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Has anyone else watched this?

I just watched it and it left me feeling sick thinking what the human race does to itself. How do these crimes still get carried out and how do the governments of the west stand by and let it happen.

Watch Shooting Dogs. also about the atrocities in Rwanda starring John  Hurt. true story , also very disturbing

Cheers will hunt it down.

I just watched a documentary about the rise and fall of the Miami drug trade, brilliant stuff, crazy how much those guys made!

I served in bosnia and see it for yourself, then u know what disturbing is

ive seen it


shocking stuff

only because its very very real

Unfortunately these type of atrocities are too common an occurence, especially in some of the poorest areas of the world.

it is only with the making of such great films, Hotel Rwanda, shooting dogs, The killing fields etc. does Joe public get any idea of the real butchery and savagery that happens between fellow humans.

I, unfortunately have seen this first hand, having formerly been an Infantryman. What has changed in the recent years is the media coverage of some of these conflicts, the last Iraq war (though technically a few of us would say the war is still ongoing) is a good example.

Joe public sat in their sitting rooms as the real horror of these campaigns was beamed live to their TV sets. This, IMHO, helped create the huge anit-war response within UK and USA simply because everyday Joe could see and be appalled by the destruction they were witnessing.

Prior to this you would only have the voices of the groups who had been campaigning against wars, nuclear weapons etc and Joe went about his business as usual with the usual daily news update (and that with only the info the governments wanted to release.)

It is only through the hard work of war correspondents and TV stations that the true reality of war has been brought to so many now, and long may it continue. the more that these images can be shown throughout the world, the more people will voice their opinions against wars and the more the governments will have to listen.

I believe we were just short of forcing Mr Blair from going to war in Iraq this time, however, going forward and with the increased ability for the media to be "on the spot" It will be harder for future PM's to cede to the powers of the USA and say,"No, my people think it's wrong, I think it's wrong and therefore I will not join you this time."

I know that there are other considerations that the PM has such as trade andkeeping he US on our side, however I do believe that the greater the media coverage, the more the public will speak out and force government's to re-think their strategies.

One thing I would always ask though, is that we support our troops whenever they are given these tasks. They are only following orders (and this does not condone those servicemen/women who stray outside the rules of conflict.) A lot of these guys and gals are as opposed to some of the things we get involved in and on occasion refuse to serve, at great cost to themselves and their families.

Recognise that a poker forum may not be the best place to post these views, however the more pressure we put on our "leaders" the better.


Geo.


 

“If language is not correct, then what is said is not what is meant;
if what is said is not what is meant, then what ought to be done remains undone.”
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Not having a pop a you James but it saddens me that often we have to wait until Hollywood have got in on the act..then we get a lot of "OMG..man's inhumanity to man" hand wringing.

It's happeneing today - all over the place. Google 'Darfur'.


BTW You ever gonna use that friggin pilots licence?

I saw this for the first time last month and felt ill afterwards.

If you read about about the massacres on wikipedia it's even worse than the film shows. The level of organisation and the widespread acceptance of it by the Hutu's from their leaders is truly sickening.

Obviously i don't need hollywood to tell me! I just happened to have just watched the film so felt the desire to post about it.

Not that its a bad thing though, the more awareness that is raised about these atrocities the better.

As for the pilots licence, lol no idea, sometime soon!

unfortunately alot of government policy is not to intervene unless absolutley in that governments interest to do so. The films made of these atrosities do highlight what is going on because people want to have a look for themselves. Hotel rwanda was a very well made film and underlined the bigotry involved. as did films on vietnam, bosniaand serbia, granada and many others. take alot of peoples word  for it it is worse that depicted on film, just this weekend 3 british and 24 american service people have lost there lives standing up for the people that cause these atrocities, but when the west do them, they are not atrocities.

I've not seen this film but, like oneeye, my husband served in Bosnia (before we met).  Some of the stories he has told me about things he witnessed have had me in tears and unable to sleep for days - I can't imagine what it must be like to see these things first hand.  It is truely shocking what human beings can do to each other.

lol oneeye - that conflict in Granada musta been something to see...bingo grannies with dabbers at 10 paces.

the worse thing about granada is that i was on a week off and i got called back so the americans could invade it. didnt u see heart break ridge

Gr E nada


Senility's a bugger ain't it.... 

This thread is disapointing on several levels.
I originally read the title as "Hold Rwanda" vice "Hotel Rwanda"

1st: I was hoping for this being Flushy shouting "HOLD RWANDA!" at the top of his lungs during a poker hand.

2nd: I thought I was going to learn a new hand name RWANDA = XX

OK seious response now.

Flushy, I find it interesting that you state "western governments sit by and let it happen."

I agree that more decisive action should be taken, alas, world opinion and The UN are often hypocritical. The last time The US launched a major military initiative in Africa, (Somalia) they recieved minimal support and actual interference from The UN. Additionaly, the weighty world public opinion never really cared.

Why is it that this "world opinion" can only be mustered in strength to oppose a marginal war but can't be mustered to support a "just war." Clearly there are cases for Just Military action that even the most ardent pacifist would concede is necesary.

Anywayz, theres my 2cents.


PS Notice kids...no flames, no anger?  :o

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I just watched blood diamonds Leo Di Caprio's new flick, an altogether different African problem, and although more of a story than an insight into the problems surrounding conflict diamonds it is another pull at the strings of the heart!

I suggest you watch it if you get the chance.

I watched this for the first time about four months ago actually and felt the same, sick. I actually felt compelled to go out there to visit for some reason and did a little research on the internet about how easy it is.

They seem to be heading in the right direction now and it looks an incredibly beautiful country. It is so easy to get caught up in this although we need to be careful otherwise we could turn in to manic depressives. Not only humanity but also the animals that we are killing all around the world, the whales, Dolphins etc. On the way back from Aussie Millions I watched 'An Inconvenient Truth' on the plane, the Al Gore movie about global warming. Again, on a different level, it wast horrifying. We seem intent on killing the world...cheerful post huh...