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Title: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: byronkincaid on June 04, 2007, 05:11:43 PM
1/2 6 max crypto

UTG ($194 stack) raises to 8. I'm in the BB and raise to 24 with Kh Ks. UTG calls.

Flop 2d Qh 3h

I bet 30 and get called

Turn Qs

I check/call his 66 bet

River Ad

I check, he goes all in for 74

call? He could have a busted flush draw maybe but WTF else do I beat?






Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: Tragic on June 04, 2007, 07:35:27 PM
I would bet a little more on that flop I think 40-45$, the thing about calling the turn, if he actually has a queen ur drawing dead to a K anyway, it's not like ur playing to try and dodge the ace on the river, if he has a flush draw u want to get it in on the turn. I would say bet more on the flop and raise all in (or pass if u believe him for a Q) on the turn, then u don't have such a horrible decision.


Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: boldie on June 04, 2007, 07:45:46 PM
I have a thing against KK ATM as they busted me out of a lot of sats and STT's (me holding them) so I might be a bit biased but it's a clear fold for me here. Indeed a bigger raise preflop would be nice ..but OK. =i would have bet bigger on the flop. the check call is OK on the turn (you could have moved in here but he ain't gonna fold) and it's a dead board on the river...you might aswell safe yourself the 74$


Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: AlexMartin on June 04, 2007, 08:12:04 PM
Ur beat, easy fold.


Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: byronkincaid on June 04, 2007, 10:03:37 PM
Ur beat, easy fold.

That's what I was hoping he'd think :(

Seat 1: -Gotcha- ($194 in chips)
Seat 2: m4dc4p ($214.95 in chips)
Seat 4: BigMonkey ($280.25 in chips)
Seat 5: thesparw ($205.90 in chips)
Seat 6: ldu03204 ($232.90 in chips)
thesparw: posts small blind $1
ldu03204: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to -Gotcha- [Jh Jd]
Agentu joins the table at seat #3
-Gotcha-: raises to $8
m4dc4p: folds
BigMonkey: folds
thesparw: calls $7
ldu03204: raises to $24
-Gotcha-: calls $16
thesparw: folds
----- FLOP ----- [2d Qh 3h]
ldu03204: bets $30
-Gotcha-: calls $30
----- TURN ----- [2d Qh 3h][Qs]
ldu03204: checks
-Gotcha-: bets $66
ldu03204: calls $66
----- RIVER ----- [2d Qh 3h Qs][Ad]
ldu03204: checks
-Gotcha-: bets $74 and is all-in
ldu03204: calls $74
----- SHOW DOWN -----
-Gotcha-: shows [Jh Jd] (Two Pairs, Queens and Jacks, Ace high)
ldu03204: shows [Kh Ks] (Two Pairs, Kings and Queens, Ace high)
ldu03204 collected $393 from Main pot


Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: boldie on June 04, 2007, 10:08:40 PM
jesus that's all i can say about that one


Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2007, 10:16:12 PM
In the end he has to call $74 into $320ish right, getting over 4-1

I wonder in practice whether 1 time in 5 KK is going to be winning there against say a busted flush draw (or as it happens a ballsy played JJ!) rather than well behind trip Q, any Ace etc

I suppose it is going to be.


Nice try though!



Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: totalise on June 04, 2007, 10:39:48 PM
Byron,

you put him squarely on KK huh?



Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: byronkincaid on June 04, 2007, 10:53:46 PM
Byron,

you put him squarely on KK huh?



yeah man my reads is getting oarsome!

well, i kinda thought maybe I could get him off AK but if I had more than 30 secs with other bloody tables bleeping at me I might have just checked, but also 3 betting light is so rampent now you can't really put him on such a tight range he could have like TT or a flush draw or something, I dunno, I'm running really bad AGAIN, can't you give me some lessons or something pretty pls  :kiss:


Title: Re: KK only good as a bluff catcher
Post by: Bongo on June 04, 2007, 11:39:38 PM
If he called the turn with AK why would he fold now?

TT and a flush draw - you beat them at showdown, no need to bet.