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Was stuck with indecision both pre-flop and post and I don't feel I made the right choices at either point.   Pre-flop my initial thoughts were to push but the flat call from GWTW and the huge stacks acting next slowed me down. By this point it starts bleeping like mad and I bottled it and called thinking it wasn't as bad as folding and I could reassess if it comes back round to me. No such luck and it ends up catching a huge number of callers (all hands for the previous 30mins had at most 3 on the flop). The flop is horrible (as is any that doesn't have a T). Again I'm stuck in neutral when the bleeps hit and I push more in desperation than confidence that it would get through. Although to be honest I expected to see a J more than the flush.

I'd go sit in the corner with the dunce cap on but Ive already been there a while and the other kids are beginning to refer to it as 'Mark's Chair'

My first though when I got the call was I should have pushed pre and I'm expecting a list of 'easy push' replies but interested to see if anybody does anything different (maybe, call then check/fold the flop? fold pre?)

Seat 1: Huggan ($26,488.32 in chips)
Seat 2: nellion00 ($65,617.44 in chips)
Seat 3: nurmster ($19,965.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 4: MrsDK ($58,260.00 in chips)
Seat 5: JAG ($46,473.62 in chips)
Seat 6: GWTW ($26,011.50 in chips)
Seat 7: happybhoy74 ($24,768.78 in chips)
Seat 8: lanfeust79 ($126,602.48 in chips)
Seat 9: Porninho ($122,951.12 in chips)
MrsDK: Post SB $2,000.00
JAG: Post BB $4,000.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to happybhoy74 [Ts Td]
Dealt to nellion00 [Qh Th]
GWTW: Call $4,000.00
happybhoy74: Call $4,000.00
lanfeust79: Fold
Porninho: Call $4,000.00
Huggan: Fold
nellion00: Call $4,000.00
nurmster: Fold
MrsDK: Fold
JAG: Check
*** FLOP *** [8h Jh 4h]
JAG: Check
GWTW: Check
happybhoy74: Allin $20,768.78
Porninho: Fold
nellion00: Call $20,768.78
JAG: Fold
GWTW: Fold
*** TURN *** [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [Ad]
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $63,537.56 Rake $0.00
nellion00: wins $63,537.56

Pre-flop it's either push or fold.  If you call and there are other callers after you, it's going to be hard to make anyone fold with 16K+ in the pot after the flop, and it's also likely that your TT will be behind on the flop with several players still in the hand.

I push here.  You've got enough to severly dent all the stacks (except maybe the biggest two), and with just 6xBB left in my stack I want to push with a decent hand, and TT is certainly that, and is more than likely ahead pre-flop.

Id have pushed pre flop instantly.


Id probs end up check/folding the flop.

Id be tempted to push the flop with the 10 of hearts tho.

no offence but if you could see he was holding  Qh Th then why did you push on the flop?  ;whistle;

were you playing 2 accounts and chip dumping? ;D

lol, forgot to edit it for dramatic impact.

push pre flop everytime for me!

Pushing was my first thought but like Mike Patton indecision clouded my vision. How low would your pp have to be before you don't push? 66 and less, i think i am folding, 77 i'm the wrong person to ask, 88 99 & TT are in my discomfort zone, my gut instinct says this is where it gets marginal (although i'll be pushing the tens in future ;)).

I am pushing with 88+ AQ & AK, I might even push with lesser Aces in EP.

shove ATC

Shove 77

Probably shove 66 as well.

Dont see why not.

55?

Now your pushing it.

No, I was pushing it with TT, and probably down to 66.  Not sure about 55...

Im insta- shoving a10+ 55+ here, with a read our utg donk limper i may push any push any ace, any pair and any pictures.

 Obv 1010 is a insta shove smile and profit.

Cheers for the replies, made the decision recently to play mtts exclusively and should have racked up 70 by the end of the month. Don't know why I didn't push tbh I'd have certainly done it in later positions but I'm a little surprised at how low you'd all go in this position but I guess that tallies with my recent results, I'm making it down to the last 10%-20% regularly enough but seem to run out of steam too often. I guess I need to loosen up a bit or be a bit more proactive at this stge or a little earlier. I'll bare that in mind for the future.

Ta

Maybe too regularly.....

I am pushing 22+ A2+ QJ+

Good one last night 2nd position  Th Ts 1st to act calls i have about 11 BB's and push. folds back to him he types "will i call i have AK" i say "good" he calls doesnt hit leaves him with about 2 BB last a few hands and hangs around to ridicule me for my terrible play for 10 minutes......... ;D

Good to see them hold up for you (as they bloody well should).

Crazy horse  :)

Thats maybe a little wild for me just now, I can't remember who said it (think it might have been Dali) but I heard a quote once about sculpturing elephants that went "Sculpting elephants is easy. All you do is start with a block of stone and remove everything that doesn't look like an elephant". I'm still at the block of stone stage at the mo but next month I'll look at chipping down my starting reqs in the middle to late stages and see if I can trade off some of the 20% finishes for some final tables and see how it goes.

Good job, always look to progress your play in MTT's, you will never play a perfect tournament, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try!

Getting to the sharp end as often as you are you will be getting enough practice in on your end game that hopefully you can trade that 20% of finishes for 20% of finals!