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Title: Different STT levels
Post by: moritzey on April 28, 2006, 03:10:35 AM
Just been wondering about this for a bit, played a few of the $5.50 extended sit-n-go's on blonde earlier on and played like an absolute fish in the majority of them, busting out early in two and bubbling in the third.
At some point I mentioned to Kev that I was playing in a $11 Sng at the same time, and he made the fair point that I should probably master the $5.50 level first before playing those.
Fair point, except for the fact that I've played them for quite a while now, and have quite a good ROI on them. Basically I'm a winning player on the $11 level but a loosing player on the $5.50 level.

Dunno really what to make of this, it's either that I've been a very lucky fish at the higher level over some 120 STTs or that the standard there really is lower or more suited to my (usually quite tight) style of play. Any ideas why that could be? And more importantly, how can I crack the $5.50 level?


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: totalise on April 28, 2006, 03:52:02 AM
if you are beating the $11 level, I wouldn't worry about cracking the $5's!

what kinda sample are you running off on the $5's? at the extended sng's I guess that people can sit and wait for better hands because of the longer blind structure, so its possible that you are just not adjusting to the improved requisite hand strength, as in your hand would typically need to be stronger to play for stacks in an extended then it would be in a standard.... but your post doesn't really give any info as to where you might be going wrong, so it will be pretty hard to offer any useful advice.

Also if you are just playing in the bingo-fury blonde poker $5 sng tournies, then the skill level is (or at least should be) higher then your average $11 donkfest.. or its going to be real volatile given their tendancy to reduce into e-peen contests. Either of these will increase your variance in the short term

Not sure if this is any use, but given the sparsity of the initial post, its hard to give more pertinent advice.





Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: The Baron on April 28, 2006, 03:56:50 AM
Certain levels aren't always suited to you. I have a HUGE STT sample and my worst results usually came in the middle buy-in STTs.


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: Swordpoker on April 28, 2006, 10:45:06 AM
I've discovered the same thing with SNGs. I do better in $20 &$30 games than I do in $5 &$10 ones. If your style of play suits the $11 games then stick with it and build your bankroll.


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: the bus on April 28, 2006, 10:56:15 AM
Even, pretty boy poker Guru, Mason Malmouth reommends staying away from the really small limits sometimes. Playing them for no longer than it takes to get used to the mechanics of the game.

He wiz talking about limit poker. It could be kinda true in STTs too though. At the smaller buy-ins you'll have less skills in your arsenal to bring to bear. A lot of your weapons are obsolete when opponents call all the time. You have to play a completely different style of poker (the waiting game)

That being said, you should be able to beat the $5 extendeds, if you're not, totalise's advice on how you may not have properly adjusted is well worth taking to heart.


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: ifm on April 28, 2006, 12:13:43 PM
Quite simple answer really,  ;shark; like me and Kev OWN the $5 stt's just ask Robert, tighty and the LIMPET  :D


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: stallyon on April 28, 2006, 01:02:15 PM
as you move further down the scale you are faced with more and more learners who will call anything and hit impossibilities...you can never bluff these people as it isnt in their vocabulary and they dont even know they hold a full house....


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 28, 2006, 01:40:51 PM
Quite simple answer really,  ;shark; like me and Kev OWN the $5 stt's just ask Robert, tighty and the LIMPET  :D

Correct :D :D :D

Thanks also to Moritzey and Heid for last nights donations ;)


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: moritzey on April 28, 2006, 08:30:52 PM
Thanks for all the useful comments. totalise has a good point with adjusting to the 'extended' bit of the $5 sngs that I've recently been donating to. Will have a look into that at some point and take some money of Kev then ;)
Quite glad to hear though, that I'm not the only one who has problems beating the game at a smaller level rather than my own level.
Totalise: My sample size for the $5.50 is pretty small, perhaps 20 games or so, so I admit, way to early to make long-term predictions, it just didn't feel right at the time.
Well, I'll probably find out tonight if the game is beatable down there with a different strategy (hint: rock)...


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 28, 2006, 08:35:09 PM
I love playing against rocks, makes my all in thefts so much easier :)


Title: Re: Different STT levels
Post by: moritzey on April 28, 2006, 11:52:56 PM
Is that so? In that case I think I'll run scared tonight and practise a little at the Oxford cup over the next two days before taking your hard earned cash by calling your all-in thefts on Monday. (Or more likely, calling with second pair and looking silly when you rake the pot ...)