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Title: how to play jacks
Post by: crown on April 18, 2006, 07:19:08 AM
hi guys as u know i"m new but just wondered if this was played right i had just sat down on a $1/$2 table sat with $40 and even b4 i settled and saw how people played i get dealt  Js Jc  now i"m not in small or big blind but i hate playing these cards on tribeca as they always seem to get done but i raise it $10 i have 2 callers the sb and bb flop drops   8h 7h Tc i bet out $10 again get reraised all in from the small blind (bb mucks) i call and show my  Js Jc he turns and shows  Kh 2h obviously he hits a flush not next card but river was just wondering if i had played JJ correct


Title: Re: how to play jacks
Post by: thetank on April 18, 2006, 08:49:18 AM
It's a very clear $30 flop bet required here IMO rather than $10.

On that board you make two assumptions.

1. Your hand is probably good.

2. There are many draws. Cards you don't want to see include 9 hearts, 3 remaining Queens, 3 Kings and 3 Aces. The other 3 sixes are probably bad news and even spiking your set, the other 2 Jacks might be a sorry sight. That's 23 cards, half the deck with two cards to come!

You don't want to milk your opponents, you want to bet big so they make a mistake if they're calling with weak draws.*  Bet the size of the pot, if this is over 40% of your stack, just go ahead and go all-in. You don't want to bet $10 and make it correct for a weak ass hand like  Ahrt Qs to call you (or go over the top of you)

With one overcard and a flush draw, K2 would have still been correct to call if you went all-in. It is not a weak draw here, he has 12 live cards. In this specific hand, theres nothing you could have done to avoid losing the dosh, however in the future, play your vulnerable overpairs fast on draw heavy boards.


Title: Re: how to play jacks
Post by: thetank on April 18, 2006, 09:24:21 AM
By betting $30 on the flop, you may even make the  Kh 2h player make a mistake (by folding) when he has plenty odds to call.

This isn't too likely, a guy willing to play that hand for the $10 raise pre-flop is unlikley to lay down post flop even when he should, never mind when he shouldn't.
Still, it's important to give them the oppurtunity to make a mistake.


Title: Re: how to play jacks
Post by: sharpy on April 18, 2006, 11:04:40 AM

    ;iagree;

  Also if you are going to play $1/$2 cash then I would advise that you sit down with a minimum of $150.

  This way you have enough $$ to push people off their drawing hands.

  After the pre flop raise to $10 you only have $30 back and no-one is going anywhere who is left in the hand.


Title: Re: how to play jacks
Post by: Royal Flush on April 18, 2006, 12:10:56 PM

    ;iagree;

  Also if you are going to play $1/$2 cash then I would advise that you sit down with a minimum of $150.

  This way you have enough $$ to push people off their drawing hands.

  After the pre flop raise to $10 you only have $30 back and no-one is going anywhere who is left in the hand.

agreed. Also if you have any desire to win at poker, you need to lose this.....


but i hate playing these cards on tribeca as they always seem to get done

Negative thinking produces negative results.