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Title: MTT hand, early doors
Post by: aelredx on July 21, 2007, 12:31:18 AM
PokerStars Game #11044024707: Tournament #55429450, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/20 - 19:11:26 (ET)
Table '55429450 42' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: aelred (2870 in chips)
Seat 2: Bdbeatslayer (3800 in chips)
Seat 3: goldfishzz (6517 in chips)
Seat 4: Rounder9898 (3090 in chips)
Seat 5: DahJinerat (2870 in chips)
Seat 6: enricoppola (1897 in chips)
Seat 7: royhartrams (1800 in chips)
Seat 8: joscha45 (2220 in chips)
Seat 9: andersbisse (1856 in chips)
enricoppola: posts small blind 10
royhartrams: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aelred [Ks Jc]
joscha45: folds
andersbisse: folds
aelred: raises 60 to 80
Bdbeatslayer: folds
goldfishzz: folds
Rounder9898: folds
DahJinerat: calls 80
enricoppola: calls 70
royhartrams: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [8h Jd 2d]
enricoppola: bets 1817 and is all-in
royhartrams: folds
aelred: ............


what do you do here?

I thought any hand that is strong - trips, or even a dodgy J8 two pair would certainly not just open shove the flop like that.. and any other decent holding that beats me preflop wudda backraised pre....

Puzzled, i made the call. I GUESS he had some kind of flushy straighty pairy type draw..

aelred: calls 1817
DahJinerat: folds
*** TURN *** [8h Jd 2d] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [8h Jd 2d 3d] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
enricoppola: shows [Js 2c] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
aelred: shows [Ks Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
enricoppola collected 3954 from pot
aelred said, "v wierd play"
aelred said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3954 | Rake 0
Board [8h Jd 2d 3d 4d]
Seat 1: aelred showed [Ks Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: Bdbeatslayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: goldfishzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rounder9898 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: DahJinerat (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: enricoppola (small blind) showed [Js 2c] and won (3954) with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 7: royhartrams (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: joscha45 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: andersbisse folded before Flop (didn't bet)



Title: Re: MTT hand, early doors
Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 21, 2007, 12:33:13 AM
I find at this level a huge overbet is almost always a made hand.


Title: Re: MTT hand, early doors
Post by: Jim-D on July 21, 2007, 12:39:09 AM
I find at this level a huge overbet is almost always a made hand.

I'm starting to find this at most levels now


Title: Re: MTT hand, early doors
Post by: BigTomatoes on July 21, 2007, 01:32:08 AM

 just fold the hand and you dont get into this spot , K J is useless at the best of times but level 1 of a deepish satck tourney in early position its instantly mucked.

 however , after playin the hand i think its a pretty easy fold when he pushes , if you call your only hoping he has a QJ o 10 J , if he could easily have A J , 88 , 22 , its a horrible call from him , but even if your up against 2 diamonds your racing where theres no need to really.

 fold for me. and you know you should have folded as well.


Title: Re: MTT hand, early doors
Post by: bhoywonder on July 22, 2007, 03:53:49 PM
a good player will overbet his 2 pair more than a novice will attempt to trap,cos he knows slowplaying is death usually

fold


Title: Re: MTT hand, early doors
Post by: temp0r on July 22, 2007, 04:52:11 PM
i think pocket ducks are normally turned over here. to be fair you shouldn't be raising with that shit anyway.