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Title: How to Play on this flop
Post by: jakally on October 01, 2007, 08:18:07 PM

6 handed $1/$2.

3 players in the hand, only been playing 5 - 10 mins so reads are a bit dodgy  :

UTG + 1         $96         Plays too many hands, normally quite passively.
C/O                $210       Player normally plays a bit higher, been splashing around a bit.
You (BB)         $197       Played solid so far.

UTG+1                         Rs to $8.
C/O                             Calls $8
You    Qc  Qs               Rs to $32

UTG+1 Calls, C/O Calls.

Flop                Qh Jh Th

Whats your move?


(this isn't a miracle hand / royal flush story, just not sure best way to play this)




Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: AlexMartin on October 01, 2007, 09:04:20 PM
Im betting 2/3 pot here.


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: Longy on October 01, 2007, 10:20:44 PM
I make a standard c-bet at it, which for me like alex is 2/3-3/4 of the pot so something like $45.


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: boldie on October 01, 2007, 10:32:45 PM
I lead out here..about 20.

edit..but remember I'm shit at cash games...can't even fold KK pre-flop against Rich ;)


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: AdamG on October 01, 2007, 11:02:09 PM
c-bet the flop, get 1 call, Q turn, 1/2 pot it. he shoves, u call gg.


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: jakally on October 02, 2007, 09:45:07 AM
c-bet the flop, get 1 call, Q turn, 1/2 pot it. he shoves, u call gg.

Yes, that was my next question, what to do if you CB and oppo. pushes.
Is this a situation that you are getting your chips in whatever, or is there any scenario where you lay this down?


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: Laxie on October 02, 2007, 09:48:22 AM
Which one pushed?


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: Bongo on October 02, 2007, 10:26:59 AM
c-bet the flop, get 1 call, Q turn, 1/2 pot it. he shoves, u call gg.

Yes, that was my next question, what to do if you CB and oppo. pushes.
Is this a situation that you are getting your chips in whatever, or is there any scenario where you lay this down?

I think you have to call.

If UTG pushes then he has a pitiful amount left, and if C/O pushes then the pot will be laying you very good odds...

$96 in preflop

C/B of about $60 (2/3 pot, just less than UTGs stack)

Leaves you with $105 back, so if c/o pushes pot is $96 + $120 + $105 = $321, so you're getting 3:1 on your money and are about 2:1 to house up.



Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: boldie on October 02, 2007, 05:03:14 PM
and he doesn't actually have to have the flush or straight yet.

yeah if someone moves in I call here ..and curse my luck when I reload ;)


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: Bongo on October 02, 2007, 05:06:06 PM
and he doesn't actually have to have the flush or straight yet.

Exactly, I was just running through the worst case scenario though.


Title: Re: How to Play on this flop
Post by: Smart Money on October 02, 2007, 05:56:53 PM
Yep- flop plays itself really. As others have said; 2/3 pot ($60 into $96) and call/push any raise.

Even if a heart or 4 to a straight arrived on the turn you really have to push the rest in, as worse case scenario is that it's costing you $105 to win the $322 (UTG+1 folded, CO called flop) that would be into the middle. (Over 3/1 with 10 outs that MAY not even be needed.)