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$33 turbo SNG on Full Tilt. First few hands everyone is on roughly 1500 chips I receive  Qs 8s in the SB 3 callers and I call, BB checks.

Flop (5 players) Pot 200

Ad 8h 7s

check,check UTG bets 50, 1 caller, myself and the BB follow suit

Turn 4s (4 players) Pot 400

UTG bets 225, a caller and I go all-in for about 1200 total

Is this a risk worth taking or should I be simply calling UTGs bet here on the turn?

too risky i think. His 225 bet seems quite strong.

You can just call seeing as though the pot is 625? and would be 850, but i wouldnt be overly confident if you rivered your 2nd pair.

Spadeball or 8 one time.

Pass preflop. You need to play ubertight in the early stages, it's not worth messing around with very marginal hands here. You need to catch a monster flop AND be paid off, which is not worth it.

I still can't believe you made up with Q 8 Nick - u feeling ok?

What sort of flop are you looking to hit with Qs 8s?

 Js Ts 9s obv

9s Ts Js  would be my preference.

Fold preflop, yes I'm nitting it up with noflops here. Despite your massive pot odds you have to play the whole hand oop with a hand that catches a monster rarely, most of the time you get a flop like this and end up playing marginal situations and doing your chips. No offence to OP you have to be good post flop to get away with this, given your question i doubt this is true.

Ok flop call is fine its only 50 with 2pgk, utg's range with this min donk bet could be alot of things. 4 callers.

4 callers and utg leads again but bigger he has something big here just about all of the time, his min bet on the flop is a bad player slowplaying no doubt. Range here has to be two pair hands, set or 56 for turned straight. Or even worse for you  Aspades x spades, which has you in real trouble. Also this gets a flat call, which no doubt has you beat as well.

Pushing all in here is suicide in my mind, the chance of both players folding here (still bb to act as well) is small around 20% would be my guess. This is call or fold, i don't mind a call but I'm check folding any river that isn't a spade, 8 or q. As horneris correctly states don't get excited about q and an 8 or even the spade maybe no good. I really don't think folding is that bad here.

After watching saome of green goblins videos on cardrunners you really do appreciate how supertight you have to be at the start of these SNG's.
I agree with Floppy here and fold preflop.

Thanks for the comments guys felt the play was a bit risky myself the pot was about 1000 felt that I could win it there and then also had some outs to boot. Luckily this time everyone folded. Suprised many people looking to fold pre-flop I always assume this to be an auto-call maybe something I should consider in the future.

Thanks again.

Granny

standard PF fold.
as you called for "value" i suppose. you're only doing so PE and after the flop to hit an 8 on the turn. nothing else. go back to the drawing board and learn how to play turbos properly.

Getting a bit snipey in here. I was basically looking for comments on one particular hand, the one I posted. The above poster believes I am a bad player based on this one hand with comments like "go back to the drawing board". I don't really get this. Been noticing this has been a theme on Blonde for a little while now seems sad that you can't post about a hand without people jumping on the bandwagon to tell you how bad a player you are. 

I actually think he is doing you a huge favour by highlighting a flaw in your game that you were unaware of.

Flushy, you pass preflop too?

I agree. There are many better ways of giving advise and helping.  And in no way is he doing Granny a "favour".

I agree with Flushy. Tempie might put it a bit harshly but he's a cranky sod so you'll have to forgive him for that. Temp is right though in what he says (upto the "learn how to play properly" part)

Flushy comments like "learn how to play turbos properly" are condesending comments hardly advice is it? There is a difference. Why feel the need to make comments like this based on one hand. Especially strange after I make a "summing-up" post before his comments

It did make you take notice though!

We can all sit around the PHA campfire singing song's and hugging, or we can all grow slightly thicker skin and learn some shit (even if it means occasionally feeling picked upon)

I think GD has a point here and the folk criticising his game are well wide of the mark.  He is a consistenly good tournament player and on occasions I have seen him play he always seems to go deep no matter the level.

I'm still suprised though that he limped with Q 8 - way to loose for you mate!  I'd have passed in the BB if you called agaisnt me.  :-)

  ;tightend;

I think comments like "learn how to play turbos properly" are downright rude. He IS trying to learn, that's why he posted in the first place.

Just because it's a forum that doesn't mean you're not talking to real people.

Boldie says "he's a cranky sod so you'll have to forgive him" Why will we have to forgive him, does he have a special licence?

If everyone behaved like that in real life, there would be a lot more people walking about with teeth missing.

Think I will be limping on your BB more often Bandit  ;D Are you playing the cash game at Cincin's tonight?

No mate am on an early shift all week and i have tanned all my dough after that clown put me tilt other night at the stanley.

I have to agree with Tom- The guy was asking for CONSTRUCTIVE criticism as to the hand, and this is surely what this board is about.
Some of the responces where plain rude and will put off others asking questions, thus denying us the pleasure discecting the hands.

There's just no need.

The call pre flop really isn't that bad, that of course makes the flop call correct, on the turn once the raise comes and other guy has pushed it's a fold all the way. In the early stages of these tournaments you don't want to risk your stack, unless the pot odds are completely clear. If the 225 had been flat called by the second player there's a decent payoff if you hit, and you aren't even that bad to call and fold the missed river. Folding on the turn is the way to go here though, it has been exceptionally cheap so far, maybe you were hoping to see a cheap river card too, it's not how I would choose to play it but it's not as awful as people are making out. My personal preference playing 6 Seater non turbo on cryptos is to be pretty rocky early on, but I see a flop if the price is right there's enough nutters out there at that level to pay you off if you hit somethin big. It's not that bad, but I think the fold pre flop is probably the best option until you are really confident with ur play after the flop, don't find yourself calling all in on draws or with any hand this early unless ur pretty damn confident at this stage though.

If the second player to act just calls you have to call the turn too, but pushing again risking ur stack achieves nothing here, 1200 chips is still plenty if you miss as you probably do. SPade or 8 on the river to play it,