blonde poker forum

i had played 8 hands in the whole comp before these back to back hands

first one i am happy till 6th do i have to call bets on 6th and 7th?

okerStars Game #9358215060: Tournament #47143752, $10+$1 Razz Limit - Level V (80/160) - 2007/04/10 - 20:55:10 (ET)
Table '47143752 1' 8-max
Seat 1: luffeme (3678 in chips)
Seat 2: tom1939 (1981 in chips)
Seat 3: KAZ917 (951 in chips)
Seat 4: Ironside (2765 in chips)
Seat 5: Onetumeni (3666 in chips)
Seat 6: tamasam31 (1378 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Windsor03 (3706 in chips)
Seat 8: idiotp0ker (5875 in chips)
luffeme: posts the ante 16
tom1939: posts the ante 16
KAZ917: posts the ante 16
Ironside: posts the ante 16
Onetumeni: posts the ante 16
tamasam31: posts the ante 16
Windsor03: posts the ante 16
idiotp0ker: posts the ante 16
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to luffeme [2c]
Dealt to tom1939 [4c]
Dealt to KAZ917 [5s]
Dealt to Ironside [3h 2s 4h]
Dealt to Onetumeni [Qc]
Dealt to tamasam31 [Ac]
Dealt to Windsor03 [6c]
Dealt to idiotp0ker [9d]
Onetumeni: brings in for 24
tamasam31: folds
Windsor03: folds
idiotp0ker: folds
luffeme: folds
tom1939: raises 56 to 80
KAZ917: raises 80 to 160
Ironside: raises 80 to 240
Onetumeni: folds
tom1939: raises 80 to 320
Betting is capped
KAZ917: calls 160
Ironside: calls 80
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to tom1939 [4c] [9c]
Dealt to KAZ917 [5s] [7h]
Dealt to Ironside [3h 2s 4h] [5d]
Ironside: bets 80
tom1939: calls 80
KAZ917: raises 80 to 160
Ironside: raises 80 to 240
tom1939: calls 160
KAZ917: raises 80 to 320
Betting is capped
Ironside: calls 80
tom1939: calls 80
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to tom1939 [4c 9c] [8d]
Dealt to KAZ917 [5s 7h] [Qh]
Dealt to Ironside [3h 2s 4h 5d] [Jd]
tom1939: bets 160
KAZ917: calls 160
Ironside: raises 160 to 320
tom1939: raises 160 to 480
KAZ917: calls 135 and is all-in
Ironside: raises 160 to 640
Betting is capped
tom1939: calls 160
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to tom1939 [4c 9c 8d] [7d]
Dealt to KAZ917 [5s 7h Qh] [7s]
Dealt to Ironside [3h 2s 4h 5d Jd] [Kc]
tom1939: bets 160
Ironside: calls 160
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Ironside [3h 2s 4h 5d Jd Kc] [Js]
tom1939: bets 160
Ironside: calls 160
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tom1939: shows [Ad 3c 4c 9c 8d 7d Th] (Lo: 8,7,4,3,A)
Ironside: shows [3h 2s 4h 5d Jd Kc Js] (Lo: J,5,4,3,2)
tom1939 collected 1330 from side pot
KAZ917: mucks hand
tom1939 collected 2957 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4287 Main pot 2957. Side pot 1330. | Rake 0
Seat 1: luffeme folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tom1939 showed [Ad 3c 4c 9c 8d 7d Th] and won (4287) with Lo: 8,7,4,3,A
Seat 3: KAZ917 mucked [4d Jc 5s 7h Qh 7s 6h]
Seat 4: Ironside showed [3h 2s 4h 5d Jd Kc Js] and lost with Lo: J,5,4,3,2
Seat 5: Onetumeni folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 6: tamasam31 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Windsor03 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: idiotp0ker folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)


2nd hand

when should i have put the breaks on i dont think i was tilting just couldnt understand why he was calling



PokerStars Game #9358234951: Tournament #47143752, $10+$1 Razz Limit - Level V (80/160) - 2007/04/10 - 20:56:23 (ET)
Table '47143752 1' 8-max
Seat 1: luffeme (3662 in chips)
Seat 2: tom1939 (4652 in chips)
Seat 4: Ironside (1149 in chips)
Seat 5: Onetumeni (3626 in chips)
Seat 6: tamasam31 (1362 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Windsor03 (3690 in chips)
Seat 8: idiotp0ker (5859 in chips)
luffeme: posts the ante 16
tom1939: posts the ante 16
Ironside: posts the ante 16
Onetumeni: posts the ante 16
tamasam31: posts the ante 16
Windsor03: posts the ante 16
idiotp0ker: posts the ante 16
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to luffeme [8c]
Dealt to tom1939 [6s]
Dealt to Ironside [2d 6h 7s]
Dealt to Onetumeni [5s]
Dealt to tamasam31 [5c]
Dealt to Windsor03 [3s]
Dealt to idiotp0ker [7h]
luffeme: brings in for 24
tom1939: folds
Ironside: raises 56 to 80
Onetumeni: folds
tamasam31: folds
Windsor03: folds
idiotp0ker: folds
luffeme: calls 56
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to luffeme [8c] [8d]
Dealt to Ironside [2d 6h 7s] [3h]
Ironside: bets 80
luffeme: calls 80
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to luffeme [8c 8d] [9h]
Dealt to Ironside [2d 6h 7s 3h] [3d]
Ironside: bets 160
luffeme: calls 160
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to luffeme [8c 8d 9h] [7d]
Dealt to Ironside [2d 6h 7s 3h 3d] [Kh]
Ironside: bets 160
luffeme: calls 160
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Ironside [2d 6h 7s 3h 3d Kh] [7c]
Ironside: bets 160
luffeme: calls 160
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ironside: shows [2d 6h 7s 3h 3d Kh 7c] (Lo: K,7,6,3,2)
luffeme: shows [4h 6d 8c 8d 9h 7d Ah] (Lo: 8,7,6,4,A)
luffeme collected 1392 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1392 | Rake 0
Seat 1: luffeme showed [4h 6d 8c 8d 9h 7d Ah] and won (1392) with Lo: 8,7,6,4,A
Seat 2: tom1939 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ironside showed [2d 6h 7s 3h 3d Kh 7c] and lost with Lo: K,7,6,3,2
Seat 5: Onetumeni folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tamasam31 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Windsor03 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: idiotp0ker folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

hand 1......................FOLD

hand 2.....................FOLD


















proberly

the question is when

as soon as somebody brings in...FOLD

first hand i hd 234 premium hand why fold?

Hand 1: once the Jack comes I'd have to tried to limit the pot. It wouldn't have saved that many chips but I'd hope that any observant player, who was capable of folding, would get the message that I was only being aggressive when I was ahead. So later on I'd expect them to fold if it appeared that I had a made hand.

Hand 2: A lot of the cards you needed were out, but in that position in the tournament  I think the potential reward is too high to fold - c'est la vie.

1st hand Tom should have been out on 4th, but made a very poor call with 9 low against 2 raisers...lucky fish.
Kaz trying to bluff a hand he just can't.

2nd hand luffeme is just bizarre, I have seen this type of play in HORSE, but playing purely Razz that way...must be a learner to play that bad surely.

kaz was a fish playing ne2 till 7th

icluding a broadway for low once