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Title: Crypto player
Post by: AlrightJack on May 03, 2006, 11:48:51 PM
Player M1000000 on Crypto has just said 'I wish u cancer' to me after I beat him out of a $20 pot. What do you think my course of action should be? I have had offensive comments made to me before on Crypto and when I have complained they have taken no action.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Robert HM on May 03, 2006, 11:50:03 PM
It deserves a complaint but crypto are not likely to follow it up


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Heid on May 03, 2006, 11:53:12 PM
See it depends on who they are with, who you are with, and probably who you get to talk to/who reads your email.

One crypo site can't act against another's player.

Disgraceful, completely unacceptable:(


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: bolt pp on May 04, 2006, 12:04:20 AM
i wouldnt usualy advocate this particular recourse but as the comment made was so reprehensible you can check what site the guy was playing on at www.sharkscope.com, then take whatever action you feel is appropriote.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Sark79 on May 04, 2006, 12:08:50 AM
I never use the chat box.  I switch it off.  Best thing to do is just ignore it.  It is only words. The guy obviously has a small weak mind.

One of the advantages of never reading any of the crap that is written is, you can't be annoyed by morons comments like that.

However a disadvantage is, I can't read comments like " Hi sark, I have seen your Blonde avatar, you are such a handsome guy".  :D



Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: AndrewT on May 04, 2006, 12:26:38 AM
Maybe he took a liking to you and was hoping that you were born between June 22nd and July 22nd as that would make you compatible with him?


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: byronkincaid on May 04, 2006, 12:26:50 AM
Do you think that's a big deal? I think that's quite mild compared to some comments I've had. I don't think crypto have ever answered one of my emails.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Poppet7 on May 04, 2006, 12:27:44 AM
That is disgusting, it's 20 dollars ffs...  >:( Shouldn't be said at all.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: AlrightJack on May 04, 2006, 12:33:12 AM
Another player was taking a while to act and he got the same comment


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: byronkincaid on May 04, 2006, 12:44:21 AM
Maybe it's because I used to work with a group of people with really juvenile senses of humour, it would be mum and girlfriend jokes all day long, that this sort of comment when directed at me just makes me laugh. My avatar on Stars is a picture of my daughter when she was 2 hours old. If I got upset everytime some moron tried to put me on tilt by making some sick comment about her I'd be spending half my life emailing Poker Stars.

I suppose this sort of thing could put off some of the fish so it's a good thing to try to do something about it.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Tonji on May 04, 2006, 12:58:55 AM
IMO it needs reporting. These dumb people need to understand its not acceptable, but many are so dumb, that no matter what the consequences they'll never learn.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: thetank on May 04, 2006, 02:45:24 AM
What goes around......

This guy is probably around 5ft 2" tall and is suffering from chronic sexual frustration.

Complaining is all you can do, I wouldn't worry too hard about whether he recieves any punitive measures though. By the sounds of things, he has a very sad life and one day will get a kick in the teeth or two from someone or other.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: thetank on May 04, 2006, 03:38:34 AM
Not that there's anything wrong with being 5ft2" tall.

This guy probably has a problem with himself though.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: bolt pp on May 04, 2006, 03:42:52 AM
Not that there's anything wrong with being 5ft2" tall.

This guy probably has a problem with himself though.
I baught a book case thats about 5"2.

Took me 4 days to assemble.

if i'd only known what people thought!!!!


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: JungleCat03 on May 04, 2006, 03:45:45 AM
I used to see exactly this comment regularly on the limit omaha/8 tables at party.

Personally i just find the comment so nonsensical i laugh at it although i can understand the upset it can cause.

The best retort i saw was when someone made this comment to another player and the player replied,

"I've already had it and i beat it just as bad as i'm beating you."


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: thetank on May 04, 2006, 03:49:09 AM

"I've already had it and i beat it just as bad as i'm beating you."


Nice one.



How can a book case stump you for 4 days bolt?

The small bits of wood are the shelves, the long ones are the sides, even I can manage them.
It's the desks, with silly keyboard drawers that slide out, which stump me.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: bolt pp on May 04, 2006, 04:06:58 AM
1 shelf per day.

dont get me started on the computer desk.

after messing around with all the bits for about 2 hours i decided to phone a mate and pay him to do it.

At which point my girlfriend proceeded to assemble the whole thing in about 1/2 an hour ;hide;

shamefully its true!!


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: thetank on May 04, 2006, 04:16:49 AM
My mates do things for free.

It's the girlfriend I've got to pay  :dontask:


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: bolt pp on May 04, 2006, 04:22:07 AM
I dont really want to know what "things" your mates do for free!!!!!! I'm just not that drunk.

hope your getting good "rates" with the missus though :D



Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: bundle on May 04, 2006, 05:17:01 AM
I used to see exactly this comment regularly on the limit omaha/8 tables at party.

Personally i just find the comment so nonsensical i laugh at it although i can understand the upset it can cause.

The best retort i saw was when someone made this comment to another player and the player replied,

"I've already had it and i beat it just as bad as i'm beating you."


I still think the best retort for these kind of peole is....Shhhh I'm still counting your chips....Drives them nuts


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Sark79 on May 04, 2006, 10:06:13 AM
What goes around......

This guy is probably around 5ft 2" tall and is suffering from chronic sexual frustration.

Complaining is all you can do, I wouldn't worry too hard about whether he recieves any punitive measures though. By the sounds of things, he has a very sad life and one day will get a kick in the teeth or two from someone or other.


I agree


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: lvlarc_uk on May 04, 2006, 10:16:12 AM
Only harmless words, just laugh at it. I do it myself sometimes, "hope you get hit by a truck" Just harmless banter :rofl:


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Highstack on May 04, 2006, 12:04:41 PM
Crypto won't do anything, I have tried before, but they don't care. This kind of moronic abuse is disgusting and should be stopped immediately.

There is nothing wrong with some good natured banter and sometimes it goes to far (I have done myself on many occasions), but wishing cancer on someone is lower than low. I have seen this before. I always swore that if anyone said that to me after taking a pot, my response would be "Thanks for your cash, I will put it towards my Chemotherapy". :)


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: tikay on May 04, 2006, 01:38:59 PM
1) INSIST that the site deals with your e-mail, & eventually the guy (or girl) gets a chat ban.

2) "Name & shame" - Put the players name up on here.

This kind of behaviour has to be dealt with. These toe rags would not say boo to a goose if you were face to face.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: bolt pp on May 05, 2006, 06:20:11 AM
1) INSIST that the site deals with your e-mail, & eventually the guy (or girl) gets a chat ban.

2) "Name & shame" - Put the players name up on here.

This kind of behaviour has to be dealt with. These toe rags would not say boo to a goose if you were face to face.
I came back to this thread after reicieving the obligotory diabolical insult for the night.

I'd like to be carefull with what i say as i'm not a propponent of the witch hunt, mob mentality which a thread like this could, justifiably, spiral into.

I think that the naming and shaming of such individuals who perpetrate these same outrageous insults day after day is a bit of a grey area but here goes.

A friend of mine who allows hes girlfriend to play on hes account has stopped playing entirely for the time being as a string of insults about her parents left her highly upset to say the least.

This is a subject about which i feel very strongly as it was the cause of my very first blonde post.

I do however see a problem with the continual naming and shaming of individuals as it is a system open to a multitude of abuse.

It also has the potential to be one of the most contentious threads ever created in a pehaps non blonde sense.

However the same small minded petty group of individuals responsible should be subjected to some form of reprisle!

they have, for too long now, imparted the most deplorably low form of insults with little or no compuction, but an abundance of impunity.

I know i'm responsible for making a few reprehensible/inviduous comments on blonde but hope that anyone that knows me knows by know that any comment made by me at 4am highlighting someones inability for the extravegant is precipitated by large quantaties of alcahol and is  as tounge in cheek i can drunkenly convey(usualy ineptly)

On the balance of things i think that the power given to these individuals by the annonimity that accompanies on line poker should be diminished.

Blonde is the perfect format for this and i think that if it helps deter another idiot from saying something that has unfotunate aplicability to an underserving opponent then the possibility of a "name and shame" thread is something that i think it would be wise to investigate more thouroghly.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2006, 10:49:00 AM
1) INSIST that the site deals with your e-mail, & eventually the guy (or girl) gets a chat ban.

2) "Name & shame" - Put the players name up on here.

This kind of behaviour has to be dealt with. These toe rags would not say boo to a goose if you were face to face.
I came back to this thread after reicieving the obligotory diabolical insult for the night.

I'd like to be carefull with what i say as i'm not a propponent of the witch hunt, mob mentality which a thread like this could, justifiably, spiral into.

I think that the naming and shaming of such individuals who perpetrate these same outrageous insults day after day is a bit of a grey area but here goes.

A friend of mine who allows hes girlfriend to play on hes account has stopped playing entirely for the time being as a string of insults about her parents left her highly upset to say the least.

This is a subject about which i feel very strongly as it was the cause of my very first blonde post.

I do however see a problem with the continual naming and shaming of individuals as it is a system open to a multitude of abuse.

It also has the potential to be one of the most contentious threads ever created in a pehaps non blonde sense.

However the same small minded petty group of individuals responsible should be subjected to some form of reprisle!

they have, for too long now, imparted the most deplorably low form of insults with little or no compuction, but an abundance of impunity.

I know i'm responsible for making a few reprehensible/inviduous comments on blonde but hope that anyone that knows me knows by know that any comment made by me at 4am highlighting someones inability for the extravegant is precipitated by large quantaties of alcahol and is  as tounge in cheek i can drunkenly convey(usualy ineptly)

On the balance of things i think that the power given to these individuals by the annonimity that accompanies on line poker should be diminished.

Blonde is the perfect format for this and i think that if it helps deter another idiot from saying something that has unfotunate aplicability to an underserving opponent then the possibility of a "name and shame" thread is something that i think it would be wise to investigate more thouroghly.

Well now, that IS an interesting & thought-provoking Post, full of good points.

You are right. The witch-hunt thing is not what we want. And one or two of the more exciteable Members seem to have forgotten the no-flaming rule, it got a little "hot" a few days ago, & I was forced to ask them to cool it.

But, if someone says "hope you die of cancer", or any of the dreadful things that we increasingly see in Online text-boxes, is it really flaming to name them? We don't have to be rude to them, or get personal - just state the facts. "abc123 said this on that site" sorta thing. 

We do need to think this through I think. But report them to Support - yes - EVERY TIME!


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: action man on May 05, 2006, 12:23:47 PM
jon, just laugh and think what a small minded person this guy really is, I have had much worse than this in the past, and still get the occasional "i hope u get run over the next time you cross the road"  these people don't deserve mentioning in my opinion, just let the poker do the talking,
                                                                                                                                    choi


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: RED-DOG on May 05, 2006, 12:56:57 PM

   
Only harmless words, just laugh at it. I do it myself sometimes, "hope you get hit by a truck" Just harmless banter :rofl:

If you have ever lost a loved one to cancer you might think differently. People who say things like “I hope you get cancer” or “I hope your mother dies” are, imo, nothing short of criminal, believe me, in some circumstances words like these to someone who has suffered this sort of tragedy can hurt more than a punch in the face.

I think it is vicious, deplorable, and cowardly. I always INSIST that something is done about it.

I have to agree that sometimes it's not easy to persuade certain sites to take action; you have to be really determined and prepared to put your self out. Fortunately, I’m good at making a nuance of myself.

My advice is

1: Make a copy of the chat by highlighting it in the chat box and then pressing Ctrl+c

2: Paste it into a word document so that you have a permanent record of it

3: Paste it into an email and send it to the site concerned

4: Follow it up with a polite but firm phone call to the most senior person you can find at the site, i.e., a poker manager or a supervisor

5: Make sure you get the name of the person you speak to so that the next time you call they can’t say they know nothing about it

6: Ask to be notified of what action is taken

7: Ring back regularly to check progress

8: Don’t accept the “Sorry, it wasn’t one of our players, it must have been one of the other skins” excuse. If it wasn’t their player, they can find out whose it was

If all this sounds like a lot of trouble and a real pain in the backside, your right, it is.

Please take the time, make the effort if you can, I promise you will be protecting a lot of your fellow players from more hurt than you will hopefully ever know.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Highstack on May 05, 2006, 01:37:53 PM
That sounds like a far more sensible approach Red.

Without access to the chat logs it is difficult to prove what was actually said. I am not suggesting for one monment that Blondeites, would report inaccurate information, but it does leave it open to criticism and I don't really think this forum is the place to name and shame, after all, what can that achieve?


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: AlrightJack on May 05, 2006, 05:40:52 PM
While appreciate the problems associated with naming and shaming, I feel that if sites are not going to do anything about it, naming them on a forum thread is fully justified. Perhaps such a dedicated thread might open the eyes of certain poker software providers/networks and eventually result in more action being taken against abusive players.



Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: Sark79 on May 05, 2006, 06:25:23 PM
Hi mate, I was wondering, have you seen the moron player who said this before or since?.

 Sorry if you have already mentioned this in an earlier reply, I couldn't see it anywhere if you have.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: AlrightJack on May 05, 2006, 06:47:28 PM
No, as I'm in Blackpool now at the Bonanza festival and haven't been playing, but if anyone wants to find him he plays $1/$2 six-handed limit games.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: mex on May 05, 2006, 08:11:38 PM
i would Thank him for the donation towards my fund for treatment.


Title: Re: Crypto player
Post by: jezza777 on May 05, 2006, 08:28:22 PM
These guys are cowards. Saying to someone" I hope you die of cancer "is reprehensible. I lost my father to cancer and if anyone said this to me I would go into a blind fury. I would certainly insist the poker room I was playing at took measures against the player.  People saying "oh just ignore it " are wrong IMHO if you stand by and allow this sort of behaviour you are just as responsible as the cretins who propergate it.