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Title: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TightEnd on May 20, 2008, 03:30:50 PM
Thanks very much to riverdave...Dave Penly..for agreeing to answer your questions for a week

riverdave is, quite frankly, a bit sick as those who follow his online "spin ups" and "spin downs" will be aware!


Recently in the live scene he won the PLO Event at the DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/index.php?affiliate=blonde)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/index.php?affiliate=blonde) Norwegian Poker Championships for £13,000. In March he won the £500 event at the GUKPT Vic week for £26,600 (becoming the first player to win two GUKPT festival events this year) and his results go back years, all over the UK and Europe.

Dave finished in the top 150 in 2006's WSOP Main event for $47,000. Yet as the mood takes him he'll still be occasionally found in small comps at Luton or London.

Online he can turn micro stakes into fortunes and back again. Recent successes include scores for over $25,000 on Stars in events such as the $109, the $55 Omaha rebuy and the $88 shorthanded.( Recent failures include losing it again..Dave can confirm or deny this!).

In a recent article on The Hendon Mob Dave's friend Neil Channing says:

"Dave Penly may be one of the sickest degenerates I've ever met, but it doesn't stop me admiring him as a great player. I was delighted that we got heads-up, where we decided to do no business and just play, and I was genuinely pleased that he got a decent result which he richly deserved. I'm sure Dave's trip on the poker rollercoaster will carry on being a turbulent one, but I'm equally sure that the highs will be totally amazing."


Away form Poker Dave is a mean pool player, supports Woking FC and ...no that it, he plays poker!



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TightEnd on May 20, 2008, 03:32:50 PM
riverdave will answer for a week, from now..so fire away


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Royal Flush on May 20, 2008, 03:34:28 PM
Have you ever won 1 buyin in a cash game and just got up and left?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: DaveShoelace on May 20, 2008, 03:39:56 PM
As someone actually called Dave and using the name dave in your screen name, what are your thoughts on people like me, not called Dave, but who uses Dave as a screenname?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: I KNOW IT on May 20, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
What happened to that guy with glasses you used to hang around with?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: action man on May 20, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
who owes you money on the circuit?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Dingdell on May 20, 2008, 04:26:26 PM
who owes you money on the circuit?


Ooooh - there has to be more to this question than silver shorts is letting on??


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: boldie on May 20, 2008, 04:37:17 PM
How sick do you feel after blowing a lot..or do you just think "I'll spin it up again ayways so F it, I've had fun"


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Longy on May 20, 2008, 05:26:29 PM
Is your gambling purely poker or do you bet on sports, play table games etc.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Karabiner on May 20, 2008, 05:26:53 PM
When you have to start rebuilding again, where do you start ?

I know for me it's full-ring PLO, and I may have to put some weeks of serious hours in at the 25c/50c and then 50c/$1 tables before I can build up a half-decent roll again. And I sometimes find it really hard to find the drive to do this.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TightEnd on May 20, 2008, 05:28:08 PM
Are you going to Vegas for the WSOP this year? If so playing what?


Please talk us through your spell living and playing in Vegas after your good result at the WSOP in 2006. Why did you do it and what happened?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Royal Flush on May 20, 2008, 05:36:13 PM
who owes you money on the circuit?


Ooooh - there has to be more to this question than silver shorts is letting on??

Probably the standard person who owes everyone on the board money.....

P.S. You know who you are!

P.P.S. Any danger of paying me back?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 05:39:40 PM
Thanks for asking me to do this it's a bit of an honour and Tighty assured me there were a few requests for me to do it so of course i was happy to do so.

It comes at a pretty apt time as i spent the last 2 weeks on a very sick spin up on Full Tilt playing mainly PLO around the 25/50 and 50/100 levels but occassionally dabbling up to 200/400 and with hu NL around 50/100. It of course came to an abrupt end with a pretty nasty 3 day downswing at the end of last week, so i'm in a bit of a recovery mode as we speak.

Ask anything you like poker or non poker related and i'll try and answer everything within reason.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: tikay on May 20, 2008, 05:40:10 PM
who owes you money on the circuit?


Ooooh - there has to be more to this question than silver shorts is letting on??

Probably the standard person who owes everyone on the board money.....

P.S. You know who you are!

P.P.S. Any danger of paying me back?

Damn you. You offered to sell me that Debt for 50p. I had a buyer at double that. Look, it's only a £grand, get over it.....;)


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Royal Flush on May 20, 2008, 05:42:38 PM
who owes you money on the circuit?


Ooooh - there has to be more to this question than silver shorts is letting on??

Probably the standard person who owes everyone on the board money.....

P.S. You know who you are!

P.P.S. Any danger of paying me back?

Damn you. You offered to sell me that Debt for 50p. I had a buyer at double that. Look, it's only a £grand, get over it.....;)

Nah he only owes me £550, i thought i offered to sell for £5, i must have been skint to consider 50p!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 05:49:55 PM
Have you ever won 1 buyin in a cash game and just got up and left?

Yes in fact this is often a big part of my strategy when taking a shot building a bankroll short stacking bigger games. It's not something i'm keen on doing when i think i have a long term significant edge over someone or a game, but i will sometimes play in games that im either a long term dog or neutral in and this would usually be my aim.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 05:57:39 PM
As someone actually called Dave and using the name dave in your screen name, what are your thoughts on people like me, not called Dave, but who uses Dave as a screenname?

Stars is about the only place i regularly still play under the moniker riverdave, i often find it already taken on the newer sites that have cropped up so i have a few different names now usually around a similar theme! I have a rail stalker called 77dave who's actual name is Jim some of you might know him, Hero Worship FTW!
I applaud the way you have embraced the Daveian concepts lets just hope it doesn't all end in a compound fire in the Nevada desert.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:01:30 PM
What happened to that guy with glasses you used to hang around with?

Matt Arnott he is still around playing small stakes casino tourneys and cash and home games in the South east. He had a spell in the big dealers choice game at The Western but i think it ended a bit sour.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on May 20, 2008, 06:05:06 PM
Do you still remember the old games at Yarmouth or round Coxy's workplace in Watford?! Ah, the good old days!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:06:09 PM
who owes you money on the circuit?

One long outstanding debtor on the London scene but no one on the main circuit. I can be a reasonably hard guy to nip. Sending yourself skint is a great nip avoidance tactic i can recommend to all.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: maldini32 on May 20, 2008, 06:08:52 PM
When you start a spin up, what level do u start of at?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:12:49 PM
How sick do you feel after blowing a lot..or do you just think "I'll spin it up again ayways so F it, I've had fun"

I'm kind of numb to it i have a long term goal to get in the biggest games/tourneys around with the correct bankroll to play them and i've adopted a different approach to get there. I've also tried the normal grinding approach but with limited success so it's a choice thing and i have a no regrets policy. Usually i learn something new every time so i take the positives from it. Big spin up's are usually followed by long lean painful periods so there is plenty of time to reflect on where better choices may be made in the future.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:19:51 PM
Is your gambling purely poker or do you bet on sports, play table games etc.

I used to be a total degenerate into everything but i've been pro for 3 1/2 years now and it was very soon after taking that decision that i took the decision to channel all my gamble into poker only. I do have the odd very very occasional lapse probably played blackjack half a dozen times in that period but im a scared hit and runner now rather than a real gambler at the tables. It was a lot of gamble and poker is a great release for it. I don't generally get the buzz thing though because i am trying to make a living afterall. I did feel a little something playing 200/400 PLO last week though.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:30:16 PM
When you have to start rebuilding again, where do you start ?

I know for me it's full-ring PLO, and I may have to put some weeks of serious hours in at the 25c/50c and then 50c/$1 tables before I can build up a half-decent roll again. And I sometimes find it really hard to find the drive to do this.

It depends but if i've busted so that i've left myself very little it's small tourneys something where you can win a lot relative to the buyin. $10 rebuys and $100 freezeouts on Stars have got me out of a lot of holes over the years. I'm currently playing 2 $10 PLO rebuys.
If i've left a decent amount to recover from HU cash is the usual route to riches or ruin fairly quickly. It is so swingy though and i think in future i will only use it as a quick building tool rather than a regular game once i have some kind of established bankroll. I've learnt in the recent period that i'm a lot more consistent at 6 max as far as PLO goes. NLH i'm loathe to play anything other than HU so this will see me playing even less of that game.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: vegaslover on May 20, 2008, 06:31:12 PM
Do you still play pool?
Those comps were great events for poker on the side


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:34:47 PM
Do you still remember the old games at Yarmouth or round Coxy's workplace in Watford?! Ah, the good old days!

Yes great banter and a good crowd. A few who could play too although i usually picked up a few quid! Love to play a few more fun poker events get some sorted.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:38:21 PM
Are you going to Vegas for the WSOP this year? If so playing what?


Please talk us through your spell living and playing in Vegas after your good result at the WSOP in 2006. Why did you do it and what happened?

Will answer this one when i have a bit more time as requires some thought and could be a long one.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Nem on May 20, 2008, 06:39:29 PM
biggest spin up and biggest loss?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:48:20 PM
Do you still play pool?
Those comps were great events for poker on the side
No it just feels alien on the very odd occassion i've picked up a cue lately, and so frustrating not being as good as i used to be (however bad that was) so i don't even play for fun anymore.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 06:51:04 PM
The recovery has begun just managed to take down the $10 PLO rebuy on blonde for $700 it was between 2&7 BBs last week but it's a start and still got the Stars one going with 20 left. Fk my life is the phrase of the moment.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 07:01:56 PM
biggest spin up and biggest loss?

Smallish in comparison to what you can do at Full Tilt these days but $240k whilst in Vegas in 2006 75% of that was online. Biggest loss was on the slide down from that run which was a £91000 pot on the £25/£50 PLO table on Crypto. It was a heads up game in which we were both in for between £40k and £50k stacks were now very even. There were the standard 3 or 4 reraises preflop and a king high 2 spade flop followed i had 3 kings and the king flush draw, my Scandy opponent had Aces with the ace flush draw and everything went in it came blank non pairing spade. £50k rather than 50p!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TightEnd on May 20, 2008, 07:07:48 PM
Obviously spinning up/down via playing Omaha you are riding the natural variance and swings of the game, at high levels often

Over and above that is there a style to your online game where you seek out risk/reward (play super Laggy etc etc) that exacerbates the swings? do you ever think about turning down the dial at times and grinding?


When comparing your online and live games, do you have different styles? I ask because your hold em tournament game seems "steady" and "solid", on the occasions we've played anyway.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: gatso on May 20, 2008, 07:31:42 PM
is Woking in London?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 20, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
Will answer some more later tonight, off to the Western for their monthly £200.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: WSOPaduki on May 20, 2008, 10:54:13 PM
Do you think there's a better standard of play, the higher up the levels. Say from $1-$2 plo to $25-$50 plo


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: WSOPaduki on May 20, 2008, 10:55:45 PM
Do you use any statistical software or HUD to help while playing online?

whats your opinion on playing 4 tables of 1-2 blinds with full buy in, versus 1 table of 5-10 with two short pull ups?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: AlexMartin on May 21, 2008, 12:23:37 AM
cheers for doing this Dave, wp there.

i know you have several backers, do you think that having a backer ever improves your performance in live events, in the respect that you tend to be more analytical and serious when its someone else's money rather than yours.



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 12:09:45 PM
Being ITW might have brought me some luck as the recovery continued with 1st at The Western for £3200 last night in a 52 runner field.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 12:10:13 PM
is Woking in London?

No it's in Surrey.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 12:44:25 PM
Obviously spinning up/down via playing Omaha you are riding the natural variance and swings of the game, at high levels often

Over and above that is there a style to your online game where you seek out risk/reward (play super Laggy etc etc) that exacerbates the swings? do you ever think about turning down the dial at times and grinding?


When comparing your online and live games, do you have different styles? I ask because your hold em tournament game seems "steady" and "solid", on the occasions we've played anyway.

Great question and i'm not sure how much i want to give away.... but i think any good player has to be capable of playing several different styles as your chip stack fluctuates and the type of players you come across changes you need to be able to adapt. Most people have a default style and online i'd say i do fit into the fairly laggy bracket in short handed cash games, tournaments is almost entirely dependent on the changing variables at the table. I'm certainly very capable of turning down the dial and grinding with the best of them when required.
Live tournaments i do find you get away with a lot less and also when compared to online particularly deep in tournaments there is usually a lot less play in your stack this doesn't make employing a super laggy style very easy or in my mind too profitable. If i appear steady and solid i'm happy with that. :-)


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 12:49:08 PM
Do you think there's a better standard of play, the higher up the levels. Say from $1-$2 plo to $25-$50 plo

Generally yes but there are some incredibly soft games around the 10/20 25/50 levels and some virtually impossible 1/2 2/4 line ups, it's all about game selection really. At certain times even the biggest game on full tilt is very soft.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 12:54:13 PM
Do you use any statistical software or HUD to help while playing online?

whats your opinion on playing 4 tables of 1-2 blinds with full buy in, versus 1 table of 5-10 with two short pull ups?

I keep strict records of games i've won and lost in but i don't currently use any poker trackers or HUD, if i was multi table grinding cash it's probably something i would get into but i think they aren't so relevant for tourneys due to constantly changing dynamics.

I'm no variance dodger so i'd probably take the 1 table of 5/10 and short pull ups work well in my main cash game PLO.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 01:03:34 PM
cheers for doing this Dave, wp there.

i know you have several backers, do you think that having a backer ever improves your performance in live events, in the respect that you tend to be more analytical and serious when its someone else's money rather than yours.



Having a backer certainly aids in playing out and out for the win and i do have a lot more respect for someone elses money than my own, must be my accountant background. My recent big win at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/index.php?affiliate=blonde)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/index.php?affiliate=blonde) is the first one where i've had all my own action and i don't think i played it any differently to a tournament i'd been backed in.
Having the right kind of backer is very important it's no good having someone who is going to put lots of pressure on you through the inevitable bad runs, and someone with a willingness to take a real gamble is a massive advantage. The majority of my backing relationships have been reasonably profitable for both parties.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: action man on May 21, 2008, 01:08:22 PM
nice score last night mate, ship holla!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: byronkincaid on May 21, 2008, 03:44:42 PM
how much money would someone have to give you, for you to agree to never play another hand of poker for the rest of your life?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: AlrightJack on May 21, 2008, 04:03:23 PM
What kind of women do you prefer?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 04:17:29 PM
how much money would someone have to give you, for you to agree to never play another hand of poker for the rest of your life?

I don't think there is an amount that's enough as i get an immense amount of enjoyment out of playing. If someone gave me £5 million i'd probably stop grinding the cash games and just play big tournaments all over the world.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Tractor on May 21, 2008, 04:22:11 PM
Hi,
Just one question.

Do you like curry? If so what is your favourite dish?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 04:28:49 PM
What kind of women do you prefer?

tough question variety is the spice, i don't have a specific type. One that could cope with the ups and downs of the poker lifestyle would be a good start. I'm often told i need a good woman to give my poker some purpose. Hope my PM box can cope with the deluge of applications.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 04:31:35 PM
Hi,
Just one question.

Do you like curry? If so what is your favourite dish?


Curry is definitely FTW i don't mind them a little hot probably a Lamb Madras.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TightEnd on May 21, 2008, 04:33:16 PM
How much have you "blown" on lapdancers in the last 2 years?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: action man on May 21, 2008, 04:38:07 PM
Dave penly wins the 2008 wsop ME for $7m 

what does the night out entail?

what does the future hold?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 04:44:57 PM
How much have you "blown" on lapdancers in the last 2 years?

Post Vegas '06 very little indeed doesn't do so much for me, it's like opening a fine bottle of champagne and then not being allowed to drink it!
I think the night i went out of the WSOP ME in 2006 i did $2k on a 16 hour champagne and lapdancers binge, not in Dubai's league.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
Dave penly wins the 2008 wsop ME for $7m 

what does the night out entail?

what does the future hold?

Allin in the dark every hand in the $100 rebuy on Stars, whats a night out?

Crates of Bolly and JD, one thing Vegas does have is some great clubs so VIP in a few clubs and when we all fail miserably it's off to CrazyHorse II for the lapdancer freeroll challenge.

The future has to be big tourneys in the hotspots around the world.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: gatso on May 21, 2008, 06:04:03 PM
what's your fave venue in europe (non uk)?



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 21, 2008, 06:29:10 PM
what's your fave venue in europe (non uk)?



Gran Casino Barcelona by a country mile the action is great the tournaments are usually very well run with plenty of runners, everything about the city is different class.
Best value i've seen in Europe recently was Perla Casino in Nova Gorica, Slovenia.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: boldie on May 21, 2008, 08:42:41 PM
EPT, WPT or WSOP event..what would you rather play?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 21, 2008, 08:57:10 PM
How highly do you rate Rolf Slotboom's PLO book? Is the poker world lacking in a 6-max PLO book?

Also, does Chufty's recent sick run inspire your spinup attempts?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Graham C on May 21, 2008, 09:43:27 PM
How highly do you rate Rolf Slotboom's PLO book? Is the poker world lacking in a 6-max PLO book?

Just bought it, keen to hear the replies!



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Dewi_cool on May 21, 2008, 10:59:44 PM
Dave,

you have mentioned the high's and low's, what advice would you give in terms of bankroll mangement to someone just starting off


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 22, 2008, 11:27:57 AM
What are your 3 top tournament tips for NLH?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 22, 2008, 01:09:21 PM
EPT, WPT or WSOP event..what would you rather play?

I've yet to play in a WPT so it would have to be one of those events. EPT's are great tournaments and the WSOP ME is an awesome experience but i wasn't hugely impressed by the 3 side events i played in '06.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Snatiramas on May 22, 2008, 01:20:43 PM
sunglasses or no sunglasses??

Most obnoxious opponent

Who do you most like to have at your table

Top man for doing this by the way


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 22, 2008, 01:24:19 PM
How highly do you rate Rolf Slotboom's PLO book? Is the poker world lacking in a 6-max PLO book?

Also, does Chufty's recent sick run inspire your spinup attempts?

I'm not really much of a poker book reader and i haven't seen this one. I prefer to learn from experience playing and sometimes discussing hands with other good players. I've only read Greenstein's and Lee Nelson's books but i may well take a look at this one at some point.

King Richard is a good friend and of course his run and previous runs on Pokerstars Crypto and Betfair have inspired me to try to do something similar. I know he had to reload and build up many many times on Full Tilt before the current run took off but now he is reasonably comfortable in an extemely volatile game. Some discipline he has to stick to only pulling up $8000 a time with that much on the site and on days where he might be losing $100-$150k, i certainly admire that.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 22, 2008, 01:45:09 PM
Dave,

you have mentioned the high's and low's, what advice would you give in terms of bankroll mangement to someone just starting off

I feel hugely underqualified to give anyone bankroll advice but this is now a much written about topic on the forums and in the magazines so i'd advise reading a few of those and be aware of the concepts. For an absolute beginner try to find a game/limit/tournament you can beat consistently and just play as much as you can and stick to it, don't try to run before you can walk by diversifying into other games. As you develop as a player you will eventually need to diversify or maybe just play bigger to continue improving.
I'm not quite as degen as Bluescouse but i am always taking shots at bigger games short stacked and under-rolled the key is to leave yourself enough of a bankroll to recover from in your normal game if the shot goes wrong. Another key point that i've fallen foul of a few times is to not have all your roll available and in one place because it's very easy to start chasing and keep pulling up and even if you're not tilted and playing bad with it luck/variance is a strange beast and sometimes it's just not your day. Further to that play your form up, if you are running good now is the time to gamble a little and take a shot at a bigger game. Try not to do the opposite which is play in a bigger game when you've been unlucky to recover your losses quicker, that's a surefire recipe for disaster.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 22, 2008, 02:39:28 PM
sunglasses or no sunglasses??

Most obnoxious opponent

Who do you most like to have at your table

Top man for doing this by the way

I have been a sunglasses wearer in the past but for a specific reason, i wear contact lenses and when im tired and particularly in the old smoky rooms we used to play in they can become quite irritable. I found that blocking out some of the artificial light by wearing sunglasses made it much more comfortable. I also used to wear them for big finals as you can kind of hide behind them and relax more.
These days with no smoky atmospheres and being used to big finals i no longer have the need to wear them. You'll only catch me wearing them now if i haven't slept for 36 hours! It does make me laugh when people have to take them off to read the board nearly as stupid as the donks who have to take the ipod/earphones off to hear the action.

Most obnoxious definitely Mark Teltscher he used his Ferrari line on me in the Deauville EPT a few years back, Annie Duke ran him a close 2nd when i played with her on day 4 of the WSOP 06.

Last question is so difficult because there's many different people for different reasons. Table chat and banter there's none better than Channing in England and sitting squeezed up next to Shannon Elizabeth in the Bellagio was a very pleasent experience. All round though i'm going to have to go for Thewy because he is a pleasure to play with and watch at work and he never ever believes me which has led to a good few chips coming my way. I might also be the only person in Europe up on him in coinflip situations!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 22, 2008, 03:23:22 PM
What are your 3 top tournament tips for NLH?

1. Play out and out for the win. Play lots of short handed poker and refuse to deal with less experienced short handed players, a couple of wins in the year will   make you a lot more money than a string of 6th and 7th and 5 way chops.
2. Never go below 10 BB's in a reasonably good structured tourney.
3. Know your customers and learn their traits .


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: action man on May 23, 2008, 01:58:49 AM
What are your 3 top tournament tips for NLH?

1. Play out and out for the win. Play lots of short handed poker and refuse to deal with less experienced short handed players, a couple of wins in the year will   make you a lot more money than a string of 6th and 7th and 5 way chops.
2. Never go below 10 BB's in a reasonably good structured tourney.
3. Know your customers and learn their traits .

i wish you would have told me this when i did my student overdrafts in! when i was 18 coulda saved me a fortune. People of blonde be thankful imo. i lost shiiitloads


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: julian on May 23, 2008, 02:34:23 AM
sunglasses or no sunglasses??

Most obnoxious opponent

Who do you most like to have at your table

Top man for doing this by the way

I have been a sunglasses wearer in the past but for a specific reason, i wear contact lenses and when im tired and particularly in the old smoky rooms we used to play in they can become quite irritable. I found that blocking out some of the artificial light by wearing sunglasses made it much more comfortable. I also used to wear them for big finals as you can kind of hide behind them and relax more.
These days with no smoky atmospheres and being used to big finals i no longer have the need to wear them. You'll only catch me wearing them now if i haven't slept for 36 hours! It does make me laugh when people have to take them off to read the board nearly as stupid as the donks who have to take the ipod/earphones off to hear the action.

Most obnoxious definitely Mark Teltscher he used his Ferrari line on me in the Deauville EPT a few years back, Annie Duke ran him a close 2nd when i played with her on day 4 of the WSOP 06.

Last question is so difficult because there's many different people for different reasons. Table chat and banter there's none better than Channing in England and sitting squeezed up next to Shannon Elizabeth in the Bellagio was a very pleasent experience. All round though i'm going to have to go for Thewy because he is a pleasure to play with and watch at work and he never ever believes me which has led to a good few chips coming my way. I might also be the only person in Europe up on him in coinflip situations!

aye, what with that & beating channing HU tis an elite club ur in...sigh
seriously tho, have you apportioned any of your 'on the way up' winnings to set yourself up for the years ahead, ie house etc?
call tk if fatherly advice req!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 23, 2008, 12:03:28 PM
sunglasses or no sunglasses??

Most obnoxious opponent

Who do you most like to have at your table

Top man for doing this by the way

I have been a sunglasses wearer in the past but for a specific reason, i wear contact lenses and when im tired and particularly in the old smoky rooms we used to play in they can become quite irritable. I found that blocking out some of the artificial light by wearing sunglasses made it much more comfortable. I also used to wear them for big finals as you can kind of hide behind them and relax more.
These days with no smoky atmospheres and being used to big finals i no longer have the need to wear them. You'll only catch me wearing them now if i haven't slept for 36 hours! It does make me laugh when people have to take them off to read the board nearly as stupid as the donks who have to take the ipod/earphones off to hear the action.

Most obnoxious definitely Mark Teltscher he used his Ferrari line on me in the Deauville EPT a few years back, Annie Duke ran him a close 2nd when i played with her on day 4 of the WSOP 06.

Last question is so difficult because there's many different people for different reasons. Table chat and banter there's none better than Channing in England and sitting squeezed up next to Shannon Elizabeth in the Bellagio was a very pleasent experience. All round though i'm going to have to go for Thewy because he is a pleasure to play with and watch at work and he never ever believes me which has led to a good few chips coming my way. I might also be the only person in Europe up on him in coinflip situations!

aye, what with that & beating channing HU tis an elite club ur in...sigh
seriously tho, have you apportioned any of your 'on the way up' winnings to set yourself up for the years ahead, ie house etc?
call tk if fatherly advice req!

No future planning hasn't featured yet it's in the pipeline.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 23, 2008, 12:14:26 PM
OK i still owe a Vegas story and plans for this year anything else i've missed and not realised let me know.

Yesterday was another good day started the day with $800 on my FT account and after some afternoon grinding 2/4 and 3/6 PLO HU it developed into a $30 PLO rebuy win for just shy of $3k and a series of short stack attacks on 10/20 - 100/200. A healthy $15k profit for the day which has prompted a cashout and a trip to Blackpool for the long weekend. I will have internet access in my hotel room so keep the questions coming.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: action man on May 23, 2008, 12:23:21 PM
OK i still owe a Vegas story and plans for this year anything else i've missed and not realised let me know.

Yesterday was another good day started the day with $800 on my FT account and after some afternoon grinding 2/4 and 3/6 PLO HU it developed into a $30 PLO rebuy win for just shy of $3k and a series of short stack attacks on 10/20 - 100/200. A healthy $15k profit for the day which has prompted a cashout and a trip to Blackpool for the long weekend. I will have internet access in my hotel room so keep the questions coming.

this is legendary


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: jakally on May 23, 2008, 12:26:17 PM

Sounds like you've been a pokerist for a few years now.

How did you get started, and what were your early experiences in terms of where / type of games etc...

Also, how long did it take to become a winning player?

Great thread btw.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: boldie on May 23, 2008, 01:26:52 PM
OK i still owe a Vegas story and plans for this year anything else i've missed and not realised let me know.

Yesterday was another good day started the day with $800 on my FT account and after some afternoon grinding 2/4 and 3/6 PLO HU it developed into a $30 PLO rebuy win for just shy of $3k and a series of short stack attacks on 10/20 - 100/200. A healthy $15k profit for the day which has prompted a cashout and a trip to Blackpool for the long weekend. I will have internet access in my hotel room so keep the questions coming.

this is legendary

I know I stink at poker but, other than that, why can't I spin up like that?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: byronkincaid on May 23, 2008, 02:06:30 PM
would you accept a sponsorship deal from Absolute Poker?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: maldini32 on May 23, 2008, 05:12:48 PM
OK i still owe a Vegas story and plans for this year anything else i've missed and not realised let me know.

Yesterday was another good day started the day with $800 on my FT account and after some afternoon grinding 2/4 and 3/6 PLO HU it developed into a $30 PLO rebuy win for just shy of $3k and a series of short stack attacks on 10/20 - 100/200. A healthy $15k profit for the day which has prompted a cashout and a trip to Blackpool for the long weekend. I will have internet access in my hotel room so keep the questions coming.

You are offcially my hero.  ;tightend;


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: gasman on May 24, 2008, 02:04:20 AM
OK i still owe a Vegas story and plans for this year anything else i've missed and not realised let me know.

Yesterday was another good day started the day with $800 on my FT account and after some afternoon grinding 2/4 and 3/6 PLO HU it developed into a $30 PLO rebuy win for just shy of $3k and a series of short stack attacks on 10/20 - 100/200. A healthy $15k profit for the day which has prompted a cashout and a trip to Blackpool for the long weekend. I will have internet access in my hotel room so keep the questions coming.

so fkn siksisksiksisksik! legend.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: boldie on May 24, 2008, 10:59:32 AM
So is a shortstack attack the best way to spin up? And what would you call shortstack attack? Sitting down with 20BBs or more? And do you just about move in over anyone who raises preflop when you do this?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Dry em on May 25, 2008, 04:08:08 AM
Just took down that PLO on full tilt in your honour, so what was it 10/20-> 100/200 and then Blackpool?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: 77dave on May 25, 2008, 04:14:59 AM
Just took down that PLO on full tilt in your honour, so what was it 10/20-> 100/200 and then Blackpool?

good work Karl 

did you know you knock penly out on your way to winning it?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Dry em on May 25, 2008, 04:19:10 AM
nah I'm sure he would have given me his usual torrent of "golden" abuse if that were so.... ;D


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: 77dave on May 26, 2008, 04:08:09 AM
If you could steal poker skills from other players.

What would you take and who from


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Pab on May 26, 2008, 04:34:17 AM
OK i still owe a Vegas story and plans for this year anything else i've missed and not realised let me know.

Yesterday was another good day started the day with $800 on my FT account and after some afternoon grinding 2/4 and 3/6 PLO HU it developed into a $30 PLO rebuy win for just shy of $3k and a series of short stack attacks on 10/20 - 100/200. A healthy $15k profit for the day which has prompted a cashout and a trip to Blackpool for the long weekend. I will have internet access in my hotel room so keep the questions coming.

how much for PLO lessons?



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 07:27:34 AM
would you accept a sponsorship deal from Absolute Poker?

Only if i got the superuser password.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 07:33:49 AM
So is a shortstack attack the best way to spin up? And what would you call shortstack attack? Sitting down with 20BBs or more? And do you just about move in over anyone who raises preflop when you do this?

It spreads your risk a little if you have 2 or 3 pullups rather than just 1 shot in a big game. yes 20BBs is a usual figure although sometimes as much as 40. In NLH i am usually looking to get it in preflop hopefully from the front or in a flip situation, i'm not massively keen on playing HU NLH deep unless it's a real fish but i may go for 2 double ups before leaving. In PLO great if you can get it in pre with AAxx or maybe KKxx but you can call 3BB raises with slightly speculative hands. If i spin a shortstack up i'm more likely to keep playing it up deeper in PLO unless the game is really playing sick.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 07:39:08 AM
Just took down that PLO on full tilt in your honour, so what was it 10/20-> 100/200 and then Blackpool?

nah I'm sure he would have given me his usual torrent of "golden" abuse if that were so.... ;D

Nice one mate it's a great value tourney think i've now taken it down 3 times under various guises. yes i gave you a helping hand along the way when it was obvious you and another guy both had aces pre. I had just taken a 4% beat with 5 left in the $200 PLO and this was my last running tourney so i gave you boys a spin with 10986 preflop. Obviously you ran like the wind and made the broadway! :-)


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 07:54:10 AM
OK i still owe a Vegas story and plans for this year anything else i've missed and not realised let me know.

Yesterday was another good day started the day with $800 on my FT account and after some afternoon grinding 2/4 and 3/6 PLO HU it developed into a $30 PLO rebuy win for just shy of $3k and a series of short stack attacks on 10/20 - 100/200. A healthy $15k profit for the day which has prompted a cashout and a trip to Blackpool for the long weekend. I will have internet access in my hotel room so keep the questions coming.

how much for PLO lessons?

There's a few better qualified than me......... i usually get pwned in 6max NL at 25/50 and above so maybe we can swap tips.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 08:17:21 AM
If you could steal poker skills from other players.

What would you take and who from

Great question i'd certainly like Linton's stack building ability in NLH tourneys.

I'd like Daniel Alaei's ability to know exactly where he is in a pot, he's comfortably in my top 10 all round players in the world live.

Not sure i'd swap my gamble for anyone elses.

I'd certainly like a little or a lot more discipline particularly in cash games online. Ivey seems pretty disciplined on this front even if he isn't on many other fronts.

To top it off Matusow's borrowing ability and Thewy and Moomin's runlikethewindabilty!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 08:26:17 AM
Blackpool turned out to be a washout with the 250 only getting 17 and the 500 cancelled. I managed 4th in the 250 with 3 getting paid and having had 50k of the 130k in play with 4 left.
This led to an unitended return to the internet and despite a $2500 draw in the FT $200 PLO i managed to lose $9k over the weekend mostly playing 10/20 to 50/100 PLO.
I returned from Blackpool late Sunday night and having missed all the Sunday majors i loaded up $3k to play some cash. A very sick $3/$6 deepstacked PLO HU game left me with a $12k stack (easily biggest i have accumulated on that size game) and a $10k profit and a 6th in the Sunday night HORSE for another small profit left me feeling my form had returned.  I always play up my form so loaded up $4k on the $50/$100 Capped PLO game i ran this up to $21k before i ran top 2 into an obvious bottom set and came off for a $13k profit. A healthy $25k profit for 5 hours work. Vegas looms large......


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 08:46:11 AM
Are you going to Vegas for the WSOP this year? If so playing what?


Please talk us through your spell living and playing in Vegas after your good result at the WSOP in 2006. Why did you do it and what happened?

My Vegas plans have been up in the air for a while mainly due to big swings and not knowing what i'm going to have available to take with me. However recent success and a long time shrewd and generous backer mean i will probably be going either this week or early next for the whole series. I plan to start off playing the smaller events around town $300-$1000 buyin and try to hit the ground running. I usually manage to find some juicy 5/10 NLH games at The Wynn or Venetian and hope to find a good PLO game too.
As far as World Series events go i'll likely play very few but im going to make every effort to sat into the $10k PLO and obviously $10k main event. Another must is the $1500 PLO and any other decent sized PLO tourneys around town. I imagine i'll play at least 1 decent sized NLH bracelet event too. Last time i played 3 side events and didn't make it past level 2 so i hope to improve on that.

As for Vegas '06 i was actually in the middle of a very sick spin up online just before and during the Main event it started from $500 borrowed online when i was actually penniless, i won a couple of tourneys online and a seat into the main event in the last sat on Stars. I barely slept during the week i was in the Main Event as i was also flying online and up to decent size cash games. After i exited the Main Event for $47000 i'd basically turned the $500 nip into $120,000 in total. I didn't want to change anything and decided to carry on out there and see what happened. I exchanged my Gold Coast room for a nice one in the Bellagio and carried on playing. The sick thing was i hardly played live at all maybe entering the Bellagio cardroom about 5 times in my month long stay there, i made good use of the pool facilities for a couple of hours a day though. I also enjoyed a month long fling with a lapdancer, free before anyone comments! So life was pretty good from being flat broke in Vegas a couple of weeks earlier. Eventually i had to leave as my 90 days was running out and the Barcelona EPT was also coming up by the time i'd left i had run the bankroll up to $240,000. I found myself enjoying Premium Economy Class on the way home 2 seats away from Mr Ivey himself on his way over for the EPT he came 2nd in. Unfortunately i left my form in Vegas and didn't manage to continue the upward trend once hitting British soil.




Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 26, 2008, 08:57:51 AM

Sounds like you've been a pokerist for a few years now.

How did you get started, and what were your early experiences in terms of where / type of games etc...

Also, how long did it take to become a winning player?

Great thread btw.

Well i mentioned previously i was a bit of an all round degen before i discovered poker and it was surfing the Ladbrokes website that led to me discovering poker. I used to do my wages every month on various forms of gambling and i quickly discovered the biggest game on the site as it was then $50/$100 fixed limit holdem. I now know i was playing with the likes of Ram, Eric123 and Christer Johannson on a regular basis as a complete novice. Obviously i got schooled and did my cobblers although i did enjoy some decent runs too. I managed to discover NLH sit and go's on there and seemed to do quite well and eventually discovered Pokerstars still in it's infancy. It took me a while to get into MTT's stacking off far too easily at first but eventually i started to get some results. I guess it must of taken me 2 years to turn it round and recoup all the money i did during my poker education. 2 big results in Blackpool gave me a decent bankroll and 4 months later my contract with BP finished and i found myself with little motivation to look for more work. That was 3 1/4 years ago.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 10:51:31 AM
Last day for questions tomorrow, many thanks to Dave for doing this. Run good in Vegas!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: 77dave on May 26, 2008, 10:55:51 AM
How much money is enough?

if you could live anywhere in the world where would it be and why

whats your worst/biggest bad beat



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: action man on May 26, 2008, 03:48:23 PM
can u keep a diary on here for this years wsop please?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Pelham Boy on May 26, 2008, 04:42:45 PM
can u keep a diary on here for this years wsop please?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2008, 04:44:10 PM
nods, would be great Dave!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 27, 2008, 05:04:57 AM
How much money is enough?

if you could live anywhere in the world where would it be and why

whats your worst/biggest bad beat

I've answered the money and the biggest bad beat questions earlier in the thread.

I'd love to try living in Vegas as my live cash game results are far more consistent and less swingy than online, and you have such a choice of regular action i think it would be very healthy for my bankroll. I might tire of other aspects of America though namely the people and attitudes.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 27, 2008, 05:07:23 AM
can u keep a diary on here for this years wsop please?
nods, would be great Dave!

I have thought about doing a blog before and actually set one up but decided against it as i thought i wouldn't be disciplined enough to keep it up. However i will try and give it a shot for a 6 week period, i can't promise epics of Tikay or Rob Yong proportions but i'll try and give an update every few days of what i've been up to.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 27, 2008, 05:22:29 AM
I'm not like a lot of poker players who only report their wins and today started off with a real sickener dropping $20k to Roland on $100/$200 PLO HU a sick $16k pot where i had a PP and flush draw on the flop against his continuation with no pair no draw that backed into a flush was followed by me calling him down in a strangely played similar sized pot with bare aces that were no good. The real problem with this was lack of discipline though and i should of swallowed after 2 pullps instead of reaching for numbers 3 and 4.
This left me $2k on the account after cashing $10k off yesterday and after a decent break and more sleep i came back refreshed. Currently sitting with $48k in the account largely thanks to running $2k on $25/$50 cap up to $10k and $4k on $50/$100 cap up to $31k. I've run pretty good whilst being in the well hope it doesn't stop tomorrow.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Tonji on May 27, 2008, 09:04:53 AM
Exceptional thread Dave, a really good read. I hope you find the time to blog whilst in Vegas, good luck out there. 


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Pab on May 27, 2008, 09:25:29 AM
Best well so far IMO, fascinating to read.

Also running good while in the well isnt a new theme, moomin ran well winning a few comps, but whats new there, lol only joking if he reads this. Also when I was in the well i came 3rd in stars 1k and won tilt 30r on same day.

In short, being in the well = $$$$$$$$$$$$


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Karabiner on May 27, 2008, 09:35:16 AM
Really excellent well Dave, thanks for the very insightful answers and I hope your good form continues.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: boldie on May 27, 2008, 09:40:22 AM
Best well so far IMO, fascinating to read.



All the wells have given me plenty to think about but this one is fascinating, to say the least, I've never understood how someone can spin up from such a short amount (relatively) to such a huge one and I now have to reconsider my entire attitude to grinding a roll up and moving up levels slowly. Thanks very much for this one.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: cia260895 on May 27, 2008, 09:48:34 AM
If you could pick any 10 players to sit down at a winner take all cash game who would you pick? and how much would you be comfortable buying in with? and at which location would you most prefer to play it at?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: AndrewT on May 27, 2008, 09:53:30 AM
How does your notion of the value of your 'poker money' compare to the value of the same amount of money in the real world?

Does a tenner falling out of your pocket annoy you less than it did before you played big money poker as a tenner is so insignificant to the amounts you usually spin up to?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 27, 2008, 09:58:31 AM
Just finished for the night and ready to sleep a healthy $65k balance sits on the account, will be withdrawing a nice chunk for vegas and see what i can do with the rest.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: RED-DOG on May 27, 2008, 10:21:57 AM
How does your notion of the value of your 'poker money' compare to the value of the same amount of money in the real world?

Does a tenner falling out of your pocket annoy you less than it did before you played big money poker as a tenner is so insignificant to the amounts you usually spin up to?

What a great question, and one I've pondered a lot. I would love to hear Dave's take on it.

For me, poker money (as long as I don't play outside my bankroll) is just a tool, it has no real value, but as soon as I stop playing, I become my normal frugal self, and my tenner regains it's importance.

Great well BTW



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Bad Beat on May 27, 2008, 10:32:01 AM


 I love you Dave, now FFS STOP. I'll see you in the Vic later. You've got enough, now book a flight and get yourself over there.

 Just saw Chufty last night. He told me you sat down to play him heads-up the other night and that, although he wasn't making himself a favourite, he urged you not to as he didn't want to take your case money.

 What's the most money you've spent on something outside of gambling?

 Who is more addicted me or you?

 Why don't you give the monkey game a spin after the WSOP?



Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: AndrewT on May 27, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
I love you Dave, now FFS STOP. I'll see you in the Vic later. You've got enough, now book a flight and get yourself over there.

Just saw Chufty last night. He told me you sat down to play him heads-up the other night and that, although he wasn't making himself a favourite, he urged you not to as he didn't want to take your case money.

What's the most money you've spent on something outside of gambling?

Who is more addicted me or you?

These questions were asked by Neil.

Why don't you give the monkey game a spin after the WSOP?

This question was asked by Neil's wallet.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Snatiramas on May 27, 2008, 11:08:22 AM
Superb thread.......


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 27, 2008, 11:33:59 AM


 I love you Dave, now FFS STOP. I'll see you in the Vic later. You've got enough, now book a flight and get yourself over there.

 Just saw Chufty last night. He told me you sat down to play him heads-up the other night and that, although he wasn't making himself a favourite, he urged you not to as he didn't want to take your case money.

 What's the most money you've spent on something outside of gambling?

 Who is more addicted me or you?

 Why don't you give the monkey game a spin after the WSOP?



Actually that's not strictly true me and Chufty don't play heads up and i had no desire to play him i was actually pleading with him to flip me for 8k, due to a severe case of monkey tilt after a string of bad beats. The boy is just too disciplined and would have none of it.

Most expensive purchase outside of poker in last couple of years although it is poker related was $2500 on an all singing and dancing laptop which has paid for itself many times over and is still with me today although on its last legs. I must stop renting cars when i get back from Vegas and actually buy one!

I am hopelessy addicted to internet poker and you are the same with live poker, i'd like to think you wouldn't find me giving the cash a spin a day after a $million tourney win but i couldn't promise it. I think you short headed me.

I love live NLH cash in Vegas and i can't fathom why i'm not so keen on it over here, it's something i will consider though. Maybe some of you boys could be tempted by a monkey ROE now that would be a game.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 27, 2008, 12:03:07 PM
How does your notion of the value of your 'poker money' compare to the value of the same amount of money in the real world?

Does a tenner falling out of your pocket annoy you less than it did before you played big money poker as a tenner is so insignificant to the amounts you usually spin up to?

As an ex accountant i have a good concept of the value of other people's money, i've always been a bit of a gambler though and had little value for my own money. Tom is right poker money is just a tool and i don't really ever compare it to what it could buy me in the real world. Money is only really an issue when you don't have any. I am a lot more willing to splash out than i used to be and do like the odd extravagance, however i am nobody's fool and if i think i can save a few quid somewhere along the line i'll make an effort rather than just accepting paying over the odds.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: tikay on May 27, 2008, 01:42:59 PM

Dave, from the Members, the Team at blonde, & myself, thank you for a quite stunning "In the Well".

I'm agog at your ability to spin up (& down) such mind-blowing numbers. You could bottle that skill & sell it for plenty.

I'm delighted you had such a good run of Form whilst doing "In the Well". Maybe it's an omen - write on blonde Forum, & you'll get great results. Which brings me to your upcoming Vegas Trip.......;)

Look, I'll not beat about the bush. Do us a Vegas Blog or Diary. Don't worry about updating it every day, just when you fancy it. If you do, the blondes will, I know, show their appreciation, & we'll give you a medal or something. And you can be our Guest of Honour at bB7 - play a few of us Heads-Up there, free entry (worth at LEAST £30!), da de da.

Seriously - please give it some thought, & if there is something we can do for you in return, just ask. I can get you Flushy's butt if that helps?

Go on, you know you want to.....


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: action man on May 27, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
Best well so far IMO, fascinating to read.

Also running good while in the well isnt a new theme, moomin ran well winning a few comps, but whats new there, lol only joking if he reads this. Also when I was in the well i came 3rd in stars 1k and won tilt 30r on same day.

In short, being in the well = $$$$$$$$$$$$

thinly veiled mate. GL in vegas pal!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 27, 2008, 06:43:45 PM
If you could pick any 10 players to sit down at a winner take all cash game who would you pick? and how much would you be comfortable buying in with? and at which location would you most prefer to play it at?

Cracking question want to think about this for a while to do it some justice. Do i go for value or great players.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Dewi_cool on May 27, 2008, 06:58:49 PM
Dave, good well,well done


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: AlexMartin on May 28, 2008, 12:24:06 AM
great well, impressed.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: 77dave on May 28, 2008, 12:32:47 AM
Whats it llike playing Alex Martin HU at plo?


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: KingPoker on May 28, 2008, 12:35:01 AM
well good well!

All the best in Vegas!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: celtic on May 28, 2008, 12:44:26 AM
what a sick 'in the well' U couldnt make it up!!!

Brilliant read and great insight in to the world i want to be in but haven't got the bollocks for it.

good luck in vegas.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: booder on May 28, 2008, 12:12:52 PM
Well well done, thanks Dave


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Robert HM on May 28, 2008, 01:39:22 PM
thanks


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 28, 2008, 03:44:50 PM
Thanks for all the questions and encouragement and it was a pleasure being in the well. Tony i'll kick a new forum off for my Vegas diary sometime next week just before i fly out.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on May 28, 2008, 03:47:05 PM
Whats it llike playing Alex Martin HU at plo?

It was like being on the slow train to the coast Calling All Stations! He beat me up without ever making any positive action!


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: boldie on May 28, 2008, 03:48:16 PM
Whats it llike playing Alex Martin HU at plo?

It was like being on the slow train to the coast Calling All Stations! He beat me up without ever making any positive action!

rotflmfao


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: riverdave on July 10, 2008, 05:43:39 AM
Apologies for the lack of Vegas updates mainly due to a Virus which took my lappie out of action for the last 3 weeks of the trip and in part due to just running pretty awful after my 10th place in Event 24. In fact that was the last WSOP event i played other than many fruitless Mega Super Sats. I did discover there was more to Vegas than Poker (and damned Blackjack) but more of that later. I'll try and do some kind of trip report after i've gathered my thoughts for a few days.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: The Camel on April 14, 2009, 06:10:54 PM
hey grimmerdave, busto?




Bit harsh Justin.

Give the guy a chance to explain himself.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 14, 2009, 06:15:39 PM
he just got back from Ireland today.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: ACE2M on April 14, 2009, 08:10:51 PM
surely this one is not a grim  ;popcorn;

i think byron is entitled, only takes a minute to type a post.


Title: Re: "In the Well" with Riverdave
Post by: The Camel on April 15, 2009, 03:11:04 AM
hey grimmerdave, busto?




Bit harsh Justin.

Give the guy a chance to explain himself.

been waiting 2 weeks how long should I give it?



I wouldn't argue that Dave is out of order for keeping you waiting for two weeks.

However, I am sure he isn't going to grim you. Something has obv happened, give him the chance to explain the delay, he certainly isn't going anywhere.