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Title: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 01, 2006, 09:11:29 PM
PokerStars Game #4802212155: Tournament #23911707, $20+$2 Omaha Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/05/01 - 16:06:54 (ET)
Table '23911707 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: A wedgie A (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: haspel (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: corndog_11 (1700 in chips)
Seat 4: Ironside (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: badlad (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: ldicker8 (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: filmblik (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: PSUROCKETS (1370 in chips)
corndog_11: posts small blind 10
Ironside: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [9s As Ah Ks]
badlad: folds
ldicker8: folds
filmblik: calls 20
PSUROCKETS: folds
A wedgie A: folds
haspel: folds
corndog_11: calls 10
Ironside: raises 40 to 60
filmblik: calls 40
corndog_11: raises 80 to 140
Ironside: raises 340 to 480
filmblik: folds
corndog_11: calls 340
*** FLOP *** [Kd 6s 2h]
corndog_11: checks
Ironside: bets 1000 and is all-in
corndog_11: calls 1000
*** TURN *** [Kd 6s 2h] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 6s 2h 8c] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
corndog_11: shows [Ac 7h 5h 6c] (a straight, Four to Eight)
Ironside: shows [9s As Ah Ks] (a pair of Aces)
Ironside said, "unreal"
corndog_11 collected 3020 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3020 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 6s 2h 8c 4d]
Seat 1: A wedgie A folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: haspel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: corndog_11 (small blind) showed [Ac 7h 5h 6c] and won (3020) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 4: Ironside (big blind) showed [9s As Ah Ks] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: badlad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ldicker8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: filmblik folded before Flop
Seat 9: PSUROCKETS folded before Flop (didn't bet)



50p to the bad beat bucket


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: MrMoves on May 01, 2006, 09:59:51 PM
That is a horrible one.

Welcome to PLO.


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 01, 2006, 10:38:17 PM
MrMoves i love PLO its my game of choice (that and PLO8) but even online people dont normally call my all in 2nd hand of a comp with 2nd pair and no draws


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 01, 2006, 10:55:32 PM
Fish


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Josh on May 01, 2006, 10:58:55 PM
MrMoves i love PLO its my game of choice (that and PLO8) but even online people dont normally call my all in 2nd hand of a comp with 2nd pair and no draws
He had a draw.


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 01, 2006, 10:59:22 PM
MrMoves i love PLO its my game of choice (that and PLO8) but even online people dont normally call my all in 2nd hand of a comp with 2nd pair and no draws
He had a draw.

ok no real draw


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 01, 2006, 11:06:09 PM
he proberly knows you are a fish


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 01, 2006, 11:16:10 PM
he proberly knows you are a fish

well i wish these pro's would stop sucking out on the fish cause it getting painfull


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 01, 2006, 11:27:15 PM
I found one too dude. ;)

Table "Mazhar" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 2: Edward035 ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Rikbin ($23.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Foaming_h ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Razga ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 6: 227525277 ($28.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Zivosss ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Ljelson ($21.97 in chips)
Seat 9: Karrion ($17.55 in chips)
Seat 10: NoPanties ($26.50 in chips)
Foaming_h: posts small blind $0.15
Razga: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foaming_h [Tc 8s 7c 9d]
227525277: folds
Zivosss: calls $0.25
Ljelson: calls $0.25
Karrion: folds
NoPanties: folds
Edward035: calls $0.25
Rikbin: calls $0.25
Foaming_h: calls $0.10
Razga: checks
----- FLOP ----- [6c 9c 5s]
Foaming_h: bets $0.75
Razga: folds
Zivosss: folds
Ljelson: raises to $1.50
Edward035: calls $1.50
Rikbin: folds
Foaming_h: raises to $7.50
Ljelson: calls $6
Edward035: calls $6
----- TURN ----- [6c 9c 5s][7d]
Foaming_h: bets $8.75
Ljelson: raises to $14.22 and is all-in
Edward035: is all-in $11.70
Foaming_h: calls $5.47
----- RIVER ----- [6c 9c 5s 7d][Qc]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Ljelson: shows [Kc Ac 3d Jh] (A Flush, Ace high)
Edward035: shows [6s 8d 7h Kh] (A Straight, Nine high)
Foaming_h: shows [Tc 8s 7c 9d] (A Flush, Queen high)
Ljelson collects $4.99 from Side pot #1
Ljelson collects $56.15 from Main pot


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Nem on May 02, 2006, 12:00:00 AM
I've always wanted to use this smiley and I will dedicate it to every bad beat story I read.

;reallyamsorry;



Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: totalise on May 02, 2006, 12:03:06 AM
I just want to thank the moderator for posting this in the "hand analysis" board. I have my fingers crossed that other members follow suit and we see upwards of 20 bad-beat posts a day on here.. that would be great



Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: ifm on May 02, 2006, 12:04:47 AM
Actually EVERY bad beat post should contain the words "i know you don't care but i'm still gonna try to force it on the whole forum", that way we can avoid them like the plague.


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 12:09:27 AM
hey the hand analysis post is already full of bad beat storys we never want to analysis hands we win it would give too much away about our game


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: totalise on May 02, 2006, 12:23:24 AM
hey the hand analysis post is already full of bad beat storys

yes it is unfortunately...

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we never want to analysis hands we win it would give too much away about our game

if you are worried about your game being exploited due to someone seeing ONE winning hand of yours, then its a poor testament to your general confidence about your own game... because its a sure fact that people out there have better lines on your game then anyone lurking/posting in here, due to tracking software/data-mining and other analysis tools already out there

I think it would be great if you could have a "bad beat and other boring useless hands" section as a child board.. or include something in the title.. maybe "UBBS" (useless bad beat story) in the title, just to inform people of the nature of the post




Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 12:31:17 AM
i think the title of this thread might give most people a clue i was letting off steam after another one of the 1000 bad beats i have had this weekend


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: WellChief on May 02, 2006, 12:51:07 AM
Totalise is right.  Most hand analysis posts are bad beat stories but at least most ask if they've played it right or not.  This certainly doesn't belong in this forum.


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: totalise on May 02, 2006, 01:03:05 AM
i think the title of this thread might give most people a clue i was letting off steam after another one of the 1000 bad beats i have had this weekend

dont get me wrong.. I dont begrudge anyone getting angry at people repeatedly trying to give them money/chips and failing to do so.. I just dont think the hand analysis board is the place to do it. There are some good posters here, and they are more likely to stop posting in here as the ratio of bad-beat:good posts tilt more towards the bad-beats



Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 01:17:44 AM
ok i have in the past mooted for a bad beat board as some players like to vent after a beat and posts get put on the general or the HA board but at present there will be no new boards

now sometime like any other member i like to vent aswell and like any other member i have the right to make a bad beat post and pay my 50p to P4C

ignore the fact i am an admin i am a blondite first and foremost and i help out by moderating here and there if needed or working under the bonnent for members that are having problems

if the HA board became a haven for bad beats then obviously the mods would look again at the need for a bad beat board but at present i dont think we "hooligans" have ruined the board too much with bad beat stories





Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: totalise on May 02, 2006, 01:31:37 AM
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ignore the fact i am an admin i am a blondite first and foremost and i help out by moderating here and there if needed or working under the bonnent for members that are having problems

good point, sometimes gets overlooked. In general I tend to hold moderators to higher standards.. rightly or wrongly.. easy to forget they are still normal people

bad beats are just a huge anoyance factor for me.. maybe its an over-reaction, and maybe I apply my own personal resentment for them to others and assume they think the same... I just fear that when a mod starts posting something, it will create a cavalcade of badbeats.. but its probably an unjustified fear, and as you say, if it gets too bad, you boys in blue from the so grammar crew will jump on it

Apols if you considered it a personal attack, as that was certainly not the case







Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: ifm on May 02, 2006, 01:35:58 AM
you boys in blue from the so grammar crew will jump on it

Now that's funny, all things considered :D


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 01:36:32 AM
no apol needed

if people start copying me in anything then they need there head examined as i already
need mine

as for bad beats i actually have a love for hearing other peoples and actually read bad beat boards on some sites

and when live wish people would tell me there bad beats it makes me feel human again and makes me realise i aint the only one getting them


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 01:37:07 AM
you boys in blue from the so grammar crew will jump on it

Now that's funny, all things considered :D

you saying there is something wrong with my grammer?

i better get round there and check on her


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: ifm on May 02, 2006, 01:38:13 AM
you boys in blue from the so grammar crew will jump on it

Now that's funny, all things considered :D

you saying there is something wrong with my grammer?

i better get round there and check on her

Not a pop at you mate.


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: thetank on May 02, 2006, 01:40:20 AM
Was going to go and post a bad beat in the hand analysis board, without using vowels other than o, but it looks as if people might just go pop if I did.



Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 01:42:01 AM
you boys in blue from the so grammar crew will jump on it

Now that's funny, all things considered :D

you saying there is something wrong with my grammer?

i better get round there and check on her

Not a pop at you mate.

dont worry mate i know i dont use the queens english on the boards and would never be a member of a board that made me


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 01:42:48 AM
ok hows this for a bad beat than didnt cost me a penny cause i think i played it right

PokerStars Game #4804892082:  Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/05/01 - 20:38:54 (ET)
Table 'Shaula V' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: dino9 ($186.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Hveddell ($69.50 in chips)
Seat 3: chibbles ($196 in chips)
Seat 4: BlikeShoe ($147.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Ironside ($216.15 in chips)
Seat 6: RiverTrouble ($492.50 in chips)
Seat 7: RiveredDeath ($42.20 in chips)
Seat 8: glen19 ($118.80 in chips)
Seat 9: pot man I ($234.65 in chips)
dino9: posts small blind $1
Hveddell: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [3h 4c 5h 5d]
chibbles: calls $2
BlikeShoe: folds
Ironside: folds
RiverTrouble: folds
RiveredDeath: calls $2
glen19: folds
pot man I: calls $2
dino9: folds
Hveddell: checks
*** FLOP *** [6h 5s 6c]
Hveddell: checks
chibbles: bets $6
RiveredDeath: calls $6
pot man I: folds
Hveddell: folds
*** TURN *** [6h 5s 6c] [2c]
chibbles: checks
RiveredDeath: checks
*** RIVER *** [6h 5s 6c 2c] [5c]
chibbles: bets $20
RiveredDeath: folds
chibbles collected $20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21 | Rake $1
Board [6h 5s 6c 2c 5c]
Seat 1: dino9 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Hveddell (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: chibbles collected ($20)
Seat 4: BlikeShoe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ironside folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: RiverTrouble folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: RiveredDeath folded on the River
Seat 8: glen19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pot man I (button) folded on the Flop


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 01:44:36 AM
ps that hand actually wone me $120 as it cleared my stars bonus so i am off to my bed now

see if i can wake up in a better mood


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: totalise on May 02, 2006, 01:55:43 AM
hmmm

the so grammar crew comment was meant to be a rip-off of tightys title.. but it seems that its the so comma crew (and the boys in blue rhymed with it so much better then "boys in red"...)

all in all, a pretty poor attempt at injecting humour into my post!

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ok hows this for a bad beat than didnt cost me a penny cause i think i played it right

perfect!





Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Sunday8pm on May 02, 2006, 05:53:45 AM
ok hows this for a bad beat than didnt cost me a penny cause i think i played it right

PokerStars Game #4804892082:  Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/05/01 - 20:38:54 (ET)
Table 'Shaula V' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: dino9 ($186.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Hveddell ($69.50 in chips)
Seat 3: chibbles ($196 in chips)
Seat 4: BlikeShoe ($147.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Ironside ($216.15 in chips)
Seat 6: RiverTrouble ($492.50 in chips)
Seat 7: RiveredDeath ($42.20 in chips)
Seat 8: glen19 ($118.80 in chips)
Seat 9: pot man I ($234.65 in chips)
dino9: posts small blind $1
Hveddell: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [3h 4c 5h 5d]
chibbles: calls $2
BlikeShoe: folds
Ironside: folds
RiverTrouble: folds
RiveredDeath: calls $2
glen19: folds
pot man I: calls $2
dino9: folds
Hveddell: checks
*** FLOP *** [6h 5s 6c]
Hveddell: checks
chibbles: bets $6
RiveredDeath: calls $6
pot man I: folds
Hveddell: folds
*** TURN *** [6h 5s 6c] [2c]
chibbles: checks
RiveredDeath: checks
*** RIVER *** [6h 5s 6c 2c] [5c]
chibbles: bets $20
RiveredDeath: folds
chibbles collected $20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21 | Rake $1
Board [6h 5s 6c 2c 5c]
Seat 1: dino9 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Hveddell (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: chibbles collected ($20)
Seat 4: BlikeShoe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ironside folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: RiverTrouble folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: RiveredDeath folded on the River
Seat 8: glen19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pot man I (button) folded on the Flop


why did you pass 5543 in a hi/lo game?

that hand amongst others is like having the preflop nuts in that game


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: thetank on May 02, 2006, 05:57:47 AM
 ;iagree; It's a very tight fold there, too tight for cash IMHO.


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 03:52:10 PM
i am in EP and is a hand that can win you a little or lose you a monster pot

if you make a boat it rarely the nut boat the low is rarely the nut low and the flush is rarely a good flush

i find that in the PLO8 cash games you dont need to mess about just wait for the nuts and you will get paid


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: thetank on May 02, 2006, 04:45:12 PM
Why are you only winning small pots when an Ace and Deuce flop?


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: tikay on May 02, 2006, 05:05:17 PM

Pass 3-3-4-5 Pre-Flop in a Hi-Lo Omaha game? You jest, surely!


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: ifm on May 02, 2006, 05:05:57 PM
I wouldn't


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: tikay on May 02, 2006, 05:09:15 PM

With due respect, I can't imagine anyone would.

But maybe that shows how little I know about Hi-Lo. I do play a little $1-$2 Hi-Lo most nights, to "keep me interested" while in slow clock Hold 'Em Tourneys, & I do rather enjoy the game.


Title: Re: give me a fcuking break
Post by: Ironside on May 02, 2006, 06:13:47 PM
3345 single suit is a trouble hand and will in the long run cost you more than it will win you

in a STT and a MTT the hand is worth playing in deep money

in a cash game with knowledgable players it is also worth playing

but in a soft cash game where when you get the nuts you still get paid there is no need to get adventurous

ps this game there was normally a raise and a reraise before the flop so it would cost me about 10% of my stack to see the flop and therefore no implied odds