Title: poker book for aggression Post by: Dingdell on April 20, 2006, 09:35:19 PM Any one found a good book that helps with getting an aggressive approach?
I have been reviewing my play over the last week or so and decided I am a poker wimp! I dont have that need to win as much as others have and I dont know how to get it. My play is too social and I need to change it. How do others approach the game? Is there a book that has honed your approach? Is there an attitude you have on the table that you want to share? Thanks Tracey Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Royal Flush on April 20, 2006, 09:49:00 PM Watch some of the aggresive online players, best way imo
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: tikay on April 20, 2006, 09:52:45 PM I just pretend my opponent is Flushy.
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Sark79 on April 20, 2006, 10:02:56 PM Watch some of the aggresive online players, best way imo Like H@££INGGOL ( He is on or is waiting to get on 9 $10/20 NL tables on stars right now...How can he concentrate on all those tables ) The total he had on these tables was over $68,500. That is a nice position to be in. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Bigfella on April 20, 2006, 10:09:25 PM I think "Reaching The Final Table" by Eric Lindgren is quite good for an insight into aggressive tourney play. Having started out reading TJ Cloutier's approach and the Harrington books, Lindgrens approach is very different. It's a very easy read, nowhere near as technical as the others I have mentioned, but I enjoyed it as a contrast to the others and aggressive play is the theme throughout the book.
Cheers. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Royal Flush on April 20, 2006, 10:11:36 PM Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: AdamM on April 20, 2006, 10:16:47 PM have you read
The Psychology of Poker by Alan N. Schoonmaker I've heard the book slated but I personally found it very useful in understanding other peoples motivations and styles of play, and also in developing a style I'm comfortable in. It's not a strategy book but it'll help you build a framework for you to learn within. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: jezza777 on April 20, 2006, 11:02:06 PM Try Killer poker by John Vorhaus , there is a live and online version. He talks about mindset and aggression a lot and sets little taske like " just raise 5 pots in a row and note the effect on your opponents ". Havent read it for a while but it was pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Nakor on April 20, 2006, 11:04:58 PM Watch some of the aggresive online players, best way imo IMO This approach has its merits and helped me loads - and as ever the best teachers are blonde. Tikay's displays in the $250 afternoon tourney on lads are interesting 'Don't want a flop with JJ' is my favourite line. Watching the Monkey perfect the tight aggressive image on stars. As well as Riverdave and At-It on stars in some multi action generally guarantee some raise action. Some bloke on ladbrokes FlushyP4C tends to edge towards the aggressive. All worth a watch - helped me. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: mex on April 21, 2006, 09:59:54 AM Isn't the new Hansen book along these lines. It concentrates on if you think he'll out play you push all in!!!
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: matt674 on April 21, 2006, 10:05:10 AM Watching the Monkey perfect the tight aggressive image on stars. Thank you for the kind, complimentary words Nakor - the £5 i promised is being sent by monkey express post this afternoon. However I believe you have missed the word "trying" out of the above sentence!! who knows, one day i may perfect it - but then there probably isnt one person on the forum who can say they've "prefected the game of poker". Thats why its such fun :) Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Newmanseye on April 21, 2006, 10:32:52 AM First poker book i ever bought was Poker for dummies, ( i await the piss taking ) But it is a great book for tight aggressive play. It has the fundementals of being selective with your aggression.
Other books worth reading are Phil Gordons the real deal and little green book. These give an insight in to a slightly looser approach, although not as loose as Gus Hansen. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Nakor on April 21, 2006, 10:38:22 AM Watching the Monkey perfect the tight aggressive image on stars. Thank you for the kind, complimentary words Nakor - the £5 i promised is being sent by monkey express post this afternoon. However I believe you have missed the word "trying" out of the above sentence!! who knows, one day i may perfect it - but then there probably isnt one person on the forum who can say they've "prefected the game of poker". Thats why its such fun :) I did state its just an Image - wouldn't want to pretend you know it all, just more then me and less then Big. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: matt674 on April 21, 2006, 10:44:09 AM yes squire i know - and to be honest i'm still trying to perfect the image as well.
I'll know when i've succeeded when people stop calling my all in preflop reraises with hands like J-9 o/s!! (not that i'm complaining or want them to stop of course!! ;)) Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: byronkincaid on April 21, 2006, 10:51:00 AM Kill Phil teaches an incredibly aggessive strategy
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: AndrewT on April 21, 2006, 11:16:05 AM Kill Phil teaches an incredibly aggessive strategy I have heard that this book plays up aggression, but haven't actually read it, so can't really comment further. However, I think maybe 'how do I become more aggressive?' is not the question you should be asking Tracey. It should be more along the lines of 'how can I better pick up on weakness in my opponents?' If you do this, then the aggression will naturally follow as you will start to focus your game on the cards your opponent doesn't have, rather than the cards you hold. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Dingdell on April 21, 2006, 11:23:02 AM Watching the Monkey perfect the tight aggressive image on stars. Thank you for the kind, complimentary words Nakor - the £5 i promised is being sent by monkey express post this afternoon. However I believe you have missed the word "trying" out of the above sentence!! who knows, one day i may perfect it - but then there probably isnt one person on the forum who can say they've "prefected the game of poker". Thats why its such fun :) I have perfected the game of loosing poker.it's been a long journey but I'm good at it now! Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: robyong on April 21, 2006, 11:28:18 AM Hi Dingell, there is a very simple way to ensure that you play aggressive which I have tried but never seem to stick to,. Basically to NEVER CALL pre-flop, on the flop or turn. You Raise, Re-Raise or Fold. For example, if you have 22 and want to play it, you must Raise or Re-Raise or Fold. It makes decisions really easy and always ask the question to your opponents. Try it, Nick played the system throughout the Vic Club £1500 and finished 4th. Whenever I play it I do well, but I end up sliding into calling raises to see flops instead of sticking to it.
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: tikay on April 21, 2006, 11:33:36 AM Hi Dingell, there is a very simple way to ensure that you play aggressive which I have tried but never seem to stick to,. Basically to NEVER CALL pre-flop, on the flop or turn. You Raise, Re-Raise or Fold. For example, if you have 22 and want to play it, you must Raise or Re-Raise or Fold. It makes decisions really easy and always ask the question to your opponents. Try it, Nick played the system throughout the Vic Club £1500 and finished 4th. Whenever I play it I do well, but I end up sliding into calling raises to see flops instead of sticking to it. I did the same thng a few times Rob, with remarkable success. But my bottle seems to go as the comp buy-in gets bigger. But yes, Raise or Pass worked for me. We are talking "Live" here though, it does not work Online during the early stages of an MTT, you'd get 7 callers! Better to limp & see what happens from there, as a half-decent player can outplay opponents Online easier. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: matt674 on April 21, 2006, 11:37:24 AM We are talking "Live" here though, it does not work Online during the early stages of an MTT, you'd get 7 callers! Better to limp & see what happens from there, as a half-decent player can outplay opponents Online easier. ;iagree; Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Royal Flush on April 21, 2006, 02:31:59 PM Hi Dingell, there is a very simple way to ensure that you play aggressive which I have tried but never seem to stick to,. Basically to NEVER CALL pre-flop, on the flop or turn. You Raise, Re-Raise or Fold. For example, if you have 22 and want to play it, you must Raise or Re-Raise or Fold. It makes decisions really easy and always ask the question to your opponents. Try it, Nick played the system throughout the Vic Club £1500 and finished 4th. Whenever I play it I do well, but I end up sliding into calling raises to see flops instead of sticking to it. Cheers for that i will give it a go, its how i play limit cash i just never thought it would work in a comp! Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Dingdell on April 21, 2006, 02:35:54 PM Hi Dingell, there is a very simple way to ensure that you play aggressive which I have tried but never seem to stick to,. Basically to NEVER CALL pre-flop, on the flop or turn. You Raise, Re-Raise or Fold. For example, if you have 22 and want to play it, you must Raise or Re-Raise or Fold. It makes decisions really easy and always ask the question to your opponents. Try it, Nick played the system throughout the Vic Club £1500 and finished 4th. Whenever I play it I do well, but I end up sliding into calling raises to see flops instead of sticking to it. Cheers for that i will give it a go, its how i play limit cash i just never thought it would work in a comp! I may play the comp at Luton tonight.......I'll report back! ;scarymoment; Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2006, 02:37:29 PM thanks for letting me know.
I feel a re-re-reraise coming on. Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Dingdell on April 21, 2006, 02:38:07 PM im double bluffing!
welcome back - had a lot of burgers?? Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2006, 02:39:38 PM nope. The T-Bones are massive though.
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Dingdell on April 21, 2006, 02:42:29 PM nope. The T-Bones are massive though. really.....?! Hope you had a good break - you deserved a rest I'm sure. Maybe see you later. :) Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2006, 02:43:42 PM Yes good to get away. I love New York.
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Dingdell on April 21, 2006, 02:45:06 PM Yes good to get away. I love New York. Did you get me a present?... Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2006, 02:46:26 PM No no, the last time I tried that it didn't work.
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Nem on April 21, 2006, 02:47:27 PM Tightend, how long did you go for?
Title: Re: poker book for aggression Post by: Dingdell on April 21, 2006, 02:48:31 PM No no, the last time I tried that it didn't work. ;scarymoment; Unlike your poker the old phrase try try try again doesn't spread into the rest of your life then?! Ok - I admot defeat - glad you're back and see you later maybe. 8) |