Jd] and won (6141) with two pair, Jacks and Tens Still scratching my head with this one. I had read the guy as a fairly solid type. There was no evidence of him chasing draws. Was it my check on the flop that done for me? Any advice would be appreciated. Td Th Title: Re: Bet on the flop here? -Would you have? Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 17, 2006, 05:20:17 PM To answer your question.
Yes. Title: Re: Bet on the flop here? -Would you have? Post by: Bongo on April 17, 2006, 05:22:13 PM Why are you checking the flop? I'd bet it the vast majority of the time..
Title: Re: Bet on the flop here? -Would you have? Post by: Jim-D on April 17, 2006, 05:36:01 PM Deffinate Bet for me here,
Top pair Top kicker is not really a hand good enough to trap with, So id stick a pot sized bet in, Especially with 2 diamonds on board id like to just take it down on the flop. Title: Re: Bet on the flop here? -Would you have? Post by: Tinsel Town on April 17, 2006, 05:46:55 PM Good question in hindsight Bongo.
I was trying to trap him ( my inexperience showing perhaps) into thinking I didn't have the Ace. He didn't bet on the flop so I bet on the turn and thought he'd either fold or reraise me. I had considered he may have ace queen or Ace jack and I'd have him outkicked. When he called my turn bet and went all in on the river it looked to me like he was trying to force me out but in hindsight I should have guessed he had the two pair. Maybe not Tens and Jacks but Aces and Jacks perhaps. However you are right a strong flop bet should/would have forced him out. Thanks Td Th Title: Re: Bet on the flop here? -Would you have? Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 17, 2006, 06:00:29 PM If you bet the flop here, he'll call anyway with the pair and the flush draw. You can then shut him out on the blank turn.
Title: Re: Bet on the flop here? -Would you have? Post by: temp0r on April 17, 2006, 08:24:37 PM If you bet the flop here, he'll call anyway with the pair and the flush draw. You can then shut him out on the blank turn. this is very true. he'd have to give you respect for the ace if you bet twice. on that flop a trap is only really a valuable play when the blinds are a few levels higher. and even then it's a risk i'd only take if i really needed the chips. |