Title: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: thehair on September 06, 2006, 03:58:03 AM I am looking to acquire a few books to help me with my live play.
Internet play has been my home for a long time, this has helped my gain a good knowledge of pot odds etc.. I am looking for a book that helps more with tells/body language because I have realized this part of poker is holding me back. Not only do I have no idea what some people are up to, I want to make sure I am not giving away to much information when I play Could anyone recommend a good book that focuses on improving these areas? Mark Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Robert HM on September 06, 2006, 03:59:17 AM Caro's book of tells, supposed to be the bible of such things, I must get around to reading it one day.
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Woodsey on September 06, 2006, 04:13:34 AM Caro's book of tells, supposed to be the bible of such things, I must get around to reading it one day. Its ok but I wouldn't go out of your way. There is supposed to be a fantastic book coming out soon written by an ex fbi agent on tells. He did a talk at the recent camp helmuth and was supposed to be superb. Even the pros were glued to his presentation. Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Nem on September 06, 2006, 05:50:02 AM Caro's book of tells, supposed to be the bible of such things 10-15 years ago maybe... ;tk; Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Canuck on September 06, 2006, 07:21:42 AM Navarro is the FBI agent. Apparently Helmuth and Cloutier were taking pages of notes when he was speaking at his first camp. :D
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Boba Fett on September 06, 2006, 07:57:40 AM Caro's book is still pretty good, when you play the smaller buy in tourneys its like the book has come to life.
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: jezza777 on September 06, 2006, 12:40:14 PM Caros book definately worth a read, also try The Psychology of Poker by Alan Schoonmaker (sp)
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: TightEnd on September 06, 2006, 12:48:22 PM and the Book of Bluffs by Lessinger
has big sections on tells etc Check out blonde's book review section, including a review of this book by I forget who. http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=taxonomy/term/4 Also check out the tips and advice section, some useful articles on the psychological side of poker http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=taxonomy/term/9 Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: SuffolkPunch on September 06, 2006, 02:00:58 PM I've got a book coming out next month, but it's for internet beginners and only about 300 words on tells. Sorry!
;scarymoment; Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: TightEnd on September 06, 2006, 02:04:25 PM I've got a book coming out next month, but it's for internet beginners and only about 300 words on tells. Sorry! ;scarymoment; written especially for Sun readers " and PHWOAR COR if you get AK UTG then raise 3x BB"? Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: SupaMonkey on September 06, 2006, 02:14:06 PM Caros book definately worth a read, also try The Psychology of Poker by Alan Schoonmaker (sp) Did you like the psychology of poker jezza? I thought it was a waste of time myself. Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: SuffolkPunch on September 06, 2006, 05:24:53 PM I've got a book coming out next month, but it's for internet beginners and only about 300 words on tells. Sorry! ;scarymoment; written especially for Sun readers " and PHWOAR COR if you get AK UTG then raise 3x BB"? Not far off! Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: whufc65 on September 06, 2006, 05:36:29 PM I've got a book coming out next month, but it's for internet beginners and only about 300 words on tells. Sorry! ;scarymoment; Looking forward to seeing what is on page 3 Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: SuffolkPunch on September 06, 2006, 07:23:26 PM I've got a book coming out next month, but it's for internet beginners and only about 300 words on tells. Sorry! ;scarymoment; Looking forward to seeing what is on page 3 Obvious - how to play with big pairs Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Nem on September 06, 2006, 08:12:58 PM I've got a book coming out next month, but it's for internet beginners and only about 300 words on tells. Sorry! ;scarymoment; Looking forward to seeing what is on page 3 Obvious - how to play with big pairs Never limp ::) Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: lazaroonie on September 06, 2006, 08:27:11 PM Caros book definately worth a read, also try The Psychology of Poker by Alan Schoonmaker (sp) Did you like the psychology of poker jezza? I thought it was a waste of time myself. I liked the book - it think the title is a bit misleading, it could easily be called the "motivation" of poker, but it is mainly geared towards ring games. Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: BrumBilly on September 06, 2006, 09:15:54 PM I bought Caro's book in a package deal and thought it was a real waste of money that could be summed up in a couple of pages...make that paragraphs...better still, sentences!
I think 'The Psychology of Poker' is one of the best, most thought provoking poker books I own. Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: thehair on September 07, 2006, 04:13:20 AM Cheers for the help guys, gonna look at ebay just now and see whats going.
Look forward to hearing more from this FBI dude :D Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: CelticGeezeer on September 07, 2006, 04:22:29 AM Phil Hellmuth Presents Read 'Em and Reap: A Career FBI Agent's Guide to Decoding Poker Tells (Paperback)
by Joe Navarro, Marvin Karlins List Price: $18.95 Price: $12.89 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details You Save: $6.06 (32%) Availability: This item has not yet been released. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/Phil-Hellmuth-Presents-Read-Reap/dp/0061198595/sr=8-1/qid=1157599191/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-5109277-5786243?ie=UTF8&s=books Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Woodsey on September 07, 2006, 06:48:47 AM I think I read somewhere its not being released in the US until november, and we'll be after that. Could be wrong but I read it from someone who recently went to camp Hellmuth.
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Snatiramas on September 07, 2006, 08:04:34 AM still waiting for tighty's book based on observations at Luton
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Royal Flush on September 07, 2006, 08:35:30 AM I knew i recognised the name Joe Navarro, he has written a few books aswell as a million TV interviwes.
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: TightEnd on September 07, 2006, 03:12:13 PM still waiting for tighty's book based on observations at Luton its in the queue behind the half written semi autobiograhpical middle age angst (think nick hornby, tony parsons) post divorce coming of age book. Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Snatiramas on September 07, 2006, 04:47:39 PM Strangely I know someone else writing a similar book.
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: TightEnd on September 07, 2006, 08:12:52 PM Strangely I know someone else writing a similar book. PM me who please Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Djinn on September 07, 2006, 10:40:32 PM I like Bob Ciaffone and Stuart Reuben's 'Pot Limit and No Limit Hold'em' for good no-nonsense stuff. Not really tell related, but all sensible and well written, which is something many Manuals are sadly not...
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: AdamM on September 08, 2006, 09:37:08 PM psychology of poker make a huge impadt in my game. giving more consideration to why people play the way they do was a big jump in my understanding of the game
Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: I, Zimbra on September 08, 2006, 11:59:51 PM Phil Hellmuth Presents Read 'Em and Reap: A Career FBI Agent's Guide to Decoding Poker Tells (Paperback) Even Amazon is catching up with poker lingo I see.by Joe Navarro, Marvin Karlins List Price: $18.95 Price: $12.89 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details You Save: $6.06 (32%) Availability: This item has not yet been released. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/Phil-Hellmuth-Presents-Read-Reap/dp/0061198595/sr=8-1/qid=1157599191/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-5109277-5786243?ie=UTF8&s=books Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: Canuck on September 09, 2006, 04:53:34 PM One of my favorite books was Matt Matros' The Making Of A Poker Player
I thought it was a very good read. I saw the Psychology of poker but didn't get it, I will look out for it Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: bhoywonder on September 09, 2006, 06:51:40 PM im looking for similar books myself
ive got loads of books but none regarding tells i'll deffo get a few of the above my tells are limited to weak is strong and vice versa and betting patterns but sniffing out a bluff for me is the nirvana im looking for (i find this very difficult when playing live ) Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: DazzaT on September 10, 2006, 07:27:49 PM Being a Hypnotherapist/Psychotherapist before learning poker has helped me move more quicker than a 'normal' pace but after reading so-called pro-poker books, nothing compares with the Psychology books you can borrow for free at the Library. Where as they dont give poker situations, they DO give you information on how people cope with lying, stress, excitement, etc. This gives you places to look when trying to figure out a move (rate of chest raising and lowering, main vien in the side of the neck, etc.) also they give you an insight to how the eyes are controlled by the brain so people without sunglasses are easily 'read' with a simple question, the response it immaterial to the question as you'll know the answer. Worth a look!
Good luck! DazzaT Title: Re: Poker Books – Recommendations required Post by: The Nomad on September 14, 2006, 09:30:35 AM Hello Hair, Sounds like you ae getting on the right track. These books take some finding. Its no coincidence that when Jennifer Harmen took the FBI tests on Lie detection she was better than the pros who said witchcraft is dead. What I found was there was a snippet here a snippet there there is no one book that covers what you want to know. Just a chapter here a ccouple of chapters there. It works out quite expensive so this Helmuth publication should provide a cheap and easy alternative... ; Dazza T is spot on its all in the Psychology books. ;goodluck;
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