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I know leeds have been a shower of ***** for a few years now but I am getting really worried. This last week we sign some muppet from Millwall, then another unknown muppet from Luton, and today to top it all off we agree to sell our best player Rob Hulse.

10/1 for the title, it really should be 50/1

Welcome to the world of "football survival". As a Charlton fan we went through many a year where we had to sell all our best players and buy bargain basement and unknown players whilst trying to bring as many home grown youngsters through the ranks - all just to keep the club afloat.

Have the right board along with the right manager who know how to control the finances and who knows where you may end up in 5-10 years time.

Yep but it still hurts and unlike Charlton, Leeds are a massive club steeped in history. This ain't a pop at Charlton, they are my 2nd club but there is a difference.

We have now sunk to an ALL time low.

Acid, Im a sheff utd fan. Does this sound familiar if on a slightly smaller scale than the events that ruined your club?

We are on the verge of promotion and pay 1.7 million for Akinbiyi, our record signing
we sign a player for 1 million that the manager doesnt like and is desperate to get rid of, Horsfield.

On getting promoted we break our transfer record on Claude Davis (£3million), who was the guy marking peter crouch when he scored his hat trick against Jamaica.
We have now signed another striker for around 3 million that has not exactly set the premiership alight.


The club has worked tirelessly for years to maintain its financial footing and we then decide to spend about 9 million on that collection of players. Would that lot strike fear into any premiership team?

We need a lorra lorrra luck to survive this season.

kevin nicholls is a good signing for you.

the fans will soon warm to him very quickly because he wears is heart on his sleeve and is a tough tackler.

he is a 100% and a leader and can also play abit definetly enough for that division.

i think youl change ur tune about him very soon after seeing him play.


face it leeds are a small club now and until they get out the division always will be so required players to get them out not big name stars. if they get promoted thats when they need to be buying big again.

Leeds...  5 years ago were in the champions league semi final

sad sad story

Horsfield is a god, worst thing Bruce ever did was sell him.

Can't you just get some of the local girls to play as defenders...buy their rugby team new strips or something.

Well I could ask my wife, she played for Leeds Utd ladies, till Master Bates cut ALL funding for then, a massive 3000 a year.

The bloke from Milwall will prove to be a good buy.

Yeah he moved to Hull without playing a game for us :P

think leeds have found there level or they might still need to go down a bit more lol

Bout time they sacked him, really clueless and has spent loads of money on average players. Lets hope curbs comes in to save the MIGHTY Leeds!

Ahh well. We wont go down and we wont go up. Weve only lost to the better teams so far.

Its not as bad as most people say, even the debt is just about clear.

New Manager, consolodation, then maybe promotion next year?? Easy.

Curbishley, Wise would be fine not hoddle or keegan though.

Leeds are NOT a small club now. They just got relegated, they have shit players, but they are not a small club.

is there a reason you have took nearly 2 months to comment on something i wrote back then nem??


leeds are a club steeped in history but cannot now be classed as a big club. they get less than 18,000 at home games whereas a team like charlton get mid 20k would you call charlton a big club?

Leeds will always be a big club and bigger then the likes of Charlton and half the other prem teams whatever division Leeds are in.


Lots of reasons why Leeds average 19000 this season, mainly due to the fact they are crap and the cost of watching is at premiership levels.

Ken Bates cut ALL local community tickets the City got given when he took over, stopped the subsides for OAP season tickets and basically made it very expensive for a typical Northern city. With all these measures he brought in it cut 10,000 people stopped coming right away. *Clever man this MR BATES*

The factors why Leeds will always be a big club is Leeds is the biggest city in the UK with just one footy club. The history and the fact that if we start winning we will get 42000 attending, week in week out.

Charlton struggle to get full houses of 30,000 in the top flight, same as Bolton, Wigan, Boro etc etc etc.. If you simply cant get decent crowds in the top flight then your nothing more then a small club shooting above their station.

23,000 glory hunters

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Nah most just cant afford it now.

I have just seen this thread

If Leeds were in the Premier League they would be getting 40,000 every week like they did a couple of years back. If Leeds were in the top division, they would definitely be a top 8/9 team (size wise)

Not worth it Nem he got proved wrong and made a little joke to cover that fact his post was piss poor and had no substance.

I disagree that the supporters cannot afford it though. They would just rather spend their money on something decent! ;goodvevil;

Well without the exact figures available the number of OAP season ticket holders must have halfed at least now they have to pay over double the cost from two years ago, my Dad being one. East stand upper used to be full of old people :P

in your mind i was proved wrong but not necessarily in the mind of others. thats what debate is about isnt it?differences of opinion.

why u feel the need to describe my posts as piss poor i dont know but if it makes you feel better then continue.

as for lacking substance then maybe you should look a little closer  at your own posts which contradict themselves.

you say that the reason the crowds are low is because people cannot afford it then you also say that if they start winning then they will get 42k there!

what they gonna do let em in for free?obviously in the premiership and winning will cost more to attend so how they gonna afford it then?

Bates took the support for granted. The result is current low attendance.

Most of the supporters can afford it, but they know when they are being stiffed.

I said the crowd size was the combination of many things, not just one, a winning team, cost of tickets, promotion. The cost of watching Leeds has basically doubled for many fans since we went down and Bates took over. People are obviously going to pay more or be willing to part with their money for a better product.

But the whole point of your post was based on the size of the crowd watching a team determines if a club is BIG or not. It clearly does not because of a number of reasons outlined.

If you can justify to me why half the premiership clubs are bigger then Leeds in term of stature and not just based on crowd size then we are getting somewhere.

I would describe anyone trolling threads and making posts that lack substance and general background knowledge piss poor, its just not you.

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This argument is silly.

How do you measure the 'size' of a football club, and why does it matter anyway?

Tape measure.

I use a 6 inch ruler for Villa, seems to do the job.

tighty i will not be posting on this thread again as there is no discussion to be had.

You should be happier now that Ellis has left.

The future looks good

you sling em on a table and get a ruler out

mines 4.5in

I watch the Leeds Rhinos. Have you seen the size of a Rhino's horn?

In The Belly's posts on this thread are an absolute joke.

We are still a massive club, its just the ticket prices are ridiciulously high so no one can afford to go.

I echo everything AcidMouse has said.

I have hundreds of Leeds supporting friends who used to be season ticket holders, but now there are no student tickets and the prices have risen by nearly 70%. The reason for this is that Ken Bates gets the same amount of income in average if not more, as the 19,000 who will pay high prices (like me) cost much less to steward and police.

Look at how we took 50,000 to the Millenium stadium, whilst Watford took barely 19. Look at the fact that its a one club city.
Your so wrong. If we got a few players in who could kick a ball, a decent manager and if the prices compared to someone elses and not just Chelseas and youd see a near full stadium every week.

Leeds sacked their manager today also.

Sad state of affairs.

Acidmouse,

Did you watch the Rhinos game tonight?

As a Warrington fan I thought that was the best we've played all year.  Much more exciting than football IMO.  Briers must get a call up now, what do you reckon?

I'm slowly giving up on football and the absolute muppets it attracts.

Yes I watched it, how we managed not to win this I am still trying to figure out. 3 tackles to go Leeds instead of going for the dropkick right infront of the sticks try and score a try?!?! and 2mins previous when he kicked the ball through clear why didnt he just drop on that dam thing?! grrrrrr.

Briers will get the headlines but Warrington played well as a team, very exciting game.

Pity Leeds Rhinos are now an average team. The city is dooooooooomed.

I did bet on warrington to win though, it always eases the pain :) :blonde:

Here too, well... I laid Leeds at 1.22 but bottled it at 16-16 and got out.

Rhinos are still a top 5 team.  At least you have had recent silverware.  Try supporting Warrington for the last 20 years!  ;izimbra;

Cracking game.  Hope Salford can turn over Bradford tonight.

I think Salford have cracking chance on the evidence of the Bradford vs Wakey game recently. Least all the Salford staff are Leeds fans :)

Brilliant win today. Actually played good football and beat top of the league after all.

Maybe Carvers the answer  :dontask:

Hopefully minor blip and look forward to you at Kit Kat Crescent in 3/4 years........ :D :D

Leeds now went back to their wicked ways of getting battered. Least I backed Stoke nice odds to.

I fear they're bound to bounce back though when the Foxes come to town!   ::)

Odds on you beat us this week. I lumped on an Away win after my friends told me how bad we were on Saturday vs Stoke.

If Master Bates dont hire someone fast we will find it hard to get out of it.

O'leary to return? Souness? Mcallister?

Hope its someone within the next week.

Apparently the landlord of the commercial was saying that mcallister is a done deal.

Free money ATM betting against Leeds. Best tip on the forums currently/

I noticed the stand is now covered in yellow advertising for a skip company - surely that is a little close to home at the moment. The News of the World website has a phone video of bates giving a speech to some fans - it was brutally honest!

Well it looks like Wise is coming in. Mixed feelings really.

The few Leeds fan at work all hate his little smug face, but I guess anything that can help Leeds atm is good.

Hope people lumped on Southend tonight, lovely price and quids in again 3-1 up.

What price were Southend??

I had a bit of Leicester and was going to back Southend but didnt get round to it. Obviously wish i had now.

Does the betting stop for Saturday though? Teams always seem to do well under new boss in first game

Dunno about Saturday, you would hope we would actually play well under a new boss. I will most probs leave this one alone. Hope you enjoy the game :)

Taken me some time to discover this thread,and kinda glad i did, first things first ,whether leeds are considered a `big` club ,or `bigger `than charlton is quite frankly irrelevant,you are who you are whether your top of the premiership or at the foot of the nationwide,peoples teams meen just as much to the individual as anyone elses team (ok possibly with the exception of the asian reds lol).
Recently went to leeds game with a friend and his 5 year old ,was told if kid took up membership he d get reduction on ticket price ,friend decided kid wouldnt be attending too many games (because of price),so declined the membership result being we had to pay 34 quid each (including 5 year old kid) so i can genuinely appreciate the `cost `argument,much more worrying to this is it wont end at leeds,kids being priced out of a lot of grounds around the country and that is very sad,football sold it s soul to sky many years ago ,great coverage but it increased the overpayed players egos even more than the obvious increase in bank balances.
 
Blackwell slipped up by 1, playing healy out wide (scores for fun of late for n i )
                                2, failure to play richardson   (why ?,he was on way to becoming a quality r back or even central defender)
                                3,geting rid of  danny pugh ,again quality and `young `
                                4, should have played blake in midfield behind front 2 ,great ball player use him !!
                                5,should have tried out a few youngsters ,if there from leeds at least they will play with passion .

If mr blackwell had done any or some or all of the above leeds united would now be in mid table safety and mr blackwell may still have been in a job,iits ok having all the coaching badgers in the world but seems kb got tunnel vision at end of his tenure and refused to admit his mistakes and carried on in a pig headed i know best attitude ,instead of giving a bit of ground and seeking sound advice .

One day leeds united will be back hopefully in the premiership and debt free ,it may take a long time ,or we may get the `structure ` we need much quicker ,whichever i will be there,but cant blame and do feel sympathy to the people that have stopped going ,hopefully they will return .

anyway you want a sports bet that s been in profit last 2 years ?,back wakefield wildcats on handicap all season and i reckon for third year running you will see a profit ,
regards .

                                                                 

If we dont win our next 2 home games, starting today against Sheff Wed we're good as down.

COME ON!!! Please, ONE TIME!

We're F**ked then!

come on 2 goals in 2 minutes, ill take a draw lol

Dennis Wise has today sent all players out in their cars and instructed them to use their mobiles....this way hopefully they can somehow pick up 3 points....

(http://i18.tinypic.com/47lo6lt.jpg)

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THATS WHY YOUR GOING DOWN
THATS WHY YOUR GOING DOWN
THATS WHY YOUR GOING DOWN
THATS WHY YOUR GOING DOWN
THATS WHY YOUR GOING DOWN
THATS WHY YOUR GOING DOWN


UP THE OWLS

FY. You had about 3 shots, we had 20.

But your players can actually score.

It's just not meant to be this season, no luck whatsoever, crap team, crap Chairman, lots of in fighting, the list goes on and on.

Saying that I would rather be a Leeds fan than most of the Prem teams whatever division we end up sinking down to.

Looking forward to the big Yorkshire derbys in a couple of years...

York City vs Leeds Utd.....

Would be fun, most people in York support Leeds anyway :P

!!!!! LEEDS UNTIL I DIE  !!!!!!!

Some sort of wierd magic from now til end of season can keep us up

COME ON THE WHITES

We are gonna get 3 points against Luton

A Good Point, but results elsewhere make Saturdays game away at Southend the perennial 6 pointer in my opinion.

GLORY OR DEATH. on Sat.

What odds can you get on Leeds staying up?  I reckon it'd be worth a flutter.

Can't fuking believe it Southend winning every week, Hull on form, Leeeeeeds so so need to beat Southend.

All or nothing on Sat

You know what really annoys me. It's all these so called "experts" who say it will be a sad day for football if Leeds go down. It won't be sad it will be brilliant. Tried to buy their way to success five years ago and now are paying the price. And how anyone could have any sympathy for a team with Bates as chairman and Wise as manager is beyond me.

If only Ambramovich would see the light and leave Chelscum in lurch and they go the same way!

The only bad part about Leeds getting relegated is they will certainties to go up next year and that will mean one fewer place for the R's to go for...

You have no sympathy for us fans whove had to watch them go down from the prem and now go week in week out to cheer them on at the bottom of the championship?

We didnt ask for Risdale to spend loads of money, ok we didnt complain, but its made the last 4 years hell for me (in footballing terms) something thats very important to me and my friends, and most of the people in this part of the country are Leeds fans so feel the same way.

And ill still be there when we plummet down to League Two next year.

I don't have much sympathy for supporters who rioted at Loftus Road on the day QPR won promotion to the old Division One in 1983. It was/is by far the worst violence I have ever seen at a football match.

I think most will be happy if Leeds go down *and if all the lowers team keep feking winning they will*

I agree though with Wise & Bates I hope if we get relegated they go back to where they came from, not wanted up ere.

Those days are long gone mate, you need to move with the times. When i started watching Leeds in 86 the flag was on sale and the Leeds fans were racist twats (mainly). Now it's a different story, racist thugs are not tolerated and I doubt if any from 83!?! still watch Leeds.

Holding grudges against a team coz of some fans behaviour 25 years ago kinda lame.

cool ref gives up penalty in the last min then changes his mind all of a sudden...typical.

Clear handball aswell

:)up

WERE STAYING UP

Great game.  Deserved the win overall, but were damn lucky that Nugent and Ricketts couldn't finish their dinner.

Nice to see Healy score for Leeds eventually, does it for fun for NI.

You'll stay up...

SHIP THREE POINTS TO LEEDS YOU FISHY BEAUTY

Well give you a good send off at pride park :)

Still think we'll struggle to stay up. But we wont be going down without a fight. And thats all we ask.

What a game. I went as always and couldnt watch the last 3 mins, had to go down to toilets and block my ears. Everyone went mental at full time, it was sooooo mint.

CMON.

Why?

Because you'll be going up to the prem and we'll be staying in the Championship?

Thought so ;)

Was it your round?

:dontask:

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Must have been

lol casino went mad when we scored in last min, i managed to watch last 15 in poker break, Unitttted...unittted.

Brilliant, would have been good, bet Cyril was jumping round the room.....actually no, he never EVER changes his expression does he!

Would loved to have been at the match

Great victory, thank fuck it was Ricketts on the end of the cross, Gray played well, although we had 6 loan players in the squad, im sure we got fined for that last time

Massive games coming up Plymouth and then Burnley! Jeez 6 points from those and we could be looking a little better, Come on the Whites!!!!

2-1 last min again!!!!!!

Get in!

Maybe getting a bit of luck when we need it most! ;cheerleader;

Told you Leeds would stay up... ;whistle;

This Huddersfield fan seems to disagree.  Some people have too much time on their hands.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyA1p3hiR_w&NR=1

They'll stay up.

Mighty leeds put in their place by humble Colchester LMFAO  just go down and disappear into obscurity.

Arent you a Colchester fan?

Will you support them and go see them in the prem???

No, to be fair, we'll defo go down. But we will never fade into obscurity.

8 mins all we needed to hold on for, sick.

Some people don't support their local teams....but suddenly do when they play Leeds.....it's so easy to hate...

No, i dont support colchester, I only moved here a few years ago, so I have no allegience to them at all.  I am a Spurs fan first... and a Burnley fan second.

I dont hate leeds... i dont like them purely for the fact that They tried to buy success under O'Leary ...and got caught with their pants down.   Remember how Leeds fans were giving it the big 'un when they had shitloads of money and were doing ok ??   well now its payback time and although i feel sympathy with the TRUE supporters who will follow their team regardless of the league they end up in, I have no sympathy what so ever with Leeds United as a club.

Bankrupt in 2 years for shizzle.

Yes one days you will know what its like to get success and give it "the big un's". :)

I dislike Spurs becasue of what Sugar did and how he acted 465 years ago..and I hold that against the club forever.

And thats why you should never have any debate with leeds fans .... ;)

FYP

We will welcome the 1500 leeds fans at pride park. Bring your ear plugs.sold out already

We'd bring 150,000 if we were allowed.

But your not. We are letting you have what you give us this time 1500. Roar on the Rams

They said that at Bournmouth :) we should have bet how many get in!?

We are not Bournouth mate :)

No shit. But i bet if the game is important to leeds u will get 5k+ in there by fair means or foul.

Another home win, but Barnsley have won, at least Leicester have been dragged into it, just our goal difference keeping us in the bottom 3

Real scandal steve bruces son gets rams keeper sent off but we dont b---h. should be a real great game last match of the season

Shame we will win it to confirm our place in the championship if we havent already by then

Gibbo youre dissulliusional. We have to play away at Southampton and Derby and home to a very good team in Ipswich.

We're going down, but we cant blame Wise or the players. Weve won the last 4 home games, and 8/12 games home and away. We're 2nd in the form league behind Sunderland and we were 4 points adrift at bottom 6 weeks ago and good as down, so to still have a chance of survival now is brilliant. The 4 best players are Kishishev, Michalak, Ankeregen and Gray, the players Wise brought in. Hes a hero, and he wont give up.

And even though im an eternal pessimist, theres still hope.

save the gloating for the end of the season mug .... ;)

So when Leeds beat Ipswich at home at weekend and Cardiff beat Hull it will be in our hands at Derby. I already got 2 tickets for the game, wonder how many other's will get in for the 'sold out' game.

£200 for the pair???

If we beat Ipswich this w/e and Hull dont win obv.

You know when you get on that lift at the start of your shift downt'pit ??



Well it goes in the direction of your team .... DOWN !!! 

and???

I probably agree, but dont play so nothing i can do about it. Ill still be there for the first home game in League One.

I actually think that to still be in it now is incredible as we were rock bottom 4 points adrift 10 games ago but weve won 4 of the last 6 games.

Actually ( but dont tell anyone) i hope you do escape ... would be a great achievement.

Found on youtube.

I suggest Leeds fans don't look...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyA1p3hiR_w

amazing what powerpoint can do with some music.

what a bizarre end to the match, looking hopeless now for Leeds now.

 ;letsparty;

Sad day for leeds but we will be back.

lol as a Londoner & R's supporter living in Yorkshire I did'nt want to wave a celebrartory balloon

but heres to QPR's survival  ;letsparty; :cheers:

HARTLEPOOL on a tuesday night :). see you all at Pride Park

we will be back....


I hope...

left too much to do, too many decisions simply went against us, and we also played really bad most of the season.

I must admit I wasn't particularly happy when Gregory came in... but  ;hattip; to him... the signings of Cullip and Bolder have been crucial and we actually played pretty good football in surviving.

Getting rid of Bates and Wise would be a great start on the long road back. Good luck.

Leeds until i die

We will be back!!!!

Just wanted a few local games for a change....

West Yorkshire police say they are struggling with their investigation into yesterday's crowd trouble at Elland Road. 

Despite searching the whole of the Championship they were unable to find any Leeds.

Sorry, couldn't resist that!

Actually, in all fairness, I've been watching some of the footage of the pitch invasion submitted by Leeds and Ipswich fans.  It was at least heartening to see how much abuse the idiots were getting from the majority of home fans.

Looks like quite a lot of the phone-ins and forums were taking calls from the real Leeds fans, embarrassed by the actions of this minority.

We all have our share of idiots at our clubs, and they're a disgrace to all our teams, so good luck to the real Leeds supporters on here who will stick with their club through thick and thin.

Grrr, Gibbo, i knew by re commenting in this thread, youd leave us open to abuse.

All i can say is, ill be there at the first game in August, as always. Not much else i can say.

FYP

STFU obv

Heard rumours that Leeds are going to go into administration before next weekend. The 10 point deduction will happen this season.

Creswell leave the sinking ship quick, get back to Yorkshires capital club...... ;hide;

most are out of contract, on loan or will leave for peanuts.

New team totally.

They could do a Wolves and get relegated again next year, once a club is in freefall it's very hard to stop.

I think they've fallen as far as they're likely to.

Our first season in that division after our last relegation was one in which we went into administration, had a period of a few months where we were not totally certain of being able to complete our fixtures, were asset stripped by our 'saviour', and played for most of the season with a caretaker manager operating with a transfer embargo in place, meaning he could do virtually nothing to improve the squad.  Despite all this we managed to avoid relegation (although it was closer than we would have liked) and we started from a far worse position, squad-wise than Leeds are likely to.

Therefore, even if all the talk of administration proves to be reality, I can't see them dropping further.  It may affect their ability to get back up at the first attempt (which, as Forest have shown, is not the easiest thing in the world).  The only thing which might affect this is if they start the season with a 10-point penalty, although Rotherham showed signs of overcoming this at one stage prior to selling all their best players in January.  The biggest problem Leeds will face is the natural expectation from everyone (fans, management, and particularly the media) that they will return straight away.  It could adversely affect the players who are probably unlikely to be used to such pressure (I'm not sure if this was a factor this season or not, as on paper the squad had enough quality in it to survive).

The difference between the Wolves experience of the 80s and nowadays is that each drop in division has its own 'quality gulf' which makes a drop through the leagues very unlikely unless there are financial issues affecting the ability of a club to operate properly.  Even in a 'worst case' situation of administration and loss of the remaining 'big name' players such as Healy, Thompson, etc I can't see any realistic likelihood of a further drop (and this is ignoring the fact that Leeds have the potential to attract a big-money investment to accelerate the revival process). 

I know from all-too-recent experience, just how much of a bugger it is to get back out of that league.  However, I've also seen how its possible to survive another drop in the bleakest of circumstances so I don't think the prospect of any further fall is realistic, no matter what happens next.

Dont think hell be good enough to make the grade at Middelsboro  ;)

U know when they announce ticket prices for next season? gonna grab a few season tickets and try and catch some away games if Bates leaves :)

LOLOLOLOLOL I knew if i said i wanted them to survive I would bok them :D :D :D :D


off to oblivion with you .... and rightly so :)

suck it up kev, miners got bragging rights till next BB

Good bunch of lads, took plenty and gave plenty ..... still a bunch of soap dodging northern coal mining mugs though :)

and shite at footie! ;)

Leeds Leeds Leeds

Administration before the season ends, so finish bottom this season and not be -10 at the start of next season hopefully.

Just heard.  Leeds have gone into administration.

Just read about it on BBC Sport

ken bates seems to have rebought Leeds back from himself  :dontask:

So it seems with 2 others according to sky sports news

I hope the football authorities don't fall for this obvious ploy to avoid losing any points that will actually hurt them.

The 'lose ten points for administration' rule was brought in after Leicester fiddled things to make their debts disappear without losing anything. If Leeds don't start next season on -10 it will be yet another travesty of justice in football.

I think the FA will know whats going on but they arn't going to do anything which is good for us

It's almost as if Leeds have thought to themselves "There are a few football supporters somewhere who don't yet hate us. How can we make ourselves even more unpopular?"

I just dont get why it bothers people tho? what effect does it have on people bitching?

lol. We enjoy being hated tho.

'Leeds - the Millwall of the North'

Yorkshire teams = crap. York were shocking in the play offs......

Aye they were poor, not going well for us locals. I used to go watch them when i worked in York. :(

Went to play offs at Wembley in 1993 when they had a superb team, much the same team then did this:

http://www.yorkcityfc.com/history/manua.php

Todays team were a million miles away...very sad.

yer, pretty sick, some of my mates support York and we were gona go down for the trip and day out and drinking down to Wembley.

Shite season for me, Leeds down, Second team Charlton down too, ffs.

i dont know what leeds fans are complaining about, being a glasgow rangers fan id bite your arm off to be in league1. for 1 reason, one day, we ll play in the best league in the world.

Well I was going to purchase a few season tickets for next season but it seems there going to be the same price :P Brent you go your renewal through yet? difference in price? Maybe best waiting for new owners to takeover whoever this may be.

No idea mate. Ill try and have a look at the renewal forms etc. this weekend when im at my Dads.

Im in the fortunate position where he'll buy them for us without mentioning the price. So i dont have to pay.

Hoping to make lots of away games also.

I might see you tonight, not sure yet.

Ahh k, I fear they gonna be same price. Will be making a few local away matches also just to stand and reminisce

I am fukered cant get lift sorted to get there on crutches, so DtD $1 +$1000 added currently with 7 runners will have to do :(

season ticket prices

And now...the end is nearrrr....

I see the appeal against the points deduction has been rejected. I'd feel sorry for them if I could stop laughing

and they have just signed up Alan "Start a fight in an empty hoose" Thompson as your new club captain....

Well all they have done is sign up all the people already at the club.

Hopefully we stick a few past Tranmere tomorrow!! Shame we'll still be bottom of the league till OCtober

minus 15 points.......ken bates brought nothing but trouble to leeds  ;kneelsucker;

-12 We pwning, last min goals :)

-6. 3 wins in 3!

Leeds had 1st half then were lucky to hold on in 2nd. We never stop until the end tho!

I lumped on the whites so happy :)

Yes, Leeds probably deserved all 3 points, never gave up. Can't see them getting over the 15 point handicap so it will most likely be the play offs for them. Forest could finish anywhere on current form.

Aye playoffs at best I would take that now. But winning at Tranmere their only loss, beating the league favorites away sure gives us hope.

Hey hey!

Well I'm another long term Leeds fan, and for the first time in a long time, I'm enjoying sitting down listening to the football! We're actually winning matches for a change and this is what everybody needed. We're in a league where we're jsut too good, which is exactly what should happen with Leeds United being in League One (no offence to the other times.. but then again they all voted against our penalty reduction so hey.... what goes around comes around? :p)

Definitely playoff's, but in a months time we could already be working our way well up the table. If thats the case, we might only be a few games away from the leaders, and if that happens we definitely have a good chance of top 2! Especially beating decent league one sides in the manner which we did. If we can win games while playing poorly, then when we play well it should be easy :D

Luton and Hartlepool. Once those games are over I think it'll be easier to predict where we'll be this season. If both are nice easy wins, then we might have a nice easy race for 1st. Maybe I'm a bit optimistic but I do hope there's some realism in there? :p

It will be really tough to win the next two games. I will be there on Saturday, they are expecting the largest crowd in div 1 history.


Leeds vs Forest was the largest crowd outside the prem at the weekend.

I'm fairly sure that when Sheff Wed and Sheff Utd were boith in div 3 (now div 1 lol) and played the derby the crowd was around 48000

Don't think acidmouse was saying Saturday's crowd was the largest ever just this weekend  (outside Premier League)...

More at Elland Road at the weekend for a division one game then Chelsea's home game in the Champions league.

ROFL  ;ifm;

Amazing Result.

LETS DO THIS PLAYOFF SHIT ONE TIME!!!!

Sheehan for Ireland (thanks Rich).

Also, we (Skybet) are betting on how many points we (Leeds) get back - http://www.skybet.com/skybet?action=GoEvType&id=10003868

Sheehan is Irish

We signed him as a 17 year old thanks to a scouting link we had in Cork

Great left foot..can't defend much

Doing well for you guys? doesn't look like Holloway wants him back either

A trademark free kick I see!

good for him, nice kid.

Still praying for a Wembley visit for Brighton.  :)up

I just feel a little sick we let a lead vs Port Vale go a few weeks back.

It's getter close now and we play all the top teams over the last part of the season, 2 points might mean we miss out on the playoffs which will be an absolute disgrace.

I heard we didn't play too well last night and still got the win, good signs!

Was at the Leeds V Brighton game on sat, both teams did well, an entertaining 0-0, if there is such a thing... Leeds should have more than Tranmere & Brighton to get the last play-off spot (assuming the top 5 are done, swans, carlisle, Donny, forest, southend)

Got a feeling it will be Forest V Leeds in Semi...

What do you think to this tho ChipPrince? http://www.skybet.com/skybet?action=GoEvType&id=10003868

Please no, remind not to go out the day of the forest home leg.

I think it would be very unfair on the other sides at this late stage of the season  ;)

I also think the committee will agree, I cant see them getting any back to be honest...

That'll be a picnic, I might have to go Millwall V Leeds on the 19th...!

some of my mates are off to that, They must be mad

Well......they are.

Finally my bet come in today 6/1 that beckford / kandol would get 30 goals + this season between them. :)

Saw this bet myself (was around 10/1 then though), mentioned it to Horneris too. I decided not to back it, ffs!

NH tho.

Am sure that would be a nice friendly day out ...

10 points back this week and a win over Hudds tomorrow = 2nd place! One time.

Paddy Power offering 250/1 Leeds finishing 2nd.

Not bad considering they are 2/1 to get 6-10 points back this week.

I doubt if in the T's & C's whether the 250/1 would be valid for a points return...

What odds Leeds to end up 7th 14 points behind second place  :)

http://www.swansonline.net/news.php?readmore=1083

lol, another club obsessed with Leeds :)

They ain't champions yet, and will not be handed the trophy on Saturday under the football league instructions.

Maybe they know something we dont :)

What's the latest with the hearing about the 15 points? 

People are saying its all the points back or nothing now. 60/40 chance we get nowt.

The more clubs start complaining the more chance we have of getting the points back as they are running scared. The Doncaster chairman has already spouted some shit about something he know's nothing about. "How can leeds break the rules" yadda yadda etc etc. Erm what rule did they break?

I blame the league and Brian McDickhead for delaying this until the very last minute. This could have all been sorted out before Xmas if the league had not refused to acknowledge the need for an independent tribunal. I mean making the clubs vote on the points deduction is like asking a cat if they want more food?

Surely if Leeds lose and Swansea win they will still be given the trophy this week?

You think the clubs would vote on giving leeds back the points? rofl

League 1 clubs Highest Attendances
Swansea City - VS LEEDS UNITED (7,000 higher than av. gate)
Carlisle United -VS LEEDS UNITED (9,000 higher than av. gate)
Northampton Town - VS LEEDS UNITED
Crewe Alexandra - VS LEEDS UNITED
Bristol Rovers - VS LEEDS UNITED
Tranmere Rovers - VS LEEDS UNITED
Doncaster Rovers - VS LEEDS UNITED(9,500 higher thn av gate)
Luton Town - VS LEEDS UNITED
Gillingham - VS LEEDS UNITED
Hartlepool United - VS LEEDS UNITED
Walsall - VS LEEDS UNITED
Oldham Athletic - VS LEEDS UNITED(5,000 higher than av. gate)
Bournemouth - VS LEEDS UNITED
Cheltenham -VS LEEDS UNITED
Brighton & Hove Albion - VS LEEDS UNITED
Swindon Town- VS LEEDS UNITED (8,000 higher than av. gate)
Port Vale- VS LEEDS UNITED
Leyton Orient- VS LEEDS UNITED
Huddersfield- VS LEEDS UNITED
Millwall - VS LEEDS UNITED

Going to be a big crowd for the gills game, sold over 35k so far, not bad for League One

20,000 ticketless leeds fans heading for this Friday's game. Last home gave vs Gills is now a sell out near enough 40k

Where you got this from mate?

Waccoe forums!


Paul Scally (Gillingham chairman) "I don't need to hide behind anonymity or a secret ballot. I voted with the League's board and I think I was right to do so. "

LET'S MAKE SURE WE RELEGATE THE ******** it be so so cool if we sent them down.

20,000 heading down to Yeovil on a friday night?  lol

Yep I know, I did the same vs Bournemouth when we went up about 18 years ago with my dad! Climbing tree's to watch a game 4thewin!

Why oh why oh why would 18,000 ticketless fans travel 200+ miles after work on a friday to one of the smallest grounds in the league located on an industrial estate?  Think someone is having you on my friend...

lol. If we could actually win promotion i think it would be right and id go aswell ticket or no ticket, but as we;re jus in playoffs, i think itll jus be the usual 2,000 away fans in smalll ground.

wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

lets dooo this

It would be f-ing quality if we relegated Scally & won the league next weekend! Just relegating that twit will be a joyous occassion.

Vinny Vinny Vinny!!!

Wrong decade Pensh...sigh...

http://www.youtube.com/v/N3L0RlBVz-0&hl=en

I just want to go to Wembley, it would be an absolutely amazing day.

Pls 1 time get thru semi's.

Current league placings you get Forest in semis so you should be ok :)

Just heard from my Dad, who has heard from someone 'reliable' that Leeds are going to get all 15 points back - and it should be announced today.

If that's right, you heard it here first.  If it's wrong, blame Horneris.

I also heard that, been reading WACCOE and it keeps on crashing, im not gonna hold my breath though

F*ck it, they can have them now, only Donny in 2nd...       

1 time.

Lol... Bad reports IMO..  ;)

Didnt see Millwall, told them to watch Howson for Leeds, he goes off and runs the show, then Mulgrew for Southend smacks in a free-kick last week which 2 of us had covered, how shite...

Southend in play-offs im afraid...

lol Waccoe forums so so slow :)

Man I hope we get full points back just to see Mahwhinney's face, the dirty little tory rat.

Didnt see Millwall, told them to watch Howson for Leeds, he goes off and runs the show, then Mulgrew for Southend smacks in a free-kick last week which 2 of us had covered, how shite...
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Bad manager and coaching staff then ?? ;whistle;

Bad manager and coaching staff then ?? ;whistle;
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Small squad mainly, as soon as the injuries came its been downhill...

Is it going to be chaos at saturdays game?   sell-out?

I think there is about a 0% chance we will get the points back.

5pm Thursday - they will announce the verdict then. Confirmed on Sky sports

Deduct them another 10 points imo.

:goodpost: ;iagree;

 rotflmfao

How shambolic would it be at this point in the season to give them the 15points it makes the whole season pointless imo.Leeds are a massive club and i'd rather see them in the prem than a wigan or a boro but to play a full season then get 15points back at the end just seems ludicrous to me results would surely have been different if they hadn't have lost the points.GL in the playoffs.

Blame the league for ignoring Leeds attempts to get it resolved independantly for 6 months.

I agree its silly to not have to sorted at such a late stage but who really gives a fuk if doncaster or some other shit club does not get 2nd and Leeds do?  their chairman can whine like little bitches all they want but they are cluless on what happened and their anger should be towards the league not Leeds.

The taxman are doing the same to other clubs and preventing them from coming out of admin, so there is atleast 3 other clubs who pray we get 15 points back :) But then again atleast they will know that there is a punishment for it, unlike the one the league made up for Leeds.

Any whispers?  Whats the book price on points back?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/7375942.stm

So they might get some of the points back.  That would be ludicrous though.  That's like saying the points penalty was sort-of wrong.  Surely it has to be all or nothing?

Definetly. Abs no point getting like 5 back. As you say, its either right or wrong, so should get 15 or 0 back.

Its fun that we've been deducted 25 points over the last year tho for going into Admin when every1 else just gets 10.

ChipPrince, last i saw it was 4/5 for 0. And summat like 11/4 for 15. With prices also for 1-5 and 6-10.

We wont get them back obv.

6hrs till we know....

4 and a half.

;whistle;

And you may soon have a certain blonde haired striker/midfielder back if you do get the points today, or get through the playoffs.

(http://www.leedsfans.org.uk/leeds/images/TCurrie1.jpg)

Surely it would just be saying you broke the rules but maybe the punishment was harsh?

I think in Italy the 3 or 4 teams that were docked points/relegated all appealed and had their punishments reduced but were still guilty of braking the rules.

This Man imo.

I must admit to having a bit of a soft spot for Leeds United.During School and my teen years ,my best mate was a Leeds supporter (Fav player Arthur Graham) so i often accompanied him to watch them play.Although they had a reputation as a dirty side during these years,they could also play some great football. My question to you Leeds supporters....who would be in your Greatest Ever Leeds Team (1970-Present day).

my selection...

Keeper           Nigel Martyn

Right Back       Paul Reaney
Left Back        Terry Cooper
Centre Backs   Jack Charlton / Norman Hunter

Midfield           Gary McAllister / Billy Bremner / Peter Lorimer / Eric Cantona

Strikers           Allan Clarke / Joe Jordan

It would be unfair of me to do one as they are out of my lifetime and i never got to see most of them play.

But from the videos iv seen and things i have heard:

I think you would have to include Eddie Gray tho for definite in midfield.

Paul Madeley and Gary Sprake would challenge too.

In my lifetime itd probs be:

Nigel Martyn

Mel Sterland
Tony Dorigo
Jonothan Woodgate
Lucas Radebe

Gary Mcallister
David Batty
Gary Speed
Gordon Strachan/Harry Kewell

Tony Yeboah
Mark Viduka/Lee Champman

but is very much up for debate.

Yes it is mostly dependant on which era you actually watched them as that influences choices more than viewings of clips from past decades.As with all "Greatest Ever Teams" they are entirely subjective,just thought it would be interesting to see what selections people come up with and if there are any "stand out " names.
Thanks for your selections,some very good players there.

...and Lee Chapman.

Leeds won the last-ever league title before the creation of the FA Premier League, with Chapman as the Division One top scorer in all competitions. :)

Hold on, rightly or wrongly you were deducted 10 points last season and then 15 points this season for your second'offence' inside 6 months. The 'we got 25 points when everyone else gets 10' is wrong. You got 25 points for 2 seperate cases.

Oh, he certainly scored a fair few.  But the best Leeds have ever had?  Also, what's going on with his missus' lips!!??

Incorrect. But i really can't be arsed explaining it to another person.

lol

If you talking about Leeds best ever player then you have to seriously look at John Charles. He would play equally well in both center back or forward positions depending on what the team needed. My Dad tells me of matches he would start upfront and score a few goals and then in the 2nd half go back in defense to see us through the game. He went to Juventus and was worshiped like a God, one of the very few to this day British players that has gone abroad/Italy and done well.

Saying that the best players I watched 86-Present defiantly has to be when we got promoted and won the league the year after. Our midfield was the best in the land: Macca, Batty, Speed, Strachan.

Platini stated just after John Charles' death that if he were playing today he would be worth in excess of £70millon...

no, only since like 1990, like i said.

Well, you said in your lifetime - but bloody hell - it's almost the same thing!!  You've just made me feel very old.

2 h 15m

Leeds United were deducted the obligatory 10 points at the end of last season for going into administration, we have no issue with that and accept that fully.

We were deducted 15 points for failing to exit administration with an Company voluntary agreement (CVA), as a result of a challenge by the Inland revenue to how much they would recieve. They had 28 days to appeal the CVA and chose to do this within the last half an hour of the final day of the 28.

The Inland revenue stood to recieve more from Leeds proposal then they had from any other team that had entered administration. The football league, who stood to regain ALL money owed, also rejected the CVA.

So on it dragged, with Leeds fans and staff not knowing from one minute to the next whether we would have a club or not. Throughout this time, we were also placed under a transfer embargo which meant we could not sign players....and the players we did have on trial werent sure if the were going to be offered contracts or not, but still remained committed to playing friendlies.

At the last minute...days before the season started, it was announced that as Leeds had had one CVA rejected, they could not acquire another. The Football league were not helpful at all in this matter. They "Preffered" Clubs in administration to exit it with a CVA in place, however there was no rule in place that said this had to happen.

The Football league, as a result, decided that Leeds could have the Golden share, required to be able to participate in League duties and to allow transfers, but only because of the exceptional circumstances involved. They deducted us 15 points for breaking a so called rule that did not exist.

You dont get deducted 10 points with the proviso that if you do it again you dont get another fine. This is what you did and were fined another 10 points for failing to provide the correct financial assurances. 10 pionts for the first offence and 10 points again for the second offence, the only real issue is can the FA then add another 5 points on top of that for (as they see it) attempting to flaunt the rules. So it would be ridiculous to now say that we are giving to whole 15 points back when you have effectively been in 'administration' at some point this season. Thats what happens to every club that breaks those rules.

It would be amazing if you got anything other than the added 5 points back and as there is quite rightly some question as the legality of taking those extra 5 points that would seem to be a possibilty.

Aye that sums it up nicely Brent.

What really pisses me off is that the league have done everything in their powers to delay this and cover it up from day one. They have hidden behind votes and rules that simply do not exist.  There pretense that Leeds were the villains actually worked for a while, but even now all the papers recently had to retract stories that Leeds broke the rules and deserved the 15 points deduction. Its amazing what having money and the facts can make papers do?

Not even the day before the arbitration took place a few weeks ago would the league acknowledge it was happening. There aim was to delay and delay this as long as possible so that it was too late for anything to happen. This worked to good effect last season with the Tevaz affair lets hope they have the balls to tell the league how wrong they were and give us back the whole 15 points or nothing at all.

You are basing your argument on the league having a rule 'that coming out of CVA without having 100% backing from all parties' was against the rules and you would recieve X amount of points deducted for it.

They didn't they made it up for Leeds.

Sigh WACCOE forums slow but they say a leak has said 10 points back.

Just someone winding ppl up obv. Lol, its soooooo slow. Can hardly get on it.

How Horneris summed it up is how i understood it from my mate who's a home and away season ticket holder.
He said that the football league could have witheld the golden share but to save themself a massive court case (lol) they just punished Leeds with a 15 point deduction.

what does waccoe stand for ?

We are the champions, champions of Europe!

Not a Leeds forum then obv.

No, but it is.

Why is 10 points back 'sigh', thats puts you up!!

I sigh coz forums were so slow.


Setanta Sports News live feed.

http://www.football.virginmedia.com/page/Live

Not long now....

1 timeeeee

lol Can't believe they are actually waiting till 5pm.

Heard it might even be 5:15...

fuck off football league

failed appeal

lol pwned. Well we got to do it the hard way...

wehay comedy.

No shock. Wonder whether that was the true decision or worried about what would have happened if they'd got them back....

We'll never know.

Good luck Leeds. Hope to see you next year.

Quite a good reason for nil points actually, "It would be harsh on the other clubs"

Bollocks im off on tilt on GTA and shooting anyone or anything that goes past me

lol im guessing the 20 pg document had a few more reasons than that.

JUSTICE imo ldo fk your lives ;)

:goodpost: ;applause;

All we need now is an ironside post and we got all the Leeds haters out of the way :)

 :) yes, because we could see the big picture and the Leeds fans seemed to think they had been wronged when they hadnt we must all hate Leeds eh??

Nope just people who wait till we got fukall and then post on the thread to rub it in :)

Leeds -15 points













FACT

lol traiter. cnt blame u tho.

oh be fair, i posted that i wanted you to lose even more points ;)

lol ;)

Just wna confirm i never posted this, it was LeKnave on my account. So ban him all you like, fkin douche.

No shock at all. I was gona get LeKnave to lump on 0 points at 4/5 with (us) Skybet, but couldnt bear to do it.


WEMBERLEY, WEMBERLEY, WE'RE THE FAMOUS LEEDS UNITED AND WE'RE OFF TO WEMBLEY.

lol, checks posts on thread, cant understand post, puts it down to bitterness coz his team got what they deserved, wonders why football makes sensible people react the way they do.

 /:-| /:-| /:-|

Did I miss something?

Ahh well its only a game, everyones entitled to an opinion :)

To be honest Acid I hope you win the play offs, I got a lot of friends and family supporting Leeds and its a pretty cruel way to get beaten. I can't help but think that Bates could have avoided the deduction if he hadnt been playing silly buggers, a little like Sheff td may have got into the play offs if the Chairman had been brave enough to realise what a mistake he had made by appointing the Shit Robson as manager and then played a around hoping he would resign before eventually sacking him.

A few weeks more to the season and we might have had a chance too.

Nope, just the old bill on the beat ;)

ahh I see, are you the old Bill that used to be on the credits when the Bill came on, the one with the big truncheon that used to walk funny??

 :o

Yes, i was the one in the skirt.

I used to fancy you xx

excuse me?

Im not a bitter 1, its not like we had the points in the first place so its not like we lost anything.

I just think its stupid that they give us the ridic hope that we might get the points back when we clearly wouldn't.

nvm, lets just win the play offs 1 time plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

From the report, the main reason Leeds lost appeal " LeedsNEwco signed an undertaking not to challenge the 15 points deduction in return for receiving the golden share"....quite funny really, lets hope we get up auto and Leeds luckbox the lottery which is the play offs..

PS
Not a "Leeds hater" either. If it wasn't for Leeds, Cloughie would never have come to Forest and we'd never have won the League, 2 European Cups, 4 League Cups etc, TYVM Leeds :)

Might aswell have had a gun to Bates head "Sign this or no LUFC"

I really don't understand why there was even an appeal allowed to be have wtf was the point when they knew this doc had been signed so nowt  cud happen what a waste of  like u say rich it's a joke they give u the hope of summit happening when they clearly weren't going to change out what another excellent show by the joke otherwise knowing as the F.A

You are spot on but the only people that made noises that Leeds might get points back were the club and the local media that were obviously fed a few lines now and again. It defied all logic to expect the full 15 back, as said before the only point was were the FA legally allowed to 'add' the other 5 points on for what had been a 10 point penalty. Leeds only  had themselves to blame for breaking the rule twice in less than 6 months.

Will Leeds be the only team to be docked 15 points for this offence?

I think so, as the football league will change the rules again over this, I suspect Bourmouth, Luton etc wont start next season -15.....Justice eh.

Acid,

You were docked 10 points the same as everyone else, you got the extra 5 for the way you had behaved and for not making any attempt to provide the correct financial information in time. The clubs owners must have known they would get another 10 point fine but didnt do anything to avoid this, so why would they expect to get a points deduction overturned, what circumstances had changed?

If those clubs are in administration next season they will get 10 points, if they try to deceive the FA or fail to provide the info and guarantee in time they should get 15 for the same reason Leeds did.

The only people you should be annoyed at are the board and chairman.

No their 10 point deducation was last season.

This was an additional 15 point deduction.

What he said above me.

3 other clubs did exactly the same as Leeds and came out of CVA not 100%. So the point is, not that if Leeds should have been docked another 15 points (the arbitration said it was justified) but that they should be punished the exact same.

Me thinks not.

eh? 10 points last season for breaking the rules. 10 points this season for breaking the same rule and an additional 5 points this season for the way the club conducted themselves and making no attempt to provide the correct info in time.

Coming out of CVA without 100% is not the same rule as going into administration.


They were not deducted 10 points this season for coming out of CVA without 100% and another 5 points for being naughty, it was -15 points for not having 100% CVA.

Exactly the same situation as some other clubs... Each time the taxman has decided to be a **** and not play ball with some clubs, rightly or wrongly. So the real question is.

"Will the other clubs who have got themselves into the exact same situation as Leeds receive the same punishment?"

I think not, as Brian Mc******* in a recent interview for radio Leeds said they will look over and review their policy and discuss with the taxman how they deal with football clubs coming out of CVA. Leeds were given a few choices, relegation to Div 2 with no points deducted or start in Div 1 with 15 points off. I do hope this is the deal offered to those other clubs.

Oh well it dosent matter now,

lets just give 100% in the playoffs and if not just win the league next year.

Plz Plz Plz Plz wembley.

i dont think the playoffs should be at wembley

Why shouldnt the playoff final be at Wembley?

We will get 50,000 easily.

You wont get 50k tickets tho, 35k each...

OK, the questions to Trigg remains unaltered tho.

If Donny get to the final surely they won't take up 35K?

When Wednesday won it at Cardiff we had 40k and Hartlepool had just under 20k

Oh i think Donny or Southend could definately get 35k, its amazing how many fans creep out of the woodwork for such games...

I believe when we lost to Watford a few years back they had 20,000 fans show up Leeds had 55k with 220k applications for tickets, lol

This game??           http://www.bbc.co.uk/threecounties/content/articles/2006/05/11/leeds_watford_playoff_final_2006_result.shtml


Says 30k ish each, total was only 64,700

220k??? lol

Was that the YEP estimate or 'Look Leeds'??

30k ish ticket allocation but half the Watford stands were filled with Leeds fans. I know I was one of them :) shame Watford could only muster 20,000 people to support them on such a big day.

220-250k applications on depending what site you google. It would be good to get the official figure from Leeds United.

Wow the way you guys are talking it looks to me like Leeds are getting a bye to the final.

Two games to play guys and although Carlisle blew auto promotion with a shit run its all to play for now.

Maybe your good run has now come to an end and its gonna be another year of super leeds in league 2.

Cmon the blues.

When did we get relegated again?

Oops just wishful thinking here.

Yeah, i dont like it when people do this.

Im one of the most pessimistic people around and ive felt so much dissapointment following Leeds home and away in last few seasons, and no doubt i will again in the next couple of weeks.

I don't think it will be easy to beat Carlisle over two Legs, but the signs are at least encouraging.

You have the best home record in the league over the season, Leeds have the 2nd best home and away record.

But of late you seem to have totally lost the plot when auto promotion was there to be won.

Current form:

3        Leeds        Played 6 won 5 Lost  1
18    Carlisle    Played 6 won 1    Drew 2 Lost 3

Form suggests you should win, but these games are very much "throw form book out" situations. I just remember our PO last year two nil up from away leg, you know what happened next.

it shouldnt be at wembley because better teams than leeds who have played better football wont get a chance to play there ever. I dont buy into this 'big day out' sentiment, i think it shoudl just be at a neutral venue. However since it is just a money spinner no wonder its at wembley.

I guess with this logic you are against any final at Wembley apart from the FA Cup when the top two teams in the premiership are competing against each other. Makes FUKALL sense.

Thats jus stupid tho.

You need the biggest stadia capacity wise in the country for playoff finals and cup finals etc... and thats wembley.

cup finals yes, play off finals no imo

I see your point,but i've been to 4 play off finals at Wembley and they create a better atmosphere than any cup final,because all the tickets go to the 2 clubs involved. Arguably a bigger prize as well.

Ahh well their keeper seemed to pull off a few good saves but Leeds were shite. I guess it can only get better for Thursday.

Shame Carlisle couldn't even sell 2000 tickets for the game at Elland road.

We were terrible. Going nowhere fast.

Robbery that we got a goal to keep us in it.

Horneris et al

Westwood kept us in the game with 3 magnificent saves.

I was disappointed with your goal getting there (six ***** minutes added on  ;grr;) but hey ho its football.

I live in the far north of Scotland and work keeps me limited to the number of games I get to see but Thursday is one I cant miss (plus Im gonna play at the Grosvenor tourney in Newky).

Obviously Im wanting the Cumbrians to take it down but hope you and other good Leeds fans get a team and owners that deserve you and you dont languish in the lower echelons for too long.

True.

Although just seen highlights of Beckfords and Freedmans shots in 1st half, they were better saves on tv than what i thought

Come on Leeds you can do it tonight, wembley is beckoning (hopefully)

1 time, just 1 time plz

WOW... WP Leeds ..

UL Carlise and Dwayne..

ul carlisle

Good Luck leeds

Shib it to Leeds. 

Wem-ber-ly here you come!

yessssssssss, thats how we rolllllllll

lets do this

WD Leeds, GL in the final

Its ok, itl be funnier watching them lose @ wembley (the worst thing ever).

lolololol.

great win, gl in the final (thinly veiled get out of Leicester's division post)

Well Carlisle were poor tonight and Leeds deserved it, see you are  Wem-ber-leeeeeey.

Leeds v Donny wtf are York? ohhhhhhhhh

Here in Spain bunch of Pontefract lads went mental...i guess late goals are the key...

welll done Leeds... hope they get promoted.

OH MY WORD.

im back from Pub, i cant believe it, i actually cant believe it.

WHAT A GAME, WHAT A PERFORMANCE, WHAT A NIGHT,

I dont EVER remember being this happy. I LOVE MY LIFE. THATS FOR ALL THE OUTDRAWS. FK YOU WORLD.

Im off to fkin wembley, WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.

OI OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!

(UL Dwayne mate, but you were right about Howson being the key)

wembley wembley were the famous leeds united and were off to wembley

OI OI!

Congrats to u leeds boys gl in final

Football doesnt half hurt sometimes, but gl Leeds at Wembley...

leeds deserved it, played much better

Feels so so good.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyDZm8aJNHo

Leeds United UK Tour 2007-2008
Last Stop - Wembley!

(http://i27.tinypic.com/28gt72s.jpg)

well played, Leeds were the better team throughout the second leg. Good luvk at Wemberleeeeeeeeeee.

Just back from looooong weekend which included Carlisle - Leeds.

Not sure if this is bitterness even after a few days to get over it, but although you were better than Carlisle on Thursday you aint gonna move mountains.

Its gonna be no walkover for you at Wembley.

See you next year.

I don't think Leeds fans are under any illusions about the task at Wembley. Donny are a decent team and we got lucky winning at their place a month or two ago. But we are the 2nd best team in the league, we have a better record and are on a better run. Optimistic is more the current mood rather than complacency.

Obviously.

We'll probs lose. But i still cant wait.

You going to the game ? think leeds will do it when you score last minute goals got 2 think it's your year gl

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swansea_city/7410610.stm

probably the stand-out attacking midfielder in League 1 this season, great signing...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/7412793.stm

and the other 1 is available on a free!!!

Hmmm controversial Commons is a life long Forest fan and has been their best player for the last couple of years. Going to cause a few waves in Nottingham me thinks, especially if he goes to Derby.

Kris Commons is a class player. A bit lazy and not the fittest but great on the ball.

Well by the sounds of it yesterday was a right mess up in terms of Leeds selling the rest of their tickets for Wembley. People starting queuing days before and camped outside Elland road.

Leeds in their wisdom didn't cap the number of tickets people could purchase, so some people were buying 20+ tickets for other people. This news spread and panic struck and alot of idiots starting jumping the by now 6,000 queue.

Leeds refused to offer any water or provisions to people that had been standing for 20+ hrs, by this time people had begun fainting, passing out and in need of toilets etc. Leeds reply fcuk you, there is a burger bar over there and a public toilet X metres away, yeah so i lose my space in the queue? With very few stewards and little control is starting getting nasty and the now growing police presence were clueless on what to do.

Not once did anyone from Leeds come out and inform people on what was happening, offer help or try and calm the situation. Typical really, but its sad that this was to be expected.

Now the whole games is sold out for Leeds 36,000. Doncaster have sold as of today 18,000. Their chairman has offered 6-8k more tickets to Leeds but the Football League say nope you cannot do that. The remaining tickets that doncaster have for the game can only be purchased by people with Doncaster postcode! and who are on their database?! lol. This was the result of Leeds fans purchasing donny tickets all this week. God knows how many Leeds fans will be in the away end, also its sad that the game will be 3/4 full when they could have filled it 3-4 times over with a little better planning.

If he signs for Derby he should sell up and never step foot in the city again. A so called Forest fan signing for Derby is a huge no no! I still have a sneaky feeling he will end up at one of the clubs promoted to the Prem this season though.

Obv not used to big games.

Wake up and smell the coffee, "Loyal Footballer" is an oxymoron ..  look up "Judas" in the dictionary and you will see a pic of Sol Campbell and many more money grabbing, couldnt care less Pro footballers.

21/10 Donny 90mins? Going to put 50 quid on to ease the pain if they win :(

9/4 is massive.

Like Berbatov when he leaves you mean?

Berbatov has never told the fans that he is a spurs supporter through and through and wants to stay at the club forever ... berbatov like 99% of all players these days is just a football mercenary, to believe anything else is quite simply naive.

To be fair to Kris Commons, I don't hes ever pledged himself to us and if I was in his boots a contract worth approx £1.5million over 3 years I'd play for Derby too...:) I certainly won't be booing him if he does next play at the City Ground as a Derby player.

I don't think you could hold it against them though. Its a completely different market to what it was in the good old days.

If clubs manage contracts properly they can limit what they are open to losing from footballers seeing out their contracts.

Stop hijacking the Leeds United thread plz.

Just keeping the thread warm til Sunday when we can abuse you and praise Donny :)

I agree that most footballers are knobs but to be fair to berbatov you can't blame him if he wanted to leave spurs to go to the likes of man utd ac milan and teams like that spurs aren't guna win the league while he's playing and are unlikely to even be playing champs lge football so its not always just about money.Torres is a good example of this seen as although he left madrid his home team to go to liverpool which some probably think was about more money he actually took a paycut by going to the scouse boys so he could be playing more competive football and play in cl.

Apologies to Leeds fans if it all goes wrong today as I have just backed them to win.   :D I backed Bristol City yesterday so on a 0% roll this weekend.

Leeds FTW

;goodluck;

Do it for Macca.

ffs, we have no chance now.

Could be worse, i could back them then we are guarenteed to lose.


LETS DO THIS LEEDS,1 TIME PLZ!

Just rang Bandit ... he is on Leeds FTW.

Unlucky chaps ... still you get to play Leicester next season :)

Gl leeds boys today, leeds win it 3-1

Doncaster on top easily for the first 10 minutes.

Two brilliant diving tackles by the Leeds keeper. 

The Leeds fans sing their anthem, Marching on Together. Quite a few of them are in the Doncaster end.

LOL no surprises there then

Goalll

doncaster worth the lead, leeds pretty poor in the first half

And not much better in the 2nd....

"Leeds freeze on the big occassion shock horror"...thank fck I had a bet on Donny on Betfair today as Leeds have busted my play off bet.

Unlucky Leeds.  Threw everything at them in the second half, just lacked that cutting edge in front of goal.

Sullivan was class in goal for Donny

Unlucky leeds really expected them to win it today you no u will get automatic next season but still ul lads.The life of a football fan really can suck at times (something us geordies no better than most).

bugger, wanted Leeds up.

Well done Donny. Who would have thought it, Donny in the Champ and Hull in the Prem.

Had such a bad feeling about this and in the end the better team won.

I thought me winning over 500 quid on Doncaster would ease the pain I was wrong :(

London and Leeds should be fun tonight. Thankfully I'm not in either.

Ive never been so gutted. I was struggling to hold back the tears coming out of the ground. I knew we had no shot tho, good things never happen when it matters. It was jus so so obv.

Even before the game you could see all the Leeds fans jus stood there worried knowing what was about to unfold. Just like 2 years ago. We were jus waiting for them to score.

The weirdest thing was after the game. The 18,000 or so Doncaster fans didnt even seem that bothered, they just insta came out of the ground not celebrating, barely even smiling, and i was like "wtf". It seemed like it was only a day out to them and they were happy to win but that was it.

I woulvde given anything to win. Leeds fans wouldve been in the ground for at least an hour and celebrations wouldve been crazy. It means everything to us, to me.

Oh well, roll on the first day of next season, ill be there again, to continue the pain. I fkin love pain. I hope we thrash MK Dons, i hate MK Dons for what happened to the Wimbledon fans. Bring on Leicester.

The weirdest thing was after the game. The Doncaster fans didnt even seem that bothered, they just insta came out of the ground not celebrating, barely even smiling, and i was like "wtf". It seemed like it was only a day out to them and they were happy to win but that was it.

obv too bloody scared to celebrate with all the Leeds fans about.

You are spot on tho Brent, to Donny its great to win but its not THAT important. To Leeds and its fans this meant the world. Ahh well I am sure all the Championship clubs just loved them going up along with there 7k average home gate and 200 away fans.

This is one thing that really pisses me off in football when you get clubs whos fans just dont really give a fuk whether they win or lose and its just something else to do but doesnt really affect there life.I despise wigan being in the prem cause there support is pitiful but they aren't they only team in the prem like this middlesboro are definitly another 1. I wanted leeds to win coz i no they have great set of support and there fans deserve it more but football just never seems to work out like that

For me football is definitly one of the most important things in my life (dont really care if this is sad or not) when we lost to blackburn up here a couple months back a was absolutely gutted and sat in my seat for ages after the game welling up and close to tears as i thought we were going down.I went for one drink afterwards and then just left as i was just to miserable to even sit and drown my sorrows.For some reason some fort it may be amusing if newcastle were to have got relegated and made out as if our fans deserved it but this is totally ludicrous, people read so much shit in the papers about newcastle fans which is absolute bullshit yet they seem to believe it.Why any proper football fan would want a team like newcastle who yes may expect more than we  should sometimes but which clubs fans dont at the end of the day our support has never waivered we are without doubt 1 of the best supported clubs in the country and although we probably wont win out for another 50 years we'll still be a big club as far as our support goes.

Apologies for the rant and hijacking the thread Leeds United will be back in the top flight soon and i look forward to a visit to elland road.

Good Post, Newcastle have great fans.

No offence though both of your posts don't actually say it, basically your saying these small clubs don't deserve it cos they don't have many fans. I can assure you to the hardcore Donny fans this meant as much if not even more to them as did it to Leeds fans, with smaller clubs when they get to Wembley they get hangers on where it is a day out.


Getting snobbish attitude to the fact that you deserve cos you have lots of passionate fans is precisley why alot of people find it semi amusing when you fall flat on your faces. If it was about having big crowds, Norwich would have been promoted the last 3 years in reality we have been rubbish and got what we deserved.

rotflmfao

During the Premiership years Newcastle have been a very well supported team but you only have to go back to the 80's to see some very average turn outs by the toon army. Its always easy to turn out in big numbers when your in the top flight but a few years in the lower leagues sorts out the men from the boys.

For some reason Newcastle was always my favourite away day we spent the weekend up there and the boys always had a blast! we actually had some good results at SJP which always helped the cause.

Nope you have got it wrong, no one has said they don't deserve to go up. Nothing wrong with lesser supported teams doing well but Donny is not a passionate football town, it has hardly any hardcore fans where this actually meant more then a day out for them. If stating the obvious is snobbish so be it.   

10 years and 2 days ago I was at one of the greatest games seen at the old Wembley and by a long shot the greatest game I'd ever been at. It was also one of the best days of my life. the game finished Charlton 4 Sunderland 4 and we took it 7-6 on penalties. we celebrated like fk in the ground but as we left everyone went silent.

the journey there was like a party, no idea how the tube didn't derail as it rocked from side to side jam packed with both sets of fans singing and jumping up and down.

the journey back however was so subdued, barely a word was spoken on the tubes back to Charing X or the trains into SE London. then we hit the pubs and watched the re-run, again in near silence, at least until we got to Rufus's goal and the penalties, a truly surreal experience.

we had 40-45,000 fans there that day and all were in complete shock on leaving the ground at the game that we'd just witnessed and what the result meant to us  and emotionally drained from the ups and downs of the match.

however the result meant the world to us, nothing was more important at the time, it's just that we were unable to celebrate, a very weird feeling.

I'd imagine much the same was true of the Donny fans this weekend

I love this arguement coming up time and time again. If you look at the actual figures there is like one or two season ever where the average attendance is less than 20k. Don't have time to look back but I put a post on ages ago after looking at the stats. There was a year where we went down and attendance went up.

There were other massive issues in the 80's in with the collapse of industry and unemployment of adult males as a result! Yes there is always going to be an element of attendance being linked to performance but I think you'll find the change in the economy of Newcastle is a far bigger factor than anything else. (perhaps also facilities at the ground too) If it was on performance the ground would have been empty a couple of years ago.

On Leeds, and in fact the playoffs across the board people just seemed to edge with the names rather than the teams on form. I hope Leeds do get back to the top level. There was also a cracking atmosphere against dirty Leeds and living here now will give it an extra edge. Hopefully they can push n next year, but its going to take 4 or 5 years to get themselves steady in the PL again.

Leeds fans, as a point of interest - would you change the great times you had up at the top of the league and in the CL semi finals for just being an average PL side throughout the last few years?

But what i was saying is that they just genuinely didnt seem extatic when theyd won. They were jus smiling and streaming out, they didnt seem that happy/extatic/going mental about their acheivements. Im not sayng they dont deserve it because they are a small club. Theres nothing i love more than getting a club like Scarborough into the Premiership on Football Manager 2008.

Leeds were in better form than Donny coming in to the play offs and had won more points over the season than them.
They just didn't perform.

Leeds won more points in the season because of what they did in the first two months of the season. Over the last three months I think Doncaster will have won more fairly comfortably. From what I saw of Leeds, and what I hear from mates who go to see them home and away, Leeds have been putting in poor performances for ages - with the exception of the carlise away game - even if results held up to let them scrape in.

Sack the manager imo  :)up

Just had a quick look
3 months from last game of season backwards  -
Leeds played 12 and got 26 points
Donny played 13 and got 21 points

Football is such a brilliant game because different people see different things. My mates who go home and away said they've actually been playing well recently after hitting some poor form since the turn of the year.

Edit: Sorry it's 2 months figures but i reckon 12/13 games is a fairer reflection of form than 17 games

3 months -
Leeds Played 16 Points 32
Donny Played - 17 Points 30

Come on rooky your making it look like us geordies dont no what where going on bout ...

My previous posts weren't saying that the smaller clubs dont have a rite to be in the prem they do and congratulations to them on that just that id prefer a team like leeds in the prem who have the support there instead of a team who will have half empty grounds and fans that dont give a shit.

LOL, Sorry! Only two points in it though, they certainly appeared to play better football! I always prefer to look at a decent period of time/number of games. Too many variables in less than at very least a dozen games imo. Not only then a measure of form but also a teams calibre!

Like I say I was also going on the basis of a few hardcore Leeds fans - but even amongst them there can be difference based on what they like to see.

I don't think the overall point that people just expected the big name teams to turn up and win is changed by that though.

Personally i would say current form is last 6 games max 4 me we are good example of that when kk took over we were out of form took 1 point in 6 games or summt like that and we were a team out of form and looking to go down then we won a few an had a decent little run and you could see we were a team back in form again.You can't really class 16/17 games as being a form basis they could've lost 5 on the bounce and won 5 on the bounce in that spell but you couldn't say theyd always been in form coz of how many points they had.

Yeah, I don't think I described what I meant very well.

I'm trying look a bit wider than the usual form. That run of games that we had was a tough run of games - I think 6 isn't enough to get a rounded reflection so that an tough runs can be evened out with softer games. Also I think our performances picked up well before the results, but we'd still be classed as being out of form.

All teams have a bad run at some point of a season, proably for about 7/8 games or so, I think taking a bigger number helps give a better reflection on the the teams performance. I suppose often they'll be the same thing.

fk last season!

Seems a bit quiet on bringing players in to Leeds, he must have to clear out some first before bringing any in.

WTF is Kewell on about saying he left Leeds on good terms? I don't see much point in hating someone but hes pushing it blatantly bullshitting in his TV interviews.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2008/07/will_leeds_march_on_to_promoti.html

Sad fred.

Leeds are a great club and one of the top 8 teams in England. They should be in the EPL but instead we have Stoke and Hull :-(

Bump. Leeds on Sky for the big game vs Rotherham awayl in the cup.

top 8 do me a favour!!!!!!

footballs on the pitch nowhere else im afraid

BS.

BAN plz.

go easy im on me last warning lol


truth hurts im afraid  ;D

Leeds are a bigger club than Tottenham FACT

anyones bigger than tottenham imo lol

here is a quiz question for you mugs ... name the last London team to win a trophy ?

Man Utd

Sigh, they are from Guildford .... that aint in London !!

Sorry, my mistake.

yeah but u didnt make a mistake leeds are bigger than tottenham lol

only just but they are both the biggest low life clubs in the land from achelsea fans perspective followed closely by westham

+1

Top 8 according to League titles...

Liverpool
Manchester United
Arsenal
Everton
Aston Villa
Sunderland
Newcastle United
Sheffield Wednesday

Spus, Chelsea, Leeds nowhere to be seen...


Top 8 according to overall trophies...

Liverpool
Manchester United
Arsenal
Everton
Tottenham Hotspur
Aston Villa
Chelsea
Newcastle/Man City

http://www.nufc.com/2008-09html/attendance-all-time.html


all time attendances.

Only chance they'd have at the big time imo

We are the only club who would get 20k attendance at a St Johnston paint trophy 2nd round game :) sad but true.

what is the general admission price at Leeds ?

And how does that compare with other grounds in that division ?

It was a massive local derby V Bradford, compared to 10k v Palace the week before, still imprssive support tho...

Brighton Have the worst Ground in the division yet they charge the highest prices and they complain about not getting fans in

In general its £30 to see leeds play as an adult. Some cup games they charge £15. For a season ticket you looking at £500

Wow ... so £35 down here at Portsmouth must be considered value then.

Only one team in YORKshire...York City of course! still unbeaten this season... rotflmfao ;nanana;

Yeap I know in the general scheme of things £30 is not alot, but added to the fact its 1st div football and the standard is absolutely shite. bates is a robbing bastard and half the cheaper tickets for people on the dole, OAP got taken away I am surprised we get so many turning up still.

Its £15 to watch York in non league! still get 2,000 plus!

Go create a York city thread then..lets see how many post or give a fuk about that :)

I doubt that Leeds' prices would be much out of line with other clubs in that division.  I remember being charged ~£25-£30 for a game a Swindon in that division about 5 years ago.

Huddersfield did a season ticket promo this year (I think part of their Centenary) where season tickets were £100 (or something along those lines) but those sorts of prices are the exception to the rule.

To be honest, it's one of the more galling aspects for the regular fans to getting relegated from the Championship (it certainly was for me).  The standard of football is so much lower in League One, yet the cost of admission over a season hardly changes.

Haha do you think I care? typical reply from a Leeds fan tho, well done.

TROLL!

BIG BAD WOLF!

Same old BS on this thread.

Someone will say about Leeds still being a huge club, then more ppl will come up with the same reasons that this is not the case:

Who gives a fk;

Leave our Thread ALONE!

Come on Leeeeeeeds. Forever & Ever

Chelsea FTW

You just browsing on nufc.com ???

Do people think that hull,stoke,wigan are bigger clubs than Leeds,Nottingham Forest,Sheffield (either) imo they aren't and just because of how teams are currently doing that doesn't mean they're the bigger club.

GL to you leeds boys would love to have you back in the prem over wigan any day of the week

The worst team in Leeds history. They have lost 6 from the last 8 games. Our defence is shambolic, every set piece we look like conceding (7 set in the last 5 games).

While the crowd have not turned on Macca time is running out for him, the next 3 games are:

MK Dons
Leicester City
Stockport

Current form we be lucky to beat Stockport. There is already a market on the betting sites for the next manager. Fuk sometimes I hate being a Leeds fan.

gg Gary Mac

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/7794419.stm

Strange time to do it imo + v sudden.

Can we get someone thats going to be given a chance long term plz, ffs.

The team was fuking abysmal, relegation form.  Not suprised.

bugger. wish it had happened after boxing day, they'll turn it on for a caretaker now

Excuse me?

we've lost 4 games in a row in division 3.

Aidy Boothroyd plz.

I dont really understand what went wrong here, after a few games in the season it seemed to me there were 4 teams that scored a lot and played attacking football in that division, mk dons, leeds, millwall, p'brough.

The last 5 weeks or so what has happend to the leeds team all of a sudden?

Same team and manager that were ul not to get promoted last season and buzzing early this season but i had to drop them out a few weeks ago, everytime i heard a report from leeds it was as though the defence had just been chucked together that day and you were getting some fucked results.

so was there some major crisis with a shit load of defenders getting injured cs i dont really see how you can flop so dramatically in such a short space of time for seemingly no reason?

Leicester?

played great stuff all season


McAllister tried to introduce a lot of flair going forward, but thats all well and good but you need to get the defensive basics right. I gather defending from set pieces looked like Keystone Kops. Losing Beckford's goals just as it was going tits up at the back was unfortunate too

Neutral perspective...plenty of young talent..ally that to some organisation and they'll recover into the top 6 soon enough. Supporters and Bates' expectations get in the way of giving anyone time at Leeds though. Same old for any big club fallen on hard times.

3 reasons for me:

1. Beckford injured.

2. He didnt know his best team, he has 8 midfield players all (without checking) have probably played the same amount of games, chopping and changing constantly.

3. The defence is no better than average for a League 1 side.

Not really surprising, been s**t for a while, worst defence in the league and unable to defend set pieces. Hopefully this also means the end for Staunton too.

Billy Davies FTW

Looks like Grayson has got it, good appointment imo, dropping a division too, we're not famous anymore

Simon Grayson is a nice fella, met him a few times when he played for us. This is his chance, as he wasn't going to take Blackpool much further than he had on 6,000 gates, two stands and no money.

His brother Larry would have been a better choice :)

If I remember rightly he played for us ages ago, see what happens.

He did, He started at Leeds, and is a Yorkshireman.

Grayson has been confirmed as manager

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/7796182.stm

Really suprised at this, although he does have experiance of getting out of Div 1 with Blackpool. At least hes a Yorkshireman :) Up in Ripon.

Interesting appointment...  But about 2/3 weeks ago I was browsing Skybet  in the managers section, next Leeds boss, and Grayson was 2nd/3rd fave and I thought that was a bit odd at the time, obviously something thats been simmering for a while up there...

Finally some sense at Elland Road. Last year Ken Bates in his infiniate wisdom not only content in screwing people for going to watch Leeds he decided to take away the rights for fans to listen to Leeds games on the radio and sell the rights to the highest bidder that happened to be Yorkshire radio. Funny how Yorkshire radio is owned by Leeds United and only available for Leeds games on DAB. BBC radio Leeds who have had commentry on the Leeds games for years were asked to pay 150% more to continue broadcasting for erm for 1st division football.

So with only about 1000 people listening to Leeds games this season something must have happened and they have sold/allowed Minster FM to have running commentry of all Leeds UTD games from now on.

Would've thought Samaratins FM be more appropriate :)

Thomas Brolin back in as Youth Team Manager. GG

Got Trundle in on loan, not a bad signing

Yeah he should be able to kick start the goals again, he's decent at this level :)

Do we think he's a starting player and becchio is dropped to the bench?

Hes a right fat git tho same as Robinson, apparently they chums.

Both like to play down the left channel, both left-footed. But different sorts of players, could play together imo. Trundle on bench today though, 0-2 down at mo

 rotflmfao

[ ] Leeds will still be in the football league in 2012

gtfo Rutter.

leeds leeds leeds!

Tim Krul and David Edgar are being shown round Thorp Arch today. Leeds have agreed a fee of just over £1million with Newcastle for the pair of them. Its now their decisions. It will if they agree be announced at a press conference at 5:00pm on Monday. Leeds have also agreed a fee with Oldham for Chris Taylor which includes Neil Kilkenny and Rui Marques going to them and about £400k expect this to go through late next week, as there is a problem with Rui's final settlement from Leeds that is still being discussed. I got this info from a club source and it is genuine.

 ;booder;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/7881373.stm

and it was a bad one too, 3 game ban fully deserved...

Leeds have started to buzz again though, bit too late?

Yeah defo deserved!

so to get around not banning him they have said he was booked for a previous foul and that the ref didnt see the elbow, utter shite. Lets make up the rules, fuk leeds.

Deserved a red, but its bollocks about booking him a different foul. Will miss Huddersfield, Hereford and Cheltenham, should beat the last 2 without him but i fear hudders may do the double over us. May have liam dickinson on loan for Cheltenham game and hopefully Bristol dont call Trundle back anytime soon.

Aye 3 match ban. Talk is of that young American forward Grella getting his chance.

You're seriously trying to say he didn't deserve a ban for that assault?

If he had done that in the pub on a Saturday night he would have received 9 months inside!

3 match ban vvvvv lenient imo.

Of course he deserved it, but they lied to get him banned by saying they didn't see it. The Chelsea player who assulted the player vs Liverpool didn't get ban becasue it was seen at the time.

The point is how they moved around the rules of the game to get hi  banned.


No one saying he didn't deserve it did they?

If they moved the goalposts then good.

As long as they come up with the correct ruling eventually it doesn't matter how they got there imo.

(Just like the non penalty for Hull v Aston Villa).

gotta agree with this. it's an absolute joke of a rule and the sooner they get rid the better but until then I hope they continue to find ways round it.

shame they didn't do the same for the liverpool chelsea game though obv

Not for my Dreamteam it wasn't...

I think Becchio and Trundle will start Hopefully Grella gets 20mins or so, it'll be good to see him play

gtfi HTFC

who?

Just seen this. A lad at work came up with something similar but his was a more believable loan deal. Krul is and will be worth a lot more than 1m for us. I'd have carried Edgar down to Leeds though, exactly the same player as huntington, let's hope that one happens in the summer.

Where we seemed rather unlucky at the weekend vs Hudds, last night against Hereford we got dicked on. Reading some of the busy Leeds forums this morning (Waccoe) there is alot of unrest and fans calling for the boycotting of games lol.

I guess it's not everyday your watching the worst team in the clubs history :(

There must be some serious confidence issues because Hereford are a poor poor side, albeit with a bit of loan quality now added, suppose its a different game if the Pen goes in...

The moment Ken Bates got his grubby hands on your club I reckon 99% of neutral fans lost any sympathy for Leeds.

Now we all think it's really funny what's happening at Elland Road.

Interesting post from a Leeds fan who went last night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYvVb7iglf0

Just got in. Sorry to say guys there is a cancer running through the club and indeed the support. Tonight was simply dreadful.

After 80 minutes the hardore support were singing 'We're Shit and we're sick of it'. The players watched on visibly stunned.
Then a very load 'Bates Out' and 'Your not fit to wear the shirt' The atmosphere was very ugly and the fans were openly taunting and abusing the players. Casper was getting shitloads of abuse.

The end of the game. Most players ran straight off the pitch. Rui started to clap and walk towards the fans but was booed and told to f*** off. Only Dickinson came right up close and he seemed to get off lightly. He is off now back to Stoke and I thi nk he is relieved!!!

The game was there for the taking. Hereford were very poor. It tells you how bad Leeds were that we didnt get a single shot on target other than Trundles penalty attempt. The players were arguing, both Snodgrass and Becchio wanted to take it but Billy Big Bollox Trundle demanded he had was to take it. The rest is history. He fuckin fluffed it and within 2 minutes Hereford scored with their first attack and after that we never looked interested.

I'm sorry to say this team is not good enough for a top 6 place. If we do managed to fluke it into the play offs they will no doubt freeze at Wembley and let us down again. They cannot cope with playing for Leeds Utd when the opposition like Hereford run their bollox offfor 90 minutes and out fight our pampered prima donna's.

To end. Several of out players were a disgrace. Trundle was possibly the worst but Snodgrass, Robbo, Delph,
Howson and Rui all had stinkers. The only player who can say played well was Ben Parker. Unfortunately it meant Dickinson played right back and he is all left foot. Why is it succesive Leeds managers insist on square pegs in round holes.

Sorry guys. A fuckin bad night following our once great club.

I agree most Leeds fans hate Bates he has destroyed the club with his half full ground 30 quid a ticket policy.

I don't hate Ken Bates, he saved the club when no one else would and thereby saved us from the threat of extinction which would have been unthinkable. Hes also done an extremly good job getting the finances back in very good shape. I think this is the only issue which Acid & I frequently disagree on.

Its horrible atm tho, for me to expect to go away to Hereford and fully expect to lose is just ridiciolous.

Just cut their losses and close?

17 York 31 -3 33
18 Salisbury 31 -17 33
19 Woking 32 -11 32
20 Barrow 29 -13 31
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21 Grays Athletic 28 -12 29
22 Forest Green 29 -13 29
23 Northwich 30 -22 19
24 Lewes 31 -41 17

 

HAHA they should have given up the day after this......http://www.yorkcityfc.com/history/manua.php


"United put out one of their strongest sides with the intent of mauling City but the tables were turned as City, assembled at a cost of just over £100,000 and with odds of 20-1 to win, gave Alex Ferguson's men a footballing lesson."



+ York have never had £1m pounds let alone £50m at their disposal, from the champions league to copy/cutting n pasting conference table, lol wp!

[  ] cut & paste

[X] copy & paste

Touche...now go to work!

[ ]  Pat McGibbon had a successful debut & went on to become a Manchester Utd legend...

"Manchester United chose to make just two changes to their side that hadA small number of the 5,000 City fans who made the trek to Old Trafford  thrashed Premiership Bolton a few days earlier"

"At this stage City were toying with United as the European giants almost went four down"

"...as City had not only beaten one of, if not the best club in football, but comprehensively thrashed them."

I bet York have spent nearly as much on transfer fee's as Leeds have for their current lineups.

Last nights team had loan's, freebie's and 2 small fee's based on appearances playing. Only difference is we are paying about 12k a week to the fat bastard Robinson, 6kish for a few others.

Bates sure did save the club Brent, no one can deny that. Just feel instead of getting the City behind the team he's done the opposite.

Sure we made 4million last year and cleared the debts but has he let anyone spend it? not sure if he has and the managers just didnt find anyone to target.

Sledge is pure comedy he keeps popping up on this Leeds thread talking about York :)

Its cause im jealous of Leeds... :)up

Decent article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/leagueone/leeds/4699489/Leeds-United-fans-fly-the-flag-despite-controversial-portrayal-in-The-Damned-United.html


Suprised Leeds still have the largest away following of any of the 72 Football League clubs tho.

I'm not surprised they have a large away following. I think they have away season tickets at Leeds don't they?
Wonder where  he got that stat from?

I am not sure if they still have the away season tickets.

The importance of Beckford not getting suspended or injured is crucial for the final push for the playoffs and/or 2nd place. Without him we have lost something like 12/15 matches. He has now got 25 goals in around 30 games.

A win tonight and Beckford first goalscorer at 6/1 vs Oldham pls.

Talking of beckford, had this email of a betting website earlier if its of interest to you:

As we’ve seen before, sometimes odds are so wrong with one bookie they have to be taken.

Jermaine Beckford is 15/1 to score 2 or more goals tonight with Paddy Power (he is between 7/1 and 9/1 with other bookies). He is also 80/1 with them to score a hat-trick.

In Beckford’s last 10 games he has scored the following amounts of goals 3-2-1-0-0-2-0-0-2-2 meaning he has netting two or more goals in 50% of his last 10 games. He has also scored 3 times twice this season

The prices are very obviously wrong so hopefully we’ll see a couple of goals from him tonight

19.45 02/03/2009 – League One : Oldham v Leeds : Beckford to score 2+ goals @ 16 (15/1 Paddy Power) - 0.75 points
19.45 02/03/2009 – League One : Oldham v Leeds : Beckford to score 3+ goals @ 81 (80/1 Paddy Power) - 0.25 points

Cheers only bet on 1st goalscorer will lump on 2 and 3 goals now.

Paddy Power always offer specials via the offical Leeds United website, last week they offered double Beckfords odds and he shipped it in for 10/1 vs Millwall :)

mini ship on beckford hattrick tonight :)

LOL, Batesy will try anything...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/7949957.stm

Might aswell have a go.

gogogo Ken!

I would have thought he has a far better case than that twat Warnock.

Watch Clough & Revie clash :) classic

http://www.itv.com/Sport/Football/News/Generalnews/ManualStories/Cloughclips/default.html

I watched Damned United yesterday and the portrayal of Leeds players makes them to be blunt look like a bunch of knobs.
In particular Billy Bremner was just a horrible character and I came away from the film hating him.
Prior to the film, I had allways thought of him as a Leeds legend and sad when he passed away and statue was made as a tribute to him and all that.
However now I have no time for him. Trouble is I have no idea how much of the film was fact or fiction and whether he has been failry treated, as he can't argue his case.
Anyone seen the film or any thoughts?

 :dontask:

there were a few leeds players that acted as consultants on the film.

It's not a true story, loads of it is made up.

Ofcourse most of the made up shit is about people who are dead and could not sue the original book author. Jonny Giles sued and won his case against the author as it was wrong to interlude fact and fiction in such a way so that people actually think its a true story, which it is not.

Bremner was a gentleman in the game, he was and still is idolised around Leeds, he was hugely popular and you will not get one person speak bad of him off the pitch.  On the field he was a leader and a warrior but he always shook hands after the game and had great relationships amoungst fellow pro's.

Not seen the film, but I wouldn't take anything in it as the truth, its supposed to entertain not enlighten you to what actually happened.

Someone who calls you a cheat and a fraud who then comes to manage you and repeats this again to the team will not get the team to play for him. FACT.

http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s84/st143665.htm

Had me in stiches some muppet pool fan upset from weekend, then gets pwned so bad in the responses.

Ha, look at the 2 pictures further down the comments.

The Hartlepool fans all look like true gents.

Our play off details have been released;

LEEDS FINISH 3RD
Friday 8th May Away v Scunthorpe or Tranmere 19:45
Thursday 14th May Home v Scunthorpe or Tranmere 19:45

LEEDS FINISH 4TH AND MK DONS FINISH 5TH
Saturday 9th May Away v MK Dons 12:45
Thursday 14th May Home v MK Dons 19:45

LEEDS FINISH 4TH AND MILLWALL FINISH 5TH
Saturday 9th May Away v Millwall 12:45
Thursday 14th May Home v Millwall 19:45

LEEDS FINISH 5TH AND MK DONS FINISH 4TH
Saturday 9th May Home v MK Dons 12:45
Friday 15th May Away v MK Dons 19:45

LEEDS FINISH 5TH AND MILLWALL FINISH 4TH
Saturday 9th May Home v Millwall 12:45
Thursday 14th May Away v Millwall 19:45

shitting myself with nerves even looking at this.

Rly not looking forward to this, it means far far too much to me.

Sure wont be my yearly punishment @ Wembley as usual.

Is it right that if Leeds meet Millwall in the semi-finals the police are going to ban away fans from attending both matches?

No, but the allocation will be small and extremly heavily policed. i.e. only official coaches, driven straight into away end & Away end being in the higher tier of a seculded stand.

Anything like Milan and they'll be pissing on you!  :D

Want to avoid Millwall if possible....they are a tidy side and it would be a real test for Leeds.

Tranmere/Scunny or Dons I fancy us vs them.

i'll take us over anybody over the 2 leg semis, then we'll just have to luckbox it in the final.

Theres only one YORKshire team at WEMBLEY this year....YORK CITY....weeehayyyyyy!








[ x ] yes they are shit.

looks like we'll be playing millwall in the semis after mk dons won tonight

Confirmed Away Allocations:

1,000 if we play Millwall.

3,100 if we play MK Dons.


We will play Millwall. We will beat them and then play MK Dons in the final.

A huge club enriched with history against a franchise who stole the dream that was Wimbledon football club. We will lose.

Dont worry bh, we'll crush the scum that is mk dons

So com lololol,gl to leeds and see you in the championship next season

At home to Northampton at weekend, they need a point to stay up. Leeds looking to keep their long winning streak at home going.

Crowd will most probs be 35k+ I would like to see a few of our key players rested esp Beckford for the playoffs. The last thing we need is sodje or naylor injured.

Hows this partnership been doing?

They have improved the defence no end, Naylor is a non nonsense centre back who is playing for his home club and 100% committed, Sodje is already a cult hero with the fans, Reading must sure have some good defenders if he cannot get into the team. If Macca had pulled off a couple of loan moves like this when our defense was the worse in the division and conceeding goals from set plays EVERY game we would have claimed 1st or 2nd without doubt.

please let mikey grella start

BRING ON THE MILLWALL.

I be there Saturday I have seat in Millwall box :) least I wont get spat on and attacked from in there. 1-0 or 2-0 pls would be great.

omg toasty life. How did you get that.

if youre wife for some reason cant go.....

lol aint taking her, off with Uncle who knows some peeps there.

ELLAND ROAD SOLD OUT FOR PLAY-OFF

A crowd of over 37,000 will be in attendance at Leeds United's Play-Off semi-final second leg with Millwall on Thursday 14th May 2009.


The anticipated crowd is considerably reduced from the stadium's capacity of 39,401 due to the limit of 1,000 visiting fans and seats removed as segregation inside the stadium.

Ohh yeah was a noise!

Saves the Millwall fans removing them i suppose!

June, the capacity is 40,204.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RWpwNhHPKE&feature=PlayList&p=7899DD24394E4583&index=0&playnext=1

Here are those videos of Leeds v Millwall CCTV crime as shown on Channel 5. All the parts on the right.

Leeds Leeds Leeds!

haha the old woman in Part 2 4:25 is pretty com.

hope you go up this season so we can give you another pasting.

"thats why your going down, thats why your going down"  that game was so good

haha the woman in Part 4 1:25 is such a tool

lol @ this.

When asked @ 3.30pm most Saturdays who Wednesday are playing, you have no idea.

i only turn out for the big games

lol..I love Sheff Wed one of my fav games ever was there 6-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMr9BejwVTE

die plz. gordon watson's dive was com. Worst dive ever

june tht programme was fairly tez. Nothing rly happened.

A few pics from saturdays match

Lap of honour

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/jmoody13/IMG00026-20090502-1701.jpg)

Northhampton abs devd after we sent them down :)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/jmoody13/IMG00024-20090502-1654.jpg)

My fav player "lucas the kop cat"

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/jmoody13/IMG00020-20090502-1601.jpg)

Horneris

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/jmoody13/IMG00021-20090502-1602.jpg)

Wonder how many Leeds fans will be in the Millwall end this Saturday? 100-200 is the rumour on the Leeds forums. Hope their aint no funny business last thing we need to trouble from Leeds fans.

hope there is some bollocks, might spice up a rather dull looking spectacle

hahahaha Mood, your a douche.

There was like 5 good pictures of me, and you pick the one where i look like a tool.

Comedy.

the others were videos mate

i've heard 100 and then 100 millwall fans have got tickets for our end at elland road

omg, its 2moro now.

Im absolutely shitting them. (just 3 times plz)

fyp

stfu ChripRich.

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