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3-6 online cash NLHE. You $200 Other guy $250
Other guy (tricky LAG) limps on button. He probably hasn't classified you yet. You big blind make it $20 to go with  Aspades Ahrt
Flat call.

Flop  8h 9c 9d

You bet $30. Other guy reraises to $90

?????????????

How come you're playing $3-$6 with just $200

As the hand plays out I shove expecting to be called and to be ahead almost all of the time. Also, It's fine to check this flop to him.

The fact that you're so short (relative to the blinds) means that there is no decision to make.

As long as you raise sufficiently pre-flop, then you should very rarely lay down AA post-flop with the 33BBs you have.

Besides, who limps on the button in an un-opened pot!? It's just as likely that he has KK/QQ/draw than a 9 anyway. (If he's poor enough to limp here, then he's poor enough to limp with KK.)

Yuk. But im not folding.

insta shove, and raise more preflop please

Ship it the hell in if he has a 9 reload.

You folded, didn't you? LOL.

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This is interesting. How much does AA deserve unopened pot early position 3 handed cash?

20 is fine but if he really is a LAG you could raise it upto 28 and he's still likely to call.

It's a shove on the flop for me.

i raise whatever my standard raise is for the game, the fact i have AA does not change this...... Out of position with a button limper i am certainly raising more than $20. I make it at least $26-30 pre flop.

How much would you raise preflop if you had say AK or 1010?

Is he really going to raise you $60 if he's hit trip 9's?? Very doubtful in my mind...

maybe tens, jacks or a straight draw, representing the 9. i think you're right.

Maybe I should say 'I' would have flat called with trip 9's and looked to have taken your whole stack on the turn, surely the raise is not the move, especially with only $150 left, virtually any card on the turn and the AA will fire again, pot commiting himself...

Flat call looks dodgy.

 Depends on the level of thinking ur at with your opp. Against good opponents im jamming with a 9 on the flop.

I see valid points for playing it either way, personally I prefer the flat call...

To be honest with these stack sizes the money goes in with AA what ever happens, if he has a 9 reload. I also dont think he can be that tricky a lag if he only has $250 at 3/6 table. Doesnt leave much room to lag it up.....

I raise about 90% of the time here when I have a 9 if I think the opponent has a big overpair and has me down as a lag. (which admittedly is VERY rare)

Yes good point.

I saw another AA run into trouble today, standard bad beat, lovely line at the end though.

3-6 NLHE.
A raise PF, B reraise 6xBB, A call, pot $100
FLOP  Js 8h 5d.
A bet $50, B reraise to $150, A call
turn  9d, A check, B bet $200, A call
River  2h A check B bet $200 A reraise $450 B call.

Showdown A has 2s 2d , B has  Ahrt Ac

B: ****** ******
A: nh
B: nh? you're a ****ing donkey
A: you lost
B: how can you call with that, you ****ing donkey, what are you waiting for, the 2?
A: thought you were bluffing
B: go read a book
A: Oh yeah, can you recommend any, maaaaestro?
(pause)
B: Yeah.....'Shrek'. Plenty about ****ing donkeys in that, you ****ing moron.


B is sitting out.
A: nh

I loolled.

Firstly we can rule out TT/JJ given he is a LAG on the button. Secondly why would he want to represent a 9 when he has one of these hands?

cos he's a ****?

de la ship all in if he has 9 reload

We arent argueing about whether or not he has a 9. The simple fact is we raised to $20 preflop from a short stack and aint gonna fold these puppies. Its gets a lot more complicated when you have more money infront of you.

Fuzzy logic.

Part of him knows that he may be up against AK AQ and wishes to defend his JJ TT against what may be a continuation bet.
Part of him knows he may be up against AA KK QQ but very unlikely that he's up against x9, so may as well represent the 9.

Add these two together, you get a big raise.

As a card carrying member of the LAG brigade i can't see him having TT or JJ on the button here.

YEah he's likely to raise the button here with JJ TT use the image and all that, OP did say "tricky" though :P

I think he sounds more like a donkey lag given his stack size and the fact that hes limped the button which, well, you shouldn't be doing generally speaking.

As it stands hes probably got overpair or absolute air here and hes just decided to make a play at it figuring you for whiffed overcards, because limping then raising the flop is like  'yes, i have AA', which you obviously have. A LAG isnt limpping a hand with a 9 in it there or probably 88 either and hes definately not raising the flop with 98 because he figures that you generally have overcards and he wants some value. Only hands that makes slightest sense here are JT and JJ-KK tbh.

I wouldn't be able to get all my money in that pot fast enough.

if we ship isn't he laying down anything we beat and only calling with stuff we can't beat?!

flat call the then shove turn surely?

I like that if we have position and/or stacks are deeper.

As it is pot is $220+ and we have $90 back if we call, so it's unlikely that he'll bluff again (if he is bluffing) as he knows he won't be able to push us off the pot with the near 3.5/1 odds we'd be getting ($90 into $310.)

Jamming here will receive a call from a draw/underpair (to our AA) whereas a blank/scare card on turn may stop him from putting anymore into the pot.

Lots of players do..........

We are either miles ahead or miles behind, i like the idea of letting him bluff again and giving the dreaded free card in this spot.

i reckon button has TJ, i reckon hero flat called and shipped when the 7 hit the turn, its obv a shove on the flop, for any poker player.