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To add a little excitement as I know a few people had an investment in me (ok, its not that exciting!), this was the last hand that I played in the event...I will not say if it was early or heads up to win...yet!

Everybody had folded to me on the button. I had TT, pre flop raise to 150 (blinds were 25/25) I was re raised to 500. Funnily enough, just the night before I read something about a very similar situation with TT (in Dan Harrington book) and he said to flat call! I did.

Flop JT2. He bets out 250. This seemed low so I am guessing he missed the flop. Probablyhe has AK. 2 clubs on board. So,  after a long think, I decide I will risk one card, as long as it is not a queen, and hopefully not a club, I will be fine and make my move after the turn card.

The Turn card was the Queen of clubs. Gulp. Again he raises 250. After a long think, I decide to re raise as I certainly can not see another card. I re raise to 600.
He takes what seems like an age to re raise all in. It was another 500 to me. IF he held AK as I suspected, I could have up to 19 outs as I also held the Ten of clubs. I was also getting pretty good odds so, I call (I still had about 450 of the 2000 starting chips left).

He did have AK. I did have 19 outs! I missed them all.I was out. Unfortunately it was very early in the tournament as well. Sorry!

I was relatively pleased with how I played it but, it was not to be. It was however a lot of fun. My hat goes off to Presentable TV who organised the event. It was a great experience, just a shame it did not last longer.

Thank you to all that gave money to Poker4Charity, sorry I did not make any money for you.

Simon

Bad luck Simon. I doubt anyone could get away from that hand. :(

Did they tell you when your heat will be televised?

reminds me not to slow play sets then!!

hard luck, I hope you enjoyed the experience. Any idea how Ali Cheesman got on?

just had a giggle reading this

playing in a sat on a site that jsbc knows well

and raise preflop when flop gives me nut flush draw and 2 over cards its checked round to me

i put in the full raise (PLHE) and get reraised by sb with short stack who could only just make the full raise giving me huge odds for my draw he flopped a set of 3s i runner runnered a straight

if the guy had bet out on the flop instead of drawing my large stack into the pot i problery would have folded

Yes, fair point ironside. Thing is, when you hit such a big hand, you have two choices. Do you try and milk it( remember I was heads up) and take the risk of them hitting the cards or, put in a big enough raise to win the pot there and then but not maximise your profits. Upon reflection, there is certainly a strong arguement i took the wrong option. There is also a very strong arguement I did not, even though I am out. Given the same choice again, I would play it the same. He was only 16% to hit his hand. Most of the time (errr....84% anyway) I will win the hand. This time it was not to be. Even with him hitting his hand, I had a tremendous amount of outs. Not sure I can work out exactly what the odds were after the flop though (I obviously know the odds of 16% but wager in the fact that I could then hit any of my 19 outs after him hitting is). Either way, great experience. Not sure how Ali got on although I think I was told she missed out on the final.

Another fine example of Dan Harrington messing up another players game.

My advice to anyone who owns that book, is try to trade it in for Skalansky's Tournament poker book, or burn it.

? rubbish, in my humble opinion . If Simon had raised the bet on the flop he would have, I expect, won the pot there and then .

I don't see anything wrong with raising to 150 and then flat calling the re-raise very early in the tournament.

Calling 350 with only 1800 back, when its a re-raise with TT is not a good idea in my opinion.

He is almost certainley a bigger pair, and do u really want to be calling of that much of your stack in the blind hope of hitting a set? Its not clear whether the re-raise came from the blinds or not, if it was a raise behind then its even worse.

I think folding TT here would be the best idea.

i read it as a raise from the blinds, so Simon had position thereafter

whatever, we can agree to disagree

A re-raise that size from the blinds means big pair too me, but yes we can  ;)

Just making notes.."If Royal Flush in pot and your in blinds reraise him! Easy money!" :D

One thing that you are not taking into account Royal Flush was the previous two plays. I mentioned I thought he was on tilt having been reraised off the pot. Also, the preflop call WAS correct. I WAS in front. I was indeed in front after the flop. Also, with the greatest of respect, I happen to think Dan Harrington is one of the best players of our generation. If he thinks a call to a reraise is correct with TT, I will listen.

Preflop I was 57% fav.
After the flop I was 87% fav
After the turn card I was still 43.2% to win the pot.

For the record, I spoke to Jesse May about this, he believed if I had raised after the flop, the other guy would not have laid down anyway. Of course we do not know this. As I said before, even thinking he had AK i believe I had to call. Although to be fair, you are not disputing that.

Either way, we all play poker differently, that is the beauty of the game.

Remember, when I flat called, he was only 12.8% to hit his queen and win the hand. Surely you would not want to lose this customer? Again, maybe you are not debating this part of the hand either.

Simon "The Aces" Trumper was also commentating and I would be very interested to hear his thoughts, if he is reading this, as he saw the hand in real time, the build up to it. etc.

Finally, I certainly do not agree that a re raise pre flop signifies a big pair. If you believe that, then surely you have to say it was a great read on my part!?!? LOL. As Tight End correctly says, the blind was the raising and yes, I had position as well. Finally, I had 2150 back, not 1800.

I thought u started the hand with 1850. 500 pre flop, 250 on the flop and 1100 on the turn.

One key point i overlooked was that this was a button raise, which does completley change the hand.

Having now noticed this i would agree that you should call with TT here, as the need for him to have a big hand to raise back here is less.

And of course if we KNOW he has AK then you should always call.

i think you did the right thing on the flop, and you just got unlucky, and even more so when you failed to improve on the river.

Hi
I had picked up a few blind before my somewhat hasty exit. (I think I mentioned I still had 450 left). Either way, we have digressed slightly, the story was not meant to be a bad beat or anything, just "one of those hands". As I said, I had a great time and it was worth the experience. I would love to do it again. Thanks also for the comments, positive and negative about the hand. With handsight, i probably would plat it the same again although clearly a raise after the flop MAY have won the pot for me then and there.

So you did....note to self : wake up before posting.

Sounds like you had fun at least :D And got some money into the P4C coffers :D

Hi Simon

As this was one of the early heats i can't fully recollect it , if you played it as described i don't see much wrong . Obviously all we as players can ever do is based on the circumstances of the time , if you were in positon you were correct to flat call pre flop , on the flop you could have raised and hope he had AJ and moved in , i would however risk a free card to the flush , it's hard to put it down if a Q falls on the turn as AK is unlikely with his bet on the flop unless he is representing an over pair as preflop reraiser and hopes you also have an A you will pass , on the turn once he bets i would probably move in , even if he has AK you have a set and a flush draw , however as i say i don't fully remember this one , obviously we will see it on TV and you will hear exactly how i felt it should have been played , i hope you enjoyed the experience , all the best .

ACES

Hi Simon
Thanks for the reply. The only comment that I know you made was that it would be a good play if he went 'all in' over the top of my re raise (he did!). I was told that afterwards by someone who was listening in the holding room. It was a great deal of fun and a real thrill to play.
Simon