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Title: Your move........................
Post by: M3boy on June 01, 2007, 12:34:04 AM
Game #4524192824: Hold'em NL (£1/£2) - 2007/05/31 - 22:52:09 (UK)
Table "Netherlands" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: M3Boy (£215.44 in chips)
Seat 2: warning (£404.45 in chips)
Seat 3: ldu03204 sits out
Seat 4: Theoxolos (£471.30 in chips)
Seat 5: JensLE (£190 in chips)
Seat 6: gul_3 (£208.25 in chips)
warning: posts small blind £1
Theoxolos: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to M3Boy [Kh Ks]
JensLE: folds
gul_3: folds
M3Boy: raises to £8
warning: folds
Theoxolos: raises to £14
M3Boy: raises to £39
Theoxolos: calls £25
----- FLOP ----- [5h 6c 4c]
Theoxolos: bets £102

Theoxolos has been betting heavy pre and post flop - with lots of overbets on flops/turns and rivers - mostly not being called.

What do you do and why?


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: temp0r on June 01, 2007, 12:55:25 AM
if you flat call thats 2/3 of your stack in there. plenty of scare cards could come on the turn so i'd rather get it in the middle now.

i'd hazard a guess at  Qc Kc ???


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: M3boy on June 01, 2007, 01:14:32 AM
if you flat call thats 2/3 of your stack in there. plenty of scare cards could come on the turn so i'd rather get it in the middle now.

i'd hazard a guess at  Qc Kc ???

Yes I agree a call is out of the question .



Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: Smart Money on June 01, 2007, 04:39:02 AM
I would be very surprised if you get any replies that don't say "all-in."

He's most likely drawing. Even if he has got lucky then he's paid over the odds pre-flop anyway so you have to pay him.


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: boldie on June 01, 2007, 08:27:28 AM
I'm thinking he has either AK clubs or TT+ pocket pair.

It's a raise (and therefore push) every time.


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: jakally on June 01, 2007, 09:07:19 AM
I would be very surprised if you get any replies that don't say "all-in."


All In!!

Given the way he has played previously, there's no way I'm folding here.
This is the kind of situation that you are more often than not pleasantly surprised by how far ahead you are.

I've been seeing an increasing number of players using the min reraise PF with a medium PP (99 - JJ), and wouldn't be surprised if he was in this range.


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: kinboshi on June 01, 2007, 10:56:55 AM
Instapush.

With your read on him, he could be on a huge range of possible hands - most of which you're ahead.


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: TightEnd on June 01, 2007, 12:12:32 PM
Instadwell


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: byronkincaid on June 01, 2007, 12:18:09 PM
whenever I'm min 3 bet like that it always seems to be AA, I always pay them off tho :(


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 01, 2007, 01:44:19 PM
Pushy push push!


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: RichD on June 01, 2007, 02:46:28 PM
U got his vp$ aggresion etc to hand?


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: M3boy on June 01, 2007, 03:32:03 PM
Have never seen this person before that session.

I will dig out the hand history and post the result later.

And yes, I did push.


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: Tragic on June 01, 2007, 07:59:42 PM
77? :P


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: AlexMartin on June 01, 2007, 09:28:19 PM
I would be very surprised if you get any replies that don't say "all-in."

He's most likely drawing. Even if he has got lucky then he's paid over the odds pre-flop anyway so you have to pay him.

Critical point. Ship.


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: M3boy on June 01, 2007, 09:32:42 PM
And here it is.............................

M3Boy: raises to £176.44 and is all-in
Theoxolos: calls £74.44
----- TURN ----- [5h 6c 4c][9c]
----- RIVER ----- [5h 6c 4c 9c][6d]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
M3Boy: shows [Kh Ks] (Two Pairs, Kings and Sixes, Nine high)
Theoxolos: shows [2h 3h] (A Straight, Six high)
Theoxolos collected £428.88 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £431.88 Main pot £428.88 Rake £3
Board [5h 6c 4c 9c 6d]
Seat 1: M3Boy (button) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with Two Pairs, Kings and Sixes, Nine high
Seat 2: warning (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Theoxolos (big blind) showed [2h 3h] and won (£428.88) with A Straight, Six high
Seat 5: JensLE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gul_3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: GlasgowBandit on June 01, 2007, 09:47:08 PM
OMG - I cant believe he has raised and then called a re-raise with this!!!



Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: M3boy on June 01, 2007, 09:51:32 PM
Tell me about it!!

He sat out the VERY next hand and never returned :(


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: temp0r on June 01, 2007, 10:08:47 PM
was probably on the phone to his mates straight away telling of how sick he was!


Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: Smart Money on June 02, 2007, 01:43:12 AM
It's always shocking to lose a hand like this but the thing is, 75% of the time here you take the pot down on the flop with no idea of how poor his pre-flop play was.

(10% of the time, he stays in and you take his stack. 5% of the time you get an extra bet out of him, and 10% of the time he stacks you.)




Title: Re: Your move........................
Post by: M3boy on June 02, 2007, 07:37:12 AM
It's always shocking to lose a hand like this but the thing is, 75% of the time here you take the pot down on the flop with no idea of how poor his pre-flop play was.

(10% of the time, he stays in and you take his stack. 5% of the time you get an extra bet out of him, and 10% of the time he stacks you.)




I know, just doesnt feel like it atm. Have plenty more shockers - but they are not going on here.