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Title: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 21, 2008, 12:26:09 AM
Entry 1:

Rob Styles. Great referee, a solid reputation built on getting key decision right - NOT. How many bad penatly decision can this bloke make and keep his job? Gerrard, Malouda and now Robinho (I'm sure there are more) must have this bloke well up on their Christmas card list. He had exactly the same line of sight as me, only about 100 yards closer and he still managed to get it wrong tonight. Its absolutely inexcusable - I could see the ball's direction deviate enough to not be able to give a penalty. I think its worse when they come out and say they were 100% sure at the time, that just means you make bad decisions. I have heard that Poll was a pundit tonight, watched a replay and backed the decision. That is just crazy. Thank god he has gone.

In a very strange way he may have done us a massive favour. We're slowly but surely turning performances round and there was a cracking atmosphere tonight. I'm only hoping that JFKs 2 points from 6, that so very easily could have been 6 from 6, doesn't cost us too much further down the line. Our team must have covered some km's each to live with 11 reasonably comfortably for 78 minutes.

I think its also worth highlighting that I dont think Mark Hughes will be, or deserves to be on tonights decisions, at Man City next year. How the hell did it take him until the 65th minute to take one of his two defensive midfielders off?! Absolute school boy mistake. With our defence they could have been out of sight by half time.

Also worth a mention is Shay Given. Absolute legend and a proper footballer that has unquestionable loyalty and honour. He can quite easily for me have a claim as the best keeper in the league. He certainly wouldnt weaken any team in the PL including Chelsea, and he definatly strengthen every other one. If he had wanted to go I think he would have been at Arsenal this season.



Summary Ratings

This game's satisfaction    7.5
Outlook Optimisim rating   7
Overall Happiness             5


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: amcgrath1uk on October 21, 2008, 12:36:35 AM
Entry 1:

Rob Styles. Great referee, a solid reputation built on getting key decision right - NOT. How many bad penatly decision can this bloke make and keep his job? Gerrard, Malouda and now Robinho (I'm sure there are more) must have this bloke well up on their Christmas card list. He had exactly the same line of sight as me, only about 100 yards closer and he still managed to get it wrong tonight. Its absolutely inexcusable - I could see the ball's direction deviate enough to not be able to give a penalty. I think its worse when they come out and say they were 100% sure at the time, that just means you make bad decisions. I have heard that Poll was a pundit tonight, watched a replay and backed the decision. That is just crazy. Thank god he has gone.

In a very strange way he may have done us a massive favour. We're slowly but surely turning performances round and there was a cracking atmosphere tonight. I'm only hoping that JFKs 2 points from 6, that so very easily could have been 6 from 6, doesn't cost us too much further down the line. Our team must have covered some km's each to live with 11 reasonably comfortably for 78 minutes.

I think its also worth highlighting that I dont think Mark Hughes will be, or deserves to be on tonights decisions, at Man City next year. How the hell did it take him until the 65th minute to take one of his two defensive midfielders off?! Absolute school boy mistake. With our defence they could have been out of sight by half time.

Also worth a mention is Shay Given. Absolute legend and a proper footballer that has unquestionable loyalty and honour. He can quite easily for me have a claim as the best keeper in the league. He certainly wouldnt weaken any team in the PL including Chelsea, and he definatly strengthen every other one. If he had wanted to go I think he would have been at Arsenal this season.



Summary Ratings

This game's satisfaction    7.5
Outlook Optimisim rating   7
Overall Happiness             5

lol

city fan here ;)

Gotta say that I shouted penalty and sending off straight away. If I was the ref, in the position he was in, I couldn't see any other decision he could give. But no matter. City were chuffing awful tonight, and Newcastle played pretty damn well. TBH thought you had the 3 points wrapped up.

That save from Given from Ireland was abs top drawer.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Hairydude on October 21, 2008, 01:00:39 AM
Surprise surprise That TIT graeme poll agreed that it should have been a penalty having seen the replays!!! no chance- the ball clearly moves away and although the newcastle defenders leg does touch robinho it doesnt exactly go through his leg to get the ball-it brushes against it


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on October 21, 2008, 01:04:58 AM
Craig Burley's response to poll made the night for me. City looked very average.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on October 21, 2008, 01:41:35 AM
Craig Burley's response to poll made the night for me. City looked very average.

Yes as he rightly said he's been paid for his opinions and he gave it alright , i like him as a comm i must admit


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on October 21, 2008, 01:55:35 AM
Lol Rooky fair play to you for starting a diary about Newcastle, as i expect you (and mondatoo) are going to take a bit of stick in this thread.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DaveShoelace on October 21, 2008, 09:40:45 AM
Kev surely has to do a Spurs diary?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on October 21, 2008, 10:01:14 AM
No blame at all towards the ref from me, from his view its a pen and a red card all day long, Kinnear even said so...  The fact that he's offered to review his decision is good reffing on the whole imo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on October 21, 2008, 10:53:58 AM
No blame at all towards the ref from me, from his view its a pen and a red card all day long, Kinnear even said so...  The fact that he's offered to review his decision is good reffing on the whole imo

This.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on October 21, 2008, 12:32:03 PM
moan, moan, hard done by, massive club, bigger than spurs

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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 22, 2008, 07:34:06 PM
On a final note on penalties... Its not good enough for a ref to give a decision based on what they can see. They have to be aware of and consider what they can't see - and if they can't see enough to be certain they can't give it. Simple as. This particular ref has made so many errors, some more simple than others, that he has shown he is not good enough. I see he has been dropped to a 4th official role at the weekend, and it'll be interesting if the decision is overturned/rescinded.

Gatso, I have no intention of moaning - but to be honest I can see a decent amount of negativity on the football front for a while yet! That should entertain a little though. Newcastle are the biggest club in Newcastle supporters lives, that much is true. But Newcastle United fans also know exactly where there club is in relation to others (if its at all relevant). You just dont get the vast majority of Newcastle fans starting such debates, but obviously they will defend!

In other news... I have 5 weeks until my final accountancy exams. I have lost all motivation and am struggling to put any work in at all, which isnt good. I have also received two rejections from the half dozen or so applications I made to get a London marathon charity spot. I'm not holding a massive amount of hope for any other the others to come good judging by the application to success ratio I have been told about so far!! Gutted really because this would have been a great thing to aim for over the next 6 months. (and tick another thing off my list of things to do before I'm 30 list) I have a pretty serious training challenge lined up which I think I'll go ahead with even if  dont get a place. Perhaps it may work out well not having the restrictions of a charity.... more to follow on that.


Prediction:

Sunderland 1  Newcastle 2
(I'd take another point if offered now tbh)



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on October 22, 2008, 07:57:35 PM
I know its a sporting diary but what accountancy exams are you doing?
I started it at uni but dropped out to work while studying so doing my aat and then planning to do CIMA.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on October 22, 2008, 08:07:05 PM
Blatant penalty and sending off. Had to laugh at the pundits that pointed out that he touched the ball first, which rule do they think they are referring to, the ball touching rule?  :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 22, 2008, 08:40:03 PM
I know its a sporting diary but what accountancy exams are you doing?
I started it at uni but dropped out to work while studying so doing my aat and then planning to do CIMA.

It can be all things so no worries.

I'm doing ACCA. 12 down, 2 to go. Studying for them on what my boss finds amusing to call 'weekend release'. An absolute ball ache, but I am hoping in the long run it will pay off - as long as I avoid ever being in a role classed as being an accountant I'll be happy ish. Sadly pretty much all my mates are either 'accountants' or teachers. There are a few doing CIMA and a few ACCA. I think there is a pretty clear split as to which one to do depending on what area you want to go into.  Good luck.

I did economics at uni, failed to become an airline pilot (though if anyone has 70k up for an interest free loan, or I win the lottery (yes), I'd go back to that like a shot!), then fell into auditing. Hasn't worked out too badly.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 22, 2008, 08:44:16 PM
Blatant penalty and sending off. Had to laugh at the pundits that pointed out that he touched the ball first, which rule do they think they are referring to, the ball touching rule?  :D

The same rule as the one that makes football non contact?! He wins the ball before sending him tumbling. The fact that two days later people from all experiences of football can't agree  makes it clear for me that it should not have been given.  Luckily for us Ameobi actually played so we got to play with 10, as we usually do when he plays!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on October 23, 2008, 05:29:17 PM
You can't make this stuff up.

Newcastle defender Habib Beye has won his appeal against the red card he received in the 2-2 draw with Manchester City on Monday.
 rotflmfao



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 23, 2008, 06:33:57 PM
You can't make this stuff up.

Newcastle defender Habib Beye has won his appeal against the red card he received in the 2-2 draw with Manchester City on Monday.
 rotflmfao



I can't understand your reaction. I can understand being suprised, because the FA never do stuff like this. But I just dont think there is an arguement about this being the right decision. Gives me a little more confidence going into the weekend.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on October 23, 2008, 07:53:21 PM
Just wish they could clarify the rules on this and have some consistency. Will see what happens over the season.
Still it could be worse, we could support Spurs.  ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 24, 2008, 12:15:03 AM
See the thing with football is imo everyone likes to take the piss out of other teams stuggling and all that,Me personally i'd rather see spurs stay in the prem as they are a well supported club and are a decent size club(not as big as the toon though of course)

The start of the season was great everything was looking promising then bang keegans gone sack the board blah de blah everyone knows,well obviously i was a bt down about all of this as my club is a massive deal for me as it is for many genuine football fans up and down the country.However i reached a turning point and it was actually the blackburn game we were 2-0 at half time on course for another defeat and if i'm honest i wanted to leave at half time as i was defeated,then a thought bs get back out there support my team and see how it goes 2nd half owen got an early pen we got beat but i really enjoyed the 2nd half we played a lot better than we had been and i was encouraged at how things went

Then i went down to everton had a great weekend down in leeds and fully expected newcastle to spoil the great weekend that i'd had with a defeat at everton but then you get there start to get involved(i.e have a few bevvies) and you begin to have the belief your going to win and by the time ur in the ground how can you not win.Then 2-0 down within half hour ffs back to reality with a bang.But hold on taylor equalises on half time we play immense 2nd half and i had great fun atmosphere was tremendous and although we couldve,maybe shouldve won we got a good point and i went home a happy man.
 
Then it's the biggie coming up within 2 weeks and i've never had the fortune of getting a ticket for the dark side, done a few of the home games against the mackems but not away(they are like gold).I meet a good mate down at everton who says if i cant get one myself he'll sort me a ticket out plus i have a few points on my season ticket so hope i'll be able to get one myself.Then it gets to wednesday doesn't look like im getting one on my ticket and me mate from everton also doesn't sound to confident of getting me one,so i'm in a right fettle allday on the wednesday "knew i wouldn't fookin get one" is all thats going through my head on weds.Then ring the club on thurs morning points have come down i got enough to get one of the last tickets Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii and i've been constantly on a buzz from then till saturday looking forward to the game,add in a good performance and a good atmosphere in the city game on monday and although it seems so bad it could be a lot worse.

Obviously i want the club to get sold and get sorted out and so we can get away from the relegation zone hopefully,but at the end of the day worse of the worse if we go down this season i'll still be there supponting my team what ever division we are in,BECAUSE IT'S MY LIFE IT'S WHAT I DO AND A LOVE IT !!!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on October 24, 2008, 09:21:49 AM
Must admit that from my own experience City going down turend out to be a good thing. For a start by playing in a lower league you have the chance of being at the top of a table rather than the middle or bottom for a change. There is also a greater chance of going to Wembley through the play offs than there is if you are a Prem team.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 24, 2008, 05:58:51 PM
Referee Rob Styles is on the brink of quitting the sport after a red card he gave to Newcastle's Habib Beye was overturned by the FA. Styles also apologised to Bolton earlier last month after incorrectly awarding a penalty to Manchester United in their 2-0 win. (Daily Mail)


Lets hope he doesnt change his mind !!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 25, 2008, 02:46:22 PM
1439: Ugly. Fans are spilling onto the pitch, and fighting has broken out. We'll hear more about that I'm sure. Disappointing end to an engaging derby. Sunderland defeat Newcastle for the first time since 2000, when chairman Niall Quinn got the winner.

1438: FULL-TIME Sunderland 2-1 Newcastle



OOPS !!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 25, 2008, 08:07:45 PM
I hate derby day. Well I hate this one. Away derby days are worse, I'm sat in my flat screeming at the tv knowing fine well its not having even the slightest effect that me doing it on a home day has.  I was more nervous than excited this morning, and that in itself shows where we are at the moment. I was supposed to be in college all day thinking about IAS' and ISA's but I left early to get back for kick off.

In terms of the performance we are just carrying too many sub standard players for the others to cover for. Steven Taylor is prime suspect number one. Has been a number of times for us already this season and for the U21 against Wales the other week you'd struggle to find a goal that wasnt his fault. He makes bad (childish) decisions, positionally isnt brilliant, and doesnt have a great deal of pace. He does have heart and passion, but he is still letting us down. The high ball exposed the defenders on both sides today with the wind, but I dont think we'll ever get a solid defence whilst he is in it. A proper left back would be good too - but we knew that since last season.

Nicky Butt. The bloke has come back from his FA cup semi final shocker and been one of our better, if not best performer over the last season. He is however becoming too much of a liability. I cant knock him for their 1st goal, struggling with an injury like that where he would have closed him out usually. He is too slow and his engine is gone. This causes him frustration because he has been such a top class player in his time. I think he has given away two penalties already this season and the free kick for the winner today, whilst perhaps calculated, gave the wrong result. Have to say it was an unbelievable hit. I left the room for it. I knew he was going to score after seeing his efforts last week against Fulham.

Shola Ameobi. Another goal and one or two pieces of good play in the first half but he is simply not good enough. His touches let him down serious, usually when we need them most, like in the second half and chasing the game. I think he usually takes more of a share of flack than he is due, because of the way he ambles around, but again we just cant carry him. I said somewhere earlier that I didnt think we'd win another game until Viduka came back - I didnt realise he would be out for the season when I said that. I hope I am wrong! Xisco looked awful to me, a couple of people said on here they had seen him and though he would be good. Havent seen any evidence of that and losing hope. The fact that Shola is getting in ahead of him (and Duff has played up top in other games) makes me think the people seeing him in training every day arent seeing it either. This might all still be the fall out of losing Alan Shearer and not putting something in place to replace him the year before he finsihed (probably because we spent the money on Owen I guess).

All in all another glum day leaving us with a massive game that I cant get to on Tuesday, another night making the neighbours thinking they live next door to a murdering tourets sufferer. Before that there is a big game for us tomorrow. tottenham Bolton. Whilst I'd obviosuly like to see spurs continue to suffer the ideal result is probably a draw edging on to a Spurs win. Shocking that so early in the season we are so interested in other results but I think we need to be.

In terms of the trouble I'm not sure how much its being played up. from the pictures I saw on sky it didnt look too bad, not like a mass riot. Certainly nowhere near some of the stuff we have even seen pretty recently with English clubs in the CL. I'd guess on a bit more segregation spacing next year though.

Anyhow, another down...

Summary Ratings

This game's satisfaction    0
Outlook Optimisim rating   6
Overall Happiness             5


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ShatnerPants on October 26, 2008, 05:23:12 AM
Blatant penalty and sending off. Had to laugh at the pundits that pointed out that he touched the ball first, which rule do they think they are referring to, the ball touching rule?  :D

The same rule as the one that makes football non contact?! He wins the ball before sending him tumbling. The fact that two days later people from all experiences of football can't agree  makes it clear for me that it should not have been given.   Luckily for us Ameobi actually played so we got to play with 10, as we usually do when he plays!

Have to disagree I'm afraid.

The more open to discussion it is, the more correct it makes the descision.

It doesn't matter whether the descision was 'right' in actual terms ( after replays etc ).  As long as the ref can legitimately see it one way or the other ( which is all the discussion has proved ) it means that he called it as he saw it.

Which is all we can ask.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 26, 2008, 11:38:36 AM
Oh well i just managed to save my mate from an on rushing stampede that he somehow hadn't noticed by pulling him back into the row after i seen a load of people running down the steps,they weren't stopping lol whole day was shit as rooky said i was also to nervous whereas in previous games ive always been a little nervous but totally confident we'd win

[  ] We took losing the derby well
[  ] I enjoyed being kept in the ground for over an hour because of the pricks who thought that was a bright idea,banning orders are the new IT thing i believe
[X] I sang there's only one Joey Barton
[  ] I care if people want to give me stick for that
[X] Now he's staying at the club i will support him as a player for the club if he gives us a 100%


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ShatnerPants on October 26, 2008, 12:07:25 PM
Oh well i just managed to save my mate from an on rushing stampede that he somehow hadn't noticed by pulling him back into the row after i seen a load of people running down the steps,they weren't stopping lol whole day was shit as rooky said i was also to nervous whereas in previous games ive always been a little nervous but totally confident we'd win

[  ] We took losing the derby well
[  ] I enjoyed being kept in the ground for over an hour because of the pricks who thought that was a bright idea,banning orders are the new IT thing i believe
[X] I sang there's only one Joey Barton
[  ] I care if people want to give me stick for that
[X] Now he's staying at the club i will support him as a player for the club if he gives us a 100%

As long as he keeps his nose clean, I hope.

He's had enough last chances.  He's talking a good game, let's see if he can get through Xmas without kicking the shite out of someone.

If he stays off the booze, then maybe it'll work.  But one night out clubbing it, and it's all over.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 30, 2008, 07:56:18 PM
Sod's law. Work commitments stopped me from going on Tuesday, and we win. I manage to cause myself serious pain within the first 10 minutes - mid a 'go on Oba' scream I managed to dislocate (self diagnosed) my jaw and spend the other 80 minutes in agony. My heart wasnt in too good a shape with the holding on at the end either.

I really liked the look of our midfield, and our play going forward in parts. Obviously the downside in the central midfield pairing on Tuesday is that neither likes to sit and we can get caught. It'll be interesting to see if he has any other ideas when against better teams and away from home. To be honest I just dont think we have the squad to change that much.

I was pleased to see a decent performance from Barton. Everything else aside he is a good player, worthy of the England fringes (more if Jermaine Jenas is) when in form and back playing games.

Defensively I cant really bear to think about it. Collocini got caught for the goal, horribly, but for me he has looked decent enough for us in the main. I'd love to see him play alongside someone who is as strong as him (Upson maybe) and see how they go. Also yet more evidence that we should just never ever ever buy Spanish players.

Summary Ratings

This game's satisfaction    7
Outlook Optimisim rating   7
Overall Happiness             6


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 03, 2008, 11:47:29 PM
An up! Get in.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 03, 2008, 11:57:04 PM
Villa get pwned today,we played immense was a great performance keep going like that and kinnear can keep the job for me,also find it rather amusing that newcastle are in "crisis" but sunderland are having a good season lol.Jonas guitierez is different gravy and even shola had a decent game


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 08, 2008, 04:51:46 PM
Just to keep this up to date for when I look back on a season ending in European quialification. (for the record this is light humour)

Thought we did really well last Monday. Certainly worth the 200+ mile round trip, and the lack of sleep before work on Tuesday. Jonas has looked such a massive player for us in each of the small number of games he has played for us. I thought he was top class again on Monday. Its so good to see a Newcastle player always willing to take the ball, and have the ability to keep possesion of it when required. If we keep him fit there is no doubt for me that we'll be fine.

I thought Joey Barton had another good game. He is certainly looking far more of a player than he has at any other time in black and white stripes. Good news.


Summary Ratings

This game's satisfaction    9 (considering the situation pre match)
Outlook Optimisim rating   7
Overall Happiness             7


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 08, 2008, 05:15:43 PM
Michael Owen.

I have his name on the back on the shirt that I bought at the start of last season. Owen 10 is the most popular players name that is sold on shirts through the club shop - yet I have never really fully seen him as a Newcastle United player. He certainly gets as good, if not better, a reception as any other player on the team sheet - more so since becoming captain. Obviously he has had massive injury issues. I'd guess only playing half of the games he could have since he came, and now we are 6 weeks away from either losing him for free next summer or him being sold in January to get something for him.

I throughly believe that Michael Owen will do exactly the same with the club as it is as he would have done if all this hadnt kicked off. If he had wanted to stay he would have signed up last summer when an offer was made to him. You can go on all day about how its every players right to maximise their wealth but when your talking such silly money, 105k per week, I really dont see how any extra 500k a year is an issue.  He gets paid 50% more than our next highest earner, who also rarely plays, so is paid virtually 100% more than the rest of the entire squad! Crazy.  It is purely about him holding out to see if another club will take a punt on him.  Once again, can he be blamed for wanting to play at the top top level? Probably not, but he could at least be honest for it.

That brings us to which clubs he could go to that would fit all this.

1) needs a club that will pay him six figures a week. Man City, Man U, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool (the last two marginals)
2) I think the England record is key for him, so he needs to go where he can play every week (when fit!). Man City, Tottenham, Liverpool (the last one v marginally)
3) He needs to go where he can play CL football (UEFA cup is a lower standard than PL so add nothing but fixtures) Liverpool.

Given the above the only possible place he can go is Liverpool, and the two marginal elements in that must make that unlikely at best.

The other issue is the injury thing. A couple of my mates play football to decent levels and apparently one of the issues withe being injured a lot at a club is that players start to get the feeling they need a change of club just for a change of luck. Bizzare, but these are footballers we are talking about.  That for me brings Man city into play - but with the money they are talking about splashing about surely they should be looking at something more reliable than Michael Owen?

I'd love him to stay. Pay him his 110k a week, give him a 4 year deal to let him build a legacy and help attract other names over the next couple of years as we build a good young squad. But, if he does go then so be it. Him and Oba tend not to play together, and Martins always makes sure he looks like he would give everything for the cause. But, lets make sure that whatever happens is on our terms. Newcastle United are bigger than any one player. Even the manager in waiting.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 09, 2008, 07:01:15 PM
FML


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on November 10, 2008, 12:17:03 PM
Major move on Shearer today.

8/1 into 5/2.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on November 10, 2008, 03:50:18 PM
5/2 Long Gone.

7/4 best now.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 10, 2008, 07:38:28 PM
someone read the last line of my post above and lumped on!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on November 11, 2008, 05:33:59 PM
Have you seen this thread on f365,a lad packed his job in and is going to travel the world Dave Gorman stlye and buy a beer for each of the Newcastle players involved in the 5-0 massacre of ManU on that fateful night in Keegan's first reign.Best perfomance in my life time easily.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dK4wFKYtipo
http://forum.football365.com/index.php?t=msg&th=146260&start=0&
He's going for a beer with Pav t'mrow in Prague,i laughed at the suggestion that in the last chapter he should go and interview Schmiecal but i guess he would do it as he always came across as a decent bloke.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 11, 2008, 09:35:43 PM
Quality idea be funny if he does it lol

As for Shearer see what happens,i wouldn't have a bet at less than 5's though if you got 8's brent gl mate


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 15, 2008, 09:29:42 PM
Ever feel like throwing yourself through a big glass window 8 stories in the air? Missed today's game again with the impending exams. Got finished at college at 4pm to find we are 1 nil down. nice. Head to the office to do some bits and pieces and load up the bbc text page thingy... waiting for the result to change. Looks like the sending off was harsh, but all the even up at the end of the season stuff might actually come true eh?

So MO misses another sitter (Fabio looking pretty clever so far) then levels. Nice. Now lets push on. Oba compeltes the script. Can just imagine what the atmosphere would be like at that time. Some of the best games I have been to are the turnaround games - Everton at home on my 20th birthday (that Shearer volley) Leicester 4-3 (that shearer 10 min hattrick) Sheff Wed 4-2 (the lesser known Alex Mathie with a ridiculous falling volley thing) come to mind. Then before I can given control my celebration in the empty office its 2-2. Mr Titus Bramble score through our net again, this time again in a bad way.

Such a chance to put some places between us and the bottom three going into the Chelsea game that have been missed. Thats going to put us bottom three afte rChelsea facing three massive games for us. We're simply running out of winable games to not be involved in the trouble in a few months time. Bring on mid table boredem any day of the week.... At least we have 3 points v spurs to look forward to in just over a month.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 16, 2008, 11:22:27 AM
These things come in three's apparently. No.1 Mr Bramble yesterday, No.2 below. Not the biggest blow in the world financially but a bit of a kick in the bollocks after a few hours getting past all 260 of the others. i suck HU. Looking forward to getting No.3 out the way soon.


Full Tilt Poker Game #9001433232: $2 + $0.25 Tournament (68748150), Table 8 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:07:18 ET - 2008/11/16
Seat 3: jahanic (204,734)
Seat 6: TheAuditor9 (186,766)
jahanic antes 500
TheAuditor9 antes 500
jahanic posts the small blind of 2,000
TheAuditor9 posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheAuditor9 [td 9h]
jahanic raises to 13,000
TheAuditor9 calls 9,000
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9d 9c]
TheAuditor9 checks
jahanic bets 27,000
TheAuditor9 calls 27,000
*** TURN *** [Ac 9d 9c] [7s]
TheAuditor9 checks
jahanic has 15 seconds left to act
jahanic has requested TIME
jahanic bets 164,234, and is all in
TheAuditor9 calls 146,266, and is all in
jahanic shows [As Kc]
TheAuditor9 shows [td 9h]
Uncalled bet of 17,968 returned to jahanic
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9d 9c 7s] [Ad]
jahanic shows a full house, Aces full of Nines
TheAuditor9 shows a full house, Nines full of Aces
jahanic wins the pot (373,532) with a full house, Aces full of Nines
TheAuditor9 stands up
jahanic stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 373,532 | Rake 0
Board: [Ac 9d 9c 7s Ad]
Seat 3: jahanic (small blind) showed [As Kc] and won (373,532) with a full house, Aces full of Nines
Seat 6: TheAuditor9 (big blind) showed [td 9h] and lost with a full house, Nines full of Aces


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 21, 2008, 07:50:07 PM
When is William Gallas signing for Newcastle? ::)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 23, 2008, 03:28:24 AM
When is William Gallas signing for Newcastle? ::)

I'd rip rip their arms off for a couple of mill. I think he'll be off for a couple of easy years in France. 

I'd hate to be 'a Chelsea fan' seriously. It would feel so dirty and false. The whole name Chelsea ouses falseness. Give me honest blood and sweat anyday.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 23, 2008, 03:32:59 AM
SSSHHHIIIIIIIPPPPPPPP IT ,great result today hopefully be a confidence booster point well earned gg wp


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 23, 2008, 03:50:28 AM
SSSHHHIIIIIIIPPPPPPPP IT ,great result today hopefully be a confidence booster point well earned gg wp

Still, from the last 3 games that we should have had ether 4 or 6 points from, we've only had two though.  We're going to be in there a lot closer to May than I ever thought possible.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on November 23, 2008, 03:53:07 AM
lolcastle


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 23, 2008, 03:54:46 AM
Nah mate we will be fine and i don't base this at all on todays result,i'm 99.9% we be safe by April


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on November 23, 2008, 03:59:15 AM
Nah mate we will be fine and i don't base this at all on todays result,i'm 99.9% we be safe by April

Im 99% certain your £50 will be mine!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 23, 2008, 04:19:36 AM
Nah mate we will be fine and i don't base this at all on todays result,i'm 99.9% we be safe by April

Im 99% certain your £50 will be mine!

LOL yeah


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 26, 2008, 09:37:50 PM
Andy Gray.  I hate the fella, perhaps irrationally, but he has the ability to wind me up like pretty much no one else on the planet.  There's often a big stink about making ex pro footballers into professional referee's, because they 'know the game'. What an absolute load of BS. Its like saying a crimanal would make a good policeman (okay so Mr Abagnale apart) it just doesnt work like that. Being agood referee is about having a certain number of skills at your disposal and knowing the laws of the game. Its a hard job. I've done it. But its not as hard as many of the refs we have in this country make it look. I dont think its their fault wither, they are bound by some daft rules and monitored by people stuck in the 1980's. Anyhow, I digress from my Andy Gray slating...

I caught some highlights of whoever Sunderalnd were playing at the weekend.  Andy Gray made the statement that 'its got to be a penalty, I dont believe Cisse would dive there'. Are you F'ing kidding me? We are now going to make decisions based on what we think a player (even an irrational one in this case too)would do in a situation, rather than what we can and cant see? Mental. My main gripe is him making rules up. Ball to hand and his own view on it which is now way too commonly held in football and I can't believe he gets away with it.  Since when does it have to be delibrate handball to be a direct free kick/penalty? Thats the yellow card caution/red card rule. If a player has his hand out, especially if above his head or at right angles, and it hits it him they cant have an arguement.

Cracking result last weekend against Chelsea and one that I would never ever have seen coming. In fairness we were absolutely robbed there last year, disgracefully so, and so this goes a little way towards making up for that. Having said this a good 20 of the 28 shots must have been 30 odd yard row z threateners. You cant beat Shay Given from there. He's the best. A proper pro too. Will go down as an all time Newcastle great imo (well in my lifetime). He has taken to the city and a classic example to prove that Jenas was talking absolute dog shite with his goldfish bowl BS.


Next week sees what could (and probably should) be the last two exams before I'm classed as a qualified accountant. I dont ever want to do anything remotely accounting (well I'll do enough to keep myself current) but it should be a good thing for me to get under my belt, and behind me etc.  It has been a long hard slog, 3 years worth of spending about 20 weekends a year at college and pretty much feeling like death for a month every six, but I just have to keep telling myself I'm nearly there.  Not the greatest time ever to be qualifying in terms of if I'm wanting to move on to a different company, particularly when the field I'd be most interested in is aviation related.  I ahve some insight into football finacing etc too and obviously that would be very interesting, a pretty small sector though.  I'd quite fancy a job with 50% international travel, but again not exactly great timing. I'm quite happy where I am though and I'll see if I can push on once I dont have exams hanging over me.

As a reward to myself I've booked a trip to Dubai for the week after my reults are due. BA had an unbelievable offer on so I have used my various points/miles systems to get Business class return flights, 5 full days and 3 nights accomodation for just under 300 quid. I hope I'm not bokking myself by booking it now - it had to be booked by Friday for the offer - but either way I'll need a sort break so hopefully karma will recognise that I'm not being cocky by booking now!!

Also by way of reward I'm giving myself the aftyernoon off to go to the Newcastle Boro game on Saturday afternoon. I say reward because I hate this fixture 2nd of any... behind playing them at SJP. Its not a derby game. But it is massive for me, having lived on Teesside for half my life and now flatshare with a schoolmate who is a big boro fan! Obviosuly due to my indicision, and Newcastle fans not sitting down at the riverside, I have missed out on getting into the away section. Luckily there is enough space at the Riverside for me to have a corner of the ground to myself, sio I'll be doing that and keeping myself to myself. I'll be easy to spot though. I'll be the one not clapping along like someone on gas to that pigmat song thing that they still play. Thats just plain embarrassing for the north east of england and they should be ashamed of that.

Howay the Toon.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on November 26, 2008, 10:15:54 PM
   Completely agree,boro is not a derby game,in my eyes i always saw Leeds as a bigger game even in the eighties when we were both in the 2nd division.Good luck with you exams sounds like a proper slog for something you don't even want a career in.Have you seen the thread on the live poker board about the Feb forum poker tourny in Newcastle, interested?
    Anyway ball 25 in the FA cup draw on Sunday,home tie please!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rod Paradise on November 27, 2008, 05:29:56 PM
My main gripe is him making rules up. Ball to hand and his own view on it which is now way too commonly held in football and I can't believe he gets away with it.  Since when does it have to be delibrate handball to be a direct free kick/penalty? Thats the yellow card caution/red card rule. If a player has his hand out, especially if above his head or at right angles, and it hits it him they cant have an arguement.


While I agree with you on Andy Gray, I'm afraid you're wrong here & he's right.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg%5fen.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg%5fen.pdf)

Pg 35 on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 27, 2008, 06:21:56 PM
Know what you mean mate,I'm using holidays from work at the moment to study for exams in just over a week it's boring but worth it in the end.Good luck with yours and enjoy the trip sounds like you've put a lot of time in so you should be fine crikey if i can pass them  :)up

PS Enjoy the game and totally agree it ain't no derby to me


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 27, 2008, 07:58:52 PM
   Completely agree,boro is not a derby game,in my eyes i always saw Leeds as a bigger game even in the eighties when we were both in the 2nd division.Good luck with you exams sounds like a proper slog for something you don't even want a career in.Have you seen the thread on the live poker board about the Feb forum poker tourny in Newcastle, interested?
    Anyway ball 25 in the FA cup draw on Sunday,home tie please!!!

I still can't work out how you can stand in South Shields, face the Tyne, the look left, and have a picture of the piers! Got my spacial awareness feelings going crazy!

i used to love the Leeds midweek games (night games have something about them). Dirty Leeds. you could always guarantee a hard tackle to get everyone in the game.  I think we miss a bit of that at the moment (inc Barton!). Just someone who can put in a hard fair challenge to get the crowd going. Obviously I wont write the name of the man who used to do that!

Thanks for the luck. It is a slog, and I propably undersold it in my post. Whilst i have no interest in being what I think of as an accountant the qualification is pretty relevant to all areas of business. Plus having it is a bit like a degree in someways, its an indicator to employers etc.

Any tie that isn't worthy of being on tele (ie no thank you to any non league teams away!) will do!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 27, 2008, 08:01:06 PM
My main gripe is him making rules up. Ball to hand and his own view on it which is now way too commonly held in football and I can't believe he gets away with it.  Since when does it have to be delibrate handball to be a direct free kick/penalty? Thats the yellow card caution/red card rule. If a player has his hand out, especially if above his head or at right angles, and it hits it him they cant have an arguement.


While I agree with you on Andy Gray, I'm afraid you're wrong here & he's right.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg%5fen.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg%5fen.pdf)

Pg 35 on.

FML. I'm probably going to have to kill myself!! That is definitely an alteration, or I'm sending a strongly worded letter the the East Riding County FA! Its not the rule that is used in football then. 50% of the handball penalties are deliberate.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 27, 2008, 08:02:32 PM
Know what you mean mate,I'm using holidays from work at the moment to study for exams in just over a week it's boring but worth it in the end.Good luck with yours and enjoy the trip sounds like you've put a lot of time in so you should be fine crikey if i can pass them  :)up

PS Enjoy the game and totally agree it ain't no derby to me

Good luck to you too mate. What are yours in?

I can honestly say I dont think I'll enjoy the game, unless we're 3-0 at half time!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 27, 2008, 08:03:56 PM
 Have you seen the thread on the live poker board about the Feb forum poker tourny in Newcastle, interested?


Will have a look now. I live down in Leeds now so not as easy to get up etc - plus I have a week in Glasgow and a week in Dubai in Feb to fit in!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 27, 2008, 10:05:13 PM
Know what you mean mate,I'm using holidays from work at the moment to study for exams in just over a week it's boring but worth it in the end.Good luck with yours and enjoy the trip sounds like you've put a lot of time in so you should be fine crikey if i can pass them  :)up

PS Enjoy the game and totally agree it ain't no derby to me

Good luck to you too mate. What are yours in?

I can honestly say I dont think I'll enjoy the game, unless we're 3-0 at half time!

ICAEW,I hated all of the sunderland game was to nervous as i thought we were going to lose obv boro is not like that just another 3 points to me


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on November 28, 2008, 02:13:02 PM
   I dread Newcastle-Sunderland fixtures,just to much pressure although our recent record against them is good.Shields is split between Mags and Mackems,probably 60/40 there way and derby days especially in the 80's and early 90's would end in violence with several pubs being virtual no-go areas.I couldn't get a tickect for the away end so had to go in the clock stand for this goal,trying to hold back from going mental was virtually impossible.
YouTube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PkDteFsGxgY
   Definately in my top 3 moments of following Newcastle,the others being,Leicester away when we needed to get something to avoid being relegated to the third divison and playing football 3000 aside in a square just off the ramblas in Barcalona.The lows of following the Mags are many but moments like these make it all worth it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on November 28, 2008, 02:36:42 PM
Tyne on your left,groyne thing is opposite the block of flats and priory on the other side of the river,beach is called sandhaven and is quite nice now unlike when i was a kid as you had all the mess from Westoe pit,shipyards and consett steelworks.How i never died of something toxic i'll never know as we were always down there murdering and burning anything we could find.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 28, 2008, 05:50:10 PM
Tyne on your left,groyne thing is opposite the block of flats and priory on the other side of the river,beach is called sandhaven and is quite nice now unlike when i was a kid as you had all the mess from Westoe pit,shipyards and consett steelworks.How i never died of something toxic i'll never know as we were always down there murdering and burning anything we could find.

Ah ty ty! Makes sense now.
I use to go to Collingwood monument with my Gran when I was younger, havent been for best part of 15 years. I love our area for places like this as much as the city's highlights.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on November 29, 2008, 04:21:46 PM
could be worse, you could be a Sunderland fan.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 29, 2008, 09:15:11 PM
FML is going to be my new catchphase.

I was kind of banking on having a bit of space to myself this afternoon, enough to not give any tells away through my breathing pattern at least. Last week against Bolton there were thousands of spare seats at the Riverside. And they got spanked.  This week there were a couple of hundred spare, at the otherside of the ground.

I was sat with a man and wife to my left. They were fairly quite, they did take part in the clapping along thing but throughout the game not too much either way.  In front was a big bloke, likely to be from Pallister or Park End (Obv there aren't that many people who know what that means, but they are not the most affluent areas - not that I'm knocking Teesside. Great place for the most part). He, like me, chose not to join in with the clapping to commercial dance music. I was quite glad of his presence, because in truth there were only really us two not doing it in the whole ground. The Newcastle fans loved it too! I'm sure some just go for the annual chance to act that an idiot and boogo along to take the piss.  To my right I had two blokes who were late in, they missed the trained monkey show, but sadly were massively loud supporters, constantly spouting Geordie f's this that etc etc. I did have to chuckle to myself thinking if only you knew.

I managed to get away with my covert operation by finding some common ground with my fellow south east stand dwellers.  Firstly David Wheater. What an absolute star that lad could be. I love his attitude. So spot on and grounded. Celebrates victories with fish and chip suppers in Redcar with his girlfriend, called Stacey! The boro fans quite rightly sing 'he's one of our own, he's one of our own, that David Wheater, he's one of our own' loudly and proudly. He is similar to Steven Taylor, but less flash, and with about twice as much ability. He made a couple of top quality tackles which I didn't mind applauding, if not leading the applause.

The other area of common ground was Alfonso Alves, though to be honest I think I was more supportive of him than them.  Obviously I dont have to watch him every week but he takes a lot of stick. Rightly in some ways. So lightweight he got blown off the ball in good positions a number of times, he also had a couple of good chances and missed.  But he does show signs of quality, and I'm convinced he'll score goals if he can get some confidence.

So, I kept nice and quite, a very small amount of interaction with those round me on the two topics above. I kept my gloved hands to my face most the game to cover my inhales and exhales, which were the opposite of what they should have been.

Probably a fair result, even though we had the best chances and the better possession. I am relieved in a way to get this game through with my pride in tact for conversations with the flatmate, but its another winable game that has come and gone and the longer we are down there the more our possible lack of character is going to come through and we'll be in the thick of the battle.

Stoke next week, which I'll be attending with a massive hangover and the prospect of another night out after it - I think I might have to drink through, which should make it an interactive game.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 29, 2008, 09:27:06 PM
Hmm i watched it on lappy and although it was an equal 1st half they pretty much pounded us in the 2nd it wasn't til last 15 mins that we started to create anything,draw was a fair result though imo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on November 29, 2008, 09:38:13 PM
Hmm i watched it on lappy and although it was an equal 1st half they pretty much pounded us in the 2nd it wasn't til last 15 mins that we started to create anything,draw was a fair result though imo

Apart from a Alves headed chance first half and his run and shot second half I was never really worried. Martins hitting the bar, Butts freekick, think there was a deflected Martins shot that I was just waiting to see make the net buldge, but didnt. Might have to see what it looks like on MOTD.

What do you think he'll do with the front three? You can see he wants Viduka in, and you can see why the way Owen and Martins play together. Last year when we moved to all three we didnt have Jonas to fit in. The easy option is for him to drop Martins, and keep Owen sweet. A very tricky one. Martins headed straight down the tunnel after he got subbed, but I think I would be off for a warm shower rather than have my sweat freeze on me on the subs bench - hopefully that was the reason anyway.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 29, 2008, 09:44:21 PM
Martins has done that a few times so doubt out will come of it.Like you say tricky situation if he wants to keep owen happy then obv guna have to start him.Tbh i wouldn't have thought it will be an issue viduka isn't fit to start at the moment and will probably be injured again soon


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on November 29, 2008, 11:13:52 PM
Mark Viduka!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 04, 2008, 12:26:56 PM
What's the word for taking delight out of others misfortune?!

Well done mr Roy keane (alledged dog fiddler et al). He has finally decided to drop sunderland right in it. He was probably working for the second best board in the PL, in terms of support, perhaps the best when u add the financial power try have over boro. Yet still he can't stick at the job. What a waste of space. Football clubs, even that one, deserve better. This is a problem I think will happen more and more as already extremely rich footballers end up in management.
 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 04, 2008, 12:28:54 PM
Please don't think to mention any KK comparisons!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on December 04, 2008, 12:29:40 PM
o'leary! will take the job!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on December 04, 2008, 12:40:47 PM
It's quite strange different views on it. My immediate thought was that of respect.
Going to mention Keegan but may not be how you expected the comparison.
Keegan at England knew he wasn't the man for the job and the fans, players and country deserved and could have better and resigned. I think Keane no longer thinks he's the best man for the job so has walked.
I wish Mclaren would have had this attitude. It seemed obvious to most he wasn't the right man for the job but waited until after England didn't qualify for the Euro's and even then wouldn't quit.

Hope the accountancy exams went well. Done two AAT exams this week. Didn't really prepare enough so can't expect much but didn't find it as bad as i thought i would so guess there is some hope.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 04, 2008, 01:05:20 PM
What's the word for taking delight out of others misfortune?!

Well done mr Roy keane (alledged dog fiddler et al). He has finally decided to drop sunderland right in it. He was probably working for the second best board in the PL, in terms of support, perhaps the best when u add the financial power try have over boro. Yet still he can't stick at the job. What a waste of space. Football clubs, even that one, deserve better. This is a problem I think will happen more and more as already extremely rich footballers end up in management.
 

FYP



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rod Paradise on December 04, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I think they were promoted a year too early for Keane, he seemed to be building a solid structure but had to accelerate it when they went up.

He certainly has seemed to be losing interest recently though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 05, 2008, 05:11:40 PM
This is complete and utter bull imo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/7758089.stm

There was no racist intentions at all it was just a piss take just like singing that they're all child molestors is,i'm not saying that it's funny but if that is chargeable why is singing about molesting kids acceptable,this country is fukd up the pc brigade really wind me up ffs




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on December 05, 2008, 05:17:10 PM
Sighhhhhhhhh seriously, If anyone thinks Mido is really a shoe bomber, or Sol Campbell is really a C**t because they heard it at a football game then I pity them ... what next, lets ban hull city fans from singing "By far the greatest team, the world has ever seen" because people might actually think its true, and a million other chants ... fuck off censors and leave football alone.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 05, 2008, 05:25:18 PM
If this now sets a precedant then nearly the full away contingent of every football ground in the country will be arrested come on ffs this is ridic.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 05, 2008, 06:58:52 PM
Fuck my entire life.

That is all.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 05, 2008, 07:02:57 PM
Fuck my entire life.

That is all.

??


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 06, 2008, 12:37:20 PM
Yesterday should have been the last exam I ever had to take - but I'm 90% sure I'm going to be resiting it in 6 months time, and give myself another 3 months of weekend college in the process. Not good, not happy. Having said this there is nothing I can do about it now - other than get drunk and have some delayed birthday nights out!!


Big big game today. Hopefully We'll put on a display today and pick up three point. I think I might be asking too much though!

I wasn't happy with Kinnear's comments about Martins. The last thing we want to do is drive Oba out the door when Michael Owen is having dinner with Peter Kenyon at Stamford Bridge less than 48 hours before a game in Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 06, 2008, 01:24:54 PM
Yesterday should have been the last exam I ever had to take - but I'm 90% sure I'm going to be resiting it in 6 months time, and give myself another 3 months of weekend college in the process. Not good, not happy. Having said this there is nothing I can do about it now - other than get drunk and have some delayed birthday nights out!!


Big big game today. Hopefully We'll put on a display today and pick up three point. I think I might be asking too much though!

I wasn't happy with Kinnear's comments about Martins. The last thing we want to do is drive Oba out the door when Michael Owen is having dinner with Peter Kenyon at Stamford Bridge less than 48 hours before a game in Newcastle.

Where did you hear this ?

GL with results you never know you may of passed


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 06, 2008, 03:29:47 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 2-0 hold plz

Sigh at missing the game due to having to study FML


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on December 06, 2008, 04:54:36 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 2-0 hold plz

Sigh at missing the game due to having to study FML

BOK !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 06, 2008, 05:00:12 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 2-0 hold plz

Sigh at missing the game due to having to study FML

BOK !

Like i didn't expect it i put hold plz i hate football gg life

Great performance 1st half 2nd half absolute joke wp boys good half time team talk joe ffffffffffssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr FML


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 06, 2008, 05:21:51 PM
FML. Watched two different teams today. Could see their goals coming. Like I said before we are in trouble from dropping points against these teams- we'll have to get points against the top teams at home now.

The owen thing came directly from my mate who was at a function there on Thursday night.

Knap in the car on the way back and go to love some booze tonight to numb the pain.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 06, 2008, 05:26:00 PM
FML. Watched two different teams today. Could see their goals coming. Like I said before we are in trouble from dropping points against these teams- we'll have to get points against the top teams at home now.

The owen thing came directly from my mate who was at a function there on Thursday night.

Knap in the car on the way back and go to love some booze tonight to numb the pain.

Pretty sure that it ain't true like but see what happens, we have bigger worries than just him to be fair


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 06, 2008, 06:42:56 PM
Finishing the game with a CB and winger playing centre midfield says it all.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 12, 2008, 07:53:41 PM
Owen to Chelsea. Done (?). January for a couple of million as opposed to June for free I would guess. Lets hope we dont need goals at the end of the season to stay up... oh hang on, we will.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on December 13, 2008, 05:59:58 AM
ive been told Harry wants Owen.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 13, 2008, 07:10:48 AM
He probably does want him, but u have no chance. Unlike 99% of footballers I think the london factor is something owen doesn't want. I'm sure he would put up with it for CL football but not a mid table team.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on December 13, 2008, 03:58:27 PM
who can afford his wages, unless he is gonna take a huge pay cut, he wont go anywhere.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Pelham Boy on December 13, 2008, 04:13:14 PM
ive been told Harry wants Owen.

Was it the same person who told you Berbatov and Keane were going nowhere?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 15, 2008, 08:19:59 PM
FML. Watched two different teams today. Could see their goals coming. Like I said before we are in trouble from dropping points against these teams- we'll have to get points against the top teams at home now.

The owen thing came directly from my mate who was at a function there on Thursday night.

Knap in the car on the way back and go to love some booze tonight to numb the pain.

Pretty sure that it ain't true like but see what happens, we have bigger worries than just him to be fair

FML. My mate finally confessed that he was taking the piss about Owen. Given that he told me in an email 30 minutes before my last exam I took it that he wouldnt be putting me on tilt!! Oh well.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 15, 2008, 08:29:01 PM
The best sound I have ever heard in my life...... (other than the SJP roar!) Lewis Hamilton's McClaren echoing round Wembley stadium! Absolutely awesome.

Given that I'm not going to be going to Wembley anytime soon to watch Newcastle I thought the Race of Champions was a good opportunity to have a look, have a night out in London and watch some pretty crazy car driving. Would reccommend the ROC as an event. Okay so it was long, there were some decent lengths bits of filling with the same people doing the same things but for 40 quid you get 6 hours worth - puts football in its place. Some of the food prices are an absolute joke, others are just a joke - but I guess they need to recoup the millions somehow.

So I missed the game on Sunday, with them refusing to put it on in the concourse instead of showing the thing that was out in the area area! It was a nice suprise to get goal alerts from my Dad, and them all being the right way! A great result, even if Pompey aren't seen as being the same team these days. Down to just a couple of injuries and we are starting to look okay - if we hadn't of thrown away 4 points against Stoke and Wigan we'd be pushing for Europe!

Funny old game.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 15, 2008, 11:03:52 PM
FML. Watched two different teams today. Could see their goals coming. Like I said before we are in trouble from dropping points against these teams- we'll have to get points against the top teams at home now.

The owen thing came directly from my mate who was at a function there on Thursday night.

Knap in the car on the way back and go to love some booze tonight to numb the pain.

Pretty sure that it ain't true like but see what happens, we have bigger worries than just him to be fair

FML. My mate finally confessed that he was taking the piss about Owen. Given that he told me in an email 30 minutes before my last exam I took it that he wouldnt be putting me on tilt!! Oh well.

Ok i've had a few drinks so i'm gonna give everyone a chance to take some money off me,Michael Owen will be playing in a black and white shirt next season(the 1st game of next season just to clear that up) max bet is 20 quid you've got til i wake up in the morning and anyone asking will be matched in the morning.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on December 16, 2008, 09:52:34 PM
   Well done Bylth Spartans,getting through to the 3rd round proper.Just googled there cup run when i was a kid and they got 42,000 for the home game at SJP in 1978(5th round replay)now off to find out if this is a record for a non league team,got to be surely?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 21, 2008, 09:47:15 PM
For brief spells today i thought we were going to miss out on two (or all!!) of our usual guaranteed 3 points against spurs, but thankfully, for once, it was us who managed to get the late goal! I couldn't honestly say we deserved it, a point a piece would probably have been fair. That's one of the worst performances we have put in over the past 8 or so games. Jonas looked knackered right from a first minute collision, Enrique got booked very early on and was on egg shells against Lennon for the rest of the game. (I hate Enrique, because of his complete lack of heart, but he has pace and I thought he did okay today. okay so Lennon is hit and miss and apart from his pace can look pretty average.) But dispite not clicking we picked up three big big points and can now begin to look up at teams we should be looking to get ahead of.

Mention for Basssong, who I am pleased to say is keeping Taylor out the team. He looks good, but also very quick which I like in a CB. Sometimes like to play too much football for me, but until it bites him on the arse I'll have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Guthrie is also turning into a good player. He has looked decent all season (minus that stupid kick), always wants the ball and rarely gives it away. If he can be a bit stronger in the tackle he'll turn into a big big player for us over the next two years.

Three signings I'd love in the transfer window:
Upson
Bullard
Warnock

Longer term we need a striker to go with that, to replace Viduka.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 21, 2008, 09:50:37 PM
   Well done Bylth Spartans,getting through to the 3rd round proper.Just googled there cup run when i was a kid and they got 42,000 for the home game at SJP in 1978(5th round replay)now off to find out if this is a record for a non league team,got to be surely?

Good reception for them at half time.

My dad constantly goes on about how the ball wasnt in the corner D in the last minute of that 5th round replay whenever the spartans do anything of note!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 21, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
Does this mean we are a bigger club than spurs, surely

shiiiiiiiiiiiiip it


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on December 22, 2008, 05:59:10 PM
Owen to wait till the end of the season to decide his future.

Does this mean he has definitely gone or he is actually thinking about staying with the toon depending on what they do?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on December 22, 2008, 06:58:18 PM
   Well this is Owen as good as gone.My feelings are mixed,i'd liked him to show a bit more loyalty to NUFC as we were stuck with him thoughout these injury prone years,however i can see why he would want a tilt at champions league football before his career is over and give himself a higher profile in England terms.(i'am sure money has little or no factor in his decision).Owen is the consummate proffesional and will hopefully keep fit and keep scoring and therefore secure us in the top flight this year,i hope the fans don't get on his back.

BTW if he signs with another mediocre premiership side i will dispise him as i think i will have misjudged him as a man.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 22, 2008, 07:54:15 PM
No great surprise. I only have two issues, one being the fact that 'we' have given him the perfect excuse to show no loyalty. Secondly, back to a post a few pages back, before the Chelsea red herring, which was trying to name a club he could go to, play and get paid near what he does now. I can't see him anywhere outside the EPL.

Ignore all the bs about there being no loyalty in football. MO owes Newcastle big time. I feel loyalty to my employer for spending £20k to qualify me as an accountant. MO has had £20m out of Newcastle and only earned half of that amount at best. I want him to stay, but no player should be bigger than the club and that Is effectively what he now is, having us over a barrel. Like post above, if he leaves for anything but CL football I'd be very upset. Villa getting in the top four could be a big factor?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on December 28, 2008, 10:38:55 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7801792.stm

Roughly translated as "no fucker with money and a brain would touch it with a 10ft pole"


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on December 28, 2008, 02:55:11 PM
Looks like the team rallied behind their chairman today to celebrate the good news.   ;whistle;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 28, 2008, 03:08:48 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 28, 2008, 07:19:44 PM
Can't even bring myself to relive any of that game. An absolute disgrace. Could be the worst performance I have ever seen. Something about wenger wanting given, Taylor and nzogbia today. If it let's shay given play at the top level and gets steven Taylor out my club then I'd be tempted to sacrifice Charlie. Waste of space. Can take enrique with him too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 01, 2009, 04:08:34 PM
[  ] We run good

Massive game for us vs hull yet we are struggling to get 11 players together for it,I say its massive since our season is over bar the derby game if we lose and of course the fun of a relegation battle being a possibilty so a cup run is only thing to keep any enjoyment in our season.Fuck Our Lives

[  ] This will be the only time i moan about how unlucky we are this year


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on January 15, 2009, 09:27:09 PM
I think this is the most out of love with football I have ever been. Its not just results and struggling, because I've been through that with Newcastle a few times. I'm starting to question my whole passion for following my team. I dont live in the area anymore, the cost of going is about 60quid a game (definately not value!), and it takes a good 5 hours minimum for each home game.

The start of this year has had non football downs, finding my grandad has three forms of cancer and probably wont see too much of 2009 isnt nice, the only comfort being that since my Nana died 10 months ago he hasnt been happy and |I think in a way he is more than comfortable with the fact his time will be up soon. He is an absoute legend, and I'm glad I have seen in more in recent years, and plan to make as much use of the time left as possible.

Back to football. The Man City revolution appears to be kicking in. I cant help but be amused by the whole thing, its bad for football, but its no worse than a Roman loan or a Glaizier finacing deal. Real Madrid had a few top world class stars a few years ago, and they didnt clean up everything (infact it was a lean spell for them), I cant see man city doing it, as some of the worlds best footballers just wont want to play for them. They will never have the history of a Real Madrid, Barca, Man U, AC milan etc.

Full circle, back to Newcastle. Massive game on Saturday, a 6 pointer already, Blackburn away. We are struggling so much with injuries and a complete lack of ability that I think it will be a further low point and a test for the confidence. On the other hand, if we could find a win from somewhere we would be starting to create a little gap between us and the drop zone.  Mike Ashleys subsidising still isnt appearing, and to not even see us linked with an available england international midfielder is sad. We are crying out for CM replacement for Butt and I think Bullard would be ideal.

Transfer requirement (before the start of next season):

Out:
Xisco ('m glad I ahve the ability to pick a player better than D Wise. After 4 touches and ten minutes I said he wasnt good enough)
Jose Enrique (No heart at all. He has pace, but I just dont want him taking money for the effort he puts in)
Geremi (too old and slow, possibily overweight. 1.5m sounds like very good business for a sale)
Taylor (give him away for free if need be. absolute prick and not even a championship level defender)
Viduka (If he gets a new contract I'll cry)

So 5 out, an already small squad, all means we need to get 8 players in before next season. Small issue of the three who might want out/dont have a contract, FML, I'll turn to rugby league or something.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on January 16, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
FMEL. JK offered a full deal. I can't see how that is good for our 'progress' over the next 5 years.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on January 22, 2009, 07:35:50 PM
A mate of mine found this piece written by a Newcastle fan on a football forum. Its reads so much like what I think, for the most part, I thought I'd just lift it.




There is a song by Sheffield-based band Reverend and the Makers called 'The State of Things'. It's a good song that kicks off a half-decent album. In the song 'The Reverend' himself wants to 'make you aware of the state of things'.

Well for today I'm going to be 'The Reverend'. Though instead of telling you what 21st century everyday life is like in a northern city, I'm going to tell you about 'The State of Thing'" at Newcastle United FC. Be prepared: it's not going to be pretty.

I've been going to watch Newcastle since 1990. This is my 19th season. I realise I've been quite lucky and haven't really endured any really bad times. The worst period was probably the first two seasons before Keegan became manager.

My first game was in the old Second Division against West Ham United in 1990 and we drew 1-1. I was six and can remember sitting on the barrier in the Gallowgate End and spending much of the time staring back at the scoreboard. I was mesmorised by it. I loved that scoreboard. In the next couple of years I took in quite a few games for an under-10. Hull City away at Boothferry Park was my first away game. We lost 2-1.

I was also privileged to see the likes of Port Vale, Plymouth and Cambridge. In those early days, I didn't really realise how poor we were but I loved going to the match with my dad and my brother. In a way it wasn't about the team being great it was about being brought up to love football and experiencing live football. I remember paying three quid to get in and having to go through the 'junior' turnstile separate to my dad. That is a scary thing to do when you're six or seven. But I'm glad I had those couple of years where things were rubbish and the ground was appalling because at least I have some bearing of what things used to be like. I may not have been through the really bleak days like some of you reading this but I'm aware of where we came from.

Of course Keegan soon took over and that was probably the first time I was aware that Newcastle United was a special football club. Anyone there the day we played and beat Bristol City 3-0 in Keegan's first match will know that it was an amazing day with St James' 'packed to the rafters', to coin a football cliché.

I don't need to remind you of what happened after that but needless to say if it weren't for that man we wouldn't be where we are today, in the Premier League with the greatest-looking stadium in the country.

Over the last 15 years I've enjoyed some of Newastle United's finest moments. I was there when we beat Man Utd 5-0. I saw Tino's hat trick against Barcelona. I was in the Gallowgate End when Shearer scored arguably the goal of his career against Everton. I was inside the San Siro when Shearer scored twice in a 2-2 draw against Inter Milan in the Champions League. I was at Wembley when Rob Lee scored against Chelsea. I was at Old Trafford in 1998 and 1999 as we saw off Sheffield United and Spurs in consecutive cup semi-finals. I also happened to be at Ewood Park as Shearer scored twice in an FA Cup match as we saw off Blackburn 2-1 to reach the sixth round.

Unfortunately I was also at Ewood Park on 17th January 2009. There is some irony in the fact that Keegan leaving early this season has put us in the terrible situation we now face with Joe Kinnear in charge.

I'm not sure what is concerning me the most right now. There is so much wrong at Newcastle United it's actually hard to find anything positive to write about at the moment. In all the years I've supported Newcastle I've never known a bleaker outlook.

Let's start with the players. Admittedly we have some good players in our squad. Given, Bassong, Barton and Owen would be a strong spine of a team. The likes of Beye, Jonas, N'Zogbia and Martins are all capable Premier League players as well. Guthrie is showing decent potential, as is Collocini.

Apart from those we're really clutching at straws. The likes of Edgar, Duff and Shola shouldn't even be at the club let alone in the first team actually playing matches. Nicky Butt can't play so many games anymore either; you simply can't rely on him. The less said about Enrique the better. For a professional footballer he seems to struggle enormously with simple things such as passing. I'm not sure what to say about Taylor either but his chest-beating big man act is getting a bit tiresome to be honest, though I'd sooner have him in the team ahead of Edgar.

What is truly scary is that most of our players aren't good enough and the ones who are all want to leave.

Let's clear another thing up shall we? Joe Kinnear is way out of his depth at Newcastle United. I mean really, really clueless and it's about time we started to realise this. He is tactically inept and he even struggles to pick the right team from the tiny pool of players available to him. Duff appears to be the first on the team sheet and is never considered for substitution. For a prime example of Kinnear's lack of managerial ability, let's look at the team against Blackburn.

He started with Duff on the right and N'Zogbia on the left. Jonas was on the bench. He should have started with Duff on the bench and Jonas on the right. Duff was ineffective...again. He kept cutting inside and drifting into the middle so we had no outlet on the right. Nothing new there I suppose.

However, when we went 1-0 down our team was crying out for a change and for most supporters the switch to make was obvious. Jonas on for Duff. N'Zogbia with his pace and ability to run was far more of a threat than Duff. However, a few minutes passed and Kinnear stood looking at bits of paper with Chris Hughton. There must have been a naked woman on the paper or something because they were studying it really hard and for a long time. So long in fact that Blackburn went 2-0 up. "We want Spiderman," were the chants from the away end. Jonas for Duff. Come on Joe, this one is easy! But still he stood there and didn't move while Barton and Jonas warmed up. A while later and finally a substitution that had come 10 minutes too late. Now surely was Jonas's time to come on for Duff, right?

What Kinnear actually did next just proved to me that he hasn't a clue what he's doing. Not only did Jonas not come on, he actually took N'Zogbia off instead of Duff. As pleasing as it was to see Barton come on and look up for the fight, so to speak, it was not the correct change. It left us with Guthrie on the left and Duff on the right with no prospect of us getting back into the game whatsoever.

Look at Kinnear's record since he came - it's not great at all. We weren't expecting miracles of course but we shouldn't have to accept a manager that had his day ten years ago and clearly fails to motivate the team at all. His constant waffle to the press is embarrassing. Most of what he says turns out to be incorrect. Quite often the opposite of what he states happens. He's simply a puppet to an owner who is paying him a ridiculous sum of money. He mustn't be able to believe his luck and we're the idiots that are seemingly tolerating it all.

As for Mike Ashley, I've never been so annoyed with anyone related to football as I am with this joker. Just the thought of what he is doing to MY club actually makes me get angry. How can he possibly be fine with ruining a football club steeped in history and tradition? A club that means so much to so many normal decent people. A club that is the heartbeat of the city of Newcastle. So what if we've not won anything for 40 years - it doesn't matter. What does matter is that there is a club people can be proud of.

It isn't about Ashley not having an affiliation with Newcastle - it's much simpler than that. He's a guy that cares more about his ego than he does for a whole football club and its supporters. He's happy to watch as the club sinks to it's lowest ebb in the last 20 years. In other words since I started watching Newcastle.

What annoys me most about Mike Ashley is he's arrogant enough to believe that a simple statement will dupe us into believing everything is okay. Well, Mr Ashley, I'm afraid we're not as stupid as you'd have us down for. You see, if you make a statement saying you're going to communicate more with supporters on December 28th then you had better start communicating sometime before January the 21st (and counting). Did he honestly believe we wouldn't notice that nothing has come out of the club apart from a wall of silence?

He has no intention of spending another penny on Newcastle United and the sad truth of the matter is that he is asset-stripping to save as much of his own money as he can. The words 'speculate to accumulate' should mean something to Ashley but they obviously don't.

If he spent say £20m this transfer window on five or six decent solid Premier League players then he'd save the value of the club. As it is, going down will simply see him losing more money. If he hasn't realised that then I'd have to question just how intelligent he is. What kind of business owner of any kind doesn't communicate with its customers? It is an unprecedented situation we're in and I fear it will get a whole lot worse before it gets better.

Mike Ashley has washed his hands of the club and it's up to us as supporters to unite and do what we can to make sure he knows at every match that things have to change. Whether we can make things change is debatable but one thing is for certain, doing nothing hasn't worked, so what have we got to lose?

If the club had a structure and we simply weren't good enough on the pitch then we could at least accept relegation as painful as it would be. But to have a club in limbo the way it is when things could be done to prevent it makes this whole situation unbearable.

I fear that trips to the likes of Plymouth, Blackpool and Doncaster may be back in time for my 20th season of watching Newcastle.

Ian Smith



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on January 29, 2009, 06:49:00 AM
I will take the three points for City, but bad news on the injury front with Barton and Owen out for a while.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on January 29, 2009, 08:30:05 AM
Good Luck Newcaslte fans,

hopefully the inability of the current bottom 3 & Pompey & Hull will be your saving grace.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 29, 2009, 04:16:54 PM
Good Luck Newcaslte fans,

hopefully the inability of the current bottom 3 & Pompey & Hull will be your saving grace.

Cheers mate,we're going to need it.Be surprised if there has ever been a bigger derby than what sunday is for us if we lose i think we're down FFS this is sick, CHEERS MIKE.Add to that the fact it all kicked off down there if we lose I wouldn't envy being a copper in the ground, sigh




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on January 30, 2009, 01:45:21 PM
    Nice write up by Mr Smith,i'am depressed by the whole situation our only saving grace is there may be a few teams even worse than us.Relegation is not the end of the world,been there done that 1988/89 life went on.Three years later we nearly went down to the old third division,i think i went to every game home and away that season it was soul destroying however the last game away to Leicester we got the result we needed and survived it still remains as the most memorable match i've ever been to,it was worth all the pain that preceeded it.
    The title of this thread is Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....lets face it,it's almost always downs does it stop me loving my club not in the slightest in a peverted way it probably makes me care more.
    Where do we go from here?God only knows,will we beat the SMB on Sunday?I'am dreading it,we seem to be in freefall and if we lose i think were down.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on January 30, 2009, 05:07:15 PM
Excellent signing in Nolan.

Also, Kinnear is a legend. Talking about N'Zogbia, he said on sky sports news, "one week hes joining Chelsea, the next Man Utd or the next week Leeds".

Exactly which decade is this guy stuck in  :) Every1 at work pissed themselves.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 30, 2009, 05:29:40 PM
Excellent signing in Nolan.

Also, Kinnear is a legend. Talking about N'Zogbia, he said on sky sports news, "one week hes joining Chelsea, the next Man Utd or the next week Leeds".

Exactly which decade is this guy stuck in  :) Every1 at work pissed themselves.

Pretty sure he has already done this too regarding leeds,i bet he is wondering why we ain't played them yet,the man is a joke and this club is going to get relegated this season which, whatever fkn excuses he wants to make is partly his fault


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on January 31, 2009, 10:22:38 PM
Very worried by tomorrow. Its not a game that we can even afford to take a draw and save some pride. Its an actual must win, we will need these 3 points to stay up this season.

Another nightmare week for us, I'm tempted to take some boots tomorrow and go for a game up front, I'd be more use than Xisco I know that. I think Nolan is a good signing, and I think we still have a decent first 11, but not even half of them will be fit for tomorrow. Cisse and Jones will tear Taylor up for arse paper, he'll make some stupid tackles and give the game away. I can see it now.

Given looks to be gone, and as I have said before good luck to him. A few things on this though. Firstly why does he need it to be now rather than the summer? Why are Man City trying to make it look like they cant be taken for a ride, Bridge £12m FFS. Given has as many years left at the top as Bridge so there can be no sell on BS. £12m or £8m plus a player or two. Given will be more of an asset to the team than Bridge too. I think Sturrage on loan until the end of the season should be looked at (if he is fit?).

Charlie had so much potential and has just completely stagnated in the last 18 months, whilst he appears to have been unhappy being so far from his family in London. He wants to move to a club with more amibition etc. Wigan! I suppose it might be a touch closer to London.

I was looking for a net increase in the squad of 3 players, and at best it looks liek we'll be at the same number. The extra injuries in midweek will be huge, unless we can get Oba fit and firing I just cant see where the goals will come from to keep us up.

Come the end of the season, staying up or going down, there is a mass clear out needed. Owen, Duff, Viduka, Smith are all a massive £290k a week liability and between them they just dont play enough. Wages are dangerously high in percentage of revenue, I'd guess the highest in the league now, and our revenues are only going to fall further. The next TV deal will do well to beat the last and that must surely now have peaked as people will become less passionate about a sport (the top division of it anyway) that has now gone beyond too many fans to remain in this state. There is a massive amount fo work to do at SJP, and its not going to be easy or pretty.

For the record there have been some 'good' things going on at Newcastle. We are certainly one of the busiest clubs around at buying up young talent from abroad. Obviously I'd love to have more local lads come through, but hopefully a decent mix can be attained. There is a young lad called Nile Ranger who is scoring a few goals at most team levels below the first, I'd quite like to see someone like that thrown into a Derby game, again he cant be worse than Xisco.

Please God let us have some luck, tomorrow and in the run in.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: amcgrath1uk on January 31, 2009, 10:35:43 PM
Very worried by tomorrow. Its not a game that we can even afford to take a draw and save some pride. Its an actual must win, we will need these 3 points to stay up this season.

Another nightmare week for us, I'm tempted to take some boots tomorrow and go for a game up front, I'd be more use than Xisco I know that. I think Nolan is a good signing, and I think we still have a decent first 11, but not even half of them will be fit for tomorrow. Cisse and Jones will tear Taylor up for arse paper, he'll make some stupid tackles and give the game away. I can see it now.

Given looks to be gone, and as I have said before good luck to him. A few things on this though. Firstly why does he need it to be now rather than the summer? Why are Man City trying to make it look like they cant be taken for a ride, Bridge £12m FFS. Given has as many years left at the top as Bridge so there can be no sell on BS. £12m or £8m plus a player or two. Given will be more of an asset to the team than Bridge too. I think Sturrage on loan until the end of the season should be looked at (if he is fit?).

Charlie had so much potential and has just completely stagnated in the last 18 months, whilst he appears to have been unhappy being so far from his family in London. He wants to move to a club with more amibition etc. Wigan! I suppose it might be a touch closer to London.

I was looking for a net increase in the squad of 3 players, and at best it looks liek we'll be at the same number. The extra injuries in midweek will be huge, unless we can get Oba fit and firing I just cant see where the goals will come from to keep us up.

Come the end of the season, staying up or going down, there is a mass clear out needed. Owen, Duff, Viduka, Smith are all a massive £290k a week liability and between them they just dont play enough. Wages are dangerously high in percentage of revenue, I'd guess the highest in the league now, and our revenues are only going to fall further. The next TV deal will do well to beat the last and that must surely now have peaked as people will become less passionate about a sport (the top division of it anyway) that has now gone beyond too many fans to remain in this state. There is a massive amount fo work to do at SJP, and its not going to be easy or pretty.

For the record there have been some 'good' things going on at Newcastle. We are certainly one of the busiest clubs around at buying up young talent from abroad. Obviously I'd love to have more local lads come through, but hopefully a decent mix can be attained. There is a young lad called Nile Ranger who is scoring a few goals at most team levels below the first, I'd quite like to see someone like that thrown into a Derby game, again he cant be worse than Xisco.

Please God let us have some luck, tomorrow and in the run in.

Think I might try the same with City... aka take my boots for a game

best of luck 2moro.. hate Sunderland with a passion.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 01, 2009, 12:30:30 AM
Please God let us have some luck, tomorrow and in the run in.

TY God, this can only be a good sign.

Full  (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206)Tilt (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206) Poker Game #10362541315: $22,500 Guarantee (78246228), Table 12 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:26:26 ET - 2009/01/31
Seat 1: efzd (8,702)
Seat 2: GDOCTOR (33,617)
Seat 3: Arti TAG Tilt (7,150)
Seat 5: TheAuditor9 (20,094)
Seat 6: freeWilly73 (16,417)
Seat 7: DirkReems (29,324)
Seat 8: superaids2 (30,774)
Seat 9: evgenii17 (10,040)
efzd antes 100
GDOCTOR antes 100
Arti TAG Tilt antes 100
TheAuditor9 antes 100
freeWilly73 antes 100
DirkReems antes 100
superaids2 antes 100
evgenii17 antes 100
TheAuditor9 posts the small blind of 400
freeWilly73 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheAuditor9 [Jd Jh]
DirkReems folds
zippy525 sits down
zippy525 adds 20,914
superaids2 folds
evgenii17 folds
efzd folds
GDOCTOR calls 800
Arti TAG Tilt folds
TheAuditor9 calls 400
freeWilly73 checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 8c Ks]
TheAuditor9 checks
freeWilly73 checks
GDOCTOR bets 3,200
TheAuditor9 calls 3,200
freeWilly73 folds
*** TURN *** [8s 8c Ks] [3c]
TheAuditor9 checks
GDOCTOR bets 9,600
TheAuditor9 raises to 15,994, and is all in
GDOCTOR calls 6,394
TheAuditor9 shows [Jd Jh]
GDOCTOR shows [7d Kd]
*** RIVER *** [8s 8c Ks 3c] [Js]
TheAuditor9 shows a full house, Jacks full of Eights
GDOCTOR shows two pair, Kings and Eights
TheAuditor9 wins the pot (41,588) with a full house, Jacks full of Eights
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 41,588 | Rake 0
Board: [8s 8c Ks 3c Js]
Seat 1: efzd folded before the Flop
Seat 2: GDOCTOR showed [7d Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 3: Arti TAG Tilt (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: TheAuditor9 (small blind) showed [Jd Jh] and won (41,588) with a full house, Jacks full of Eights
Seat 6: freeWilly73 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: DirkReems folded before the Flop
Seat 8: superaids2 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: evgenii17 folded before the Flop

1 of 60 in the Full  (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206)Tilt (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206) 22.5k. One time etc.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 01, 2009, 01:39:16 AM
Used my poker luck... this would have been a nice one to hit as well though.

Full  (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206)Tilt (http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/12206) Poker Game #10363678356: $22,500 Guarantee (78246228), Table 12 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:36:34 ET - 2009/01/31
Seat 1: hamer93 (61,190)
Seat 2: Wawa711 (30,440)
Seat 4: zippy525 (30,656)
Seat 5: TheAuditor9 (45,293)
Seat 6: freeWilly73 (60,817)
Seat 7: Balla-B13 (41,354)
Seat 8: BigStackBBQ (68,776)
Seat 9: snowed888 (229,980)
hamer93 antes 300
Wawa711 antes 300
zippy525 antes 300
TheAuditor9 antes 300
freeWilly73 antes 300
Balla-B13 antes 300
BigStackBBQ antes 300
snowed888 antes 300
zippy525 posts the small blind of 1,200
TheAuditor9 posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheAuditor9 [Jd Ad]
freeWilly73 folds
Balla-B13 raises to 6,000
BigStackBBQ folds
snowed888 folds
hamer93 folds
Wawa711 folds
zippy525 folds
TheAuditor9 calls 3,600
*** FLOP *** [9d 5d 3c]
TheAuditor9 checks
Balla-B13 bets 9,600
TheAuditor9 raises to 38,993, and is all in
Balla-B13 calls 25,454, and is all in
TheAuditor9 shows [Jd Ad]
Balla-B13 shows [Qh Qc]
Uncalled bet of 3,939 returned to TheAuditor9
*** TURN *** [9d 5d 3c] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [9d 5d 3c Ks] [4c]
TheAuditor9 shows Ace King high
Balla-B13 shows a pair of Queens
Balla-B13 wins the pot (85,708) with a pair of Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 85,708 | Rake 0
Board: [9d 5d 3c Ks 4c]
Seat 1: hamer93 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Wawa711 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: zippy525 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: TheAuditor9 (big blind) showed [Jd Ad] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 6: freeWilly73 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Balla-B13 showed [Qh Qc] and won (85,708) with a pair of Queens
Seat 8: BigStackBBQ folded before the Flop
Seat 9: snowed888 folded before the Flop


20th of 490....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 01, 2009, 09:15:05 AM
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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 03, 2009, 03:25:17 AM
You really have to question what the hell anyone at the top of NUFC has up top. If we did want michael Johnson why wouldn't we use the leverage of Given to get him. Seems absolutely mental, we held all the cards in order to do that.

That's the last two transfer windows that have had a net incoming of cash. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 03, 2009, 04:22:48 PM
You really have to question what the hell anyone at the top of NUFC has up top. If we did want michael Johnson why wouldn't we use the leverage of Given to get him. Seems absolutely mental, we held all the cards in order to do that.

That's the last two transfer windows that have had a net incoming of cash

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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 03, 2009, 08:09:17 PM
Today is undoubtably the lowest of the downs since this thread started. Today I lost my last grandparent, the one I was closest to and the one who is the biggest part of me. I cant even begin to contemplate having the ability to write something that could do him justice, or my feelings for him, or the loss that him not being there will create in my life. Whilst it has being coming for a couple of weeks the deteriation in his health was frightening, seeing someone you love lose the will to live is pretty tough for me to take. My nana died about 11 months ago and know he found it tough, I think not long after that he wanted out. Coping after 60 years with someone must be tough. He developed lung and bone cancer (still waiting to find out which was the primary - he was due for an appintment today, which my dad was to attend for accuracy) and he lost his apetite. He wouldnt eat, whether he could or not I dont know, but I think that was very much his choice, even under pleas from family.

I have no ability to be able to let you know, but if I could I would thank you for all you have done for me, for being the best grandad in the world and making me laugh so much. I'm never going to forget you.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on February 03, 2009, 08:11:23 PM
Very sorry to hear the sad news, Condolences to you and your family.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 03, 2009, 08:24:30 PM
Really sorry Rooky


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on February 03, 2009, 08:27:44 PM
Really sorry to hear about this Chris.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on February 03, 2009, 09:33:35 PM
norrrrrrrrrrr, sorry to hear the sad news.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on February 03, 2009, 10:31:34 PM
I am sorry to hear that Rooky, my thoughts are with you and your family.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: amcgrath1uk on February 03, 2009, 11:25:05 PM
Very sorry to hear about that Rooky. All thoughts with you and yours.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on February 04, 2009, 09:43:48 AM
Sorry to hear this,sounded like he had a big influence on your life.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 04, 2009, 10:19:03 AM
Sorry to hear this mate. Sincere condolonces.

Geo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 14, 2009, 09:07:29 AM
I said goodbye to my Grandad yesterday and I have decided that today marks the start of an increased effort to live life. As part of this I am setting myself some big (ish) physical challanges for 2009 in which I will look to use the memory of my grandad to i) provide motivation and ii) to influence the cause I will undertake these for.

The challange is 4 fold.
i) Leeds 10k. Run a PB (under 50:58). Look to run sub 48 mins.
ii) Walk from Liverpool to Leeds (127miles via the canal route)
iii) Great North Run. Run a PB (Under 1:59:00). Look to run under 1hr45m
iv) Marathon (hopefully the NYC marathon). Run a PB (bit of a cheat, never ran a marathon!). Look to finish! under 4 hours would be brilliant for me.


Football wise the direct debits for next year's season ticket have started to come out of the bank. Obviously at the time of signing up I didnt see a particular risk of commiting and having to watch Championship football. Actually I dont see that as a huge risk (in terms of us going down and the fact I'd still go anyway, though perhaps at a lower fee!). It will be interesting to see how many season ticket holders there actually are next year, I think there will be a huge hit unless relations between fans and owners improvesd dramatically, we get a 'proper' manager in and there is sign of significant commitment in the summer.

On the manager front you really do have to feel for Joe Kinnear. I dont want him as our manager, but I dont verbally air that at games as I dont see that as having any positive effect (to be fair there has never been many rumblings against the manager). Sadly the position was never really going to suit someone with health issues and I just hope they have caught his latest setback to not have too much of a long term effect on his life.

A cracking result last week against West Brom, though I did have little faith of not throwing a two goal lead away after they got their second. There are a number of key games for us to win between now and the end of the season and if we can get down to only having one of two injuries then I think we'll be reasonably comfotable. We are operating at the moment without arguably the first 4 choice strikers, two central midfielders who would be competing for a place alongside Nolan for me (for most games) and a proper right back. Every team in the league would suffer massively with a list like that. I think ourselves and West Brom were top of the injury list last weekend.

Anyway, a well timed two week break should hopefully give us a chance to get some of those back, and get on a bit of a run.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 14, 2009, 10:34:19 AM
Good Luck with the challenges


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 14, 2009, 11:47:11 AM
Good Luck with the challenges

Cheers mate


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 16, 2009, 06:13:59 AM
A high (non football related obv)

No more exams ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (we'll see how true this holds, but potentially anyway)

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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on February 16, 2009, 07:31:28 AM
A high (non football related obv)

No more exams ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (we'll see how true this holds, but potentially anyway)

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Congratulations. Can't wait to be in the same position!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 17, 2009, 09:33:55 PM
A high (non football related obv)

No more exams ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (we'll see how true this holds, but potentially anyway)

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Congratulations. Can't wait to be in the same position!

Good luck, get there as soon as you can! If u put the effort in then you will get the results. Such a relief to be done rather than anything else, but good all the same!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Gamblor21 on February 17, 2009, 09:38:55 PM
A high (non football related obv)

No more exams ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (we'll see how true this holds, but potentially anyway)

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1/10 that you do no more exams... Good luck with the challenges, even though the canal one would be better if you swim it!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 17, 2009, 09:43:50 PM
Dubai on Thursday fir a few days, perfect time for a bit of sun, but not too much, I burn! It should be an adventure, and a little unlike most peoples Dubai trip. A combination of taking a rucksack, flying business class and staying in holiday inn express' is a strange mix! Can't wait though.

I have been making early plans for my challenges and have a big decision to make on the new York marathon. Basically the best way of getting in is paying 209events.co.uk a ridculous amount of money for a place. They are so overporced for flights (that u have to take), it's a bit of a con. You can go down this route then run for a charity who will give you some money back depending on how much u raise. I'm not sure how I feel about that though. Seems a bit dodgy on the sponsors to me. Anyhow the chances of getting in on the ballot are less than London so I'll have to think seriously about doing it. Paying about £1200 for 3 days to run 26.2 miles seems a bit much though!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 17, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
A high (non football related obv)

No more exams ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (we'll see how true this holds, but potentially anyway)

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

1/10 that you do no more exams... Good luck with the challenges, even though the canal one would be better if you swim it!

You know I only understand decimal odds! Yes, the air transport pilot licence exams will ruin that plan I guess!! 

No body should ever swim in canal water!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on February 18, 2009, 09:37:08 PM
Former Tottenham manager Juande Ramos, who is now caretaker manager at Real Madrid, says he has been offered a return to the Premier League and is considering taking the job. He has been linked with Newcastle. (Daily Mirror)


good luck with that !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 18, 2009, 09:56:20 PM
Ramos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joe Kinnear & Friends


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 18, 2009, 10:10:47 PM
Newcastle cant have someone with a questionable record in the PL. Whether that means no record or a good record I'm not sure sure, but Ramos will not do. I'd sooner have Sven.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 18, 2009, 10:48:10 PM
Would defo take sven over ramos,he is much better than any candidate who will want the job,he is a shit manager at national level but he's decent at club level imo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on February 19, 2009, 12:07:57 AM
Former Tottenham manager Juande Ramos, who is now caretaker manager at Real Madrid, says he has been offered a return to the Premier League and is considering taking the job. He has been linked with Newcastle. (Daily Mirror)


good luck with that !

Haven't Real won 8 straight games under him, I think Ramos probably isn't that bad of a manager but he lost the Spurs players at some point, maybe cos his English was not the best.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 19, 2009, 12:52:33 PM
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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 24, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
http://www.play.com/Clothing/T-Shirts/4-/8826206/Middlesbrough-A-Breath-Of-Fresh-Air/Product.html

Brilliant! Might have to get one of those for my flatmate!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 24, 2009, 09:01:58 PM
Dubai Trip

Day 1

Well Iset off for Dubai on thursday lunchtime for an afternoon flight from Leeds to Heathrow (which you wont be able to do from March, nightmare). Anyway, not a great start as my flatmate's car had a completely flat tyre. No problem, it'll only take 2 minutes to change, you'd think! an hour later we gave up! I eventually made it to LBA and down to LHR where I got to enjoy the delights of T5. Through various hotel stays and complaining I manmaged to amass enough airmiles to get myself business class return with BA, and so I spent a good few hours with free food and drink before departure. It was an overnight flight so the flat bed got used for a few hours, the first time I have slept on a plane!

4 hour wander on the Firday morning (which it was when I arrived). I did all the really old town stuff as I was staying up thast way fro night one (this time on hotel reward points!), pretty mazing to see loads of goods just stacked next to these boats, LG fridges etc, there were no flat screen tv's though. No one was even watching over all this stuff, I guess that the punishment of having hands chopped off etc is quite effective. We should try it.

I did manage to break the law within two steps of being outsdie the airport. It only cost me about 6 quid for my naivity. I mean if someone asks you iof you want a taxi, when you want a taxi you say yes dont you, especially after only a couple of hours sleep in long space of time! Anyway he charged me 70dhs (about 14 quid) from airport to hotel. When I gave him 100 and said just give me 10 back he gave me 20, which made me think. I asked at reception when checking in, how much I should have paid from airport to there... she said 30 to 35dhs! Nice. Read my lonely planet guide to find that people just pose as taxi drivers, its illegal to use them and they will over charge! Still, not a bad lesson for about 6 quid.

Whilst business class flight was good, definately the way to fly but not sure its worth the 4x mark up on economy unless a really long flight. I had 3 hours of pretty good sleep though. They kept hassling me to drink more champaign and the food on the menu was way too fancy! I'm just a man with simple tastes!

I retired mid afternoon for an hours sleep, not sure whether that was fitting in with the locals or just the lack of sleep the night before! I got up and headed out in search of food. To be fair you dont have to walk far anywhere in Dubai without having a choice of at least 10 different types of food! After my overpriced food in Deria I wandered back to the hotel. It was at this point that I was approached by an eastern lady (further east than Dubai) who said 'you want sex?'. I said, 'sorry', she repeated it. Now there was a brief second where I considered if it was a survey, then another which thought she had obviosuly taken a real liking to my western pastey looks. Then it hit me, she would be offering it in return for payment!! Being aware of Dubai's strict reputation I was shocked, but that was soon replaced by fear of having my nuts cut off before having any children if I was seen talking or near this woman. I think I could have challenged Usain Bolt for those first few strides away!

Reaching my bed (alone) that night was very welcome after a long trip!


Day 2

I was moving to a hotel down by the Palm for the second and third nights. I cleverly decided to use the big bus company tour as my transport, and get to see a bit more of the city. 40 quid but probably worth it. On the map one of the stops on their blue route looked quite close to my hotel, so I got off with my 100 litre rucksack and began trecking south in the midday sun. After about 40 minutes of having palaces on my right hand side, and a motorway on my left, I decided to flag a taxi to take me there! Obviously it was right round the corner from where I was, I was a little upset that I had given in so easily, though my arms had started to go a little red!!

Onvce checked in, and negociated a late departure on the Monday, I droped my bag and headed back to the bus stop (I got a taxi therethis time, and after finding it cost 15dhs (3 quid!) I decided that was a good choice! the tour took in all the main things to see and got me back to my hotel early eveing.

The great thing about Dubai (okay so this is probably pretty low on most peoples list!) is that they have more PL games on than we do. So on Saturday nigth I headed to the Dhow and Ancor in the Jumeriah Beach Hotel to watch 2.5 games! I asked for a pint of Carling, and the kind barman informed me that was 35dirhams, but Kronenberg was 'only' 25 (5 quid), hmmm, 1664 then please!

Again, reaching my bed that night was a welcome time!


Day 3

I woke up for the free breakfast and headed to Wild Wadi waterpark. At 40 quid it is overpriced, and if you have ever been to a florida waterpark then prepare to be disappointed if you expect the samre from this. Id did 'all' the rides first thing, before it got busy, then I spent the rest of the day on the decking overlooking the park, the beach and the burj al arab. It was mid afternoon when I noticed a group of men in suits walkign alone the private footpath of the jumeriah beach hotel that ran alongside the waterpark. After a double take it is clear than one of these men is none other than David Hasselhoff!! I really wanted to just grab for the camera but my pride got the better of me so didnt!

On the evening I headed back to the Dhow and Ancor (I know, how englidh of me!) this time to take in the Newcastle Everton game. I thought we were pretty comfortable, even with ten men. would have taken a poitn before the game, and especially after the sending off, but when a game goes like that (no cahill, arteta off early) it was there to be won. I had a few pints that night, and was conscious that I didnt want to look drunk, so slipped into a taxi to take me back to my bed!


Day 4

I had managed not to burn during the water park day, though it had been a little overcast. This day was however a pearler, not a cloud in the sky,a nd judging my the redness on my left shoulder and my back, it was a real hot one! I really must work on being able to reach the whole of my back - having said that even where cream had ben applied I had burnt!

I had got myself a late check out of 4pm but wasnt due to fly until 2.30am the next morning. I rather naively thought that once I had check i n online I'd be able to just bag drop and go to the lounge like you can at heathrow. When I arrived at the airport 6 hours before the flight I found out I couldnt! Two other people had made the same mistake. 3 hours ona  marble floor before check in opened was a good lesson to learn! Anyway I managed to pick up a wifi connection so sat catching up with some blonde threads, revieiwing virtually everyones facebook page that I am friends with. I defiantely took advantage of the lounge was I was checked in, some rather nice strange russian vodka with fresh orange. I have never been drunk for a flight before, but that is definately what I was for this!

My budget had been going well all holiday (encouraging for a qualified accountant, if not rare!) and as I headed from the lounge to the gate I decided to spend my last 103 dirhams. Luckily that was the exact price of a litre of vodka, a litre of Jagermeister and a pack of extra gum!

Day 5

Flight back was good, another 4 hours of sleep was welcomed. It was only when collecting my bags, and seeing the dozen or so customs people in T5 that I realised I was perhaps over the limit for my alcohol purchases. I didnt declare. I feel bad, but the student loan company are taking far more interest off me than the actual rate of inflation so they get money off me that they shouldnt that way!!

My flight on to Leeds wasnt for 3 hours so I took advantage of the arrivals lounge, more free food, this time probably the best, a full english breakfast buffet. Absolute bonus, espcually after more food that was fancier than it needed to be on the plane!

I finally made it home at midday today, about 22 hours after I left my hotel!


So, all in all a very good trip, about the right length of time for what I wanted it for, and plenty of added value from points and airmiles etc. People alway talk about Dubaio being really expensive, but I think when they say that they are comapring it to Spain, or the US before the recent exchange loss. I found most things about the same price as here. Obiosuly the alchol is more expensive, an if you like heavy drinking on holiday then Dubai probably isnt the place unless you dont mind shelling out for it. from what I heard from a guy at the aiport I had been prett yfortunate with my 5 pound pint, though other drinks like wine seem to take the biggest hit. Taxi's (the proper ones!) are really cheap, and remove the need to hire a car. The metro system is supposed to open later this year so that may make getting around even easier. The clothes prices were a bit of a job in the main - clothes and alchol are the two biggies. Accomodation is also quite 'expensive' but then I guess it is actually probably on a par with London and other capial cities.

I dont quite get Dubai, I dont really understand where all the money is coming from, or how long it is going to keep coming. although they make lots of noises about not being effected by the credit crunch I really can see Dubai turning into a big big mess in the not too distant furture, there is so much development going on I cant see where the demand can come from in order to fill it all. I have thought about moving out there for work, and while I found it to be a really nice place, with so many different areas to explore, I dont think I could live out there - the heat for one, it was okay at this time of year, but 40 odd in summer, no thank you!

If its still going dtrong in 5 years I'll go back and see it all finished (or see the bits that are going now finished). The observation deck in the Burj Dubai will be worth the trip alone I suspect.

Now the collection of airmiels starts for a trip to Oz!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on February 24, 2009, 09:13:32 PM
Some awful typo's in there rereading it... its been a long day!


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Post by: cdw1111 on February 25, 2009, 01:07:08 AM
Nice trip report,btw Dubia has more hookers than the Vegas strip.I also think it will go tits up over there,can imagine it's on a terrorists hitlist as we speak.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on March 01, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
What complete and utter shite. I swear you could throw 11 random players from League two and they would perform better than we did today. We need two of the CM back asap. Something up top. Then we really need to show some heart.

After the weekends other results and todays performance, I am more worried than ever. Houghton and Calderwood can not seem to make even the most basic decisions.


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Post by: Nem on March 21, 2009, 07:02:50 PM
going darn


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on March 21, 2009, 07:17:43 PM
Sigh, all the things that ive seen tonight are the same as the things i saw when Leeds went down from the Prem.

Definetly fear the worst now.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on March 21, 2009, 07:48:20 PM
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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on March 22, 2009, 11:58:41 AM
I cant decided if I have just fully accepted that we are going down, and am not that bothered, or that I have seen enough in our last two home games to believe that we have enough to get the points that should keep us up by beating Portsmouth, Fulham and Boro. At the end of the day I'd sooner have got more than 0 points from the games against Man U and Arsenal but we have shown in both those games that we do have quality, we can rattle these teams and we can keep them quiet. Its a shame we cant do it for 90 minutes but we dont have to play teams that can play football like them every week.

There is no denying we outplayed Arsenal for the first 45 minutes last night. Okay so there were chances at both ends but we stopped them playing their football and we always looked dangerous in possesion. There was really only one key moment in the first half, losing Bassong. The whole back four suffer without his rteassuring pace and although I thought Taylor had one of his better games he is still a liability and collicini looks so much weaker when they are together too. I hope Bassong can be back fit for Stoke.

Out of the three home games v Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea this was the one targeted for a point but I dont think anyone was counting on anything from them in their calculations of if we are staying up or not. Stoke away is without doubt the biggest game we have played in over a decade, and ultimately could prove to be the biggest ever.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: crown on March 31, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
Shearer going to take over

SSN Now


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on March 31, 2009, 11:24:02 PM
 BBC Sport understands that Alan Shearer will be appointed as Newcastle manager until the end of the season.

Magpies legend Shearer, 38, has been continually linked with a return to the club and admitted in September 2008 he would like to be manager.

Chris Hughton is currently in caretaker charge at St James' Park as interim manager Joe Kinnear recovers from a triple heart bypass.

Shearer rejected an invitation to join Newcastle as a coach last November.


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Post by: TheChipPrince on March 31, 2009, 11:59:13 PM
SHEARER LOL


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Pelham Boy on April 01, 2009, 12:11:34 AM
SHEARER LOL


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Post by: mondatoo on April 01, 2009, 12:11:58 AM
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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on April 01, 2009, 12:17:15 AM
surely they shouldn't have announced this until after midnight


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Karabiner on April 01, 2009, 12:20:40 AM
surely they shouldn't have announced this until after midnight

April  ;shark;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 01, 2009, 02:17:19 AM
Even I'm LOL-ing at my club now. :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Alverton on April 01, 2009, 03:16:09 AM
i thought it was april fools when it was first announced.

Why now?

Maybe he knows this is the only time he'll manage in the premiership, (as no-one else will hire him), and the toon will be playing at Doncaster next season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 06:38:44 AM
Chris Hughton and Calderwood probably wouldn't keep is up and are under too much pressure. We have someone that commands respect from all at NUFC (despite not having managed before), most importantly the players. I think the two coaches have struggled with some of senior players thinking they know better.

So before you laugh have a think. Is it better than what we currently have? Yes. Who else would have come and taken on the challenge? No one.

I'm gutted I can't go on Saturday now! I know that!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 12:47:05 PM
Jesus, I'm sick of hearing about Newcastle today. Had to drive for a couple of hours, talksport is standard but so much tripe I had to turn it over. Get back for lunch as it's still on re sky sports ticker even though they have no more details than 12 hours ago.

Iain Dowie ftw too obviously.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on April 01, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
Iain Dowie ftw too obviously.

now that has to be an april fool if the shearer bit isn't

wtf are newcastle thinking

when he came to charlton no manager had been sacked at the valley in the previous 25 years, we were a very comfortable mid table premiership team being tipped to challenge for europe and he was given the largest transfer budget any manager at the club had ever seen. it was about as safe a job as you could get in the prem yet inside 15 games he destroyed the club and was out the door

then an ok spell at coventry before going to qpr and again lasting exactly 15 games before they realised how useless he is

I just can't see what in his recent record makes any club think he's going to be a good appointment


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on April 01, 2009, 01:24:43 PM
Harsh on his Charlton regime as they were sinking ship for whoever came in.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on April 01, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
Harsh on his Charlton regime as they were sinking ship for whoever came in.

I can't agree with that. noone tipped charlton for relegation that season. he took the best squad ever at the club, combined it with the biggest transfer budget ever and somehow ended up with one of the worst teams ever. he's slightly fortunate that he was followed by an even worse manager who made him look good


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on April 01, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Never have I been so interested in the comings and goings of Newcastle United. I have met many wonderful people from the city of Newcastle but the fact remains that I had a tooth punched out walking back to the station after a match and that has jaundiced me against the football club.

Now when Keegan was appointed manager (this latest time) I felt it was only a matter of time before the serial walker went and did it again. If he did then the question I asked myself is "who would want to work for Ashley?". Logical answer of course is nobody. I took sixteen to one and have sat back to watch to see if this is a good investment or not. I have to say I am not a big fan of Shearer he did of course attempt GBH on the pitch against a Leicester City player if my memory serves oh and then he told the FA if he got a ban he wouldn't play for England again.

I feel they might deserve each other..........


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DaveShoelace on April 01, 2009, 02:56:24 PM
I love Shearer and I really want him to be a good manager, I just hope he doesnt get blamed if the Toon go down because he is starting his mangerial career in the worst job in football. Im sure the fans and even the board would get behind him for next season if they did go down. If they stay up, what a buzz there will all of sudden be about the club.

I think Newcastle have probably had the most interesting and comical season ever experienced by a professional football team this season. Maybe in 20 years time we will see a 'The damned toon' movie coming out.



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Post by: TightEnd on April 01, 2009, 03:02:28 PM
I love Shearer and I really want him to be a good manager



? ugh

I suppose he just polarises opinions

I can't stand him (leceister city history to the fore)




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Pelham Boy on April 01, 2009, 03:12:24 PM
I love Shearer and I really want him to be a good manager, I just hope he doesnt get blamed if the Toon go down because he is starting his mangerial career in the worst job in football. Im sure the fans and even the board would get behind him for next season if they did go down. If they stay up, what a buzz there will all of sudden be about the club.

I think Newcastle have probably had the most interesting and comical season ever experienced by a professional football team this season. Maybe in 20 years time we will see a 'The damned toon' movie coming out.



He wont get the blame if they go down. Which is probably why he has taken the job. If they stay up he's a hero,if they go down he will say it was too late for him to do anything.


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Post by: TheChipPrince on April 01, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
At least he knows he'll probably have to kill someone before he gets a touchline ban...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 06:25:57 PM
BBC 1 news in the news section. WTF.

England 6-0 tonight would be nice to take some focus off.

Still no announcement which means one of two things. Its all sorted and they dont want to announce on April 1st! Or, there are some pretty serious snagging issues, perhaps between Shearer and the structure that he would have to work to.

I cant under any circumstances see this as a bad thing. He is the right man at the right club. All managers start somewhere.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 01, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
Desperate times on the toon ....

You are heading for relegation, you need someone with experience and a track record of getting the best out of players and instilling some belief and confidence in them .... who ya gonna call ??


Oh yeah, some bloke who has no management experience, no personality and no clue.


Quite how anyone can honestly believe that this is the best thing for the club is beyond me tbh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on April 01, 2009, 06:38:51 PM


I cant under any circumstances see this as a bad thing. He is the right man at the right club. All managers start somewhere.

usually in League 3, Non League or as an assistant to a good one (with the odd exception obv, but good exceptions are rare)

None of these apply here

He'll cause a feelgood factor amongst fans which is of course half the battle, but I remain to be convinced he'll make a difference to them on the pitch


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 06:41:54 PM
Desperate times on the toon ....

You are heading for relegation, you need someone with experience and a track record of getting the best out of players and instilling some belief and confidence in them .... who ya gonna call ??


Oh yeah, some bloke who has no management experience, no personality and no clue.


Quite how anyone can honestly believe that this is the best thing for the club is beyond me tbh.

There are 8 games left!! there simply isnt enought time to fufil any of that. Add to the fact that most, if not all, good amanagers already have jobs, I guess that we dont have time or cash avilable to buy them out of their contracts. We need someone who knows the club and will not need time to make an impact. Literally cant think of any other viable canidate. the arguement that maybe this should have been done weeks ago is acceptable but completely worthless.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 06:44:53 PM


I cant under any circumstances see this as a bad thing. He is the right man at the right club. All managers start somewhere.

usually in League 3, Non League or as an assistant to a good one (with the odd exception obv, but good exceptions are rare)

None of these apply here

He'll cause a feelgood factor amongst fans which is of course half the battle, but I remain to be convinced he'll make a difference to them on the pitch

I dont really agree with this. How many good v bad exceptions are there? Ignore the chunk of 'usual routes', ie Paul Inces! Out of the premeir league clubs I can think of two right off the top of my head that went straight in at the deep end, and are still there.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on April 01, 2009, 06:49:39 PM
Southgate is one right? not a great example

Zola I'll give you

the other 17 are experienced





Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 07:16:13 PM
Southgate is one right? not a great example

Zola I'll give you

the other 17 are experienced





Southgate has made one mistake at Boro, blowing all his 12m budget on Alves. To be fair, the resources they have there I think he has done well to keep them up. He has the ability to compete with the top managers, shown by one of the best records against the top 4 over the past couple of years. He has also gone from no experience to being one of the longest serving in the league!

Zola had a little bit with Italy U21s (Shearer has had a little bit under Glenn Roeder (tongue is stuck in cheek a little!))

Where did Mark Hughes start? top level of international football?

I can't think of a recent top level starter who failed actually? Roy Keane did okay ish too, absolutely no experience.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 01, 2009, 08:03:26 PM
I don't think Klinsman had much experience either.
Good luck anyway. I'd love Wednesday to be playing Newcastle again but prefer it to be in the premiership.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 08:06:57 PM
I don't think Klinsman had much experience either.
Good luck anyway. I'd love Wednesday to be playing Newcastle again but prefer it to be in the premiership.

One of my top ten favourite Newcastle games. SJP, 93/94 I think. 4-2. Alex mathie scored a cracking half volley lob after sinton and waddle had done use twice to put you 2-1 up!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 01, 2009, 10:16:20 PM
Shearer in, Wise out. Handy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: matt674 on April 01, 2009, 10:24:08 PM
Harsh on his Charlton regime as they were sinking ship for whoever came in.

I can't agree with that. noone tipped charlton for relegation that season. he took the best squad ever at the club, combined it with the biggest transfer budget ever and somehow ended up with one of the worst teams ever. he's slightly fortunate that he was followed by two even worse managers who made him look good

FYP :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on April 02, 2009, 04:54:51 PM
had to laugh when within a minute of starting today's press conference shearer had made a comment about dowie being ugly


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on April 02, 2009, 09:24:58 PM
Sven (just sacked) for the Toon in the summer.  :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 04, 2009, 05:20:35 PM
tbf, you were never likely to get anything from todays game even if you had Jesus Christ as manager (although i think some of your fans think you have got JC in ;) )

With Stoke winning and pompey getting a point ... Its looking fkin bleak.


Personally I would rather see Sunderland go than your mob ... good luck.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 04, 2009, 07:38:05 PM
Losing today was already built in to most people's predictions. A few of the teams around us have got results that I didnt think they would, not least Blackburn. Lets hope Sunderland take a few beatings over the next few weeks. Stoke next week is massive and I have to say I just cant see us getting anything. Stoke play well at home, we just dont play well (or at least long enough). With out defence Delap and co will be licking their lips for set pieces.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on April 05, 2009, 08:43:34 AM
Just watched Match of the Day, that curly haired defender was shockingly bad.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Sack it off on April 05, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
Collocini's only good for teams doing well. He don't give a shit for clubs on their way down


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 13, 2009, 04:39:48 PM
Losing today was already built in to most people's predictions. A few of the teams around us have got results that I didn't think they would, not least Blackburn. Lets hope Sunderland take a few beatings over the next few weeks. Stoke next week is massive and I have to say I just cant see us getting anything. Stoke play well at home, we just don't play well (or at least long enough). With out defence Delap and co will be licking their lips for set pieces.

Well I didn't see anything coming on Saturday but Andy Carroll has found an absolute belter of a header to give us some form of fighting chance. I was adamant that we needed three points to survive, so having got only 1 we are gone... or are we! A lot of the teams down there play each other in the next couple of weeks. A west Brom win, a few draws and it may still all be open. I think we may need to get two points from the away games at Tottenham, Liverppol and Villa. The best opportunity there would surely be Villa away on the last day of the season if they have nothing to play for, as looks like will be the case.

Of course that is built on the hope that we can beat Portsmouth, Fulham and Boro at home, which we have absolutely no right to assume at all.

In other news I have been offered a job in London, for my dream employers, so I am having to weigh up the pro's and con's of making the move even further south. I always swore I wouldnt go there. Its a hell of a long way home from there....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Sack it off on April 15, 2009, 01:56:41 AM
Go to london. Too many opportunities to refuse in that city


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 15, 2009, 04:52:31 PM
London's shite don't do it

Seriously though good luck whatever you choose to do and congrats on the offer


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 15, 2009, 05:05:23 PM
good luck whatever you choose to do and congrats on the offer


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 15, 2009, 08:38:02 PM
Thanks for the luck etc. They have basically offered me a package that is of the same value as I currently earn... the only difference now is that I have to cut my standard of living by the cost difference between Leeds and London... Tricky one now!

If Newcastle win on Sunday I'll take it!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 15, 2009, 08:50:08 PM
Thanks for the luck etc. They have basically offered me a package that is of the same value as I currently earn... the only difference now is that I have to cut my standard of living by the cost difference between Leeds and London... Tricky one now!

If Newcastle win on Sunday I'll take it!

Wow, no brainer mate, stay there !!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 15, 2009, 08:54:56 PM
Thanks for the luck etc. They have basically offered me a package that is of the same value as I currently earn... the only difference now is that I have to cut my standard of living by the cost difference between Leeds and London... Tricky one now!

If Newcastle win on Sunday I'll take it!

Wow, no brainer mate, stay there !!

Is that from the first para or the second?! Its one of only two company's that I would leave my present employer for, which is why there is the decision to be made.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 15, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
If you are going to have to live in London on the same dosh as you are getting up there, you would be radio rental to move ... renting a bedsit will cost you the same as you would pay up there for a house !!


Seriously, if the wedge is the same, stay put and wait for a better package .


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Jim-D on April 15, 2009, 08:59:52 PM
Unless there is scope for some tasty future promotions?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 15, 2009, 09:15:45 PM
If you are going to have to live in London on the same dosh as you are getting up there, you would be radio rental to move ... renting a bedsit will cost you the same as you would pay up there for a house !!


Seriously, if the wedge is the same, stay put and wait for a better package .

For the rent I pay for this flat I can still get a decent enough pad down there, not as big or across the road from work like this one, but nice all the same. Its more money down there but no car included. Pension isnt as good either, but I'm 26 and might not get to becoming a pensioner anyway!!

Going down next week to have a look about. The feel of the place and transport links etc might be key. There does seem to be decent opportunity for promotion, and a bonus,  if I put the graft in. If I like the job as much as I hope I will then I wont mind doing that too much. See out the visit pans out I guess.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Jim-D on April 15, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
All the very best in what ever you decide pal


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 15, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
All the very best in what ever you decide pal

ty


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on April 15, 2009, 09:48:55 PM
Whats the job m8?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 16, 2009, 08:29:00 PM
Whats the job m8?

Internal Audit, same as I do now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_audit


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 17, 2009, 09:47:40 PM
Used to be called time and motion men ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Gamblor21 on April 18, 2009, 12:25:18 PM
Whats the job m8?

Internal Audit, same as I do now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_audit


I don't think wikipedia explains the rock n roll lifestyle of internal auditors!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Blatch on April 18, 2009, 03:21:01 PM
Whats the job m8?

Internal Audit, same as I do now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_audit


Plenty of green biro's needed then ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 18, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
Massive goal for Sunderland, can they hold ??


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 18, 2009, 07:06:09 PM
Whats the job m8?

Internal Audit, same as I do now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_audit


I don't think wikipedia explains the rock n roll lifestyle of internal auditors!

We like to keep that part on the low, otherwise everyone will want to get in on it!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 18, 2009, 07:10:23 PM
Massive goal for Sunderland, can they hold ??

Not great results for us at all. Looks like our only outs are Blackburn and Hull, having said that, we only need one of them (and boro) to not get anymore points and we should be okay.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 18, 2009, 07:15:14 PM
We will probs gift you 3 points tomorrow :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 18, 2009, 08:08:07 PM
We will probs gift you 3 points tomorrow :)

Just like the last two seasons would be nice! Really cant see it though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on April 19, 2009, 01:28:54 AM
We will probs gift you 3 points tomorrow :)

Just like the last two seasons would be nice! Really cant see it though.

im going so plz 3 points.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 19, 2009, 01:05:34 PM
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Newcastle United will be playing 3-5- fucking 2....

One time. (plus another three for Mid may).


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Post by: jizzemm on April 19, 2009, 01:27:33 PM
GL today, for some reason I like the toon and hope they stay up, but I fear the worst


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Post by: Josedinho on April 19, 2009, 01:30:06 PM
GL today, for some reason I like the toon and hope they stay up, but I fear the worst


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Post by: Matt50 on April 19, 2009, 01:35:12 PM
I think there will be goals today - hope Newcastle can nick it


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Post by: Colchester Kev on April 19, 2009, 01:58:49 PM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 19, 2009, 02:18:05 PM
As expected. We're completely blowing out our arses.

Why is Nicky Butt playing with an ancor tied round his waist? Nolan used to be able to play football for Bolton. Michael who. FML.

Andy Gray classic, 'I dont think Taylor is as quick as Lennon'. Sherlock Holmes esq.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 19, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
We haven't let you have a kick all game, but 1-0 is never enough !!

We need a second and quick.


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Post by: Colchester Kev on April 19, 2009, 02:56:13 PM
LOL Shearer has his entire strike force on the pitch ... gonna be a good last half hour.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on April 19, 2009, 04:35:26 PM
Newcastle were terrible today. Absolutely shocking. I feel for ya Rooky, but the writing is on the wall imo.


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Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2009, 07:07:27 PM
Newcastle were terrible today. Absolutely shocking. I feel for ya Rooky, but the writing is on the wall imo.

Erm last half hour u were shitting it ffs waste of time even posting this we were shit but the last half hour we bossed the game, we are down, excellent for the premier league imo,blah de blah no divine right and all that shit obviously its better to have a club like wigan who have a half empty ground no matter how well they do or a team like villa who also have a half emtpy ground unless there top 6 and booo players like agbonlahor who is 20 an gives his all every game then have a club like newcastle in the league coz everyone outside the north east believes all the shit u read in the papers its so strange that everyone knows most of the shit in the daily rags is bs but when it comes to newcastle fans it's all 100% true


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on April 19, 2009, 07:33:20 PM
Newcastle were terrible today. Absolutely shocking. I feel for ya Rooky, but the writing is on the wall imo.

Erm last half hour u were shitting it ffs waste of time even posting this we were shit but the last half hour we bossed the game, we are down, excellent for the premier league imo,blah de blah no divine right and all that shit obviously its better to have a club like wigan who have a half empty ground no matter how well they do or a team like villa who also have a half emtpy ground unless there top 6 and booo players like agbonlahor who is 20 an gives his all every game then have a club like newcastle in the league coz everyone outside the north east believes all the shit u read in the papers its so strange that everyone knows most of the shit in the daily rags is bs but when it comes to newcastle fans it's all 100% true

Today you played like a team who are coasting mid table with nothing to play for. The first half you had a few corners and we chased you back and you past it back to your lol keeper. Watching it live is different to watching it on t'tv, but although you improved in the 2nd half, your team's performance today simply wasn't good enough.

I will be happy if your team went down as with the correct management you are obviously a rival to my team. Of course I don't want teams like Wigan, Fulham and co in the league, but at least they fought for their survival.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 19, 2009, 08:31:18 PM
I'd agree with most of that Nem but preaching on the differences between live and tv football isn't really needed to either of us two long term sufferers!! The ability for most of our team to look like they just dont give a shit really pisses me off.

I'd lump Barton and Guthrie in our CM. Martins has to play, pos give viduka a start. Even I have lost faith in MO. I really don't see the point him being in the team as one of two up top, purely to then drop into midfield and make 10 yard passes.

Taylor (Ryan) and Nolan have had no impact which shows what I know about football as I thought they were top signings for our situation in January.

I think 9 points will be enough to stay up, but god knows why anyone would believe we have more than a 25% chance of getting them from the home games.

Hull play Man U on the last day of the season, we play villa. The relative importance of those games for the opposition could be absolutely key. I'll be an arsenal fan in the CL then!   


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 19, 2009, 08:34:04 PM
WTF has happened to Alan Smith ... that boy had bags of talent and potential, where did it go ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2009, 08:36:23 PM
PMSL if nem was actually trying to have ago at me for not being at the game when he says the other day "i'm actually going on sunday" prob ur biggest joke of a comment ever if that was ur point LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 19, 2009, 08:37:18 PM
The game against Pompey is the biggest game you will have played in years, win it and your players will get some belief and confidence to fight and escape ... lose it or draw it and you are fucked, i really think it is that cut and dry tbh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 19, 2009, 08:39:31 PM
WTF has happened to Alan Smith ... that boy had bags of talent and potential, where did it go ?

Not sure he ever did. Didn't have more than Bridges as I saw it, and where is he these days?! Smith is too stupid to be able to stop his short fuse from getting in the way of showing the little talent he does have. Having said that I think he'd/he'll be alright in the championship.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 19, 2009, 08:42:44 PM
The game against Pompey is the biggest game you will have played in years, win it and your players will get some belief and confidence to fight and escape ... lose it or draw it and you are fucked, i really think it is that cut and dry tbh.

Stoke game was the biggest for years and I think each game from now until the end of the season will keep topping the last. Until we can't survive! We will be in the bottom three until at least the second last game of the season however things go. Not sure the player will cope with that.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2009, 08:56:06 PM
As rooky said stoke game was the one,we cud win at pompey and still most likely go down i think we fkd now but obv will be there supporting my team for the last 3 home games as well as villa coz why wudn't a


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on April 19, 2009, 09:11:49 PM
Smith is just shit imo kev. Dont think he ever had ability that made him a top class player, like Chris i think he'lll do well in the championship.

Bridges, now there's a player who's just been unlucky with injuries.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on April 19, 2009, 09:41:42 PM
WTF has happened to Alan Smith ... that boy had bags of talent and potential, where did it go ?

always vastly overrated imo, Goals to game ratio has been terrible through out his career.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
I'm guna bite and ask Nem WTF was ur point about the tv and live BS i just want to clarify


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on April 19, 2009, 10:21:40 PM
Just watching Gazza on MOTD 2, he looks terrible. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on April 19, 2009, 10:22:06 PM
Smith is just shit imo kev. Dont think he ever had ability that made him a top class player, like Chris i think he'lll do well in the championship.

Bridges, now there's a player who's just been unlucky with injuries.

Smith was quality before he did his leg in, never prolific but good enough to excel in the good leeds team and enough for fergie to buy him. Shame on the injury


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on April 19, 2009, 10:25:09 PM
Smith was never as good as Robbie Keane or Viduka, or even Michael Bridges imo.

What you all say is true.


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Post by: Josedinho on April 19, 2009, 11:02:13 PM
Just watching Gazza on MOTD 2, he looks terrible. 
Not nice to see him like that but i'm glad the football community seem to be trying to help him rather than just watch his demise.

I have looked at the fixtures and i think Newcastle will stay up. My prediction is 7 points will be enough - a win v boro and 4 points from pompey and fulham. The players have to believe it's not over though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on April 19, 2009, 11:58:30 PM
PMSL if nem was actually trying to have ago at me for not being at the game when he says the other day "i'm actually going on sunday" prob ur biggest joke of a comment ever if that was ur point LOLOLOLOLOLOL

wat? :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on April 20, 2009, 12:00:41 AM
I'm guna bite and ask Nem WTF was ur point about the tv and live BS i just want to clarify

I sit in the lower west stand, have poor vision of the pitch and I usually see more of the game when I watch it on tv.



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Post by: Acidmouse on April 20, 2009, 11:22:26 AM
lol newcastle and leeds article


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0420/1224245022587.html


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Post by: Rod Paradise on April 20, 2009, 11:37:52 AM
lol newcastle and leeds article


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2009/0420/1224245022587.html

Aye, that was quite well done.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 20, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
twas a good read.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 20, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
PMSL if nem was actually trying to have ago at me for not being at the game when he says the other day "i'm actually going on sunday" prob ur biggest joke of a comment ever if that was ur point LOLOLOLOLOLOL

wat? :D

I blame rooky


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on April 23, 2009, 12:38:56 AM
My m8 whos a boro fan text me this:
To the tune of Downtown by petula clark (sing it aloud, it makes sense)


When your a mag and keegan fcuks off again you know whats coming, Doon Toon

When youve got Ashley, all his debt and his worries things look bleak at best, Doon Toon

Just listen to the traffic on the way to Bristol City, you'll have to sell old Mickey so your squad is looking shitty.....
good times ahead playing in the second tier, you can forget about Europe for many a year, cos you're Doon Toon,
Fcukin deserved aswell, Doon Toon, look at how far you've fell, Doon Toon


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: jizzemm on April 23, 2009, 12:53:10 AM
My m8 whos a boro fan text me this:
To the tune of Downtown by petula clark (sing it aloud, it makes sense)


When your a mag and keegan fcuks off again you know whats coming, Doon Toon

When youve got Ashley, all his debt and his worries things look bleak at best, Doon Toon

Just listen to the traffic on the way to Bristol City, you'll have to sell old Mickey so your squad is looking shitty.....
good times ahead playing in the second tier, you can forget about Europe for many a year, cos you're Doon Toon,
Fcukin deserved aswell, Doon Toon, look at how far you've fell, Doon Toon


lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 23, 2009, 01:06:16 AM
Will suck for everyone next season when they can't live on cloud cuckoo land and make accusations about newcastle fans becuse they read a southern newspaper, iwwil to get played so hard to make the mugs that print such utter bollox money wp lol


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Post by: Colchester Kev on April 23, 2009, 01:08:33 AM
Will suck for everyone next season when they can't live on cloud cuckoo land and make accusations about newcastle fans becuse they read a southern newspaper, iwwil to get played so hard to make the mugs that print such utter bollox money wp lol


LOL no problem, Wolves and Brum are coming up ... there will be more than enough to laugh at there .... I am quite looking forward to Mick Mcarthy and his amazing book of post match interviews .


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 23, 2009, 01:59:08 AM
There's a great deal of schadenfreude in this thread.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 23, 2009, 02:01:34 AM
There's a great deal of schadenfreude in this thread.


Thats what being a football fan is ALL about though.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 23, 2009, 02:02:32 AM
that was also a thinly veiled "I knew what schadenfreude meant without googling" brag post by the way.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on April 23, 2009, 03:08:19 AM
There's a great deal of schadenfreude in this thread.

WTF


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on April 23, 2009, 11:37:40 PM
There's a great deal of schadenfreude in this thread.

WTF


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 26, 2009, 05:16:28 PM
Come on wigan!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 26, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
FML. That must have a foul or offside.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on April 26, 2009, 08:21:01 PM
And Monday night looms large on the horizon......but Pompey are so bad even I think it is inconceivable that the Toon can lose this one........or is the pressure getting to Shearer already.....doesn't listen to the pundits indeed ;popcorn;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 26, 2009, 08:56:01 PM
We cant defend a high ball, they have a giraffe playing up front.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on April 27, 2009, 08:21:27 AM
We cant defend a high ball, they have a giraffe playing up front.

Not won away from home since Novemeber 8th................and like most giraffes so awkward cant even dance the robot


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 27, 2009, 10:24:36 PM
Rooky, mate ... I feel for you.

You were fkin woeful tonight, and if Glenn Johnson could hit a cows arse with a banjo, you would be even further in the shit.


Your only hope is to fluke 3 points and hope Hull dont pick up another point and get thumped a few times to keep you up on goal difference.

I would rather see the barcodes in the prem than Hull, so fingers crossed for ya.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 27, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
Thought it'd be a draw tonight. Still waiting for the odds to shorten before i start laying toon to be relegated.
Owen and Martins wasted good chances tonight. Smith looks up for the fight.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on April 27, 2009, 11:52:32 PM
Feel for u chris


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 28, 2009, 12:01:30 AM
18 hour day, most of which on the road, well worth it. Not.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 28, 2009, 12:04:07 AM
Thought it'd be a draw tonight. Still waiting for the odds to shorten before i start laying toon to be relegated.
Owen and Martins wasted good chances tonight. Smith looks up for the fight.

PMSL please tell me this is a wind up wtf ???

BTW we are down now so if u like money get on it although u prob shudve done so while ago

Rooky i also feel for you


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 28, 2009, 10:12:14 PM
I think a defeat last nigth might have been kinder! I dont know where the performances would come from, but if we could get a couple of home results it might be enough! The game against M'boro is obviously a must must win. A draw would probably send us both down. I thought Pompy rightly came thinking a draw would keep them up and when we had the ball they sat back knowing we would struggle to break them down - the benefits of having an organised and hardwroking 11 I guess! they then hit us a few times on the counter.

The M'boro game should be massively open, which scares the bejesus out of me, but I do believe that we have more quality than them - we just could do with showing it on the run in.

For what its worth I thought the selection last night was strange, smith butt and duff as a three really doesnt make sense to me. someone needs to let the world know that a strker that doesnt score goals is not a midfielder, they are just shit strikers! Anyway there was a huge creativity gap last night, Crying out for Jonas... then when he came on he looked awful and put no running in at all. Worrying. Besides, there really is no point in a tactics debate, hard graft and some clinical finishing will be what saves, or not, us from the drop.

I'm in a strange position in that with a move to London I'll be getting to two or three home games next season. There are however more London teams in the PL than Championship I guess. There are for more long suffering NUFc fans than me. All I want is a club to be proud of.

Oh well, I'll be doing miles 38 to 74 on Sunday so I wont have to watch or listen to our regular Anfield beating. I'd love it if we could pull out a 3-4 though, love it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 28, 2009, 11:09:47 PM
Thought it'd be a draw tonight. Still waiting for the odds to shorten before i start laying toon to be relegated.
Owen and Martins wasted good chances tonight. Smith looks up for the fight.
PMSL please tell me this is a wind up wtf ???
I checked BBC sport today and he had 2nd highest player rating of anyone on the pitch. Why did you think it was a joke? Thought he worked hard and looked good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 28, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
Thought it'd be a draw tonight. Still waiting for the odds to shorten before i start laying toon to be relegated.
Owen and Martins wasted good chances tonight. Smith looks up for the fight.
PMSL please tell me this is a wind up wtf ???
I checked BBC sport today and he had 2nd highest player rating of anyone on the pitch. Why did you think it was a joke? Thought he worked hard and looked good.

Coz he's shit


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 28, 2009, 11:18:35 PM
Thought it'd be a draw tonight. Still waiting for the odds to shorten before i start laying toon to be relegated.
Owen and Martins wasted good chances tonight. Smith looks up for the fight.
PMSL please tell me this is a wind up wtf ???
I checked BBC sport today and he had 2nd highest player rating of anyone on the pitch. Why did you think it was a joke? Thought he worked hard and looked good.

To be fair any park player would have been top!

Joey Barton should come in and add a bit more than sweat.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on May 04, 2009, 07:51:22 PM
WP Joey
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koGDdQVreKI


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on May 04, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
WP Joey
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koGDdQVreKI

LOL

Alonso is like a big fking fairy though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 04, 2009, 08:34:13 PM
Whats the difference between Alan Shearer & Newcastle Utd ??

























Alan Shearer will be on Match of day next season ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on May 04, 2009, 08:42:41 PM
 rotflmfao


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: jizzemm on May 04, 2009, 09:23:19 PM
Probably the funniest thing I have ever heard the kop sing yesterday, loved being there, even though the game was dull ish

" Alan shearer, football genius "

" You should have stayed on the telly, stayed on the telly "

and to finish off, the Match of the Day song followed by the Goerdie chants of " Shearer, Shearer "

If anyone knows where I can find it, I would be grateful..


On another note, if they continue to play like that, then I think Boro might even beat them...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Baron on May 04, 2009, 11:04:35 PM
Probably the funniest thing I have ever heard the kop sing yesterday, loved being there, even though the game was dull ish

" Alan shearer, football genius "

" You should have stayed on the telly, stayed on the telly "

and to finish off, the Match of the Day song followed by the Goerdie chants of " Shearer, Shearer "

If anyone knows where I can find it, I would be grateful..


On another note, if they continue to play like that, then I think Boro might even beat them...

Agree with all of that - and a great gesture for the memorial. Best away fans I've seen at Anfield this season although I havent been to all of the games.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on May 05, 2009, 12:15:32 AM
How many players have been sent off this season for fouls on Alonso


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on May 05, 2009, 08:26:20 AM
How many players have been sent off this season for fouls on Alonso

Not enough probably


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pokerfan on May 05, 2009, 09:27:45 AM
How many players have been sent off this season for fouls on Alonso
How many players have 2 footed him by the corner flag? Barton= ;dingdell;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on May 05, 2009, 10:31:22 AM
Well the other results keep going our way,i fully expected a drubbing at Anfield but i still have a glimmer of hope.

16 Sunderland     35 6 3 9 19 22 3 5 9 12 26 -17 35
17 Hull                35 3 5 9 17 33 5 5 8 20 27 -23 34

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18 Newcastle      35 4 7 6 21 27 2 6 10 16 29 -19 31
19 Middlesbrough  35 5 8 5 16 19 2 2 13 9 32 -26 31
20 West Brom     35 6 3 8 23 30 1 4 13 10 34 -31 28

Can we beat the smoggies,sure we can,Fulham's season could be over by the time we play them,6 points and a better goal difference enough?As usual i'm left clutching at straws.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on May 05, 2009, 10:37:40 AM
Please win a game! dont let Hull stay up becasue of some other teams being even worse!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pokerfan on May 05, 2009, 11:31:58 AM
Barton is suspended from Newcastle after a post match bust up with Shearer. [ ]what a hero


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2009, 07:37:02 PM
Joey Barton is clearly not mentally in control. He should be forced into retirement and the insurers should pay out! Before the Portsmouth game, where he was an unused sub, he was doing to one touch team warm up and he was niggling at oba's heel in a way over the top way. I think ova would have been in his rights to lamp him one. Such a waste of talent, we need to take the hit now and give him away for free.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on May 11, 2009, 12:04:42 AM
How big a game for u lot later on tonight?!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on May 11, 2009, 02:22:41 AM
Boro will win tonight. They are a must bet at 4.3+.

I dont want them to, im just pretty sure they will.

GL nonetheless Newc fans.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 11, 2009, 12:50:37 PM
Viduka must score tonight. Script writer wants sacking if he doesn't. I think we'll have to score twice, even against their attack.

We are due though....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on May 11, 2009, 05:53:58 PM
I have gone for the draw, tempted by 0-0 but just stuck with the draw.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 11, 2009, 10:07:04 PM
Grats Rooky, enjoy the 3 points.

I think that will do you tbh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 11, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
Get in!!!!! I still think we might need 3 more points though (maybe 4!). I really really do.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 12, 2009, 01:35:07 AM
Boro will win tonight. They are a must bet at 4.3+.

I dont want them to, im just pretty sure they will.

GL nonetheless Newc fans.

Hope you didn't lose to much,it's strange to see that a fan of a proper football club such as leeds and as it seems a proper fan of football in general would want to see us stay up yet so many want to see us fall i don't understand it,i guess it's because we expect to win the league every year and that p's people off since that sure is true [  ] wp

Best of luck in the playoffs


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 16, 2009, 07:42:40 AM
WTF are the BBC on?! Apparently Newcastle can all but make the great escape today by beating Fulham. Don't
See it working like that at all, unless Bolton pull something out the bag.

Three points would be lovely. Three points for us and Bolton and Villa would be even more gratefully received!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on May 16, 2009, 07:57:19 AM
WTF are the BBC on?! Apparently Newcastle can all but make the great escape today by beating Fulham. Don't
See it working like that at all, unless Bolton pull something out the bag.

Three points would be lovely. Three points for us and Bolton and Villa would be even more gratefully received!

If Newcastle could make sure that they don't stay up until the last day of the season I would be eternally grateful etc, etc.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 16, 2009, 06:58:26 PM
Well I expected to be in the bottom 3 heading to the last day. I hadnt thought we would get so much help from the other teams, which makes it disappointing that we are still there.

I find it hard to be as pissed off with the overpaid lazy b's as I think I should be. Mainly because I still think there is some quality there, but the pressure has sapped a lot of confidence away. A player playing in fear is about as much use as a passport to a Sunderland fan. Perfect example being Jonas Guiterrez for one.

I'll be interested in seeing the disallowed goal again later, not that it makes any difference. I felt that if we had kept 11 men on the pitch there was something there for us. I'm not sure it was a sending off, though it was at the other end. The fact he was 'last man' is completely irrelevant. It looked like the touch was taking him well wide of goal and I think there was enough doubt of it being a clear goal scoring opportunity. Having said that I heard Shearer saying he had no complaints about it and I guess he has seen it again.

We go to Villa with it not being in out hands... though if Pompey can beat Sunderland on Monday we will know that beating Villa sill 99% keep us up and a draw should be good enough.

Today was the last time I will be at SJP for a while. Unless the club hold me to my contractual obligation, then I wont have a season ticket next term. 200+ round trips have been bad enough, I dont think I could cope with 600+! I'll still be trying to get to half a dozen home games and hopefully a similar number of away games if I can get tickets, regardless of what division we end up in.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on May 16, 2009, 11:11:45 PM
Well I expected to be in the bottom 3 heading to the last day. I hadnt thought we would get so much help from the other teams, which makes it disappointing that we are still there.

I find it hard to be as pissed off with the overpaid lazy b's as I think I should be. Mainly because I still think there is some quality there, but the pressure has sapped a lot of confidence away. A player playing in fear is about as much use as a passport to a Sunderland fan. Perfect example being Jonas Guiterrez for one.

I'll be interested in seeing the disallowed goal again later, not that it makes any difference. I felt that if we had kept 11 men on the pitch there was something there for us. I'm not sure it was a sending off, though it was at the other end. The fact he was 'last man' is completely irrelevant. It looked like the touch was taking him well wide of goal and I think there was enough doubt of it being a clear goal scoring opportunity. Having said that I heard Shearer saying he had no complaints about it and I guess he has seen it again.

We go to Villa with it not being in out hands... though if Pompey can beat Sunderland on Monday we will know that beating Villa sill 99% keep us up and a draw should be good enough.

Today was the last time I will be at SJP for a while. Unless the club hold me to my contractual obligation, then I wont have a season ticket next term. 200+ round trips have been bad enough, I dont think I could cope with 600+! I'll still be trying to get to half a dozen home games and hopefully a similar number of away games if I can get tickets, regardless of what division we end up in.

Sir you are a true and loyal supporter and I wish you all the best for the last week of the season. It matters to you.....Respect


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on May 19, 2009, 12:34:31 AM
With Sunderland losing tonight at Pompey;

16 Sunderland 37 6 3 9 19 22 3 6 10 13 29 -19 36
17 Hull 37 3 5 10 18 35 5 6 8 21 28 -24 35

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18 Newcastle 37 5 7 7 24 29 2 6 10 16 29 -18 34
19 Middlesbrough 37 5 9 5 17 20 2 2 14 10 35 -28 32
20 West Brom 37 7 3 9 26 33 1 4 13 10 34 -31 31

Dare i dream of three points at Villa,mackems lose at Chelsea and Hull get a point against Man u?Could life be so good?Am i going mental?


One time please....................................
 
   
   

     

   
   
 

   
   



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 19, 2009, 12:42:04 AM
Hull would need to win if its Sunderland you want down...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on May 19, 2009, 01:02:05 AM
Hull would need to win if its Sunderland you want down...

rubdown,you could have let me dream a little longer lol.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on May 19, 2009, 01:04:20 AM
Hull would need to win if its Sunderland you want down...

rubdown,you could have let me dream a little longer lol.

it's almost certainly going to be man u reserves though. if ever hull were going to beat them this is the game


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 19, 2009, 07:30:06 AM
Hull would need to win if its Sunderland you want down...

Chelsea 6-0 would do.

Makes our f up at the weekend look so much worse now.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on May 21, 2009, 02:28:56 PM
I drove through Newcastle today, all I saw were road signs for Darlington, Doncaster, Leeds, York, Hartlepool, Bradford, Grimsby, Scarborough, Carlisle, Scunthorpe.
Nice to see the travelling away Toon Supporters being pointed in the right directions for seasons to come


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 21, 2009, 07:15:46 PM
I drove through Newcastle today, all I saw were road signs for Darlington, Doncaster, Leeds, York, Hartlepool, Bradford, Grimsby, Scarborough, Carlisle, Scunthorpe.
Nice to see the travelling away Toon Supporters being pointed in the right directions for seasons to come


There's always one


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on May 22, 2009, 07:46:58 AM
Actually staying just outside Newcastle tonight on my way to Murrayfield...........seems a touch ironic


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on May 22, 2009, 05:23:39 PM
Can anyone make up a photoshop based on Childline but on Geordie Line instead? Could be handy for the Geordies at work on Tuesday.  ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 22, 2009, 06:41:46 PM
NUFC.com obviously read blonde! They have gone for the motivational piece on their site today.... it didnt work when I tried it a few games ago.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Newcastle United will be playing 3-5- fucking 2....

One time. (plus another three for Mid may).



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on May 24, 2009, 02:43:11 AM
(http://thensaturdaycomes.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/shearer-newcastle-relegated.jpg)

good luck ;-)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on May 24, 2009, 09:22:47 AM
Good luck. May the best teams stay up.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 24, 2009, 10:23:34 AM
What a horrible day. I feel sick. I was at a wedding with a 12 hour free bar yesterday, but I think its more to do with the realisation that we have taken 12 points from 54 away from home all season. We are now needing to add 25% to that in one game - pretty unlikely.

I think Villa will just do a job on us. We have no left back (or they might play Enrique who will then come off injured), we have no right back, and we have two centre backs who clearly cant play together at sunday morning park football level. With a lump of luck, and some clinical chance taking (ie scoring from both the chances we create) then we may get a draw and be hoping for Man U to come through.

Ideal scenario for Man U to score early, then dominate like their undoubted massively higher class should (whichever 11 from that squad), grab a second before half time and play that out. That should provide our team of waste of spaces (majority of them) wiith the motivation and hope to battle hard enough, be strong enough and play well enough to get what we need.

One time. Please.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 24, 2009, 10:29:15 AM
And for what its worth...

I dont think football owes Newcastle United anything. I dont think we have a devine right to be in the premier league. I dont think we are the biggest club in the country. I dont expect to win trophies. I dont think 'we' need taking down a peg or two.

I do think I am owed by highly paid players. I do think I should be able to watch my team play PL football. I do think we are the most important and biggest club that I have any concerns about. I do expect us to compete in every game we play.

I think 95% of NUFC fans would feel similarly.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 24, 2009, 12:25:48 PM
Seriously I hope the barcodes stay up for no other reason than YOU care ...

Good luck.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: celtic on May 24, 2009, 12:30:08 PM
Seriously I hope the barcodes stay up for no other reason than YOU care ...

Good luck.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 24, 2009, 12:35:35 PM
Good posts rooks,will be one of best days of my life if we pull this off.I just cant see it happening tho,one time you black and white b******s


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 24, 2009, 06:13:43 PM
Well at least they didn't give us any false hope by actualy ever looking like we were going to give it a go and stay up, other than the 13 minutes when yet again every other team did the business for us but we couldn't do it.

This is a more important summer than any other.   


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 24, 2009, 06:18:39 PM
You must be fkin gutted, How can you explain the fact that they needed to score yet created fuck all for 90 minutes ... I feel for you and hope you get sorted in the summer and get straight back up ... but jesus, that team needs completely stripping bare and a total rebuild is needed.

Football hurts genuine fans more than it can ever hurt players.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 24, 2009, 06:19:12 PM
Abs devastated what a joke,no heart,no fight,no battle,no commitment absolute fkn disgrace and a hope not one of them puts a black and white top on next season.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 24, 2009, 06:30:14 PM
I think we created more chances today than for weeks. They were all early on to go into the lead, even though we were being dominated. Second half there was absolutely nothing there. I can't explain that. The summer should be a real test of honour of the players that have taken us down. Those who want to stay and fight should take a huge volentary pay cut across the board. Those who won't should be shipped out, for free if necessary. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on May 24, 2009, 06:34:15 PM
what do you think will happen to Michael Owen? Will he stay at Newcastle? Amazing turn around in his career.He's now an England outcast when it look certain he would become top goalscorer/most capped player and now relegated.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 24, 2009, 06:36:20 PM
I think we created more chances today than for weeks. They were all early on to go into the lead, even though we were being dominated. Second half there was absolutely nothing there. I can't explain that. The summer should be a real test of honour of the players that have taken us down. Those who want to stay and fight should take a huge volentary pay cut across the board. Those who won't should be shipped out, for free if necessary. 

Who would you even want to stay;I can't think of many obviously martins is away and since all he does is smash the ball and hope for the best then let him go ,well played on the sitter missed in the 1st half .Owen obv away,bassong said he's going harper is shit enrique will leave apart from them a don't want anyone else to stay taylor's a knob FACT!!!,beye deserves better he's entitled to leave everyone else in the squad is a joke and would struggle in the championship


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 24, 2009, 06:37:02 PM
what do you think will happen to Michael Owen? Will he stay at Newcastle? Amazing turn around in his career.He's now an England outcast when it look certain he would become top goalscorer/most capped player and now relegated.

He doesn't give a shit,DIAGF for all a care


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: brummieboy on May 24, 2009, 08:13:53 PM
For a side staring relegation in the face I can't believe how little fight they put up especially in the second half when they must have known Hull was loosing.
Villa were poor and let in so many late goals at home that I can't believe Newcastle didn't throw the kitchen sink at us.
They need an overhaul but hopefully they can treat this as a fresh start and come back stronger.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Maxriddles on May 24, 2009, 10:43:01 PM
Gutted for Shearer and for all of the Newcastle fans, you deserve better. Hope it's a quick return to the top flight.

Howard Webb has a fair bit to answer for too as feck all wrong with the disallowed goal against Fulham.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 25, 2009, 10:42:22 AM
Tbh, there were numerous places where we've been unlucky and had goals disallowed but that's backed up by an equal measure of terrible performances when one more point would've sufficed. Can't blame the ref when all we have need is 1 more point over 38 games. 35 points is a pitiful target.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: dan on May 25, 2009, 11:11:16 AM
I dont mean for this to be a rubdown but it may sound that way.

As a season ticket holder at another PL club I am quite glad Newcastle are down. All you hear about is how the fans derserve better, the fans deserve a trophy blah blah. I have never understood where this comes from tbh. The fans are the same at alot of other clubs. We sellout for every away game as do Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa, Everton, Spurs etc etc. I know we get stick about the atmosphere at home but our away support is quite the opposite.

As a club, I and dont just mean this season, they must be one of the worst ran clubs in the world. There is always contraversey surrounding them, player bust ups, and so on.
I cant think of many players that have gone to Newcastle and actually done it and they have spent big money over the years too on some big names. And its not just players its managers too.

Although saying that I surprised myself yesterday, I didnt go to our last game of the season because Ive hurt my foot so I watched survival sunday. Whilst watching the games I found myself wanting Newcastle to stay up and for Hull to go down.

This is going to be an interesting summer for Newcastle. Surely they are going to lose about 80% of their players, Martins, Owen, Viduka, Smith, Butt?, Duff, Beye, guthierez(sp?) I just feel that if they dont bounce straight back it may go from bad to worse.

This may just be the big wake up call the Newcastle neee. They need to rebuild and try and build a squad like when they got promotion under Keegan.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Snatiramas on May 25, 2009, 12:03:47 PM
I do feel for the fans. They fill their stadium. Plenty of clubs do not come close to doing that. We as fans of any football club can surely identify with their pain. The problems are well known but in honesty a proportion of their support have brought this upon their own club. Allardyce would have sorted this club out. You might not have liked how pretty the football was but he understands club structures and what it takes to survive in the premiership.

This was not good enough. Quick fix and pretty football was demanded, chaos and relegation ensued. The messiahs are serial walkers. Keegan was the reason I put my bet on in September. i figured if he walked ( and let's be honest it would not be first time) that would be it.

To all you Toon fans I hope you are back in the premiership soon but imagine this scenario. Shearer walks. Players all sold. Ashley refuses to sell the club and takes them into administration. Lose 10 points. Ask any Leeds supporter what happens next.

For any fans of any premiership club who are feeling smug. We are all in debt. Fans are not spending as much money. The players are overpaid and nobody is standing up to them. This is a big mistake. The product is tired and the big four will be up there again. Massively in debt but up there. Next season should be absolutely fascinating financially. There will be some value around.....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 25, 2009, 12:40:11 PM
I dont mean for this to be a rubdown but it may sound that way.

As a season ticket holder at another PL club I am quite glad Newcastle are down. All you hear about is how the fans derserve better, the fans deserve a trophy blah blah. I have never understood where this comes from tbh. The fans are the same at alot of other clubs. We sellout for every away game as do Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa, Everton, Spurs etc etc. I know we get stick about the atmosphere at home but our away support is quite the opposite.

As a club, I and dont just mean this season, they must be one of the worst ran clubs in the world. There is always contraversey surrounding them, player bust ups, and so on.
I cant think of many players that have gone to Newcastle and actually done it and they have spent big money over the years too on some big names. And its not just players its managers too.

Although saying that I surprised myself yesterday, I didnt go to our last game of the season because Ive hurt my foot so I watched survival sunday. Whilst watching the games I found myself wanting Newcastle to stay up and for Hull to go down.

This is going to be an interesting summer for Newcastle. Surely they are going to lose about 80% of their players, Martins, Owen, Viduka, Smith, Butt?, Duff, Beye, guthierez(sp?) I just feel that if they dont bounce straight back it may go from bad to worse.

This may just be the big wake up call the Newcastle neee. They need to rebuild and try and build a squad like when they got promotion under Keegan.

No offence but knew i should've ignored this post anyway...

Who is it that says they deserve to win a trophy,i guess the word they kinda proves the point it isn't us the fans of newcastle united who say this,it's blatantly obvious we don't deserve to win any trophy just like ryan giggs didnt deserve to get pfa poty this season but all save that for another time.All we've ever asked for is a manager and 11 players who give it a 100%,show that they care and yeah we want to watch some decent football but FFS do people think we wouldn't be happy to watch shite football if we where winning 1-0 every week i'd be over the moon for christ sake obv.

You refer to away support but it is the home support that is always the issue here to be fair,and here's the thing;the clubs you mentioned for instance i've seen a few villa games where the ground looks half empty similarly i don't
believe goodison park is usually a sell out for the "lesser" teams they play as for the rest they've all won trophys in the last 5 years but as is proven we don't support our team on the requirement that we are a success just that we play decent football and give it a 100%, before this season with the ashley shit and all that we got 50k+ pretty much every league game since the ground was made bigger that's pretty good support imo.

Your reference to how bad the club has been run obviously has nothing to do with the fans and when people say where idiots for wanting shepherd out and then ashley and people have a go at us for wanting "success" the fact is the club is a shambles before yesterday and before ashley but he's made things 10x worse and i think us as fans are entitled to be a bit pissed off at that wouldn't you agree ?

As for players leaving i've already made my feelings clear about that,none of them bar habib beye and possibly bassong (although him saying last week he'd leave if we go down was bad timing from him and unnecessary).

So basically i am absolutely gutted that we're down,but i hope that in 5 years time we will look back at this point and see it was a good thing for us and hopefully better times are ahead for us.But no matter what, I and I would guess 35-40k other newcastle fans will be there come the start of next season to support our team.KEEP THE FAITH

Edit:No dig was ment at everton they are clearly a well run club with good support,gl to them and david moyes


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: AndrewT on May 25, 2009, 12:50:35 PM
Surely one of the problems with Newcastle is simply that they're in Newcastle - stuck away in the corner of the country miles away from any city in which an absolute top-class player would want to move to.

If it's not London or the North West then a top player isn't going to be interested. In order to attract players Newcastle have to offer bigger wages, which leads to the natural selection of the players they end up getting being the ones who are most motivated by money, rather than pride, ambition or the desire to become a better player.

Watching the game yesterday the thing which struck me most was that how no Newcastle player looked as if they were even breaking into a sweat to keep their team up, let alone busting a gut - they didn't care, knowing that they'll either leave, and stay in the Premiership, or go down with Newcastle and continue to pick up a huge pay packet as they see out their careers.

The thing Newcastle need more than anything else is hunger among their players.

As others have said, the fact Newcastle are a 'big club' or 'their fans deserve more' doesn't come into it - over 38 games the table doesn't lie, Newcastle were one of the three worst teams and so should go down.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 25, 2009, 12:53:13 PM
Surely one of the problems with Newcastle is simply that they're in Newcastle - stuck away in the corner of the country miles away from any city in which an absolute top-class player would want to move to.

If it's not London or the North West then a top player isn't going to be interested. In order to attract players Newcastle have to offer bigger wages, which leads to the natural selection of the players they end up getting being the ones who are most motivated by money, rather than pride, ambition or the desire to become a better player.

Watching the game yesterday the thing which struck me most was that how no Newcastle player looked as if they were even breaking into a sweat to keep their team up, let alone busting a gut - they didn't care, knowing that they'll either leave, and stay in the Premiership, or go down with Newcastle and continue to pick up a huge pay packet as they see out their careers.

The thing Newcastle need more than anything else is hunger among their players.

As others have said, the fact Newcastle are a 'big club' or 'their fans deserve more' doesn't come into it - over 38 games the table doesn't lie, Newcastle were one of the three worst teams and so should go down.

Very good post sir,we definitly deserved to go down no doubt about that


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: dan on May 25, 2009, 04:26:22 PM
I dont mean for this to be a rubdown but it may sound that way.

As a season ticket holder at another PL club I am quite glad Newcastle are down. All you hear about is how the fans derserve better, the fans deserve a trophy blah blah. I have never understood where this comes from tbh. The fans are the same at alot of other clubs. We sellout for every away game as do Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa, Everton, Spurs etc etc. I know we get stick about the atmosphere at home but our away support is quite the opposite.

As a club, I and dont just mean this season, they must be one of the worst ran clubs in the world. There is always contraversey surrounding them, player bust ups, and so on.
I cant think of many players that have gone to Newcastle and actually done it and they have spent big money over the years too on some big names. And its not just players its managers too.

Although saying that I surprised myself yesterday, I didnt go to our last game of the season because Ive hurt my foot so I watched survival sunday. Whilst watching the games I found myself wanting Newcastle to stay up and for Hull to go down.

This is going to be an interesting summer for Newcastle. Surely they are going to lose about 80% of their players, Martins, Owen, Viduka, Smith, Butt?, Duff, Beye, guthierez(sp?) I just feel that if they dont bounce straight back it may go from bad to worse.

This may just be the big wake up call the Newcastle neee. They need to rebuild and try and build a squad like when they got promotion under Keegan.

No offence but knew i should've ignored this post anyway...

Who is it that says they deserve to win a trophy,i guess the word they kinda proves the point it isn't us the fans of newcastle united who say this,it's blatantly obvious we don't deserve to win any trophy just like ryan giggs didnt deserve to get pfa poty this season but all save that for another time.All we've ever asked for is a manager and 11 players who give it a 100%,show that they care and yeah we want to watch some decent football but FFS do people think we wouldn't be happy to watch shite football if we where winning 1-0 every week i'd be over the moon for christ sake obv.

You refer to away support but it is the home support that is always the issue here to be fair,and here's the thing;the clubs you mentioned for instance i've seen a few villa games where the ground looks half empty similarly i don't
believe goodison park is usually a sell out for the "lesser" teams they play as for the rest they've all won trophys in the last 5 years but as is proven we don't support our team on the requirement that we are a success just that we play decent football and give it a 100%, before this season with the ashley shit and all that we got 50k+ pretty much every league game since the ground was made bigger that's pretty good support imo.

Your reference to how bad the club has been run obviously has nothing to do with the fans and when people say where idiots for wanting shepherd out and then ashley and people have a go at us for wanting "success" the fact is the club is a shambles before yesterday and before ashley but he's made things 10x worse and i think us as fans are entitled to be a bit pissed off at that wouldn't you agree ?

As for players leaving i've already made my feelings clear about that,none of them bar habib beye and possibly bassong (although him saying last week he'd leave if we go down was bad timing from him and unnecessary).

So basically i am absolutely gutted that we're down,but i hope that in 5 years time we will look back at this point and see it was a good thing for us and hopefully better times are ahead for us.But no matter what, I and I would guess 35-40k other newcastle fans will be there come the start of next season to support our team.KEEP THE FAITH

Edit:No dig was ment at everton they are clearly a well run club with good support,gl to them and david moyes

Mond, sorry I didn’t explain myself too well. When I said about the fans derserve this and that I know its not the fans that say it a lot of it is the media. The same way they say about European nights at Anfield and things like that. (yes European nights at Anfield have a good atmosphere but that’s just because it’s a big game like any stadium has a good atmosphere for big games, even ours)

My point about away support was just a point in general, what I am trying to say is that a lot of clubs have great support not just Newcastle. Newcastle fans are no better or worse than most other clubs fans. The only difference is they have to travel a lot futher for away games. I would say that most Newcastle fans live within a close proximity of the ground, I have to make a 260 mile round trip to go to a home game but I don’t see myself as a better or worse fan than most other fans.

The way the club is ran is a disgrace imo, yes I do agree with you and the fans should be pissed off with it but I think this is another reason why a lot of people have no sympathy for Newcastle United Football Club, the same way people don’t have sympathy with Leeds United  and their situation.

One other thing that I think is a little stupid is every time things go wrong the same old excuses come out. “we need people who understand the club” “we need Geordie people” Well in recent years you’ve had Bobby Robson, Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer as managers ( in all fairness to Shearer he may do a good job in future as he has only had 8 games) aswell as a fan who sits in the stand as owner, maybe it is complete opposite of what you need maybe you need complete proffesional people into run the club who don’t have personal ties.

Like I said whilst watching the games yesterday I wanted Newcastle to stay up, I don’t know why but that’s just how I felt. I can appreciate you must be gutted. If Shearer does stay in charge I think he may steady the ship and give the club a little more respect.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on May 25, 2009, 05:31:50 PM
Reading Hansen's column in today's telegraph you could be forgiven for thinking that Alan Shearer was an experienced top class manager who had been really unlucky over the eight games in charge.

I wonder how that column would have read had it been someone other than Shearer who had overseen a 1 in 8 record? 5 points from 24?

I sympathise with the fans, and of course the Chairmanship has been questionable over the past few seasons, but when the fans keep calling for Messiahs like Keegan and Shearer to be manager they overlook the fact that it takes experience to build a winning team.

Ashley should move heaven and earth to get Steve Bruce in the job


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on May 25, 2009, 07:40:25 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59R-1MyS-EU
 :)




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 25, 2009, 07:43:48 PM
LOL @ Sid James Park.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: brummieboy on May 25, 2009, 08:54:11 PM
I dont mean for this to be a rubdown but it may sound that way.

As a season ticket holder at another PL club I am quite glad Newcastle are down. All you hear about is how the fans derserve better, the fans deserve a trophy blah blah. I have never understood where this comes from tbh. The fans are the same at alot of other clubs. We sellout for every away game as do Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa, Everton, Spurs etc etc. I know we get stick about the atmosphere at home but our away support is quite the opposite.

As a club, I and dont just mean this season, they must be one of the worst ran clubs in the world. There is always contraversey surrounding them, player bust ups, and so on.
I cant think of many players that have gone to Newcastle and actually done it and they have spent big money over the years too on some big names. And its not just players its managers too.

Although saying that I surprised myself yesterday, I didnt go to our last game of the season because Ive hurt my foot so I watched survival sunday. Whilst watching the games I found myself wanting Newcastle to stay up and for Hull to go down.

This is going to be an interesting summer for Newcastle. Surely they are going to lose about 80% of their players, Martins, Owen, Viduka, Smith, Butt?, Duff, Beye, guthierez(sp?) I just feel that if they dont bounce straight back it may go from bad to worse.

This may just be the big wake up call the Newcastle neee. They need to rebuild and try and build a squad like when they got promotion under Keegan.

No offence but knew i should've ignored this post anyway...

Who is it that says they deserve to win a trophy,i guess the word they kinda proves the point it isn't us the fans of newcastle united who say this,it's blatantly obvious we don't deserve to win any trophy just like ryan giggs didnt deserve to get pfa poty this season but all save that for another time.All we've ever asked for is a manager and 11 players who give it a 100%,show that they care and yeah we want to watch some decent football but FFS do people think we wouldn't be happy to watch shite football if we where winning 1-0 every week i'd be over the moon for christ sake obv.

You refer to away support but it is the home support that is always the issue here to be fair,and here's the thing;the clubs you mentioned for instance i've seen a few villa games where the ground looks half empty similarly i don't
believe goodison park is usually a sell out for the "lesser" teams they play as for the rest they've all won trophys in the last 5 years but as is proven we don't support our team on the requirement that we are a success just that we play decent football and give it a 100%, before this season with the ashley shit and all that we got 50k+ pretty much every league game since the ground was made bigger that's pretty good support imo.

Your reference to how bad the club has been run obviously has nothing to do with the fans and when people say where idiots for wanting shepherd out and then ashley and people have a go at us for wanting "success" the fact is the club is a shambles before yesterday and before ashley but he's made things 10x worse and i think us as fans are entitled to be a bit pissed off at that wouldn't you agree ?

As for players leaving i've already made my feelings clear about that,none of them bar habib beye and possibly bassong (although him saying last week he'd leave if we go down was bad timing from him and unnecessary).

So basically i am absolutely gutted that we're down,but i hope that in 5 years time we will look back at this point and see it was a good thing for us and hopefully better times are ahead for us.But no matter what, I and I would guess 35-40k other newcastle fans will be there come the start of next season to support our team.KEEP THE FAITH

Edit:No dig was ment at everton they are clearly a well run club with good support,gl to them and david moyes

Not sure what Villa games you've seen Mond our lowest league crowd was 34000 against Bolton who's away support normally come in a couple of taxis. Thats 8000 below capacity.
Newcastle had two attendancies of 44000 which is 8000 below their capacity.  We had a couple of lower crowds in the early rounds of the UEFA cup but I still remember seeing a practically empty St James Park against Spurs in the League Cup and the FA Cup replay against Hull was barely half full.
I wish you luck in getting back up at the first attempt as Newcastle should be in the top flight hope you get a few players who play with a bit more pride for that famous black and white shirt.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on May 25, 2009, 11:56:41 PM
I don't think there is any sort of Leeds united issue. The only creditor of note is mike ashley and 1) I can't picture any motiation to take it into administration (or even if that would be legal or an option etc) 2) I can't see us getting in a position where that's an issue.

Loads has been said about no delegation clauses etc. Of our 70m wage bill Owen is 6m and viduka 3m. That's a decent reduction before starting.

I'm down in London flat hunting so only got access via phone. Few posts of interest which I'd have to try and respond to at the end of the week. I think andrewT has made that point before and I completely agree with it. So different now from even 12 to 15 years ago and is quite possibily what has really challenged my whole enjoyment of football.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 26, 2009, 12:07:31 AM
I dont mean for this to be a rubdown but it may sound that way.

As a season ticket holder at another PL club I am quite glad Newcastle are down. All you hear about is how the fans derserve better, the fans deserve a trophy blah blah. I have never understood where this comes from tbh. The fans are the same at alot of other clubs. We sellout for every away game as do Man Utd, Liverpool, Villa, Everton, Spurs etc etc. I know we get stick about the atmosphere at home but our away support is quite the opposite.

As a club, I and dont just mean this season, they must be one of the worst ran clubs in the world. There is always contraversey surrounding them, player bust ups, and so on.
I cant think of many players that have gone to Newcastle and actually done it and they have spent big money over the years too on some big names. And its not just players its managers too.

Although saying that I surprised myself yesterday, I didnt go to our last game of the season because Ive hurt my foot so I watched survival sunday. Whilst watching the games I found myself wanting Newcastle to stay up and for Hull to go down.

This is going to be an interesting summer for Newcastle. Surely they are going to lose about 80% of their players, Martins, Owen, Viduka, Smith, Butt?, Duff, Beye, guthierez(sp?) I just feel that if they dont bounce straight back it may go from bad to worse.

This may just be the big wake up call the Newcastle neee. They need to rebuild and try and build a squad like when they got promotion under Keegan.

No offence but knew i should've ignored this post anyway...

Who is it that says they deserve to win a trophy,i guess the word they kinda proves the point it isn't us the fans of newcastle united who say this,it's blatantly obvious we don't deserve to win any trophy just like ryan giggs didnt deserve to get pfa poty this season but all save that for another time.All we've ever asked for is a manager and 11 players who give it a 100%,show that they care and yeah we want to watch some decent football but FFS do people think we wouldn't be happy to watch shite football if we where winning 1-0 every week i'd be over the moon for christ sake obv.

You refer to away support but it is the home support that is always the issue here to be fair,and here's the thing;the clubs you mentioned for instance i've seen a few villa games where the ground looks half empty similarly i don't
believe goodison park is usually a sell out for the "lesser" teams they play as for the rest they've all won trophys in the last 5 years but as is proven we don't support our team on the requirement that we are a success just that we play decent football and give it a 100%, before this season with the ashley shit and all that we got 50k+ pretty much every league game since the ground was made bigger that's pretty good support imo.

Your reference to how bad the club has been run obviously has nothing to do with the fans and when people say where idiots for wanting shepherd out and then ashley and people have a go at us for wanting "success" the fact is the club is a shambles before yesterday and before ashley but he's made things 10x worse and i think us as fans are entitled to be a bit pissed off at that wouldn't you agree ?

As for players leaving i've already made my feelings clear about that,none of them bar habib beye and possibly bassong (although him saying last week he'd leave if we go down was bad timing from him and unnecessary).

So basically i am absolutely gutted that we're down,but i hope that in 5 years time we will look back at this point and see it was a good thing for us and hopefully better times are ahead for us.But no matter what, I and I would guess 35-40k other newcastle fans will be there come the start of next season to support our team.KEEP THE FAITH

Edit:No dig was ment at everton they are clearly a well run club with good support,gl to them and david moyes

Mond, sorry I didn’t explain myself too well. When I said about the fans derserve this and that I know its not the fans that say it a lot of it is the media. The same way they say about European nights at Anfield and things like that. (yes European nights at Anfield have a good atmosphere but that’s just because it’s a big game like any stadium has a good atmosphere for big games, even ours)

My point about away support was just a point in general, what I am trying to say is that a lot of clubs have great support not just Newcastle. Newcastle fans are no better or worse than most other clubs fans. The only difference is they have to travel a lot futher for away games. I would say that most Newcastle fans live within a close proximity of the ground, I have to make a 260 mile round trip to go to a home game but I don’t see myself as a better or worse fan than most other fans.

The way the club is ran is a disgrace imo, yes I do agree with you and the fans should be pissed off with it but I think this is another reason why a lot of people have no sympathy for Newcastle United Football Club, the same way people don’t have sympathy with Leeds United  and their situation.

One other thing that I think is a little stupid is every time things go wrong the same old excuses come out. “we need people who understand the club” “we need Geordie people” Well in recent years you’ve had Bobby Robson, Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer as managers ( in all fairness to Shearer he may do a good job in future as he has only had 8 games) aswell as a fan who sits in the stand as owner, maybe it is complete opposite of what you need maybe you need complete proffesional people into run the club who don’t have personal ties.

Like I said whilst watching the games yesterday I wanted Newcastle to stay up, I don’t know why but that’s just how I felt. I can appreciate you must be gutted. If Shearer does stay in charge I think he may steady the ship and give the club a little more respect.

Fair points,as for the three managers you mentioned,sir bobby had us in the cl and we played really good football,keegan had us playing some of the best football ever played in the prem and came close to winning us the league and as you said shearer hasn't had anytime to judge him on.

As for villa in previous seasons when they weren't doing so well there attendance for tv games has looked poor to me but i may be wrong.Gl to you and your club though


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 26, 2009, 12:58:37 PM
There was a tongue in cheek suggestion in Scotland that rather than Celtic & Rangers joining the english leagues, we should invite the 3 North-East clubs to join the SPL. They'd all have a far better chance of making Europe - the travelling for away games would probably average at less than currently & the might even challenge for a trophy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on May 27, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
   Okay,mourning officially over,i will be putting the trials and tribulations of last season to the back of my mind whilst looking forward to the fixture announcements on June 17th.I will especially be looking out for the Scunny/Doncaster games as these can be added to my "list"so i hope they fall on favourable dates,these matches don't have the same ring to them as Monaco or Roma but they count for the same amount of ticks so bring them on LOL.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 09, 2009, 04:18:07 PM
Newcastle owner Mike Ashley has had offers of £10, Oasis tickets and a Curly Wurly after inviting offers for the Tyneside outfit by e-mail. The Magpies have been given a £100m price tag.


LOL ... snap the Oasis tickets up Ashley, could be the best offer you get.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on June 09, 2009, 06:41:34 PM
£100million is a steal imo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on June 09, 2009, 07:12:01 PM
Get Ashley to put a post up on the live staking board, im sure Flushy might be interested at that knockdown price.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 12, 2009, 01:42:19 PM
Sorry in advance guys - I know the last thing you need is a rub-down - but this was a belter. Probably better not to watch it if you are a Geordie.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQs4aA7LHU


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Matt50 on June 17, 2009, 12:09:32 PM
I am gutted we have Newcastle away on a Weds night - was really looking forward to that one but probably not going to be able too now!!!

Still on the bright side we have them at home on August 22nd - so not long to wait for that one.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on June 17, 2009, 01:57:50 PM
I am gutted we have Newcastle away on a Weds night - was really looking forward to that one but probably not going to be able too now!!!

Still on the bright side we have them at home on August 22nd - so not long to wait for that one.

I'm looking forward to 22nd August too. I have just packed my football boots, just in case.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on June 17, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
Result. Wednesday got the Toon on boxing day.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on June 17, 2009, 03:50:50 PM
Well tomorrow is the first day of the rest of my life.... well something like that anyway. Room is 80% packed, hire van is booked for the morning to move me south, and new job will be starting on Monday. Looking forward to it, but its a pretty big deal for me, so there are nerves etc to go with it.

Football wise scanning the fixtures this morning was interesting. We really need sorting out with an owner, a manager and do what needs to be done on the playing side too, all asap. worrying I look at that fixture list and think, that seems like a tough game. Not sure what that is all about. If we cant offload players this summer we really should absolutely piss that league if those that stay can play to 60% of their ability. Having said that, we also wouldnt have gone down if they could have done that.

Lets see what happens anyway. Things are very rarely easy with NUFC, so its unlikely to be coasting at the top of the league all season like we somehow did last time.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on June 17, 2009, 04:34:01 PM
GL with the job mate

How nice of the players such as martins and smith etc to say the want to stay and get the club back up,i wonder why ???

Surely with no owner, no manager, a messed up team and the fact it's us makes us a good lay for winning the championship ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Matt50 on June 17, 2009, 04:46:36 PM
Well tomorrow is the first day of the rest of my life.... well something like that anyway. Room is 80% packed, hire van is booked for the morning to move me south, and new job will be starting on Monday. Looking forward to it, but its a pretty big deal for me, so there are nerves etc to go with it.

Football wise scanning the fixtures this morning was interesting. We really need sorting out with an owner, a manager and do what needs to be done on the playing side too, all asap. worrying I look at that fixture list and think, that seems like a tough game. Not sure what that is all about. If we cant offload players this summer we really should absolutely piss that league if those that stay can play to 60% of their ability. Having said that, we also wouldnt have gone down if they could have done that.

Lets see what happens anyway. Things are very rarely easy with NUFC, so its unlikely to be coasting at the top of the league all season like we somehow did last time.

I think you are in for a shock.  There is not that much difference between the top of the championship and the bottom of the Premiership, and as everyone knows there is not a lot of difference between the top of the Championship and mid-table.

Therefore, there will be 10 or 12 teams that are almost as good as Newcastle.
Factor in that this is going to be the biggest game of most teams season and it could well be rough going for the Toon.

GL with the job mate

How nice of the players such as martins and smith etc to say the want to stay and get the club back up,i wonder why ???

Surely with no owner, no manager, a messed up team and the fact it's us makes us a good lay for winning the championship ?

Already done a couple of weeks ago due to the reasons stated above.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 17, 2009, 05:10:09 PM
Well tomorrow is the first day of the rest of my life.... well something like that anyway. Room is 80% packed, hire van is booked for the morning to move me south, and new job will be starting on Monday. Looking forward to it, but its a pretty big deal for me, so there are nerves etc to go with it.

Football wise scanning the fixtures this morning was interesting. We really need sorting out with an owner, a manager and do what needs to be done on the playing side too, all asap. worrying I look at that fixture list and think, that seems like a tough game. Not sure what that is all about. If we cant offload players this summer we really should absolutely piss that league if those that stay can play to 60% of their ability. Having said that, we also wouldnt have gone down if they could have done that.

Lets see what happens anyway. Things are very rarely easy with NUFC, so its unlikely to be coasting at the top of the league all season like we somehow did last time.


GL mate - hope you enjoy it!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on June 17, 2009, 05:15:37 PM
where abouts are you moving to?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on June 17, 2009, 05:38:19 PM
Well tomorrow is the first day of the rest of my life.... well something like that anyway. Room is 80% packed, hire van is booked for the morning to move me south, and new job will be starting on Monday. Looking forward to it, but its a pretty big deal for me, so there are nerves etc to go with it.

Football wise scanning the fixtures this morning was interesting. We really need sorting out with an owner, a manager and do what needs to be done on the playing side too, all asap. worrying I look at that fixture list and think, that seems like a tough game. Not sure what that is all about. If we cant offload players this summer we really should absolutely piss that league if those that stay can play to 60% of their ability. Having said that, we also wouldnt have gone down if they could have done that.

Lets see what happens anyway. Things are very rarely easy with NUFC, so its unlikely to be coasting at the top of the league all season like we somehow did last time.

I think you are in for a shock.  There is not that much difference between the top of the championship and the bottom of the Premiership, and as everyone knows there is not a lot of difference between the top of the Championship and mid-table.

Therefore, there will be 10 or 12 teams that are almost as good as Newcastle.
Factor in that this is going to be the biggest game of most teams season and it could well be rough going for the Toon.

GL with the job mate

How nice of the players such as martins and smith etc to say the want to stay and get the club back up,i wonder why ???

Surely with no owner, no manager, a messed up team and the fact it's us makes us a good lay for winning the championship ?

Already done a couple of weeks ago due to the reasons stated above.

My opinion is largely based on that there is little between the bottom couple of teams in the PL and the top of the Championship. The bottom 5 teams in the PL were an absolute joke last season. I think that in terms of 'quality' we vastly under performed, whereas the other teams just didnt have the 'quality'. Keeping those players, and them actually performing should make it easy.... take this with a big pinch of salt though. I'm well aware that there cant be too much to support that theory actually holding true.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on June 17, 2009, 05:45:27 PM
where abouts are you moving to?

Moving to Brentford. Might catch a couple of their games... Leeds for one on 12th December. Hartlepool home last day of the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on June 18, 2009, 09:23:21 PM
As I pulled from the M1 down onto the M25, in my free upgraded ford transit van, a magpie flew across all carriage ways in a suicide attack on said white transit fan. I had no where to go. The wheel arch took the hit. The unconsious magpie flew backwards, landing under the wheels of a 18 wheel truck.

I later sat in queuing traffic wondering if this had been sone form of symbolic attack!

Moving is a big hassle, not in a hurry to do it again.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on June 22, 2009, 02:13:48 PM
gg

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2hd5taa.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on June 22, 2009, 02:15:39 PM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/tholynski/soleroawayt.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on June 22, 2009, 04:44:22 PM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/tholynski/soleroawayt.jpg)

New team coach

(http://www.transitvanclub.co.uk/icecream57.jpg)

new all time low?

"you bring me sunshine, when sky's are grey."

lol?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 23, 2009, 11:35:44 AM
Are you Blackpool in disguise ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on June 23, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on June 23, 2009, 05:49:12 PM
Top marks.
 rotflmfao


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on June 23, 2009, 10:03:26 PM
You got it bit carried away there nem lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on June 24, 2009, 09:18:15 PM
Just ordered mine.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 24, 2009, 09:23:45 PM
Just ordered mine.

Mate, I think you forgot the [ ]


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: paulhouk03 on June 24, 2009, 11:54:06 PM
i prefer to have kaka and ronaldo then newcastle football club


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on June 25, 2009, 09:23:54 PM
i prefer to have kaka and ronaldo then newcastle football club
[/iuote]

Intelligent comment.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on July 16, 2009, 04:09:51 PM
http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~vladimir/konst/Sweden_vs_GB.pdf


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on July 16, 2009, 04:20:09 PM
ah, happy memories of clubbing in stockholm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on July 24, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8166024.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on July 25, 2009, 01:29:55 AM
This is still three more than any other club gets....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2009, 05:39:33 PM

Tim Krul, Habib Beye, Jose Enrique, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini, Joey Barton, Damien Duff, Kevin Nolan, Jonas Gutierrez, Alan Smith ©, Oba Martins

Lost 6-1 at Leyton Orient today

 :dontask:

sense a hell of a betting opportunity to buy Newcastle points after an assumedly rough first six weeks of the season, assuming some stability and a permanent manager by then


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: paulhouk03 on July 26, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
i think they might do a leeds and struggle in the championship and maybe drop down a division within a couple of years.

its seems like the club is struggling


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on July 26, 2009, 04:51:26 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvd5znjlFuY

mon the o's


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on July 26, 2009, 06:26:05 PM
Sir Bobby Robson, though looking weak, looks in good form. Absolute legend.

Shearer at SJP for the last time in a while? Shearer and Ferdinand back together again. 

ITV4


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on July 26, 2009, 06:38:42 PM
Sir Bobby Robson, though looking weak, looks in good form. Absolute legend.

Shearer at SJP for the last time in a while? Shearer and Ferdinand back together again. 

ITV4

how do you feel about Shearer leaving then? Rather curious to find out how the Newc supporters think of this.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on July 26, 2009, 07:20:31 PM
my lifes so shit. I finally think im gona get weighed in on my Shearer next Newcastle Manager bet, but no no, hes not getting the job.

GG £300.

In other news, me and Linux thinking about making the trip up North for the Newcastle v Leeds friendly on Wednesday. Expect to win tbh, we were excellent against a full strength Blackburn side on Saturday.

Mainly just want to go to abuse Smith, the Judas Scum.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on July 26, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
Sir Bobby Robson, though looking weak, looks in good form. Absolute legend.

Shearer at SJP for the last time in a while? Shearer and Ferdinand back together again. 

ITV4

how do you feel about Shearer leaving then? Rather curious to find out how the Newc supporters think of this.

Is he leaving/Is he not?! I think the main issue is just not knowing.

We need to focus everything on getting back in the PL this season. There really cant be any question about that. Financially there is no way that we can take a couple of years and build back up. We need to get back in the Pl and then do that.  For that reason I dont think getting a proven second tier manager is the way to go. We must accpet that we arent going to get (or even afford) a top quality proven manager. We're in a huge hole and we need fighters and people that give a shit.  That for me gives a decent backing to the Shearer for manager campaign.  The last 8 games of last season don't. But I dont think that is really anything to be taken into too much consideration.

The key thing is that something needs to happen, and it needs to happen now.... well within the next 10 days. If it doesnt I really really fear for the coming season, even if the expected mass clear out of players doesnt come along. If that does happen we'll really struggle for numbers through to January and then it could be too late too.

Its pretty fucking shit. I know that.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on July 26, 2009, 09:58:20 PM
my lifes so shit. I finally think im gona get weighed in on my Shearer next Newcastle Manager bet, but no no, hes not getting the job.

GG £300.

In other news, me and Linux thinking about making the trip up North for the Newcastle v Leeds friendly on Wednesday. Expect to win tbh, we were excellent against a full strength Blackburn side on Saturday.

Mainly just want to go to abuse Smith, the Judas Scum.

give him some from me. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on July 26, 2009, 10:04:04 PM
And for me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 05, 2009, 11:40:50 PM
Cant believe this hasn't been bumped today you lot are slacking


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on August 05, 2009, 11:49:37 PM
Cant believe this hasn't been bumped today you lot are slacking

This ??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8185431.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 05, 2009, 11:50:29 PM
That'll be the one


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 05, 2009, 11:58:20 PM
So com were such a joke where not even worth taking the piss out of anymore lol.If ashley & kinnear are back running the club honest to god... ... best just leave it at that but FFS



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 06, 2009, 07:56:19 PM
I've just flown through Newcastle, literally, and it kind of brought te situation to light. This season really could be our worst yet. Our only hope is that the youngesters that will be thrown into the deep end find something from somewhere and keep us within touching distance to January. We then need to be bought, stablised and strengthened for an outside go at the playoffs.

I really think Saturday could be embarrassing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on August 07, 2009, 01:54:54 AM
Is Viduka still there for this season?

Seems to be.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 07, 2009, 04:03:56 AM
Is Viduka still there for this season?

Seems to be.
Going Pompey i think


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 07, 2009, 08:40:26 AM
Is Viduka still there for this season?

Seems to be.

He doesn't have a contract as far as I know. He might be training with the squad for fitness/hoping to impress/trying to bring on andy Carroll.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on August 07, 2009, 10:39:10 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/8187526.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 07, 2009, 03:36:44 PM
£8m profit can't really be scoffed at. Dennis Wise will probably think this means he did well... shame there isthe best part of a £13m loss to come from his other centre half aquisition.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on August 07, 2009, 04:53:34 PM
I really can't say i'am looking forward to tomorrows opener,i hope we don't get a drubbing on national tv,god only knows whats going on behind the scenes.New captain Alan Smith and playing in the new away kit just marvelous.

How is the new job going Rooky?What do you think of Waterside.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 08, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
We will win today


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2009, 01:31:44 PM
Newcastle defender Steven Taylor has launched a scathing attack on his own club, branding the current situation at St James' Park "a joke".

The Magpies face West Brom in their opening Championship fixture of the season on Saturday, but are still without a full-time manager.

Doubts over the ownership of the club also loom large as they begin their first campaign outside the top-flight for 16 years.

Taylor stressed the importance of stability ahead of the clash with West Brom, claiming that the current managerial situation has become unsettling.

"The players are very frustrated because all we want to do is have a manager and a bit of stability. That's all we ask for," he said.
Devastated

"The new manager should be given time to do it his way and if he wants something just give it to him. The chairman, if he loves this football club, would do that. I'm devastated Alan Shearer has not got the job. As players, we haven't a clue what is going on.

"I've read every week that next week Alan is going to be named manager. Then Joe Kinnear is going to get the job, then Kevin Keegan and then Alan Shearer again. I don't get it. The club is a joke."

The 23-year-old centre-back also revealed that Alan Shearer, who managed the club at the end of last season, had already put plans in place for the current campaign.

"Everyone thought he would be back in place. We thought it might take a couple of weeks but then Alan would be the manager.

"And that's why I missed the (Under-21) European Championship. He wanted me right for the start of the season and of course I was happy to do it. I have so much respect for him and whatever he says, you do it.

"He said he would be back and would do it his way. I guarantee if he was still manager now, all our big players would still be here.

"The chairman would have had a headache over the wage bill but whatever Alan Shearer wants, you give him. He commands that much respect and he would take us straight back up."


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on August 08, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
We will win today

We sure will.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on August 08, 2009, 06:17:34 PM
Why concede a goal when you can do that and get your striker to kick your goalie in the head?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2009, 06:20:14 PM
Carroll is a terrific prospect. All heart and passion. Unlike some in the team!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on August 08, 2009, 07:08:58 PM
Carroll is a terrific prospect. All heart and passion. Unlike some in the team!

Barton for Carroll? Way to attack the game Hughton. Ameobi should've been offloaded 5 years ago.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
Tim Krul

[ x ] Bucketloads of natural talent for shot stopping

[   ] Bucketloads of good technique for the basics


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on August 08, 2009, 09:05:49 PM
Thought Newcastle looked pretty good, esp in Midfield.

Dont really rate the strikeforce, but i guess it can do a job at Championship level.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 09, 2009, 01:07:22 AM
Tim Krul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Steve Harper

And i sure wasn't saying it last season

Good point today imo we played some ok stuff


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on August 09, 2009, 08:15:19 AM
  Pleasantly surprised with our our perfomance against one of the probable promotion candidates.The team seemed to have found a passion that was woefully lacking last season hopefully banding together in the face of adversity.I really thought we were going to get spanked before kick off but as usual Newcastle never fail to surprise me.I imagine the result was a massive coupon buster around the country.
  I rarely took much notice of the lower leagues the last few years but yesterday i watched the Southampton-Millwall game and really enjoyed it.Also a great start to the season for my now local team Brentford who i will try and catch a few games with this year.So with pessimism levels suitably adjusted onto getting time off work for the Palace game(bloody school holidays),Selhurst park has never been one of my favourite grounds to visit,it's such a ball ache to get to and i've tried every way,train,underground by car and even when you get there the pubs leave alot to be desired.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 09, 2009, 09:50:49 AM
Yeh they looked alright. Krul did a job.
Has Smith not been tried up front again? Barton and Nolan would surely be one of the best centre midfields still.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 09, 2009, 10:22:09 AM
Definitely down the same path of being pleasantly surprised by the performance and result.

I thought Smith probably had his best ever game for us, with some genuinely good tackles to win possession or slow attacks down - he still gave the ball a way a few too many times but there were a few doing that.

Carrol looked strong and hungry, though I just cant see him being a regular goalscorer, perhaps having been spoilt by great strikers over the years I might be expecting too much.  

Tim Krul's performance didnt surprise me one bit. He was outstanding two years ago, has been out on loan and he still looks good. He's got height, looks extremely comfortably coming for the ball (apart from the last minute foul and offside header) and he is a good shot stopper. I'm not sure what other basics they are to have as a keeper Tighty? His distribution I expect great things from. Last season during warm ups he'd stand midway into the oppositions half and take Harpers practice goal kicks and return the ball. He would regularly hit half volleys back into the goal keeping coaches hands without him moving one inch.

Having said all this that first 11 really should be putting in decent performances. Put aside the fact they are paid however many times more than the rest of the league, there are just some real proven players in there, international players. Looking at the team sheet is what makes me think (more if we dont offload anymore now):

If we cant offload players this summer we really should absolutely piss that league if those that stay can play to 60% of their ability. Having said that, we also wouldnt have gone down if they could have done that.

So just the small matter of needing the club to be sold, a manager to be appointed, a couple of players to come in and we'll be ready for the season....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 09, 2009, 10:38:18 AM
BBC News... MIKE ASHLEY COULD STAY AT NEWCASTLE AND APPOINT DAVID O'LEARY AS MANAGER..

WTF


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 09, 2009, 10:56:07 AM
BBC News... MIKE ASHLEY COULD STAY AT NEWCASTLE AND APPOINT DAVID O'LEARY AS MANAGER..

WTF

/LIFE


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on August 09, 2009, 11:08:51 AM
LOL sunday ruined


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on August 09, 2009, 05:30:23 PM
BBC News... MIKE ASHLEY COULD STAY AT NEWCASTLE AND APPOINT DAVID O'LEARY AS MANAGER..

WTF

i heard O'leary turned it down - embarrassing!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 09, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
BBC News... MIKE ASHLEY COULD STAY AT NEWCASTLE AND APPOINT DAVID O'LEARY AS MANAGER..

WTF

i heard O'leary turned it down - embarrassing!

O'leary also claimed to have been offered, and rejected, the Celtic job before TM got it....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 14, 2009, 06:42:31 PM
Fucking hell. Can someone let me know when we hit the bottom!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 14, 2009, 08:30:24 PM
Fucking hell. Can someone let me know when we hit the bottom!

Noorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ???


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 14, 2009, 08:34:06 PM
Fucking hell. Can someone let me know when we hit the bottom!

Can't find anything online for why you put this,i'm confused


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 14, 2009, 08:35:54 PM
Unless u mean getting turned down by o'leary but thats great news


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 14, 2009, 10:30:14 PM
More just the coming and going of another supposed deadline meaning we're now set for a full season of uncertainty. More
players will go before the end of the month and we will be left with smith and a load of kids. The way we are going though this will be our most profitable ever year accounting wise.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 16, 2009, 02:03:46 AM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Sholaaaaaaaaaa


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on August 16, 2009, 02:49:21 AM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Sholeaaaaaaaaaarer

fyp.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2009, 11:42:44 PM
Crowd at SJP 43,904 - nearly 3,000 more than watched the mackems take on Chelsea on Tuesday night in the Premier League following their win at Bolton. Remarkable.

Few people I know suggested we'd struggle to get 30k those same people also gave up there season ticket,we sure will.If ashley goes and the teams playing well most likely sell out every game.

Another good result tonight keep it up plz


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DaveShoelace on August 20, 2009, 09:53:52 AM
Crowd at SJP 43,904 - nearly 3,000 more than watched the mackems take on Chelsea on Tuesday night in the Premier League following their win at Bolton. Remarkable.

Few people I know suggested we'd struggle to get 30k those same people also gave up there season ticket,we sure will.If ashley goes and the teams playing well most likely sell out every game.

Another good result tonight keep it up plz

Its only because you were playing the mighty wednesday, nothing brings a crowd out quite like seeing the blue and white wizards get battered like we always do against Newcastle.

My god its gonna be a long season for the owls :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on August 20, 2009, 09:57:36 AM
Have the newcastle fans started singing 'one nil in your cup final' yet?

Its always a favourite for the relegated teams!



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on August 20, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
Have the newcastle fans started singing 'one nil in your cup final' yet?

Its always a favourite for the relegated teams!



Is it? Will get that one out in October when we lead a game.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on August 20, 2009, 12:24:34 PM
Old faves like 'who the fking hell are you' are also good.

Leeds fans are a joy to behold!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DaveShoelace on August 20, 2009, 12:56:21 PM
I notice that 'are you Wednesday in disguise?' is becoming more and more popular, so much so that away fans actually sing it to us at Hillsborough sometimes


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on August 20, 2009, 01:06:41 PM
"You're just a town full of horses..." sung at Cheltenham is my favourite.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on August 20, 2009, 02:43:11 PM
my favourite;


you look in the dustbin for something to eat,
you find a dead lobster you think its a treat,
in your Monaco slums
in your Monaco slums

European nights in Monaco,Belgrade etc seem so far away.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on August 20, 2009, 06:52:32 PM
I love the clever football chants.

We have started singing 1-0 its your keepers fault, 1-0 its your keepers fault.

Its cracking, even if it isn't the keepers fault!

At brighton we sang 'we can see you, we can see you, we can see you holding hands!'

Doubt that we created it but still funny.

Anymore for anymore?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on August 20, 2009, 06:58:37 PM
At brighton we sang 'we can see you, we can see you, we can see you holding hands!'

Doubt that we created it but still funny.


pretty sure that's been sung by every team ever to play brighton


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longines on August 20, 2009, 07:12:14 PM
Two of the best:

"Don't blame it on Henry, don't blame it on the injuries, don't blame it on the referees, blame it on Eboue!"

"Let's talk about Cesc baby, lets talk about Flam-in-i, let's talk about Theo Walcott, Freddie Ljungberg and Henry, let's talk about Cesc."



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 20, 2009, 11:16:19 PM
Funniest one i ever heard,well i read it in the sun but anyho,may need bit of help from a liverpool fan but it goes summit like "Dirk Kuyt as good as you maybe, you hit every branch on the ugly tree,crouch fowler and bellamy,kuyt is good but he's fukn ugly"


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Matt50 on August 24, 2009, 09:40:28 AM
I have to say that i was 'unpleasantly' surprised by how good Newcastle were at Palace on Saturday.

There midfied ran the show, and the pace and movement was far far better than anything i have seen at Selhurst for the last 3 or 4 seasons.
Granted they didnt look too comfortable at the back, especially against set pieces and high balls into the box, but from what i saw on Saturday if they keep hold of Smith, Nolan, Butt and Guttieriez (sp) they will certainly be up there at the end of the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on August 24, 2009, 01:17:53 PM
When teams come to our place and sing "Your'e not famous anymore"

The reply is "Your'e not famous anyway"

Makes me smile and usually quietens them down a bit lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 24, 2009, 06:24:42 PM
What an absolute **** Mike Ashley really is,thanks for the update tosser.Strange that he's put us up for sale just before the the jan transfer window took us off at the end of Jan then back on for the whole of the summer and will take us off it next monday,which just so happens to be final day off this transfer window.If we kept the players we have an just added free players like Campbell/Lovenkrands and 1/2 loan players we'd have  good chance of getting back up but instead he's prob going to ruin the club by selling Taylor/Gutierrez and anyone else he can get good money for,DIE PLZ


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 31, 2009, 03:30:53 PM
Every game i never no where my season ticket is ffs,will find it soon.Don't see us winning the night with no strikers gg


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 31, 2009, 03:58:19 PM
Breaking news on Sky Sports.......

Xisco agrees season long loan deal with Racing Santander.  I dont know how we'll go on without him.

So thats:
Michael Owen - 105k
Mark Viduka    - 55k
Damien Duff    - 60k
Oba Martins     - 45k
Seb Bassong    - 25k
Habib Beye      - 30k
Xisco               - say 20k of 40k.


So thats the best part of 18m slashed from the wage bill - a reduction of about 25%. With the parachute payments that must surely be about right.  We need to get through this window without losing anyone else then start to just focus on getting promotion. If we avoid a run of injuries (actually we may need a bit of luck there - or at the very least improvement from our injury record) then I see us as having a great chance. I made a stupid comment that we should piss this league with our players but looking at the start we have made I'll stand by it. The biggest problems I can see are i) the players start believing it too much and ii) injuries.

I'm loving the coverage of the Championship, I've seen nearly all the games this season so far!

As for strikers then I'd put Smith up top with Nolan, Barton and Guthrie behind that. He might actually score if he gets a run up there, which would be nice. He has been one of my least favourite Newcastle players, but he has really won me round this season so far. He could still do with cutting out the odd stupid foul but can't knock his commitment.

Howay the Toon




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 31, 2009, 03:59:58 PM
LOL,although this still is bad since he is a squad player and won't be replaced.I for one am abs shocked at the lack of news when today was the NEXT deadline


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on August 31, 2009, 04:19:08 PM
LOL,although this still is bad since he is a squad player and won't be replaced.I for one am abs shocked at the lack of news when today was the NEXT deadline

I really dont think he is even a squad player at Championship level - be it because of lack of confidence or just complete lack of a ability of a mix of the two. He would have taken the place of someone like Nile Ranger would I would much sooner see given a go.  Maybe ignore my formation above and play him with Smith today even.

24 hours and 45 mins to go.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 01, 2009, 12:04:37 AM
Good result,but collocini who i dont rate at all but is 1/14 1st team players is possibly off to lazio  and i expect one more to go with nobody coming in which would leave us 12 1st team players,which means i'll be glad if we stay up.Hope i'm wrong.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 01, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Good result,but collocini who i dont rate at all but is 1/14 1st team players is possibly off to lazio  and i expect one more to go with nobody coming in which would leave us 12 1st team players,which means i'll be glad if we stay up.Hope i'm wrong.

This. Sigh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on September 01, 2009, 07:18:02 PM
Good result,but collocini who i dont rate at all but is 1/14 1st team players is possibly off to lazio  and i expect one more to go with nobody coming in which would leave us 12 1st team players,which means i'll be glad if we stay up.Hope i'm wrong.

This. Sigh.

The European transfer deadlines were yesterday at 5pm so he couldn't have gone anywhere by kick off last night. I think you are wrong to worry so much. 4 first teamers out last night and even though leicester are a promoted team I think they'll do well this year.

Keep the faith!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 01, 2009, 07:19:27 PM
Good result,but collocini who i dont rate at all but is 1/14 1st team players is possibly off to lazio  and i expect one more to go with nobody coming in which would leave us 12 1st team players,which means i'll be glad if we stay up.Hope i'm wrong.

This. Sigh.

The European transfer deadlines were yesterday at 5pm so he couldn't have gone anywhere by kick off last night. I think you are wrong to worry so much. 4 first teamers out last night and even though leicester are a promoted team I think they'll do well this year.

Keep the faith!


Of course


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 01, 2009, 07:57:51 PM
One player i could've been happy with leaving is geremi he's that bad but nevermind.Pleased nobody else left and didn't expect anyone in except who we got ""Peter Lovenkrands, signed on a free from nobody, Peter Lovenkrands" wonder if nufc.coms amended song will catch on lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on September 24, 2009, 11:16:25 AM
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5579645,00.html

Will Keegan still be held in such regard if he sends the club into admin?!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 24, 2009, 11:39:34 AM
He sure is held in high regard by many people that I know,very much doubt this would in cause a threat of administration either


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 24, 2009, 11:40:19 AM
But when were missing out on loan players because we won't pay wages,maybe


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on September 24, 2009, 08:00:33 PM
What a great article, based on bullshit though. How can he be awarded 'far in excess' of what his contract was worth. That's just crap. Then there is the actual transfer of cash, which I'm sure would be spread, but if not then we would have to not be able to pay (which we could, but it may make barclays more nervous) and have a whole process before administration came into it, which would probably involve Keegan having to front up the admin claim. Unlikely.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 24, 2009, 08:34:17 PM
I'm happy we got harewood in on loan should get us a few goals.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on September 24, 2009, 09:02:13 PM
I'm happy we got harewood in on loan should get us a few goals.

Massively unsure on this. I haven't seen much of him, or rather I must have seen him play half a dozen times and nothing has stuck out. The goal scoring record isn't exactly impressive. Ranger needs to be getting games, at least to the point when he has a game where he isn't the best player on the pitch!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 24, 2009, 09:44:58 PM
I think he's good enough to get goals in the championship,ranger seems decent but we need goals desperately in the team and harewood is the better player


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on September 26, 2009, 06:08:36 PM
I am enjoying this a lot, wpwp Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on September 26, 2009, 06:48:15 PM
Also enjoying it. The girl singing was an added bonus. Just need a Ranger goal and I'm over the moon. I know it's very early in the season but today's results have been near perfect - starting to open a little gap to 7th and een 3rd.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 27, 2009, 02:27:02 AM
I don't think anyone envisioned Chris Hughton doing this good a job pre-season given his two spells as caretaker manager, but he's installed some genuine team spirit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 27, 2009, 02:28:03 AM
I don't think anyone envisioned Chris Hughton doing this good a job pre-season given his two spells as caretaker manager, but he's installed some genuine team spirit.

But he's not a good manager and let's not kid ourselves that he is


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on September 27, 2009, 07:19:36 PM
I don't think anyone envisioned Chris Hughton doing this good a job pre-season given his two spells as caretaker manager, but he's installed some genuine team spirit.

But he's not a good manager and let's not kid ourselves that he is

Quite right, sack him and bring back Allardyce, Keegan or Shearer.

Hughton is winning far too many games !!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 27, 2009, 09:43:09 PM
I don't think anyone envisioned Chris Hughton doing this good a job pre-season given his two spells as caretaker manager, but he's installed some genuine team spirit.

But he's not a good manager and let's not kid ourselves that he is

Quite right, sack him and bring back Allardyce, Keegan or Shearer.

Hughton is winning far too many games !!

Kev,i'm not saying he hasn't done an excellent job he has but he isn't a manager i can quote him as saying on motd "i'm not a manager i'm a coach" he knew he was out of his depth last season it's easy to manage a club when things are roasy and your winnning, a manger comes into his own when you go on a losing streak and confidence is low that's when you need your manager,glenn roeder was exactly the same and i'm sure you can see that Chris hughton was brought in as a defensive coach and he's ended up as manager he's enjoy the limelight and wp him


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 29, 2009, 02:34:03 PM
Good article:

http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2009/09/i-love-kevin-keegan-love-him.html


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on September 29, 2009, 03:32:52 PM
Great article;

quote

I love him because of something Robson once wrote. “What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the television contracts, get-out clauses or the marketing departments or executive boxes. It’s the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city.” 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 02, 2009, 01:00:47 PM
LOL at the scaremongers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8286967.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 02, 2009, 05:39:09 PM
Slightly less than a liquidating £25m then.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 18, 2009, 09:22:51 AM
Remain unconvinced about Harewoods ability and commitment. Something missing from our team at the moment.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on October 18, 2009, 09:49:08 AM
You gave it a real good go in the second half, and being a forest fan, my nails are down to the knuckle.

I think Newcastle will be there at the end of the season, but you do need a consistent scorer to come to the fore.

For the record, thats one of the best 1st half performances  by Forest in a long long time.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 18, 2009, 02:40:40 PM
I think we'll see at a lot of teams playing their best stuff against us when we play away from home. For whatever reason player and fans are really up for it. I thought we'd done the hard part yesterday, and just fell a minute short at the nd of the first half. I think the Smith booking 2 mins in was a pretty big deal too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 19, 2009, 05:49:02 PM
Mike Ashley, you are one serious c***.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 27, 2009, 10:37:51 PM
2204: BREAKING NEWS Newcastle appoint Chris Hughton as manager on an 18-month contract. The club is no longer for sale.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 28, 2009, 02:16:50 AM
Hurrah, he's selling the naming rights to the stadium.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on October 28, 2009, 06:44:42 AM
Mike Ashley, you are one serious c***.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on October 28, 2009, 12:15:54 PM
Mondatoo will be devastated, he wanted Sheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarer or Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegan to get the job.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on October 28, 2009, 12:42:29 PM
Mondatoo will be devastated, he wanted Sheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarer or Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegan to get the job.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on October 29, 2009, 10:10:38 AM
Hurrah, he's selling the naming rights to the stadium.

Does this really matter?

Everyone, home fans, away fans and the media will just keep calling St James Park whatever stupid name is put to it.

In fact anyone who pays serious money to change the name needs their head examining.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 29, 2009, 11:50:53 AM
Hurrah, he's selling the naming rights to the stadium.

Does this really matter?

Everyone, home fans, away fans and the media will just keep calling St James Park whatever stupid name is put to it.

In fact anyone who pays serious money to change the name needs their head examining.

Exactly what i'm thinking pretty pointless really

Mike Ashley, you are one serious c***.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 29, 2009, 11:52:07 AM
Mondatoo will be devastated, he wanted Sheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarer or Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegan to get the job.

LOL,any actual manager would've been good,guess a cheap coach who will do what he's told and is a decent bloke will do for now


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on November 04, 2009, 01:37:23 PM
really catchy stadium name

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8342406.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on November 04, 2009, 01:47:06 PM
According to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8330033.stm

The fans trust has £25 mill to their name.

Why didn't they stump up the cash to save the stadium's name?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Nem on November 04, 2009, 04:44:03 PM
(http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article203465.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/GreggsSteakBake.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Colchester Kev on November 04, 2009, 04:46:55 PM
Careful Nem ... Naming rights are up for grabs at our new home as well ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 10, 2009, 08:26:47 PM
NUST attempting to buy out the club in a huge grassroots policy. Looks unlikely to happen but Ashley really has united everyone against him right now so maybe it can work...

http://www.nust.org.uk/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 11, 2009, 08:09:30 PM
If we cant offload players this summer we really should absolutely piss that league if those that stay can play to 60% of their ability. Having said that, we also wouldnt have gone down if they could have done that.

Lets see what happens anyway. Things are very rarely easy with NUFC, so its unlikely to be coasting at the top of the league all season like we somehow did last time.

Hold....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on December 20, 2009, 01:47:34 PM
alan smith. 86 league appearances without a goal. how does a striker with a record that a 'keeper would be ashamed of still get to start games?
I really don't get it


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on December 20, 2009, 02:03:22 PM
alan smith. 86 league appearances without a goal. how does a striker with a record that a 'keeper would be ashamed of still get to start games?
I really don't get it

he plays in midfield


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on December 20, 2009, 02:23:42 PM
alan smith. 86 league appearances without a goal. how does a striker with a record that a 'keeper would be ashamed of still get to start games?
I really don't get it

he plays in midfield

ok, but he's a converted striker, I'd be expecting goals from him as a manager

then again I've just checked his stats and he's always had a poor goal scoring record. for some reason I thought he used to score a lot


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 20, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
Alan Smith has been up there as player of the season, and previously I couldn't stand him. Nolan's goals probably edge him out just. He isn't in the team to score goals so why would a mange judge him on that?! Look at Mascherano or Mackele's record and compare to that.   


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on December 20, 2009, 07:08:55 PM
is he playing the makelele role then?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on December 22, 2009, 12:26:01 PM
Yeah. Probably moves less than him actually!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on December 22, 2009, 12:47:03 PM
ahh, fair enough, that'd explain his record then. I assumed when he went to mid it was still an attacking role but that was kinda based on me wrongly believing that he used to score a lot


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on December 22, 2009, 05:27:19 PM
[ ] Wednesday are going to smash you lot on Boxing Day


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 06, 2010, 01:47:18 AM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee GTFI,big result for us tonight much needed as we've played poor recently

Push on plz


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2010, 02:51:38 AM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee confidence booster. 6 new signing started today, none are good enough for prem probs, but we will worry about that if/when we get promoted.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 06, 2010, 12:14:42 PM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee confidence booster. 6 new signing started today, none are good enough for prem probs, but we will worry about that if/when we get promoted.

Ye we'd get abs crushed in the prem with current squad just got to hope that idiot gtfo at the price he wants if we get promoted ,ONE TIME PLZ!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 14, 2010, 11:36:24 AM
We were absolutely awful yesterday. We lack continuity and flair. We have far too many Nicky Butts and Alan Smith's we need someone who can put his foot on the ball and spray it from right to left, we just go backwards and then long. Kevin Nolan is abs awful, pls get rid in summer.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 14, 2010, 02:00:36 PM
Kevin Nolan is abs awful, pls get rid in summer.

?   Player of the Championship up until xmas no?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 14, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
Kevin Nolan is abs awful, pls get rid in summer.

?   Player of the Championship up until xmas no?

Yeah,for me Nolan's one of only two players,Enrique being the other who are good enough to play in a prem team,none of the rest are.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 14, 2010, 02:30:04 PM
Kevin Nolan is abs awful, pls get rid in summer.

?   Player of the Championship up until xmas no?

Yeah,for me Nolan's one of only two players,Enrique being the other who are good enough to play in a prem team,none of the rest are.

Jonas Gutierrez?
Andy Carroll?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 14, 2010, 02:33:18 PM
Kevin Nolan is abs awful, pls get rid in summer.

?   Player of the Championship up until xmas no?

Yeah,for me Nolan's one of only two players,Enrique being the other who are good enough to play in a prem team,none of the rest are.

Jonas Gutierrez?
Andy Carroll?

Gutierrez is really bad imo, liked him at first as he's comfortable on the ball but his end product is so bad it's unreal,how he makes the Argentina squad i will never know.Carroll  does have potential to be but he's missing a lot of skills to make it in the prem imo he very much reminds me of Ameobi.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 15, 2010, 12:03:29 AM
Trust me Nolan is awful. He did well at start of season scoring goals, but now clubs are aware of hi they mark him and he doesnt offer anything. He is farrrrrr too slow/immobile. He hasnt scored in 2010 yet.

Collocini is premiership class. Enrique is incred. Steven Taylor is good for defensive cover in premiership. Andy Carroll has lots of potential and can be just as effective as Kevin Davies and is probably more talented.

Thing with Gutierez is he is an outlet, when we are under the cosh he will run with the ball and keep it. His final product is awful but I think he could be turned into a premier league right back. As a winger his quality isnt good enough, but in the championship he gives us enough. In the premiership you simply have to take your chances.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on February 15, 2010, 12:24:00 AM
Collocini oozes class, he is walking through this season.

What about Steve Harper Monda & Pleno, the guys a genius.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 15, 2010, 12:32:12 AM
Harps is a genuis?

He is a good championship keeper, mainly for shot stopping. He has so much experience mainly with the club, he knows what it takes to play for the club can help the younger defenders etc etc, but he is abit old now, he doesnt come for crosses and can sometimes be abit too static. I think he will be a great coach for the next 10-15 years, probably a goalkeeping coach.

Tim Krul is an amazing young talent, Dutch u21 keeper and we have turned down bids from Chelsea, arse etc etc, and I think if we get to the premiership he will be the number 1.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 15, 2010, 12:45:31 AM
Collocini oozes class, he is walking through this season.

What about Steve Harper Monda & Pleno, the guys a genius.

He oozes class in the Championship yeah,prem he was out of his depth may have been a confidence thing but i'm not to confident.

Steve Harper has no command of his box and is a very poor man's version of Given.

You fancy settling on that Owen bet :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on February 15, 2010, 07:52:37 AM
I'll admit i've only seen Newcastle on the telly but Collocini looks dodgy even in the championship.
He spends games kicking strikers and anyone with half a yard of pace seems to cause him trouble.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on February 15, 2010, 12:00:54 PM
You fancy settling on that Owen bet :)

I doubt it mate, im looking good. What were you thinking, PM if you like.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/club_stats/default.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 15, 2010, 11:56:11 PM
You fancy settling on that Owen bet :)

I doubt it mate, im looking good. What were you thinking, PM if you like.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/club_stats/default.stm


Haha,it was a decent bet imo,sigh


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 05, 2010, 09:47:12 PM
Congratulations on promotion. Brighter times at St James' and i was happy to see it. Hopefully this season will have done you good in the long run.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 05, 2010, 10:06:41 PM
Fun night, didn't think it was a pen tbh. Squad needs improving now. lets gogogoogog premiership.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on April 05, 2010, 11:24:45 PM
Trust me Nolan is awful. He did well at start of season scoring goals, but now clubs are aware of hi they mark him and he doesnt offer anything. He is farrrrrr too slow/immobile. He hasnt scored in 2010 yet.



voted player of the championship..scored a cracking goal and winner today, we missing something?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 06, 2010, 02:21:44 AM
Trust me Nolan is awful. He did well at start of season scoring goals, but now clubs are aware of hi they mark him and he doesnt offer anything. He is farrrrrr too slow/immobile. He hasnt scored in 2010 yet.



voted player of the championship..scored a cracking goal and winner today, we missing something?

lol no idea how he got player of the championship, surprised he didnt break his back when he scored the overhead kick as he is least flexible guy in world. He has been awesome in dressing room though, along with Harper they sorted everything out after we got beat 6-0 by Leyrnt (sp) Orient in pre season. But if he plays for us in Premiership, we will 100% go down he is tez.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on April 06, 2010, 02:06:05 PM
Those player of the year awards are a bit of a joke as they are pretty much who is the most well known player in any league who plays for a big club. As the main bulk of any players votes are from (a) Supporters of that team (b) 442 magazine readers who watch very little if any of that player during the season.

Beckford was league1 player of the year, he would do well to do get in the top 10 of best performers in the league if it was done on merit. Lambert, Lallana, Bailey, Kisnorbo, Holt, Hoolahan, Abdou, Austin would be all players I would have ahead of him.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on April 06, 2010, 06:49:19 PM
Agree, although 1st half season Beckford was on fire, this half i want him to burn  in hell and never play for us again.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Murph1984 on April 06, 2010, 08:51:18 PM
Harps is a genuis?

He is a good championship keeper, mainly for shot stopping. He has so much experience mainly with the club, he knows what it takes to play for the club can help the younger defenders etc etc, but he is abit old now, he doesnt come for crosses and can sometimes be abit too static. I think he will be a great coach for the next 10-15 years, probably a goalkeeping coach.

Tim Krul is an amazing young talent, Dutch u21 keeper and we have turned down bids from Chelsea, arse etc etc, and I think if we get to the premiership he will be the number 1.

Why on god's earth would he suddenly become #1 in the premiership while not being so in the championship?

I'd say Krul is 3rd in the pecking order,Fraser Forster would be ahead of him if he stays at the club next season instead of going out on loan again.

As for Nolan,he might not offer much else but he grabs a goal here and there,he's scored some big goals this season and having a midfielder who can grab 7/8 in the permiership is so valuable it is unreal,if he can get around that it would be enough to keep you up providing all of the strikers don't go totally goalshy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 07, 2010, 03:20:37 PM
Enrique is my Toon player of the season, he just is a class apart. Not often I'd ever say that about a left back and a Newcastle defender at that...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 07, 2010, 05:49:22 PM
Enrique is my Toon player of the season, he just is a class apart. Not often I'd ever say that about a left back and a Newcastle defender at that...

this. Be hard to keep him, he is actually very very good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 09, 2010, 07:34:20 PM
I love a happy ending. Job well done but only just begun i think.

As for Enrique i'd be surprised if anyone who could match his wages would want him. Much improved this ear but gets himself in massive amounts of trouble and a lot of the stuff that looks good (using pace and a bit of strength) comes about because he's given it away or got caught out of position.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on April 13, 2010, 03:02:24 PM
Just leaving for the Madjeski stadium now,another one off the league ground list,well replaced if you know what i mean.

Howay the lads.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 13, 2010, 05:19:44 PM
Just leaving for the Madjeski stadium now,another one off the league ground list,well replaced if you know what i mean.

Howay the lads.

I got chucked out of there after less than a minute of kick off. such a joke. glgllgglgl Newcastle and have a good trip.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 13, 2010, 09:23:34 PM
Ipswich game is a sellout already I'm kinda suprised at that,And wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 2-0 gogo Kevin Nolan

PS Pleno you get my PM the other day ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 13, 2010, 10:16:09 PM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ship, one more points and we're champs oioioioioioioi

yes got it, msn refusing to work atm, will pm u later/try and fix msn.

nolans still wank though


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on April 13, 2010, 11:31:39 PM
2 more goals to your shitest player :) good result tonight tho.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on April 19, 2010, 09:59:29 PM
Its easy to say now that with our players we have done what we should have done, but at the start of the season most people had us as having more chance of going down than going back up. A really solid job, but clearly work to be done this summer.  I still believe in the core of that squad being comfortable at mid premier league level - I watched Fulham v Wolves at the weekend and it was absolute tosh.

Well tomorrow is the first day of the rest of my life.... well something like that anyway. Room is 80% packed, hire van is booked for the morning to move me south, and new job will be starting on Monday. Looking forward to it, but its a pretty big deal for me, so there are nerves etc to go with it.

Football wise scanning the fixtures this morning was interesting. We really need sorting out with an owner, a manager and do what needs to be done on the playing side too, all asap. worrying I look at that fixture list and think, that seems like a tough game. Not sure what that is all about. If we cant offload players this summer we really should absolutely piss that league if those that stay can play to 60% of their ability. Having said that, we also wouldnt have gone down if they could have done that.

Lets see what happens anyway. Things are very rarely easy with NUFC, so its unlikely to be coasting at the top of the league all season like we somehow did last time.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on August 22, 2010, 07:17:39 PM
Trust me Nolan is awful. He did well at start of season scoring goals, but now clubs are aware of hi they mark him and he doesnt offer anything. He is farrrrrr too slow/immobile. He hasnt scored in 2010 yet.

hes shit innit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Murph1984 on August 22, 2010, 07:20:09 PM
Harps is a genuis?

He is a good championship keeper, mainly for shot stopping. He has so much experience mainly with the club, he knows what it takes to play for the club can help the younger defenders etc etc, but he is abit old now, he doesnt come for crosses and can sometimes be abit too static. I think he will be a great coach for the next 10-15 years, probably a goalkeeping coach.

Tim Krul is an amazing young talent, Dutch u21 keeper and we have turned down bids from Chelsea, arse etc etc, and I think if we get to the premiership he will be the number 1.

Why on god's earth would he suddenly become #1 in the premiership while not being so in the championship?

I'd say Krul is 3rd in the pecking order,Fraser Forster would be ahead of him if he stays at the club next season instead of going out on loan again.

As for Nolan,he might not offer much else but he grabs a goal here and there,he's scored some big goals this season and having a midfielder who can grab 7/8 in the permiership is so valuable it is unreal,if he can get around that it would be enough to keep you up providing all of the strikers don't go totally goalshy.

Just sayin...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 22, 2010, 08:04:08 PM
Trust me Nolan is awful. He did well at start of season scoring goals, but now clubs are aware of hi they mark him and he doesnt offer anything. He is farrrrrr too slow/immobile. He hasnt scored in 2010 yet.

hes shit innit.

it is.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 22, 2010, 08:06:01 PM
Harps is a genuis?

He is a good championship keeper, mainly for shot stopping. He has so much experience mainly with the club, he knows what it takes to play for the club can help the younger defenders etc etc, but he is abit old now, he doesnt come for crosses and can sometimes be abit too static. I think he will be a great coach for the next 10-15 years, probably a goalkeeping coach.

Tim Krul is an amazing young talent, Dutch u21 keeper and we have turned down bids from Chelsea, arse etc etc, and I think if we get to the premiership he will be the number 1.

Why on god's earth would he suddenly become #1 in the premiership while not being so in the championship?

I'd say Krul is 3rd in the pecking order,Fraser Forster would be ahead of him if he stays at the club next season instead of going out on loan again.

As for Nolan,he might not offer much else but he grabs a goal here and there,he's scored some big goals this season and having a midfielder who can grab 7/8 in the permiership is so valuable it is unreal,if he can get around that it would be enough to keep you up providing all of the strikers don't go totally goalshy.

Just sayin...

lol nolan was awful against Man Yoo and I didnt think he was spectacular today. Took his goals well but wern't exactly hard finishes, the guy is far too slow.

As for the Krul bold bit, Harper is abs awful, giving away a stupid penalty today and was tez against Man Yoo. Pleaseeeee get rid.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on September 16, 2010, 08:01:33 PM
For you guys, ''an evening with Alan Shearer'' on 5live now


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 16, 2010, 08:22:22 PM
For you guys, ''an evening with Alan Shearer'' on 5live now

Cheers,listening to it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 17, 2010, 11:00:38 AM
thoughts from people who listened?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 17, 2010, 11:03:26 AM
thoughts from people who listened?

It was ok.He said he was told the Newcastle job was his last summer then basically never heard from them again.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on September 18, 2010, 05:28:31 PM
thoughts from people who listened?

It was ok.He said he was told the Newcastle job was his last summer then basically never heard from them again.

Do you believe him?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 18, 2010, 08:16:19 PM
thoughts from people who listened?

It was ok.He said he was told the Newcastle job was his last summer then basically never heard from them again.

Do you believe him?

Eh,yeah why would he lie ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on September 18, 2010, 10:11:18 PM
thoughts from people who listened?

It was ok.He said he was told the Newcastle job was his last summer then basically never heard from them again.

Do you believe him?

Eh,yeah why would he lie ?

I dunno, I just reckon there's probably two sides to the story and never liked Shearer


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 18, 2010, 11:07:28 PM
thoughts from people who listened?

It was ok.He said he was told the Newcastle job was his last summer then basically never heard from them again.

Do you believe him?

Eh,yeah why would he lie ?

I dunno, I just reckon there's probably two sides to the story and never liked Shearer

I'm not actually a big fan myself tbh but it does sound about right for how the current regime would behave so would expect it's the case.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 19, 2010, 12:04:32 PM
ben arfa. wowwww


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Baron on September 20, 2010, 02:26:03 PM
ben arfa. wowwww

If someone could harness this guy's talent he would be immense. Amazed he's never played under Wenger tbh. Van Persie was going the same way until he went to Arsenal.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on September 25, 2010, 09:43:01 PM
Its going to be an early start for me as it is a 1.30 kick off, but will be travelling up to Manchester next Sunday. Has the makings of a good game.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 26, 2010, 01:37:09 AM
Its going to be an early start for me as it is a 1.30 kick off, but will be travelling up to Manchester next Sunday. Has the makings of a good game.

Confused.com


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on September 26, 2010, 03:26:55 AM
Its going to be an early start for me as it is a 1.30 kick off, but will be travelling up to Manchester next Sunday. Has the makings of a good game.

Confused.com


3 October 2010
            13:30
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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on September 26, 2010, 09:46:29 PM
Indeed, why confused?  :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 26, 2010, 10:54:54 PM
Indeed, why confused?  :)

LOL,I don't even remember posting that,I was pretty smashed.Sigh at today ffs,so obv with us.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 28, 2010, 09:34:02 AM
Nolan proving once again he isn't to the standard required in the premiership. Should play Gutierez on the left with Ben Arfa off Carroll, or alternatively play two upfront with Lovenkrands paired with Carroll.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 28, 2010, 09:36:30 AM
Nolan proving once again he isn't to the standard required in the premiership. Should play Gutierez on the left with Ben Arfa off Carroll, or alternatively play two upfront with Lovenkrands paired with Carroll.

Do you think Lovenkrands is good enough for the Prem ? I definitely don't.

Also Nolan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Routledge >>>>>>> Gutierrez.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 28, 2010, 09:47:04 AM
Nolan proving once again he isn't to the standard required in the premiership. Should play Gutierez on the left with Ben Arfa off Carroll, or alternatively play two upfront with Lovenkrands paired with Carroll.

Do you think Lovenkrands is good enough for the Prem ? I definitely don't.

Also Nolan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Routledge >>>>>>> Gutierrez.

Def think he contributes more than Nolan. Think both of the above contribute alot more too. Routledge is a poor version of Lennon granted but can still cause defenders trouble and is pacey/good crossing. Gutierrez is never going to have an amazing end product, but he offers pace, strength, power and can ease the pressure off you by keeping the ball, also has a really good understanding with Enrique. In the championship Nolan is good, he can beat players, will get 15 goals a season and is generally one of the better players. In the premiership he's totally out his depth, I have a few friends who are Bolton fans and were ecstatic to see the back of him. I love the fact he's brought a winning mentality into the dressing room and alongside Harper/Smith etc have really turned the club around from the Martins/Bramble days, but we have 5/6 really good young players coming through and we need to give them a chance and really push on for a top half finish this season. (Which I def think is available)

On a side note Tiote looked class again on Saturday and IMO Barton was the best player on the pitch so we def have the core of a good team with those 2, Carroll and Collocini.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 28, 2010, 09:50:52 AM
I agree with you on Tiote,he looks very good.Barton has been decent this season tbf to him but disagree about Collocini i'm not a fan at all.Hope Carroll carrys on getting goals but I'm not going to go along with the bs of him being Eng class and a top prem player just because he's scored a couple of goals.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 28, 2010, 10:19:08 AM
In his first season Collocini was definitely suspect, but I think that's quite common in the premiership for a foreign player. Henry etc. Last season he was very good, probably the second best player in the championship behind Enrique, and IMO he's continued his form this season. Know that he goes to David Llyod reguarly so starting to beef up and is def up to match pace. Think one of the reasons he has improved so much is the introduction of Williamson who really has been a bargain buy, really underrated and I doubt many people on here know much about him.

Agree about Carroll, not sure if he's a 20 goal a season man, but you know he  will put 100% in and always be a handful.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 30, 2010, 03:48:02 PM
Big game on Sat, think it will be 0-0-1-1 or 1-0 to City.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on October 04, 2010, 06:54:41 AM
Big game on Sat, think it will be 0-0-1-1 or 1-0 to City.

Close, but not quite. 2-1 thansk to Johnson. Why wasn't Carroll starting yesterday?  ;carlocitrone;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 04, 2010, 07:41:16 AM
GG ben arfaaaa


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on October 31, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
Nolan proving once again he isn't to the standard required in the premiership. Should play Gutierez on the left with Ben Arfa off Carroll, or alternatively play two upfront with Lovenkrands paired with Carroll.

Do you think Lovenkrands is good enough for the Prem ? I definitely don't.

Also Nolan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Routledge >>>>>>> Gutierrez.

wonder if the top  goalscorer in the league is winning over pleno yet? who would have him 3rd choice in his team..


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
What did Elmander do to Newcastle to justify all the violence aimed at him yesterday?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 05, 2011, 09:55:22 PM
http://theseventytwo.com/football-league/championship/2011/01/05/leon-best-an-apology/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 05, 2011, 10:16:17 PM
http://theseventytwo.com/football-league/championship/2011/01/05/leon-best-an-apology/

Quote
If Leon Best is capable of a Premier League hat-trick, who knows what we can all achieve in our time on this planet?

:D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 06, 2011, 12:56:53 AM
Two huge results they where for us.I was worried we where getting dragged right into the relegation battle but we are well clear for now and don't really see how we could go down now,famous last words lol.Bring on the Mackems for another beaten.

Tiote and Barton are both absolutely class,Barton is playing the best football he ever has or at least for us.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 06, 2011, 01:15:13 AM
Two huge results they where for us.I was worried we where getting dragged right into the relegation battle but we are well clear for now and don't really see how we could go down now,famous last words lol.Bring on the Mackems for another beaten.

Tiote and Barton are both absolutely class,Barton is playing the best football he ever has or at least for us.

Agreed, I think if we can keep all our players through January and the summer then European placing next season will be an actual target (never thought I'd say that again). Definitely need another striker and more strength in depth throughout the team though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 06, 2011, 01:17:39 AM
Two huge results they where for us.I was worried we where getting dragged right into the relegation battle but we are well clear for now and don't really see how we could go down now,famous last words lol.Bring on the Mackems for another beaten.

Tiote and Barton are both absolutely class,Barton is playing the best football he ever has or at least for us.

Agreed, I think if we can keep all our players through January and the summer then European placing next season will be an actual target (never thought I'd say that again). Definitely need another striker and more strength in depth throughout the team though.

There was talk about Bentley and Keane coming,if we got both them and bought a rb I think we'd have a pretty good 1st eleven.We really do need a rb.Glad to see we've got Ben Arfa on a permenant deal as long as he fully recovers as he looked very good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 06, 2011, 01:18:24 AM
Two huge results they where for us.I was worried we where getting dragged right into the relegation battle but we are well clear for now and don't really see how we could go down now,famous last words lol.Bring on the Mackems for another beaten.

Tiote and Barton are both absolutely class,Barton is playing the best football he ever has or at least for us.

Agreed, I think if we can keep all our players through January and the summer then European placing next season will be an actual target (never thought I'd say that again). Definitely need another striker and more strength in depth throughout the team though.

There was talk about Bentley and Keane coming,if we got both them and bought a rb I think we'd have a pretty good 1st eleven.We really do need a rb.Glad to see we've got Ben Arfa on a permenant deal as long as he fully recovers as he looked very good.

Keane is apparently off to Birmingham.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 06, 2011, 01:20:49 AM
Two huge results they where for us.I was worried we where getting dragged right into the relegation battle but we are well clear for now and don't really see how we could go down now,famous last words lol.Bring on the Mackems for another beaten.

Tiote and Barton are both absolutely class,Barton is playing the best football he ever has or at least for us.

Agreed, I think if we can keep all our players through January and the summer then European placing next season will be an actual target (never thought I'd say that again). Definitely need another striker and more strength in depth throughout the team though.

There was talk about Bentley and Keane coming,if we got both them and bought a rb I think we'd have a pretty good 1st eleven.We really do need a rb.Glad to see we've got Ben Arfa on a permenant deal as long as he fully recovers as he looked very good.

Keane is apparently off to Birmingham.

Not too disappointing when he's the wrong side of 30.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: LeedsRhodesy on January 06, 2011, 02:47:12 PM



So happy that Peter Taylor turned you guys down for the number 2 job


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 06, 2011, 05:43:04 PM
I wouldn't be too confident quite yet of avoiding the relegation fight.

We're in 8th place and only 8 points above 20th. 22 games into the season that is quite weird.

We've had some good results and played some good football but this is Newcastle we're talking about. I wouldn't rule out anything quite yet...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 08, 2011, 03:57:13 PM
Harris Vukic signed a new 5 year contract apparently. This kid could be something special in a couple of years.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 08, 2011, 07:28:47 PM
That was one of the worst performances I've ever seen.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ACE2M on January 12, 2011, 05:22:51 PM
how many headed goals has carrol scored in the epl so far this year?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 15, 2011, 03:45:40 AM
I wouldn't be too confident quite yet of avoiding the relegation fight.

We're in 8th place and only 8 points above 20th. 22 games into the season that is quite weird.

We've had some good results and played some good football but this is Newcastle we're talking about. I wouldn't rule out anything quite yet...

Why do you support Newcastle?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 16, 2011, 01:59:49 PM
I'll be the first to let out an almighty sigh. :(

Sunderland were so lol bad today.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 16, 2011, 02:59:21 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOM :d:d:d


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 16, 2011, 06:25:44 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOM :d:d:d

LOL R u real ?? 1 point out of 6 sure is something to shout about,joker.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 30, 2011, 01:14:38 PM
stephen ireland a great signing for you guys surely?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 10, 2011, 01:11:09 PM
Shefki Kuqi?!?!?!!?!!?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pokerfan on February 12, 2011, 09:43:49 PM
Shefki Kuqi?!?!?!!?!!?
Was debating signing for us us 2 weeks ago lol.  (League 1 Huddersfield btw)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 16, 2011, 11:48:53 AM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ??


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 16, 2011, 11:50:12 AM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ???

What price you want?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 16, 2011, 12:05:47 PM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ???

What price you want?

What do you think is a fair price ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 16, 2011, 12:09:02 PM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ???

What price you want?

What do you think is a fair price ?

Newcastle are 2 points behind, with a better GD, Sun's next 4 games are away to Everton/Man City/Arsenal, and home to Liverpool.

13/10 maybe?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 16, 2011, 12:13:08 PM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ???

What price you want?

What do you think is a fair price ?

Newcastle are 2 points behind, with a better GD, Sun's next 4 games are away to Everton/Man City/Arsenal, and home to Liverpool.

13/10 maybe?

How much will you lay it for ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 16, 2011, 12:18:50 PM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ???

What price you want?

What do you think is a fair price ?

Newcastle are 2 points behind, with a better GD, Sun's next 4 games are away to Everton/Man City/Arsenal, and home to Liverpool.

13/10 maybe?

How much will you lay it for ?

£100, for you to win £130?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 16, 2011, 12:27:48 PM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ???

What price you want?

What do you think is a fair price ?

Newcastle are 2 points behind, with a better GD, Sun's next 4 games are away to Everton/Man City/Arsenal, and home to Liverpool.

13/10 maybe?

How much will you lay it for ?

£100, for you to win £130?

Booked.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 16, 2011, 12:29:43 PM
gogogogogogo Barca/Mackems!!  ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 16, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
gogogogogogo Barca/Mackems!!  ;)

£30 profit coming my way.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 25, 2011, 08:39:59 PM
Obv contracts don't mean much in football anymore, but this is great for us and hopefully Enrique and Barton followsuit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9407235.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 19, 2011, 10:01:32 AM
Who we think we will sign in summer? WHo will leave? Predictions for next season?

Goalkeeper:

Krul/Foster both getting more established and should be ready for next season.

Defence of:


? ----collocini ---- williamson   --enrique

Looks solid.

Midfield of:

Barton -- Tiote ---- Ireland --- Ben Arfa

Looks really classy.

Strikeforce:

?   -   ?

Needs improving.

Any whispers/wishes?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 19, 2011, 10:05:13 AM
We also have a talented Dan Gosling to come back.

Bench of Nolan, Steven Taylor, Harper, Shola,  Lualua (very talented/inform) Gutierez.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: celtic on April 19, 2011, 12:20:37 PM
Forster to stay where he is please.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2011, 12:27:36 PM
Really hope Forster gets his chance otherwise he'll live.

We need a rb as everyone we've got is worse than terrible, Williamson isn't good enough so need cb to pair with Col, Enrique probs away so needs replaced.

Barton could also be away but hopefully not. Ireland will be going back to Villa hopefully not to return. Get an Attacking cm and the midfield would look pretty strong.

Agree we need 2 strikers, minimum. Hope we go for proven prem quality like Crouch then gamble on French players that are 90% gtd to fail or want to leave within a year.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 19, 2011, 12:30:27 PM
Would love to see us buy Niko Krankjac (sp), Darren Gibson, Carlos Vela.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ruholding on April 19, 2011, 02:04:35 PM
Would love to see us buy Niko Krankjac (sp), Darren Gibson, Carlos Vela.

i think you should play the 10-0-0 formation tonight - il take a 0-0 draw

ruholding (gooner) obv


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 20, 2011, 09:44:12 AM
Fantastic performance last night, Collocini, Enrique and Tiote are so classy. If we had any strikers we would have won I think.

Also diagf Allardyce you C**t


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ruholding on April 20, 2011, 11:43:19 AM
Would love to see us buy Niko Krankjac (sp), Darren Gibson, Carlos Vela.

i think you should play the 10-0-0 formation tonight - il take a 0-0 draw

ruholding (gooner) obv

top boys toon army


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on April 20, 2011, 12:51:19 PM
Would love to see us buy Niko Krankjac (sp), Darren Gibson, Carlos Vela.

You can have Gibson - massive failure to fulfil early potential.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on April 20, 2011, 01:30:35 PM
Would love to see us buy Niko Krankjac (sp), Darren Gibson, Carlos Vela.

You can have Gibson - massive failure to fulfil early potential.

Was thinking this as well, apart from scoring the odd good goal he aint really very good, He never does anything for Ireland.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 20, 2011, 11:23:28 PM
Doyle or Rodallega if their clubs go down?


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Post by: sweet potata! on April 20, 2011, 11:28:07 PM
Doyle or Rodallega if their clubs go down?

 I think Doyler would be a good signing, 100% effort every game a real nuisance to defenders I would Imagine, also he's very good in the air.

Rodallega obv is more flash and has brilliance in him, but through a whole season I think you would get more from Doyler IMO


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 22, 2011, 11:00:07 PM
Anyone want to give me action on us finishing ahead of the Mackems this season ?

Buzz ???

What price you want?

What do you think is a fair price ?

Newcastle are 2 points behind, with a better GD, Sun's next 4 games are away to Everton/Man City/Arsenal, and home to Liverpool.

13/10 maybe?

How much will you lay it for ?

£100, for you to win £130?

Booked.


FMEL, run worse much.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on June 11, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
the toon have just signed Yohan Cabaye, does anyone know much about him? played a few internationals for France is about all the info i have


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 16, 2011, 12:52:40 AM
Standard pre season friendly for us....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14170365.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on July 16, 2011, 01:10:43 AM
Standard pre season friendly for us....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14170365.stm
better footage on sky. few daft lads in colours start dancing with the players then a few casuals join in. 5 year  banning orders for all i would no doubt.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on July 16, 2011, 02:04:39 AM
What do you reckon to Newcastle Monda? Looking at getting involved in the match bet on them V Sunderland this season. Just think you're a striker short at the moment. Even a Dudley Campbell would make me get involved. Have you been linked with anyone since the lad from PSG?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 16, 2011, 02:18:51 AM
What do you reckon to Newcastle Monda? Looking at getting involved in the match bet on them V Sunderland this season. Just think you're a striker short at the moment. Even a Dudley Campbell would make me get involved. Have you been linked with anyone since the lad from PSG?

No names being mentioned, at present I wouldn't bet on us to finish ahead of them. Pardew says there in negs for two people but he maybe fos. Expect Enrique to leave so it'll be important we get a decent replacement but nobody as good as him will come here. I don't expect us to buy a well know/big name striker, we won't pay high wages for anyone. I wish we'd go for Daniel Sturridge or Defoe but it ain't going to happen, esp not Defoe.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on July 19, 2011, 03:19:23 AM
Ba is a fantastic finisher I think.

Can't see you doing too badly tbh...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 19, 2011, 03:38:48 AM
I think we will finish top 8. Our team currently looks like

GK - Krul Really good young goalkeeper.

RB - Taylor (Good loyal defender, gets a goal or two)
CB - Williamson (No-nonsense defender, doesnt make many mistakes)
CB - Collocini (New captain, absolutely awesome for last 24 months, arguably our best player)
LB - Enrique (Reports that Barca, Liverpool and City all interested. Best LB in premiership last year, lightening fast and so composed)

DM - Tiote Labellled the new Essien, wanted by Chelsea, but we got a 5 year contract. Breaks down everything and distribution is great
CM - Cabaye New signing, described as similar to Xavi, he's awesome on the ball and Tiote/Cabaye, should work like Xavi/Busquets

RCM - Barton  Fantastic delivery, settled for first time in his career. Loves the club, loves the fans and always gives a 8/10 performance
LCM - Marveux  New french winger, blistering pace and shot, really exciting player that will get fans off their seats

AM - Ben Arfa Everyone in the city is talking about this guy. He was amazing against EVerton last season before Nigel De Jong broke his leg. Fast, skillful, direct, will cause defenders major problems

ST - Ba Absolute animal, 6ft3, huge and strong, defenders are going to shit theirselves. He's great in the air too and as Horneis said is a great finisher

Squad:

We have Steve Harper and Fraser Forster also going for the number 1 jersey.
Dan Gosling was signed last year and will almost be like a new signing, really looking forward to him trying to get into the first 11. Can play in the middle, on the right or at right back
Jonas Guttierez - Arguably one of our best players last year. So strong, so fast but poor end product, really good for away games as he keeps the balls and great on the counter attack
Ryan Taylor - Versatile set piece specialist
Danny Guthrie/Wayne Routledge/Alan Smith - Great Squad players
Leon Best/Shola/Lovenkrands - Decent competition for Ba.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on July 20, 2011, 09:21:02 AM
Thank you for lua lua. Guy is a sicko, lightening, built like a brick, amazing cross, and most powerful shot you will see.

Just like gus said in his interview "all I ask is for the players to give the ball to lua lua"


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 20, 2011, 09:36:18 AM
yeh hes incred, probably be a big player for us next year. gl in the championship


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on July 21, 2011, 10:37:16 AM
Gg arfa


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 21, 2011, 03:51:16 PM
Gg arfa

NUFC.com says he had an X-ray after the game and he's fine and his tour isn't over, more BBC bs I hope.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on July 21, 2011, 08:02:44 PM
hope so! don't wanna lose lua lua already :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ryecarr01 on July 22, 2011, 05:48:24 PM
I think we will finish top 8. Our team currently looks like

GK - Krul Really good young goalkeeper.

RB - Taylor (Good loyal defender, gets a goal or two)
CB - Williamson (No-nonsense defender, doesnt make many mistakes)
CB - Collocini (New captain, absolutely awesome for last 24 months, arguably our best player)
LB - Enrique (Reports that Barca, Liverpool and City all interested. Best LB in premiership last year, lightening fast and so composed)

DM - Tiote Labellled the new Essien, wanted by Chelsea, but we got a 5 year contract. Breaks down everything and distribution is great
CM - Cabaye New signing, described as similar to Xavi, he's awesome on the ball and Tiote/Cabaye, should work like Xavi/Busquets

RCM - Barton  Fantastic delivery, settled for first time in his career. Loves the club, loves the fans and always gives a 8/10 performance
LCM - Marveux  New french winger, blistering pace and shot, really exciting player that will get fans off their seats

AM - Ben Arfa Everyone in the city is talking about this guy. He was amazing against EVerton last season before Nigel De Jong broke his leg. Fast, skillful, direct, will cause defenders major problems

ST - Ba Absolute animal, 6ft3, huge and strong, defenders are going to shit theirselves. He's great in the air too and as Horneis said is a great finisher

Squad:

We have Steve Harper and Fraser Forster also going for the number 1 jersey.
Dan Gosling was signed last year and will almost be like a new signing, really looking forward to him trying to get into the first 11. Can play in the middle, on the right or at right back
Jonas Guttierez - Arguably one of our best players last year. So strong, so fast but poor end product, really good for away games as he keeps the balls and great on the counter attack
Ryan Taylor - Versatile set piece specialist
Danny Guthrie/Wayne Routledge/Alan Smith - Great Squad players
Leon Best/Shola/Lovenkrands - Decent competition for Ba.

lol biased much??
"similar to xavi"
"labellled the new essien"
"defenders are going to shit themselves"

i admire your passion but think your analysis of the squad is abioptomistic to say the least


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 22, 2011, 05:50:48 PM
I think we will finish top 8. Our team currently looks like

GK - Krul Really good young goalkeeper.

RB - Taylor (Good loyal defender, gets a goal or two)
CB - Williamson (No-nonsense defender, doesnt make many mistakes)
CB - Collocini (New captain, absolutely awesome for last 24 months, arguably our best player)
LB - Enrique (Reports that Barca, Liverpool and City all interested. Best LB in premiership last year, lightening fast and so composed)

DM - Tiote Labellled the new Essien, wanted by Chelsea, but we got a 5 year contract. Breaks down everything and distribution is great
CM - Cabaye New signing, described as similar to Xavi, he's awesome on the ball and Tiote/Cabaye, should work like Xavi/Busquets

RCM - Barton  Fantastic delivery, settled for first time in his career. Loves the club, loves the fans and always gives a 8/10 performance
LCM - Marveux  New french winger, blistering pace and shot, really exciting player that will get fans off their seats

AM - Ben Arfa Everyone in the city is talking about this guy. He was amazing against EVerton last season before Nigel De Jong broke his leg. Fast, skillful, direct, will cause defenders major problems

ST - Ba Absolute animal, 6ft3, huge and strong, defenders are going to shit theirselves. He's great in the air too and as Horneis said is a great finisher

Squad:

We have Steve Harper and Fraser Forster also going for the number 1 jersey.
Dan Gosling was signed last year and will almost be like a new signing, really looking forward to him trying to get into the first 11. Can play in the middle, on the right or at right back
Jonas Guttierez - Arguably one of our best players last year. So strong, so fast but poor end product, really good for away games as he keeps the balls and great on the counter attack
Ryan Taylor - Versatile set piece specialist
Danny Guthrie/Wayne Routledge/Alan Smith - Great Squad players
Leon Best/Shola/Lovenkrands - Decent competition for Ba.

lol biased much??
"similar to xavi"
"labellled the new essien"
"defenders are going to shit themselves"

i admire your passion but think your analysis of the squad is abioptomistic to say the least

LOL, I hadn't read this, BITB. Tbf Tiote probably is that good. Xavi one is out the top draw though  rotflmfao


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 22, 2011, 05:57:03 PM
I meant similar styles to Xavi. Ben Arfa will be one of the best players in prem this season though.

Google, Ben Arfa - Everton on daily motion.

#wesoexcited

Tiote is abs incred though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 22, 2011, 06:02:11 PM
I meant similar styles to Xavi. Ben Arfa will be one of the best players in prem this season though.

Google, Ben Arfa - Everton on daily motion.

#wesoexcited

Tiote is abs incred though.

I'm suprised we got Cabaye when he was captain of the team that won the French league, I'll start looking forward to next season when we buy another striker, also a massive concern that we don't seem to be looking for a rb, huge sighhhhhhhhhhh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on July 22, 2011, 06:28:29 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/w-o-big-6

16s a good price here surely?

EW with Paddy Power means on the place alone you are getting 4/1 on 7th, 8th & 9th.

And there are defo doubts with all of the other runners. Everton haven't bought a bigtime player for about 3 years, Villa have new management and sold 2 leading stars, Bolton and Sunderland aren't exactly scary prospects.

Also quite like West Brom @ 28s.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on July 22, 2011, 06:39:07 PM
Nice find BH. Much prefer this to the match bet V Sunderland.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 22, 2011, 07:07:47 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/w-o-big-6

16s a good price here surely?

EW with Paddy Power means on the place alone you are getting 4/1 on 7th, 8th & 9th.

And there are defo doubts with all of the other runners. Everton haven't bought a bigtime player for about 3 years, Villa have new management and sold 2 leading stars, Bolton and Sunderland aren't exactly scary prospects.

Also quite like West Brom @ 28s.

We are definitely getting at least one more decent signing, a striker, so if we run decent then you should get a run for you money.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on July 31, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=12886.2040


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 01, 2011, 03:15:53 PM
Barton released on a free? smh

Hope Arsenal sign him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on August 01, 2011, 03:19:26 PM
Barton released on a free? smh

Hope Arsenal sign him.

Go on Jose, make a fool of me and tell me what that Smh stands for, Babel is forever tweeting it , but I've no idea.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 03:24:31 PM
Barton released on a free? smh

Hope Arsenal sign him.

He's announcing something on twitter @ 4pm, looks like it's this


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on August 01, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
Barton released on a free? smh

Hope Arsenal sign him.

He's announcing something on twitter @ 4pm, looks like it's this

fols :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 03:36:57 PM
meh, arsed.

gosling   collocini steven taylor  enrique

marveux   tiote  cabaye  ben arfa

               new signing

                    ba



guttierez
vuckic
ryan taylor

Still v.decent


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
SkyNewsBreak Sky News Newsdesk
Joey Barton has been made available on a free transfer, Newcastle have confirmed on their official website.
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 03:45:48 PM
should recall LuaLua tho obv.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
bartons next club 5/2 Villa 5/2 everton 9/2 arsenal 9/2 tottenaham 6/1 Man u 7/1 stoke @skybet


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 01, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Barton released on a free? smh

Hope Arsenal sign him.

Go on Jose, make a fool of me and tell me what that Smh stands for, Babel is forever tweeting it , but I've no idea.
Shaking My Head


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 04:15:33 PM
will go west ham i think


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 04:17:53 PM
will go west ham i think

Why would he go to a Championship team?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 04:19:17 PM
will go west ham i think

Why would he go to a Championship team?

mates with nolan, likes "proper clubs"

has a bairn coming, likely to get a "long contract".


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Solaris on August 01, 2011, 04:24:39 PM
Nile Ranger now coming out and having a moan on twitter.

Pardew's managed to lose the confidence of his squad in record time.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 04:26:26 PM
will go west ham i think

Why would he go to a Championship team?

mates with nolan, likes "proper clubs"

has a bairn coming, likely to get a "long contract".

Players don't really go to clubs because they've got mates there.

If i was to take a guess, i'd say spurs


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 04:27:10 PM
why spurs though? they have a ridiculous amount of midfielders.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 04:31:45 PM
why spurs though? they have a ridiculous amount of midfielders.

Spurs linked with Parker, Might as well just get Barton.

Cover for Sandro


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Solaris on August 01, 2011, 04:32:35 PM
why spurs though? they have a ridiculous amount of midfielders.

Spurs linked with Parker, Might as well just get Barton.

Cover for Sandro

Sandro and Barton are absolutely nothing alike.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on August 01, 2011, 04:35:40 PM
will go west ham i think

You can bet that at 12/1 with me if you like.  Be amazed if he didn't go to a top 8-10 prem club although I believe Villa are faves.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 04:37:27 PM
why spurs though? they have a ridiculous amount of midfielders.

Spurs linked with Parker, Might as well just get Barton.

Cover for Sandro

Sandro and Barton are absolutely nothing alike.

Sandro play DM/Holding does he not?

Can Barton not play there?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 04:41:59 PM
why spurs though? they have a ridiculous amount of midfielders.

Spurs linked with Parker, Might as well just get Barton.

Cover for Sandro

Sandro and Barton are absolutely nothing alike.

Sandro play DM/Holding does he not?

Can Barton not play there?

nah would get overrun, he wasnt good enough for Newcastle midfield yesterday so got moved out to the right.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Linux on August 01, 2011, 04:44:43 PM
why spurs though? they have a ridiculous amount of midfielders.

Spurs linked with Parker, Might as well just get Barton.

Cover for Sandro

Sandro and Barton are absolutely nothing alike.

Sandro play DM/Holding does he not?

Can Barton not play there?

nah would get overrun, he wasnt good enough for Newcastle midfield yesterday so got moved out to the right.

Yea was gonna say he was sitting pretty central/deep vs us. Got absolutely smashed up


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 01, 2011, 04:48:04 PM
Villa should swap Ireland for Barton imo.
Ireland in free role behind Ba would be good. Don't think Lerner wouldn't want to pay both their wages though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on August 01, 2011, 04:50:28 PM
Barton released on a free? smh

Hope Arsenal sign him.

Go on Jose, make a fool of me and tell me what that Smh stands for, Babel is forever tweeting it , but I've no idea.
Shaking My Head

Doh, n1


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Solaris on August 01, 2011, 04:50:40 PM
Villa should swap Ireland for Barton imo.
Ireland in free role behind Ba would be good. Don't think Lerner wouldn't want to pay both their wages though.

Ireland's been dross for ages. Would command decent wages too.

He's easily the most overrated footballer to have won the young POTY award for some time.

Cares more about his bank balance and making up stories about dead nan's than his does his football - and it shows.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 01, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
Had a poor season but you have to put him in the right system. Ahead of Xavi Cabaye and Tiote Newcastle wouldn't need him to track back and he'd be free to attack. He'd score goals and create goals. He doesn't seem to have the discipline to play in a standard 442.

Think Stoke would be another club where it would suit both parties.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 01, 2011, 05:01:28 PM
Seems like Harper could be away as well, Smith also but no problem with that. Disappointing to see Barton leave, was one of our best players last season. Pretty shambolic really.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Solaris on August 01, 2011, 05:02:30 PM
Had a poor season but you have to put him in the right system. Ahead of Xavi Cabaye and Tiote Newcastle wouldn't need him to track back and he'd be free to attack. He'd score goals and create goals. He doesn't seem to have the discipline to play in a standard 442.

Think Stoke would be another club where it would suit both parties.

He's had 2 poor seasons. He's made 12 appearances in the last 2 seasons and has shown very little in terms of desire and effort.

Right now you'd be mad to pay a penny for him, as his wages will be pretty high.

He wouldn't suit Stoke either. They're devoid of the ability to pass the ball less than 30 yards at a time - plus his wage demands would be too high for them. If they were unable to do a deal with Scott Dann because of wages, Ireland will cost far too much.

Barton on twitter:

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
One day the board might realise, what the shirt signifies. HONOUR and PRIDE. Thanks for your continued support........... #toonarmy
2 minutes ago
Joseph Barton
Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
I am on a free but the honour of wearing those B+W stripes, surpasses that
4 minutes ago
Joseph Barton
Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
Somewhere in those high echelons of NUFC, they have decided, I am persona non grata.
7 minutes ago


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 01, 2011, 05:11:46 PM
Had a poor season but you have to put him in the right system. Ahead of Xavi Cabaye and Tiote Newcastle wouldn't need him to track back and he'd be free to attack. He'd score goals and create goals. He doesn't seem to have the discipline to play in a standard 442.

Think Stoke would be another club where it would suit both parties.

He's had 2 poor seasons. He's made 12 appearances in the last 2 seasons and has shown very little in terms of desire and effort.

Right now you'd be mad to pay a penny for him, as his wages will be pretty high.
Not sure this is correct. Wiki says he played 31 times for City in 09/10. So one bad season, which was affected by injury.
I also wasn't suggesting paying for him. He hasn't settled at Villa yet and simply suggested that a swap for Barton would be good for both. Neither pays transfer fee. Both get rid of players that are unwanted or haven't worked out and neither would have a big impact made on their wage bill.

Was suggesting Barton would be good for Stoke not Ireland. Strong enough for their style of football but a better passer than they have.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2011, 05:12:20 PM
lol, he could never play infront of tiote/cabaye, that spot is for the lovely ben arfa <33333333


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on August 01, 2011, 05:13:51 PM
Seems like Harper could be away as well, Smith also but no problem with that. Disappointing to see Barton leave, was one of our best players last season. Pretty shambolic really.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Solaris on August 01, 2011, 05:22:30 PM
Had a poor season but you have to put him in the right system. Ahead of Xavi Cabaye and Tiote Newcastle wouldn't need him to track back and he'd be free to attack. He'd score goals and create goals. He doesn't seem to have the discipline to play in a standard 442.

Think Stoke would be another club where it would suit both parties.

He's had 2 poor seasons. He's made 12 appearances in the last 2 seasons and has shown very little in terms of desire and effort.

Right now you'd be mad to pay a penny for him, as his wages will be pretty high.
Not sure this is correct. Wiki says he played 31 times for City in 09/10. So one bad season, which was affected by injury.
I also wasn't suggesting paying for him. He hasn't settled at Villa yet and simply suggested that a swap for Barton would be good for both. Neither pays transfer fee. Both get rid of players that are unwanted or haven't worked out and neither would have a big impact made on their wage bill.

Was suggesting Barton would be good for Stoke not Ireland. Strong enough for their style of football but a better passer than they have.

You're right my mistake. Was rushing and didn't check properly.

I still don't rate the lad. Was poor at City towards the end and the fact that Houllier decided 4 months after he joined that he was surplus to requirements says a lot about him.

Also don't think Newcastle would particularly need another troublesome individual. Pardew has a hard enough time as it is keeping a squad happy.

Think in time Barton leaving will be the best result for all concerned. You just can't have a player shooting his mouth off every other day because he's unhappy about something or other. Barton has zero diplomacy skills and is almost willingly trying to cause mayhem.

Oh and fair enough on the suggestion he could go to Stoke, but he doesn't strike me as the sort of player who would. Pulis has a very close knit squad out there. Don't think he'd want a loudmouth like Barton joining. Also think Barton could do a lot better.

Wouldn't overly surprise me if he joined Everton. Moyes has done little in the market due to a lack of funds so it'd make sense to try and sign him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on August 01, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
The manager is a bafoon anyways so no suprise the players all want away. He thinks hes billy big bollocks an wont last long.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 01, 2011, 08:29:06 PM
Can see Newcastle getting into trouble this season if there are one or two more that follow suit.

Thanks again for Lua Lua, skinned bale on Saturday and then banged it in from his standard 30 yards.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 01, 2011, 08:30:21 PM
should recall LuaLua tho obv.

Sadly you can't recall - according to our forum.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on August 11, 2011, 05:01:31 PM
charlton re signed the legend that is jason euell yesterday. reminded me of one of my favourite footy stories (I don't really care how much truth there is in it) where newcastle accidentally signed carl cort for 7.5 million after robson sent someone down to sign up the young black england u21 forward he'd seen play but wimbledon had switched euell into midfield


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 11, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
lolol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 12, 2011, 11:01:10 PM
Coloccini gone?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 12, 2011, 11:22:18 PM
Coloccini gone?

What ??


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 12, 2011, 11:23:34 PM
Coloccini gone?

seen a couple of rumours linking him with valencia


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 12, 2011, 11:26:36 PM
WTF at Arsenal being evens tmoro, yeah they missing Fab and Nasri plus never good to bet on games right at the start of the season but that seems like massive valuooooooo to me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2011, 06:06:46 PM
LETS FUKN DO THISSSSSSSSSSSSSS

C'MON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMAZING SCENES, AGAIN PLZ

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BddTrOgkM-U


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2011, 06:13:58 PM
I'd never seen this before, despite the fact I'd like nothing more than to see us beat them tmoro, respect where it's due, wpwp, I expected it too be a pisstake. I'm not sure we'd do the same if it where the other way around.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_kBI4oICwU


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 09:24:00 AM
We getting a really nice squad together now. We should sign 3 players before the window and have a really good chance of top 10 finish.

GK. Krul/Harper. Krul has been magnificant so far, with Harper on the bench offering experience/guidance he could turn into a top 3 keeper this year                                                                                              8/10
RB. Simpson/Ryan Taylor   Steady. Not great. Ryan Taylor has scored 2/3 goals this season and can offer great service both on the wings and set pieces                                                                                          6/10
LB. Nobody/Ferguson We will sign a 6-8m defender who will really help the defence and then we have young Shane Ferguson who is a good talent                                                                                               8/10
CB. Collocini For me he is top 3 CB in prem. Our captain now and I wish I had curly hair too                                                                                                                                                                                   9/10
CB. Steven Taylor/Williamson Local lad, wears his heart on the sleeve. Will score 5 important goals a season and is great in the air too. Mike Williamson is a great cover defender who makes no mistakes                   9/10

DM Tiote/Gosling Tiote is our Essien. Breaks everything up and is composed on the ball. Slow pre season but expect him to be POTS this year, Gosling is a fantastic back up DM for us. Very happy here                   9/10
CM1 Cabaye/Haris Vuckic Was the playmaker last year for Lille who won the French league. Everything goes through him and he is very important player. Vuckic is a young but promosing replacement                 8/10
AM Ben Arfa When fit he will be one of the most exciting players in the prem, he showed it last season and every Newcastle fan cant stop talking about him                                                                                        9/10

RW Marveux Fast, athletic, skillful. Back from injury now and will be permanent fixture in our team. He will scare defences if we can keep him fit.                                                                                                        8/10
LW Jonas Guttierez Starts for Argentina's national team. Very direct, very fast/strong. Can help out the midfield/defence and will create alot too. Has had 2 seasons now so is v.settled.                                                8/10

ST We are expected to buy somebody this week for around £10m, spending some of the Carroll money. Very excited about who they can bring in.   We also have Ba who has impressive record at West Ham last year        ?/10

Bench    8/10

Harper
Barton
Ryan Taylor
Williamson
Smith
Gosling
Vuckic
Sammy Ameobi
Shola
Best
Ba
Lovenkrands


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on August 26, 2011, 09:34:13 AM
We getting a really nice squad together now. We should sign 3 players before the window and have a really good chance of top 10 finish


Fancy a side bet on it?  Can't see you finishing top ten at all.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 26, 2011, 09:37:36 AM
What do those 2 numbers mean ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 26, 2011, 09:49:41 AM
We're signing Erik pieters from psv this weekend for around 6.5m to replace Jose Enrique


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 10:09:07 AM
Which 2 numbers?

6.5m>>5.5m

Pieters > Enrique obv :P


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 10:09:26 AM
We getting a really nice squad together now. We should sign 3 players before the window and have a really good chance of top 10 finish


Fancy a side bet on it?  Can't see you finishing top ten at all.

Price?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 26, 2011, 10:11:37 AM
Which 2 numbers?

6.5m>>5.5m

Pieters > Enrique obv :P

8/10, 9/10....

 ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 26, 2011, 10:13:58 AM
We getting a really nice squad together now. We should sign 3 players before the window and have a really good chance of top 10 finish.

GK. Krul/Harper. Krul has been magnificant so far, with Harper on the bench offering experience/guidance he could turn into a top 3 keeper this year                                                                                              6/10
RB. Simpson/Ryan Taylor   Steady. Not great. Ryan Taylor has scored 2/3 goals this season and can offer great service both on the wings and set pieces                                                                                          3/10
LB. Nobody/Ferguson We will sign a 6-8m defender who will really help the defence and then we have young Shane Ferguson who is a good talent                                                                                               5/10
CB. Collocini For me he is top 3 CB in prem. Our captain now and I wish I had curly hair too                                                                                                                                                                                   8/10
CB. Steven Taylor/Williamson Local lad, wears his heart on the sleeve. Will score 5 important goals a season and is great in the air too. Mike Williamson is a great cover defender who makes no mistakes                   5/10

DM Tiote/Gosling Tiote is our Essien. Breaks everything up and is composed on the ball. Slow pre season but expect him to be POTS this year, Gosling is a fantastic back up DM for us. Very happy here                   8/10
CM1 Cabaye/Haris Vuckic Was the playmaker last year for Lille who won the French league. Everything goes through him and he is very important player. Vuckic is a young but promosing replacement                 7/10
AM Ben Arfa When fit he will be one of the most exciting players in the prem, he showed it last season and every Newcastle fan cant stop talking about him                                                                                        7/10

RW Marveux Fast, athletic, skillful. Back from injury now and will be permanent fixture in our team. He will scare defences if we can keep him fit.                                                                                                        6/10
LW Jonas Guttierez Starts for Argentina's national team. Very direct, very fast/strong. Can help out the midfield/defence and will create alot too. Has had 2 seasons now so is v.settled.                                                3/10

ST We are expected to buy somebody this week for around £10m, spending some of the Carroll money. Very excited about who they can bring in.   We also have Ba who has impressive record at West Ham last year        ?/10

Bench    8/10

Harper
Barton
Ryan Taylor
Williamson
Smith
Gosling
Vuckic
Sammy Ameobi
Shola
Best
Ba
Lovenkrands




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 10:15:27 AM
lol score out of 10 ldo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 26, 2011, 10:16:05 AM
Some of them are absolutely insane Pads, Taylor 9/10, cmon ?? What does that make Vidic, Terry etc 40/10 ?

Marveux 8/10, what ? he's played one game against a lge 1 side and made a couple of runs, provided little, where do you get that rating from ?

And just lol at Guttierez.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 26, 2011, 10:21:10 AM
I didn't actually read the descriptions, is this a level ? Williamson makes no mistakes ? I thought you used to go to the games, so blinkered mate. Taylors even worse than him for mistakes but probably better allround.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 26, 2011, 10:25:07 AM
I'm pretty worried tbh, where are the goals going to come from, Ben Arfa looked good the half a dozen games he played but it will be a while before he's 100% again, Marveux is unproven, we have no goals anywhere, it's early days but Ba looks terrible, is he unfit ?

Maybe I'm overly negative but we won't improve on last season and have shown no desire to. I wouldn't be suprised if we buy nobody attack minded before the window shuts and if that's the case we could easily find ourselves in trouble, AGAIN.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on August 26, 2011, 10:27:02 AM
Congrats on signing Erik Pieters...He'll be a great signing for you...Unfortunately we need the cash :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 11:00:40 AM
Saylor has been incred so far this season continuing his form at the back end of last season. Williamson is a defender that doesnt do anything flash but just wins everything in the air, hes a stopper I guess. Like against the mackems we put him inbetween Saylor and Collocini and just let him hoover everything up, it also allows us to change to 3-5-2 if we need to.

Jonas has more energy/drive/pace than almost anybody in the prem, he doesnt have a great end product, but carrying the ball and keeping pressure off away from home is super important and very undervalued. He's also great at working back, part of the reason Enrique got so much praise was down to Jonas.

Goals could be a struggle, but if we concede alot less (i think we will) we dont need to score as many as last season. Losing Nolans goals, but keeping possesion/not being overran in midfiled by athletic mdifielders is definitetly better imo.

If we end up with

 Tiote Barton
      Cabay

Marveux  Ben Arga
     10m striker

infront of a very solid back 5 then I would be super happy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on August 26, 2011, 11:01:13 AM
Pleno what does 10/10 mean?
Best in prem? Best it world? Best Newcastle can hope for? Best Newcastle have ever had?
Just wondered what you're comparing to.
I really rate Newcastles team and transfer activity this Summer and it's good to see a positive football fan for once so not slating it just wondered how positive you are.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 11:01:30 AM
Congrats on signing Erik Pieters...He'll be a great signing for you...Unfortunately we need the cash :(

cliffs on him? what hes like etc, have heard moxed re[orts.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on August 26, 2011, 11:02:14 AM
We getting a really nice squad together now. We should sign 3 players before the window and have a really good chance of top 10 finish


Fancy a side bet on it?  Can't see you finishing top ten at all.

Price?

Was thinking something along the lines of Even money if you finish top 11 you win if you finish 12th it is a push and 13th and below I win.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 11:03:38 AM
/10 rates their current performance, jsut because Taylor is a 9/10 atm, sdoesnt mean he wont be a 6/10 at Christmas, players change all the time and i expect us to have lots of weeks where everybody is 5-7's. but at the moment everything looks very rosy.

We are also the only team to have not conceded a goal so far this season.

im happy to sing, 1-0 to the geordie boys every week.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 11:05:43 AM
We getting a really nice squad together now. We should sign 3 players before the window and have a really good chance of top 10 finish


Fancy a side bet on it?  Can't see you finishing top ten at all.

Price?

Was thinking something along the lines of Even money if you finish top 11 you win if you finish 12th it is a push and 13th and below I win.

top 12 i win, 13 push, 14 u win. £250? lots of people think/thought we were certaintys for relegation 10 days ago btw, and we have no left back, no striker, and arguably our best player barton is leaving and arguably out other best player ben arfa is injured, whilst enrique/nolan our 2 most important players for last 3 seasons have left. you can have optiopn to buy out for £175 at xmas.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on August 26, 2011, 11:08:51 AM
Meet you in the middle.  Top twelve you win and anything below I win.  No push.  £250 is fine.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 26, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
/10 rates their current performance, jsut because Taylor is a 9/10 atm, sdoesnt mean he wont be a 6/10 at Christmas, players change all the time and i expect us to have lots of weeks where everybody is 5-7's. but at the moment everything looks very rosy.

We are also the only team to have not conceded a goal so far this season.

im happy to sing, 1-0 to the geordie boys every week.

I thought that was how good you thought they where ability wise, phew :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on August 26, 2011, 11:13:19 AM
Congrats on signing Erik Pieters...He'll be a great signing for you...Unfortunately we need the cash :(

cliffs on him? what hes like etc, have heard moxed re[orts.

I rate him, he'll be a full Dutch international for quite a while IMO. Good at Left back and can play Right back. He might take a while to settle into the EPL as the pace of the EPL is obv higher than the Dutch league. But he's pacy enough, has a good eye for positioning and likes to go forward. I wouldn't expect him to contribute many, or any, goals though. He has to work on some things (not the best defender when the ball is up in the air) but he'll get there and I would be surprised if he won't be worth a lot more when he's 25-26.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on August 26, 2011, 12:57:21 PM
newcastle reported twice in a week for tapping up players. someone's been very naughty


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 01:04:00 PM
noone likes us, we dont care,


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on August 26, 2011, 01:32:13 PM
Meet you in the middle.  Top twelve you win and anything below I win.  No push.  £250 is fine.

Is this a bet mate?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
Meet you in the middle.  Top twelve you win and anything below I win.  No push.  £250 is fine.

Is this a bet mate?

yes mate, booked.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 26, 2011, 05:13:06 PM
Barton gone to QPR, fuck Ashley


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on August 26, 2011, 06:43:22 PM
Krul and Collocini are world.

Newcastle to come 10th or 11th and pleno to win.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 26, 2011, 07:11:24 PM
Krul and Collocini are world.

Newcastle to come 10th or 11th and pleno to win.

Do you know much about European football? Any opinions on Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Marveux? I only seen a handful of games, maybe you can shed more light.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 27, 2011, 03:15:34 AM
Krul and Collocini are world.

Newcastle to come 10th or 11th and pleno to win.

Do you know much about European football? Any opinions on Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Marveux? I only seen a handful of games, maybe you can shed more light.

Ben Arfa is quality, but it just depends how he recovers from the broken leg, which he may never will. Cabaye looks good, solid enough to rock a top ten prem team. Not seen enough of Marveux to no ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on August 27, 2011, 09:22:57 AM
Barton gone to QPR, fuck Ashley

Shame for Barton as well, he should have gone to a better club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 29, 2011, 11:16:58 AM
great 3 points yesterday, unfortunate to concede sloppy goal in last 2 minutes otherwise we wouldnt have conceded this year and in 3 tough games with ryan taylor as a left back that would be a big improvement on previous seasons.

If rumours are to be believed, this would be our team in 1 weeks time./


                               Krul

David Santon   Taylor   Collocini   Pieters/Cissohko


                          Tiote    Muntari

                              Cabaye


         Marveux                                   Ben Arfa


                            Roux  (8m bid accepted)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 29, 2011, 12:00:48 PM
funnily enough i was at the match yesterday.

apart from needing 2 wingbacks newcastle looked pretty good. danny simpson was shocking, him and obertang just looked so uneasy together.

kabaye looked really good. Tiote had a poor first half, looked very slow on the ball, and every time he got it he passed it back to collocini. he took a knock to the face just before half time, was down for about 3 minutes, and after that he was awesome. seemed to knock something into him.

collocini and taylor looked really solid in the centre of defence. looked a little shaky last 20 minutes when fulham start putting crosses in, murphy and dempsey were winning headers too easy.

tim krul looks awesome in goal, saved 2 hears which were world class saves


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on August 30, 2011, 10:11:40 AM
Davide Santon is an absolute gem and best buy of the summer if your gonna get him for 5 mil.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 30, 2011, 10:17:32 AM
wowwww, 5m for santon. boooooooooom!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on August 30, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
Pieters stays at PSV :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 30, 2011, 01:00:01 PM
yeah, if we got pieters/santon as our full backs our team would be worrlllllld.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on August 30, 2011, 01:01:47 PM
yeah, if we got pieters/santon as our full backs our team would be worrlllllld.

Very surprised you didn't get Pieters TBH. Would have thought that a £6-8Mill would have been enough. He's quite keen to go, though not complaining if he has to stay for another year as he's not that kind of guy, and we need the money.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on August 30, 2011, 01:02:06 PM
the robbie elliot story is a strange one. you offer us 100k, we tell you to piss off and then report you for tapping up, now we're reporting that we're in talks, sky are reporting he's in newcastle having a medical and all the time I'm sat here wondering why a prem league club is going to all this trouble for a league 1 keeper


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 30, 2011, 01:10:11 PM
pardew likes players that he knows, he wants a reliable keeper with good dressing room banter who won't complain and will enjoy and maybe blossom into a 2nd choice keeper.

We have Krul who is ridic good atm.

Harper is our number 2 and will next year be out keeping coach, our 3rd choice is a random young Skandi.

Harper is injury prone and suspect, getting a young guy without spending a chunk of our transfer budget would have been a priority.

Is he any good?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on August 30, 2011, 01:17:20 PM
superb instinctive shot stopper but gets beaten from distance too easily. terrible distribution from feet, great throw though. has always carried too much weight but looks better this season

love his passion though a lot of that probs comes from playing from the club where he used to have a season ticket. can't see him as a prem player, I thought he was the weak link in our side going into a season in league 1 though he has been superb so far this year


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 31, 2011, 09:29:57 AM
Hope to god we sign a striker today


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 31, 2011, 11:46:47 PM
Hope to god we sign a striker today

GG.

Apart from that debacle, why didn't we sign Dann from Birmingham instead of Ridgewell ? Or do Blackburn, Fulham etc all offer higher wages then we do. Why didn't we get Bendtner on loan when he's gone to the mackems, he's better than what we've got, even Macheda or someone like that would've been better than nothing. Them clowns are happy as long as we come 17th, but I honestly think after seeing how QPR, Blackburn and others have all strengthened we could go down, Leon Best is our best striker ffs. If Ben Arfa doesn't get sorted and we lose a couple of players such as Collocini or Tiote we are fukd.

Hoping something might come through late but very much doubt it.

For anyone who doesn't realise just how shit we are here's a list of our strikers :

Peter Lovenkrands - He was never prem class but now his legs are gone not sure he could even hack the Championship.
Demba Ba - hoping I'm wrong with him but he's been terrible so far.
Leon Best - we where trying to give him away earlier in the Summer.
Shola Ameobi - complete donkey
Gabriel Obertan - he is so bad he could actually be the worst of the fukn lot
Nile Ranger - likely to be in jail soon, 2 goals in champions 0 in prem from 49 apps and he thinks he's the dogs bollocks, what a ****.

That is it, find me worse in the whole league plz, doubt I've been this raging for a long time, not like it's a surprise but still.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 01, 2011, 12:03:32 AM
Hope to god we sign a striker today

Gabriel Obertan - he is so bad he could actually be the worst of the fukn lot
Nile Ranger - likely to be in jail soon, 2 goals in champions 0 in prem from 49 apps and he thinks he's the dogs bollocks, what a ****.


Last season Obertan was the stand out worst player in the prem, v.v.v.v.v.v closely followed by ranger, and it just isnt even close, they're both abs fkin awful.

Obertan might be fast, but he cant dribble with a ball quicker than walking pace, he cant pass, he cant head, he cant score :( And Ranger... well, just lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 01, 2011, 12:19:52 AM
Debacle.

:(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 01, 2011, 12:20:50 AM
Taking this from NUFC.com

"It’s difficult for me because I keep doing Press conferences and indicating we’re getting players, and they aren’t coming over the line. But it’s only after the window shuts when it becomes a problem."

"We need reinforcements. I am not going to disguise that. We need reinforcements."

"Let's get these guys over the line."

Is there actually any point in him speaking?


The last part couldn't be more spot on, just a puppet for Ashley and Llambias.

I might pop up to the training ground tmoro to see what a £35 million training ground looks like.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on September 01, 2011, 12:35:49 AM
worst thing you did was get 7 from 9  points - just increased teh quality of padlock on ashleys wallet

you need to get to 40 pts as quickly as poss this season because I get the feeling when the wheels fall off it could be free fall

(i like nctle alot btw and sincerely hope the above doesnt occur)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 01, 2011, 12:40:23 AM
worst thing you did was get 7 from 9  points - just increased teh quality of padlock on ashleys wallet

you need to get to 40 pts as quickly as poss this season because I get the feeling when the wheels fall off it could be free fall

(i like nctle alot btw and sincerely hope the above doesnt occur)

I said the same on Sunday when we won, new we'd get no striker.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 01, 2011, 12:40:33 AM
I am obviously no Newcastle fan, pretty much the opposite, but I honestly can't believe the job Ashley has done on you and largely got away with it in the last six months.  Sold Barton, Nolan, Carroll and Enrique and replaced them with Ba, Cabaye, Obertan and Santon.  Proven players sold for big money and replaced by young players that the big clubs have deemed to be not good enough.  All this is down to Ashley and Llambias' greed eyt they had the bottle to sack Chris Hughton last year who was doing a superb job there.  


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 01, 2011, 01:49:15 AM
ashley should be known as the TRANSFER WINDOW LICKER

the man is a joke, please phuck off and sell the club quickly


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 01, 2011, 01:53:33 AM
QPR's former Newcastle midfielder Joey Barton on Twitter: "Nice to see Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias come through with their promise to reinvest Andy Carroll money, £59m net profit from transfers in last 5 seasons... ambition???"


Ashley please die, u fat b@st@rd


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 05, 2011, 11:04:35 AM
we;ll get to january and they will have to spend big bucks.

We still have a v.good side on papaer, just need as forward


          krul

simpson taylor collocini santon

         tiote cabaye
             ben arfa

marveux           jonas

            ba

most of these players would start for most teams in the prem.

guthrie
smith
williamson
harper
lovenkrands
ranger
shola
best


all ok sqwuad players who can come on and see a game off, but not many players who can "change" a game for us, although we do have sammy ameobi who is incred.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 05, 2011, 05:54:04 PM
LOL Pads

V. good side ?? Rly ??

If that's the case how many of our players would get in the Spurs team, not Man U/City as they are world, just Spurs, who I'd say do have a very good side but won't come top 4 this season unless they get a few shock results ?

I'm not saying that's where we are at, I know where we are at, we are a mediocre Premier Lge side who will finish in a mediocre position.

BTW just lol at out subs bench, comically terrible.

Oh my, I missed this bit "most of these players would start for most teams in the prem", <3 u Pads.

Thoughts form non toon fans on whether I'm uber negative or Pleno lives in lala land ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on September 05, 2011, 06:05:58 PM
Nah, you're right Monda..most players won't walk into any EPL team. Don't think you have a ridic bad team though..certainly near top of 2nd page IMO...your bench is an issue though. If you pick up 2 or 3 injuries you will be in real trouble.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 05, 2011, 06:13:31 PM
Nah, you're right Monda..most players won't walk into any EPL team. Don't think you have a ridic bad team though..certainly near top of 2nd page IMO...your bench is an issue though. If you pick up 2 or 3 injuries you will be in real trouble.

Krul looks good but a good few ppl where not convinced on him last season, me include, so the jury is still out.
Collocini is v good
Santon is supposed to be v good but is going to take time to adjust
Tiote is v good
Cabaye looks good/ v good but has played 1/2 dozen games...
Ben Arfa has been out for a year, so what can we expect from him for at least the next 3 months

As for the rest, they are poor at best.

I just feel like we have the makings of a squad that could very easily find it's self in trouble and with the manager we have, to say I'm slightly concerned would be an understatement. As I think I said when I ranted after deadline day, if both Tiote and Collo get long term injuries that could easily happening we are in deep shit.

Although it's a little sad, I used to be 110% to Newcastle, kicked every ball and the days result would set my mood for the next few days, I was a nightmare to be around when we lost, complete waste of time, but if I'm honest, now I don't really give a fuck, same as with England, well I do care but probably 10% of how much I did and I'm glad that's the case.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 05, 2011, 06:37:35 PM
Interesting...

Odds on Pardew being next manager to be sacked have tumbled today ??

Supposedly nothing to it though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 05, 2011, 08:08:38 PM
Interesting...

Odds on Pardew being next manager to be sacked have tumbled today ??

Supposedly nothing to it though.

just about to post this, no smoke without fire and all that

pardew certainly isnt the guy i want there but he isnt the problem, its the useless fkin board that needs to go, hopefully before January and then we might just save our season


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on September 05, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
Is Arfa back in training? Any ideas when he will make the first team squad?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 05, 2011, 09:36:21 PM
Is Arfa back in training? Any ideas when he will make the first team squad?

As of last week he wasn't back in training :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 05, 2011, 09:40:20 PM
rumours are churning that Pardew has not been at the club for days and awol after a big row with Derek Llambias

les ferdinand has been mentioned as a replacement   lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 05, 2011, 09:41:21 PM
rumours are churning that Pardew has not been at the club for days and awol after a big row with Derek Llambias

les ferdinand has been mentioned as a replacement   lol


Haha, that would be incred.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 05, 2011, 09:49:12 PM
krulm colocini., taylor, santonn, tiote, cabaye, ben arfa and gutierez would get in alottttt of teams either starting or full squad members i.e 15 games per season.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 06, 2011, 12:13:48 AM
krulm colocini., taylor, santonn, tiote, cabaye, ben arfa and gutierez would get in alottttt of teams either starting or full squad members i.e 15 games per season.



Imo only Colo on Tiote would get a look in at a top 6 team, I think the rest would stuggle to get on the bench. I like Cabaye a lot from what I've seen though. Gutieres is terrible mate, seriously. I like your blind faith/loyalty/love for the team, it's exactly what I used to be like.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 06, 2011, 10:01:55 AM
krulm colocini., taylor, santonn, tiote, cabaye, ben arfa and gutierez would get in alottttt of teams either starting or full squad members i.e 15 games per season.



Imo only Colo on Tiote would get a look in at a top 6 team, I think the rest would stuggle to get on the bench. I like Cabaye a lot from what I've seen though. Gutieres is terrible mate, seriously. I like your blind faith/loyalty/love for the team, it's exactly what I used to be like.

I understand your cynicism and frustration at the way the club is going, I used to be like that. Then one day, I sat up in bed and thought.. wow we have a world class team here.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 06, 2011, 10:08:05 AM
krulm colocini., taylor, santonn, tiote, cabaye, ben arfa and gutierez would get in alottttt of teams either starting or full squad members i.e 15 games per season.



Imo only Colo on Tiote would get a look in at a top 6 team, I think the rest would stuggle to get on the bench. I like Cabaye a lot from what I've seen though. Gutieres is terrible mate, seriously. I like your blind faith/loyalty/love for the team, it's exactly what I used to be like.

I understand your cynicism and frustration at the way the club is going, I used to be like that. Then one day, I sat up in bed and thought.. wow we have a world class team here.

 rotflmfao :)up


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 06, 2011, 10:10:42 AM
If we had signed Sturridge/Johnson (adam) which really isn't out of the question, even on loan would suffice, we would be battling for 5th spot imo. Would really have been so good, hopefully January we get a few young players from the top 3 to bolster the squad up.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 06, 2011, 03:39:48 PM
If we had signed Sturridge/Johnson (adam) which really isn't out of the question, even on loan would suffice, we would be battling for 5th spot imo. Would really have been so good, hopefully January we get a few young players from the top 3 to bolster the squad up.

Lol mate, we could have signed any 2 players in the world and we still wouldnt be battling anywhere near top 5


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 06, 2011, 03:49:07 PM
If we had signed Sturridge/Johnson (adam) which really isn't out of the question, even on loan would suffice, we would be battling for 5th spot imo. Would really have been so good, hopefully January we get a few young players from the top 3 to bolster the squad up.

Lol mate, we could have signed any 2 players in the world and we still wouldnt be battling anywhere near top 5

Why though?

City, Man U, Chelsea


Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham

After that I would put us as likely as anybody to finish 7th and if we signed 2 big players we would be odds on to finish 7th imo. Also Tottenham/Arsenal could easily to a Liverpool from last year.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 08, 2011, 05:41:37 AM
I honestly cannot think of a position where you have a stronger player than any of the latter three teams you mention nevermind the top three.  I suppose Colocini could probably get into a couple of those back fours but at the end of the day last year you conceded 57 goals against 43 for Arsenal, 46 for Spurs and 44 for Liverpool.  Considering you think most of your defence and midfield would "get in alottttt of teams either starting or full squad members i.e 15 games per season." then they aren't performing that well on a basic performance indicator like goals conceded.  Obviously as a Boro fan I prefer to see you boys struggling but at the end of the day with the support you get week in week out you deserve better than having a c*nt like Ashley risk totally ruining the club.  He sells your best players from under the managers nose and then makes a fraction of the revenues available for new players and then has the temerity to fire a manager whose 'team' doesn't perform.  The  idea that this team is a couple of players away from a CL spot is hilarious given that you have recently sold two world class players in Enrique and Caroll and two of the most important players for you in Nolan and Barton.  I just don't see how it is possible to argue that this team is in a better place now than it was this time last year. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on September 08, 2011, 09:41:26 AM
krulm colocini., taylor, santonn, tiote, cabaye, ben arfa and gutierez would get in alottttt of teams either starting or full squad members i.e 15 games per season.



Imo only Colo on Tiote would get a look in at a top 6 team, I think the rest would stuggle to get on the bench. I like Cabaye a lot from what I've seen though. Gutieres is terrible mate, seriously. I like your blind faith/loyalty/love for the team, it's exactly what I used to be like.

I understand your cynicism and frustration at the way the club is going, I used to be like that. Then one day, I sat up in bed and thought.. wow we have a world class team here.

rotflmfao. Bless ya.... Be happy if you get 11th-12th.

and signing 2 big players to become a top 5 team? Maybe if those two are Messi and Ronaldo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 08, 2011, 10:14:30 AM
We have a solid back 5 now, something we havn't had for 15 years, I gaurantee you we will concede less than last season (willing to bet whatever) if there is one problem this year it will be that we don't score enough goals, hopefully this willbe rectified in January.

However we only lose 1 player to African National in the New Year which is Tiote and with players like Danny Guthrie and Dan Gosling we have more than fine replacements.

Krul - would get in most prem teams
Santon - Young but I think you will be surprised by him, would get in most teams
Collocini - Would get in any team apoart from Man U/Chelsea
Taylor - Get in around 15 teams

Tiote - Get in any team in prem. > mikel
Cabaye - Get in 15 teams+ in prem
Guttierez - Would get in 15 teams in prem

Ben Arfa - When fit would get in any team in prem


Cant wait to see Barton abs destroyed by our midfield this weekend, hes really bad as part of a 2cm. Santon will have SWP in his back pocket too and hopefulyl Simpson kicks Tarrabat off the park.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 08, 2011, 10:24:04 AM
Lol pads


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 08, 2011, 10:26:48 PM
see the world thru these



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 08, 2011, 10:57:28 PM
We have a solid back 5 now, something we havn't had for 15 years, I gaurantee you we will concede less than last season (willing to bet whatever) if there is one problem this year it will be that we don't score enough goals, hopefully this willbe rectified in January.

However we only lose 1 player to African National in the New Year which is Tiote and with players like Danny Guthrie and Dan Gosling we have more than fine replacements.

Krul - would get in most prem teams - Nope
Santon - Young but I think you will be surprised by him, would get in most teams - Dunno
Collocini - Would get in any team apoart from Man U/Chelsea - Nope
Taylor - Get in around 15 teams - Not even close

Tiote - Get in any team in prem. > mikel - Nope
Cabaye - Get in 15 teams+ in prem - Nope
Guttierez - Would get in 15 teams in prem - I lol'd.

Ben Arfa - When fit would get in any team in prem - Nope


Cant wait to see Barton abs destroyed by our midfield this weekend, hes really bad as part of a 2cm. Santon will have SWP in his back pocket too and hopefulyl Simpson kicks Tarrabat off the park. I <3 Pleno.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 09, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
Which team would Collocini not get in Monda?
Which team would Tiote not get in?
Which teams would Ben Arfa not get in?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 09, 2011, 08:14:12 PM
Which team would Collocini not get in Monda? Spurs & Lpool
Which team would Tiote not get in? Man U, Lpool, maybe Chelsea.
Which teams would Ben Arfa not get in? Top 5 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on September 12, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
9-4 away to QPR...surely too big?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 12, 2011, 08:34:24 PM
Getting crushed atm, our midfield isnt anywhere to be seen


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 12, 2011, 08:52:10 PM
Getting crushed atm, our midfield isnt anywhere to be seen

How are we still in this game ? Should be 3-0 at least.

Interested to hear Pads thoughts on that 1st half performance  ;whistle;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 12, 2011, 10:16:26 PM
Most painful game ive ever watched, we was sooo bad, doubt Tiote, Gutierrez, Obertan and Rtaylor could have give the ball away more. Sooo bad in the midfield, tilt


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 13, 2011, 10:56:30 AM
Fantastic result, undefeated, no striker, best player out, star summer signing on the bench not matchfit.

QPR with over 9000 new signings trying to impress, long trip to London on a Monday after an international break.

Clean sheet.

#istillbelieve



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 13, 2011, 11:02:11 AM
Fantastic result, undefeated, no striker, best player out, star summer signing on the bench not matchfit.

QPR with over 9000 new signings trying to impress, long trip to London on a Monday after an international break.

Clean sheet.

#istillbelieve



I know our midfield got overrun but Tiote and Cabaye did both play.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 13, 2011, 11:34:56 AM
yeh was tactical mistake by Pardew, should have put Guthrie/Gosling in there and try to counter attack from the wings.

Tiote is playing turd this season.

Cabaye didnt have many option, when Ben Arfa comes back, he can play lots of 10-15 yard passes instead of looking for the world cup pass everytime like he has to atm.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 15, 2011, 10:35:02 AM
Fantastic result, undefeated, no striker, best player out, star summer signing on the bench not matchfit.

QPR with over 9000 new signings trying to impress, long trip to London on a Monday after an international break.

Clean sheet.

#istillbelieve



lolz. You definitely are a glass half full man.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 15, 2011, 05:55:23 PM
David Santon our star new signing is reportedly out for 3 months.

We are officialy cursed, such a fkn joke.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: claypole on September 15, 2011, 08:32:32 PM
David Santon our star new signing is reportedly out for 3 months.

We are officialy cursed, such a fkn joke.

wtf....we are jinxed - you've put me on monkey tilt in the 100r


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 15, 2011, 09:56:06 PM
rofl sorry mate


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 17, 2011, 04:21:05 AM
Fml, retarded enough to have a $10 per goal difference bet with a Villa fan, dunno whos gonna score for us, lets go Krulllll, save me from paying the  dirty villa scummer :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 17, 2011, 04:32:57 AM
Fml, retarded enough to have a $10 per goal difference bet with a Villa fan, dunno whos gonna score for us, lets go Krulllll, save me from paying the  dirty villa scummer :)

LOL, when did you make this bet ? We have been solid at the back so far but I don't really understand how, luck imo but we will see.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 17, 2011, 04:35:18 AM
Lol i made it this week, but he asked me seeing as at the start of the season he give me 1/2odds on villa being in top 4 at xmas (after boxing day games) so seemed fair to give him abit of a sweat on winning some money off me


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 17, 2011, 03:13:33 PM
Superb start....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 17, 2011, 04:16:28 PM
booooooooooooooooooooom


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 17, 2011, 04:19:29 PM
booooooooooooooooooooom


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 17, 2011, 04:19:58 PM
got live link if anyone wants it pm'd

good game so far


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 18, 2011, 02:49:01 AM
NEWCASTLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 19, 2011, 12:23:30 AM
I reckon they probably will be...know you like a bet so how about this:

When will Newcastle lose their first game:

5/1 Blackburn
2/1 Wolves
11/4 Spurs
16/1 Wigan
11/2 Stoke
16/1 Everton
12/1 Man City or later









Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on September 19, 2011, 12:58:52 AM
I will take the 5-1 Blackburn pls


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 19, 2011, 01:01:44 AM
I will take the 5-1 Blackburn pls

I'm pissed but I was thinking this, huh ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Alverton on September 19, 2011, 01:26:02 AM
I will take the 5-1 Blackburn pls


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 19, 2011, 01:35:25 AM
Will lay Dubai £30, Monda £20 and Alv £15 if you all want it to give everyone a go.  Blackburn now 7/2.  Wolves 9/4.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 19, 2011, 01:41:22 AM
Just reply 'booked' in the next couple of days if you want it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 19, 2011, 01:45:52 AM
Sorry if I was misleading I don't bet against my team, just thought ur prices where pretty off, give dubai the extra £20.


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Post by: redarmi on September 19, 2011, 01:52:44 AM
Okay - Dubai has £50 if he wants it. I had kinda counted on being able to get away with a 100% price for the first one because the thread was full fo Geordies...hadn't really counted on Dubai reading it but I don't like quoting a price and not laying it and Dubai is same I think.


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Post by: Dubai on September 19, 2011, 02:01:53 AM
I hate Blackburn but surely they are never 5-1 away at Newc

Will take the 50 and do it in no doubt :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 19, 2011, 02:06:57 AM
I did it without looking at the prices for next week to be honest and they are a bit shorter to lay on BF but I don't think it is far off fair value to be honest.


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Post by: Alverton on September 19, 2011, 02:17:48 AM
Booked for the £15, thx.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 19, 2011, 02:35:24 AM
I hate Blackburn but surely they are never 5-1 away at Newc

Will take the 50 and do it in no doubt :)

Ermm, bol  ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 19, 2011, 09:52:31 AM
NEWCASTLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 20, 2011, 03:44:02 AM
ben arfa in tomoz squad and santon injury not as bad as 1st expected

haaaaaaaaaaway the lads


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 20, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
Fantastic first half for the toon. Ben Arfa crushing and linked up with Marveux whom I also tip highly for our goal.

Same in second please guys.


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Post by: toddswain on September 20, 2011, 10:15:40 PM
Coloccini thooooo


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Post by: gatso on September 20, 2011, 10:22:16 PM
superb instinctive shot stopper but gets beaten from distance too easily. terrible distribution from feet, great throw though. has always carried too much weight but looks better this season

love his passion though a lot of that probs comes from playing from the club where he used to have a season ticket. can't see him as a prem player, I thought he was the weak link in our side going into a season in league 1 though he has been superb so far this year

was I right?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2011, 10:49:12 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.

Nice to see Ben Arfa done 70 minutes.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 20, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
great result. we conceded 3 (but only 1 of our normal back 5) but big thing is we scoredddd.

NEWCASTLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 20, 2011, 10:55:47 PM
Nice home tie on Saturday plz, a cup run would be nice.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 22, 2011, 08:55:17 AM
hmmmmmmmm

 toon 24.0 to win carling cup on BF......4 games, weakened top teams....might be worth a little punt


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 24, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
link to the match today would be great.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 24, 2011, 02:11:15 PM
link to the match today would be great.

Check your pms.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 24, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
Come on lads, 3 points pleaseee


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 24, 2011, 02:34:40 PM
Come on lads, 3 points pleaseee

This, just about to go out and watch it, drunk celebration posts at 3am plz, lets gogogogogogo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 24, 2011, 03:28:24 PM
booooooooooooooooooooom


get in


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 24, 2011, 03:29:31 PM
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa thooooooooo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 24, 2011, 03:31:39 PM
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on September 24, 2011, 03:31:57 PM
baaaaaaaaaaa

baaaaaaaaaaa


black and white sheep    lol


2 nowt    c'mon


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 24, 2011, 05:04:40 PM
Chillin in 4th, 2 points above liverpool, whos fkin needs carroll/enrique :)


Suprisingly nice to be a newcastle fan for once, last longer than a month one time ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 24, 2011, 05:10:25 PM
we were fucking amazing today.

obertran was fuckign class. 3m
 ben arfa 5.5m
ba free transfer
cabaye 4m
marveux free
best 2m
taylor academy
krul academy
simpson peanuts
tiote 5m

fk off carroll and ur 35 fucking million

NEWCASTLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 24, 2011, 05:25:19 PM
Surprised none of you have mentioned Leon Best in this thread.  Really great find imo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 24, 2011, 05:34:19 PM
we were fucking amazing today.


best 2m


fk off carroll and ur 35 fucking million

NEWCASTLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 25, 2011, 06:42:02 PM
Surprised none of you have mentioned Leon Best in this thread.  Really great find imo.

Level ?? He's the best of a bad bunch, I'm absolutely loving it but it won't last, obv.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 25, 2011, 07:05:29 PM
Also, best defence in the prem :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on September 25, 2011, 09:13:02 PM
Surprised none of you have mentioned Leon Best in this thread.  Really great find imo.

Level ?? He's the best of a bad bunch, I'm absolutely loving it but it won't last, obv.

Not a level.  Very rare for a prem side to find a decent striker at this level from the lower leagues these days.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 26, 2011, 10:26:07 AM
Fantastic performance on Saturday against an energetic Blackburn side who ahd thier tails up in the air after a win against Arsenal last week.

We played complete carpet football and our midfield was an absolute joy to watch, I had a season ticket for 15 years and I paid to watch shit most of the time, I'd happily pay £100 to watch performances like Saturday, absolutely surperb.

We have a really good backbone to our team now.

       Krul

  Collocini Taylor

  Cabaye Tioe

     Ba/Best.

Strong, good, commited, loyal players who have abit of class about them too.

When you mix in Santon, Ben Arfa, Marveux, Guttierez, Sammy Ameobi, Obetran, we have exciting, [acy players who defences will be scared of.

If we spend 10-15m in January, wow am I excited.

We're Newcastle and we're gonna win the league, wer're gonna win the league, we're gonnna win the league.

NEWCASTLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Alverton on September 26, 2011, 05:51:32 PM
Will lay Dubai £30, Monda £20 and Alv £15 if you all want it to give everyone a go.  Blackburn now 7/2.  Wolves 9/4.

fml, forgot about this. Nothing good can come from when I open a thread about Newcastle.  I can only send from Stars redarmi. Presumably this is ok, need username. 


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Post by: redarmi on September 26, 2011, 07:07:24 PM
redarmi on stars mate.  cheers.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 27, 2011, 06:29:50 PM
Pleno will be pleased  ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15075886.stm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 01, 2011, 12:16:52 PM
HTL :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on October 01, 2011, 03:18:15 PM
baaaaaaaaaaaa

booooooooooooooooom



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 01, 2011, 03:38:48 PM
JOOOOOOOOOONAAAAAAAAASSSSSS


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on October 01, 2011, 03:55:19 PM
very impressive 1st half

when will this bubble burst??   :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 01, 2011, 11:04:51 PM
We run as good as Ben Lamb.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on October 02, 2011, 12:06:15 AM
A friend of mine wants to bet me that Newcastle wont finish the season in the top 10

what price should i be offering him?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 02, 2011, 12:08:28 AM
A friend of mine wants to bet me that Newcastle wont finish the season in the top 10

what price should i be offering him?

Nothing amazing, 2/1 sounds generous.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on October 02, 2011, 10:21:26 AM
A friend of mine wants to bet me that Newcastle wont finish the season in the top 10

what price should i be offering him?

Taking the big 6 out of the equation, you've got Villa, Fulham, Stoke, Newcastle, Everton fighting for 4 places.

Not much else imo. Sunderland are pretty crap and will come like 11th-14th, Bolton are bottom of the league but should also occupy the 11th-14th spots, same with QPR.

Give him like 7/2 or 4/1, give the lad a gamble.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 11, 2011, 01:32:22 PM
I want one :)

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/yours-for-163510-newcastle-put-famous-sign-up-for-sale-on-ebay-2368667.html

Other than the N which is currently £700 the rest are around £100-200, would guess they'll go for quite a bit more though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on October 16, 2011, 05:09:09 PM
boooooooooooommmm


justice, we really didnt deserve to be behind,

c'mon the tooon finish the job

:)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on October 16, 2011, 05:46:33 PM
Lovely finish from Ameobi. When the ball fell to him, you just 'expected' him to score.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 16, 2011, 06:17:08 PM
So much heart and belief in this team that we look a match for most at home.

It's usually at this point we shoot ourselves in the foot somehow though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on October 16, 2011, 07:24:23 PM
really chuffed the way the teams playing, and tbh i really thought we'd struggle this season. can't fault them in every game we've played, Pardew has really got them playing well and for each other. obviously there's a long way to go, but before a ball was kicked this season i would of happily settled for 17th.
 
   got to give credit where credits due, i hated Pardews arrival, but he has done a fantastic job and everyone of his signings are playing really well and look very good players considering what was spent on them.

  if we finish in the top half i would consider this a very successful season, but results breeds confidence and you never know we might even keep this up and possibly make a euro spot (unlikely but possible)

tres bien, le toon


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Post by: mondatoo on October 16, 2011, 08:45:26 PM
I have to say, as much as I thinks pads is a clown as far as we are concerned, no offence, but today we matched Spurs, a top 4 side, we where absolutely class, and for all 5 mins of stoppage it was us pushing, imo it was our best performance of the season, I was abs loving it. On paper we aren't a good side but 8 games played and we are unbeaten, LETS DO THISSSSSSSSS!

All season I've thought we're just running like god but today we didn't and we where a match for a top 4 side, abs buzzzzing.


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Post by: redarmi on October 16, 2011, 10:19:50 PM
Yeah credit where it is due you played well today.  Still won't even be the be last unbeaten team in the north east though ;-)


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Post by: pleno1 on October 17, 2011, 10:12:43 AM
Should have had a penalty too imo

Fantastic performance yesterday. Stunning.

Gutierez/Collocini wow.

Collocini is best defender in prem atm imo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on October 17, 2011, 10:50:52 AM
Jonas gave Modric a good game, a top 8 finish is definitely possible for newcastle, but you going to have to beat the likes of Liverpool to get any higher.

How many times in last 5 yeards have Newcastle beaten Man u, Man C, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on October 18, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
Yeah credit where it is due you played well today.  Still won't even be the be last unbeaten team in the north east though ;-)

you said? ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 22, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Come on lads !!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: paulhouk03 on October 22, 2011, 04:15:06 PM
come on i need u to win!!!! i cba to reload!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 22, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
FUCKIN BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 22, 2011, 05:02:04 PM
great result form a bad performance, clean sheet. wp guys.

#NEWCASTLEUNITEDWILLNEVERBEDEAFEATED


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Post by: Josedinho on October 22, 2011, 05:12:21 PM
Good result. Tough run coming up so nice to get the points on the board at this stage. Please get 7th


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 23, 2011, 12:19:34 PM
BBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

FUKN BUZZING, STILL!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 23, 2011, 12:19:52 PM
#NEWCASTLEUNITEDWILLNEVERBEDEAFEATED


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Post by: anthonyl on October 24, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
BOOM- stevie harper joins us on loan.

Needed that, hope he gets off to a good start tonight !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on October 26, 2011, 09:53:57 PM
FML - I give up!!!! #newcastleunitedareunbeatable


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 26, 2011, 09:54:19 PM
Sick!!! pulled it back in extra time. CMON LADS


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 31, 2011, 11:24:50 AM
Huge game today, win and we are 3rd, 2 points aherad of City.

Stoke are sick physical team though, so really hope we play a passing and quick team and try to get behind them. They have some absolutely wank players please lets dont play to their tactics.

Last season HUghton played.

Simpson TaylorCambell WIlliamson Enrique
   
         Collocini Smith Tiote

           Shola Best

lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 31, 2011, 01:11:42 PM
Quote
They have some absolutely wank players

I lolled hard. Cmon lads


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 31, 2011, 01:18:25 PM
Glenn Whelan, Dean Whitehead, Rory Delap, Jonathan Walters, all absolutely stealing a living.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 31, 2011, 10:17:00 PM
#NEWCASTLEUNITEDWILLNEVERBEDEFEATED

Absolutely fantastic. In the last 22 years supporting this football club we have always, always struggled in these kind of games. Hats off to Alan Pardew, absolutely fantastic.

The back 4 are absolutely awesome, complete hero's who would throw themselves infront of a bus to keep their place for next week.

Midfield worked their absolute socks off, Jonas has to be the best defensive winger in the premiership, its no obvious why he commands a place in the Argentina team. Guthrie came in and did an insanely good job. Obertan had his best game of the season and put in a delicious cross for the first goal to set us off.

Best, Ba. Wow, just wow, quality all round stirkers who work hard, play well, have an eye for goal and can hold the ball up.

Look at our bench tonight.

    * 35 Elliot,
    * 03 Santon,
    * 14 Perch,
    * 10 Ben Arfa,
    * 15 Gosling,
    * 22 Marveaux,
    * 28 Sa Ameobi

Young, exciting players who can be there for the next 5 years at the club. Our whole squad is just brilliant. This is after losing our captain, vice captain (Nolan, Barton) main goalscorer (Carroll) and arguably our best player (Enrique)

Although they have spent fuck all, hats off must go to Mike Ashley who fired Chris Hughton and brought in Pards when the club was starting to show come consistency, a fantastic business decision and I'm sorry I ever doubted you.

We will not be robbed by stupidly high transfer fees
We will not be ridiculed on social media sites by players who think they are bigger than the club
We will not be defeated!



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 31, 2011, 10:57:05 PM

Young, exciting players who can be there for the next 5 years at the club.


And James Perch.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 31, 2011, 11:10:06 PM
#NEWCASTLEUNITEDWILLNEVERBEDEAFEATED


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on October 31, 2011, 11:49:24 PM


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 31, 2011, 11:53:04 PM
Gutierrez was amazing tonight, well done Pardew, got it spot on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 01, 2011, 01:21:03 AM
Although they have spent fuck all, hats off must go to Mike Ashley who fired Chris Hughton and brought in Pards when the club was starting to show come consistency, a fantastic business decision and I'm sorry I ever doubted you.


I love your passion for your football club even if they are one of our local rivals and good luck to you but if you really believe the above sentence after playing ten games and only beating Stoke, Sunderland, Wolves, Wigan and Fulham then you need your head seeing to.    Ashley has, and will continue to, rape your club and sell its best assets.  Sacking Hughton was the most amongst the craziest decisions I have ever heard of from a football chairman and that is a long, long list.  He picked Pardew not because he was the best available to the club but because he was cheap and would do as he was told ie sell all your best players and he did.  He may prove to be an okay manager but please don't tell me that Ashley saw great promise in him after he failed to get the biggest club in the division out of League One because he didn't.  He saw pounds signs and didn't want anyone to get in the way of him realising them.  I hope for the legions of ridiculously loyal fans in Newcastle that it works out alright for you (well maybe the odd relegation for coedy effect and because us Boro fans don't have much else to look forward to) but I can't see Ashley ever being good for the long terms prospects of your club so please don't turn him into some kind of hero because you have won five out of ten games and drawn the other five.  As a good poker player you know way too much about variance to make that mistake.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2011, 01:27:02 AM
Although they have spent fuck all, hats off must go to Mike Ashley who fired Chris Hughton and brought in Pards when the club was starting to show come consistency, a fantastic business decision and I'm sorry I ever doubted you.


I love your passion for your football club even if they are one of our local rivals and good luck to you but if you really believe the above sentence after playing ten games and only beating Stoke, Sunderland, Wolves, Wigan and Fulham then you need your head seeing to.    Ashley has, and will continue to, rape your club and sell its best assets.  Sacking Hughton was the most amongst the craziest decisions I have ever heard of from a football chairman and that is a long, long list.  He picked Pardew not because he was the best available to the club but because he was cheap and would do as he was told ie sell all your best players and he did.  He may prove to be an okay manager but please don't tell me that Ashley saw great promise in him after he failed to get the biggest club in the division out of League One because he didn't.  He saw pounds signs and didn't want anyone to get in the way of him realising them.  I hope for the legions of ridiculously loyal fans in Newcastle that it works out alright for you (well maybe the odd relegation for coedy effect and because us Boro fans don't have much else to look forward to) but I can't see Ashley ever being good for the long terms prospects of your club so please don't turn him into some kind of hero because you have won five out of ten games and drawn the other five.  As a good poker player you know way too much about variance to make that mistake.

We've won 6, you forgot Blackburn :)

Other than that though I totally agree, Ashley deserves no credit for any of it.

I'm glad to see Hughton is doing a very good job at Birmingham giving the tough circumstances, gl to him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on November 01, 2011, 02:53:05 AM
Although they have spent fuck all, hats off must go to Mike Ashley who fired Chris Hughton and brought in Pards when the club was starting to show come consistency, a fantastic business decision and I'm sorry I ever doubted you.


I love your passion for your football club even if they are one of our local rivals and good luck to you but if you really believe the above sentence after playing ten games and only beating Stoke, Sunderland, Wolves, Wigan and Fulham then you need your head seeing to.    Ashley has, and will continue to, rape your club and sell its best assets.  Sacking Hughton was the most amongst the craziest decisions I have ever heard of from a football chairman and that is a long, long list.  He picked Pardew not because he was the best available to the club but because he was cheap and would do as he was told ie sell all your best players and he did.  He may prove to be an okay manager but please don't tell me that Ashley saw great promise in him after he failed to get the biggest club in the division out of League One because he didn't.  He saw pounds signs and didn't want anyone to get in the way of him realising them.  I hope for the legions of ridiculously loyal fans in Newcastle that it works out alright for you (well maybe the odd relegation for coedy effect and because us Boro fans don't have much else to look forward to) but I can't see Ashley ever being good for the long terms prospects of your club so please don't turn him into some kind of hero because you have won five out of ten games and drawn the other five.  As a good poker player you know way too much about variance to make that mistake.

 :goodpost:  ;iagree;

other than its 6 wins ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 01, 2011, 03:04:00 AM
Aye apologies......six wins.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 10:05:02 AM
Spurs were "tested" against Manchester City and Manchester United. They lost 0-3 and 1-5.

Chelsea have "tested" themselves against Manchester United and Arsenal. They've lost 1-3 and 3-5.

Arsenal were "tested" against Manchester United. They failed miserably and lost 2-8. They also lost to Spurs.

Manchester United were "tested" against Manchester City. They failed their miserably test, lost 1-6.

So everyone who have been tested have failed bar Manchester City. What is this test that other supporters and experts are on about? Whether we can challenge for the title? I'm not saying we'll finish where we are, but overlooking the sides that we've brushed aside is just plain stupidit

We are the second team to beat Stoke away in the premiership right? We beat Sunderland away when we had a really really small and weak squad. We were tested and we passed with flying fucking colours.

We showed grit and determination to come back against Tottenham and ARsenal at home. If they had beaten us they would both me ahead of us in the table right now.

The premier league is a total different kettle of fish than 6 years ago. Almost every team is littered with internationals. Beating these teams reguarly IS THE TEST for the better teams. Liverpool fdrawing against Norwich for example, on the same day we played terribly but got a result against Wigan.

#KEEPTHEFAITH


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheChipPrince on November 01, 2011, 10:14:00 AM
Do you think you'll finish in the top 7?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 01, 2011, 10:21:01 AM
Spurs were "tested" against Manchester City and Manchester United. They lost 0-3 and 1-5.

Chelsea have "tested" themselves against Manchester United and Arsenal. They've lost 1-3 and 3-5.

Arsenal were "tested" against Manchester United. They failed miserably and lost 2-8. They also lost to Spurs.

Manchester United were "tested" against Manchester City. They failed their miserably test, lost 1-6.

So everyone who have been tested have failed bar Manchester City. What is this test that other supporters and experts are on about? Whether we can challenge for the title? I'm not saying we'll finish where we are, but overlooking the sides that we've brushed aside is just plain stupidit

We are the second team to beat Stoke away in the premiership right? We beat Sunderland away when we had a really really small and weak squad. We were tested and we passed with flying fucking colours.

We showed grit and determination to come back against Tottenham and ARsenal at home. If they had beaten us they would both me ahead of us in the table right now.

The premier league is a total different kettle of fish than 6 years ago. Almost every team is littered with internationals. Beating these teams reguarly IS THE TEST for the better teams. Liverpool fdrawing against Norwich for example, on the same day we played terribly but got a result against Wigan.

#KEEPTHEFAITH

All biased bollox. You've done well granted but are by far and away over achieving. All this BS about no easy games is also BS> most teams in the prem are poor


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 10:24:25 AM
Yeh but then why can't Liverpool who have spent 100m+ beat little Norwich?

Also QPR after they had a really good qwweek away and came flying out the traps is a hard challenge too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 10:26:32 AM
Do you think you'll finish in the top 7?

I think its certainly possible.

Do I think we have a top 7 team (on paper) no.

Do I think we have a top 7 team (performance wise) absolutely.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 01, 2011, 10:27:45 AM
Yeh but then why can't Liverpool who have spent 100m+ beat little Norwich?

Also QPR after they had a really good qwweek away and came flying out the traps is a hard challenge too.

As stated- most teams in the prem are poor. I think the past couple of years have been the lowest standard in 10 years of the prem. No one seems to be able to defend.

Liverpool spent 100m. But 35 mill on Andy Carroll and 20 odd million on Jordan Henderson. I'd rate them at around 20m for the pair. Pool got ripped off.

Plus you're always gonna get freak results- just look at where Newcastle are in the table ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 10:34:58 AM
Enrique, Henderson, Adam, Suarez, Carroll, Downing

All HUGE signings in the last 12 months or so.

Nolan, Barton, Carroll, Enrique.

All HUGE losses in the last 12 months or so.

Ok so if the prem is a bad standard and we are playing really, really well (best defensive record with Ryan Taylor at LB!) then it means we deserve and could well finish to be in a European place. Right?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 10:37:34 AM
Saylor has been incred so far this season continuing his form at the back end of last season. Williamson is a defender that doesnt do anything flash but just wins everything in the air, hes a stopper I guess. Like against the mackems we put him inbetween Saylor and Collocini and just let him hoover everything up, it also allows us to change to 3-5-2 if we need to.

Jonas has more energy/drive/pace than almost anybody in the prem, he doesnt have a great end product, but carrying the ball and keeping pressure off away from home is super important and very undervalued. He's also great at working back, part of the reason Enrique got so much praise was down to Jonas.

Goals could be a struggle, but if we concede alot less (i think we will) we dont need to score as many as last season. Losing Nolans goals, but keeping possesion/not being overran in midfiled by athletic mdifielders is definitetly better imo.



Basically what I said 2/3 months ago.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 01, 2011, 10:41:52 AM
Enrique, Henderson, Adam, Suarez, Carroll, Downing

All HUGE signings in the last 12 months or so.

Nolan, Barton, Carroll, Enrique.

All HUGE losses in the last 12 months or so.

Ok so if the prem is a bad standard and we are playing really, really well (best defensive record with Ryan Taylor at LB!) then it means we deserve and could well finish to be in a European place. Right?

Suaraz and Enrique aside, Liverpool overpaid for their players imo.

No doubt you could qualify for Europe. But would u really want to? Seems like a poisoned chalice to me (unless it's CL)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on November 01, 2011, 11:32:40 AM
Do you think you'll finish in the top 7?

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/w-o-big-6 (http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/w-o-big-6)

Certainly couldn´t back Newcastle at these prices.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 01, 2011, 11:44:31 AM
Wow. I think blonde are really underrating Newcastle this season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 01, 2011, 11:45:41 AM
Wow. I think blonde are really underrating Newcastle this season.

Where do you think they'll finish?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 01, 2011, 11:52:28 AM
Wow. I think blonde are really underrating Newcastle this season.

Where do you think they'll finish?
7th.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 01, 2011, 11:53:24 AM
Wow. I think blonde are really underrating Newcastle this season.

Where do you think they'll finish?
7th.

I'd deffo take the over


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2011, 01:57:03 PM
I think we could get 7th also, no better, but 7th is possible with the start we've had. Not inc the top 6, who is much better than us ?

I very rarely agree with Pads, ldo, but it's bs to just say we've won easy games, Sunderland away is not an easy game, neither is Stoke, we where also very unlucky not to beat Villa away, Given had one of his games. Yes we are overachieving, yes we are having some luck, but Pardew and the team deserve credit for what they've done this season, our defensive record is insanely good. I've watched nearly every game this season, they only game we have been poor in was QPR, other than that we've played very well. We have some week spots in the team but Cabaye and Tiote are both top class players imo, Krul looks like his time has come, Collocini is a quality defender and Ba is on a roll that could last a while.

As I said at the start of the season though, once we get injuries, which we will, it's gg.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 02:04:31 PM
We have Guthire, Gosling, WIlliamson, Ben Arfa, Marveux, Shola, Sammy all  to come in remember.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2011, 02:08:12 PM
We have Guthire, Gosling, WIlliamson, Ben Arfa, Marveux, Shola, Sammy all  to come in remember.

Ben Arfa will be a 1st team player soon I hope, think he needs to play the VDV role though as Pardew doesn't want him out wide and he isn't getting a game in CM.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 01, 2011, 02:15:02 PM
I also think you will strengthen in January. French press have been reporting it's a done deal for that striker you tried to sign in the Summer.
Not seen him much but Chatty man's dad is on fire with his finds at the moment.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
We have Guthire, Gosling, WIlliamson, Ben Arfa, Marveux, Shola, Sammy all  to come in remember.

Ben Arfa will be a 1st team player soon I hope, think he needs to play the VDV role though as Pardew doesn't want him out wide and he isn't getting a game in CM.

Sure is getting anywhere near Besty atm.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 03:35:41 PM
post from another forum;

By just browsing the tables from the past 5 or 6 seasons, it seems that roughly 60 points is the target if you want to get 7th, which I think is a realistic, if slightly ambitious, target for us.

I think we'll be competing with teams like Everton, Sunderland and Villa, so I'll be tracking their results here as well.

Anyway, what I'm going to track is basically the actual points a team gets vs the expected points the team is supposed to get. I think the Premiership table at certain points of the season doesn't tell the full picture. Many times, teams that have good or bad starts only do so because the quality of the opposition, and it's not a true reflection of the quality of the team, so if you know how you're performing against how you're supposed to perform, then it can be comforting (or not). Chelsea, for example, started last season very well because they faced quite a lot of s*** teams.

Anyway, to get 58 points in a season - why 58? because the formula works better - you can lose all your matches against the top 6 away from home and draw against them at home. That gives you 6 expected points from 12 matches.

Then against everyone else, you're expected to win all your home games and draw all your away games, which is (13x3 + 13x1) = 52.

52 + 6 = 58. If any of Villa, Everton, Sunderland or us gets 58 points, I think that it'd be good enough for 7th place.

So, so far, we got one point against Arsenal, which was expected. Villa got a point away at Fulham, which was expected, Everton haven't played, while Sunderland actually got a point away at Liverpool, which is one more than was expected for them. Bolton won away from home, so they're at +2, Stoke got a point at home against a top 6 team so they're at 0.

Season: Up to Gameweek 10
Newcastle (+6)
Stoke (-1)
Everton (-3)
West Brom (-4)
Sunderland, Bolton (-6)
Villa (-7)
Fulham (-8)

August results - GW 1 to 3
Newcastle, Stoke (+2)
Bolton (+1)
Everton (-1)
Sunderland, Villa (-2)
Fulham, West Brom (-4)

Actual Table after August
Newcastle (7)
Stoke, Villa (5)
Bolton, Everton (3)
Sunderland (2)
Fulham (1)
West Brom (0)

Even though West Brom have zero points so far, they are actually all right because of the tough set of fixtures that they've had - edit, actually they've had a real s*** run to start the season, they're already -4 behind the target. We're top of this little table so far, and doing better than we're expected to do. And although Bolton have only three points, they're still only one behind what they're expected to do, so they have some easy fixtures to come. It's still early doors so neither table is settled, but it gives a good indicator of the difficulty of the early fixtures so far, with Fulham having a completely miserable start to the season.

September results - GW 4 to 6
Stoke (+1)
Newcastle (0)
West Brom (-1)
Everton, Villa, Sunderland, Fulham (-2)
Bolton (-4)

Actual table after September
Newcastle (12)
Stoke (9)
Villa (8)
Everton (7)
Sunderland (5)
West Brom, Fulham (4)
Bolton (3)

We did well in September. We held our own, got the points that we were supposed to get and won the match that we needed to win, so we're still +2 in the table. Stoke had another good month, playing a few tough fixtures and getting one more point than expected. Even though they're 3 behind us in the actual table, they will have a bunch of easier fixtures. Comparing us and Everton is actually pretty interesting because they're actually 5 behind us in the actual table and in the expected table. At this point, both teams were expected to get 10 points, but Everton have only 7 while we have 12. So our 'ead over them is a strong lead which hasn't been boosted by easy fixtures. Looking ahead to GW 11, they're expected to get 1 point at home to Liverpool while we're expected to get 1 point away to Wolves. Both relatively difficult fixtures, but hopefully we come out with two more points from this weekend. Bolton had a miserable month but they've had many difficult fixtures so they will have the opportunity to make up the points in the actual table. They are interestingly tied with Everton in the expected table, which shows how tough their opening fixtures have been, although September was brutal for them. Fulham and West Brom have both had horrible starts, backed up by the actual table and the expected table.

October results - GW 7 to 10
Newcastle (+4)
West Brom (+1)
Everton (0)
Sunderland, Fulham (-2)
Bolton (-3)
Villa (-3)
Stoke (-4)

Actual table after October results
Newcastle (22)
Villa, Stoke (12)
West Brom (11)
Everton, Fulham, Sunderland (10)
Bolton (6)

It was a brilliant month for us. +4 is amazing, with the two away wins doing the job for us. We're flying high in this projected table and in the actual table as well. There's not much to say about us, really. Villa continue to drop easy points and now their position in the actual table is starting to reflect the amount of points that they've dropped so far. They also have a lot of difficult fixtures coming up so I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up near 15th by the halfway stage of the season. Most of the other teams did ok this month, and of course the fact that most teams dropped behind the target isn't a surprise since it's expected that only one team will come near 58 points.

Looking ahead, November is actually a pretty chilled month for us because we aren't expected to pick up that many points, but the Everton match is actually crucial because a loss will mean a 5 point swing; -3 for us, +2 for them, so hopefully we can win and have a lead of 10 points in the expected table, and 15 points in the real table.

I think it's also pretty noteworthy that we are +6 overall if we're targeting 7th, but we're +2 if we're targeting 4th (70 points - win all your home games, draw away against everyone but the top 6), and interestingly Liverpool are at 0 if they're targeting 4th. ;) It's just something that I don't think many expected before the start of the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: relaedgc on November 01, 2011, 03:38:45 PM
Liverpool spent no where close to £100m, once you consider how much we made in selling Torres et all. What was made was simply re-invested to create a younger squad with an eye to the future.

I don't think they've been particular poor, but they are vulnerable defensively (which seems to be a weakness effecting everyone except Newcastle in the top half of the Prem). Norwich had their goal barraged and were fortunate to survive without conceding given the plethora of chances. Bad finishing, in essence.

Newcastle? Fantastic performance all round yet no one is going to seriously sit up and pay attention until you spank United 3-0 at Old Trafford. Please do.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 01, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
Newcastle? Fantastic performance all round yet no one is going to seriously sit up and pay attention until you spank United 3-0 at Old Trafford. Please do.

have to beat Man City and make sure we're the only unbeaten team in the Prem first ;)

which we will ldo.

Made a bet with some people before Wigan game that from Stoke, Everton, Citeh, Utd, Chelski and Norwich we'd get more than 7 points.

After stoke game, people wanting to buy out.

Complete dream world atm though and it won't last, but I'm going to enjoy it whilst it does!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on November 01, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
Genuine question as I´m interested in a few of the other teams (Everton, West Brom and Fulham) in the betting without the top 6 market. Is there any reason why Ashley won´t be continuing with the asset stripping policy during the January transfer window?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
Genuine question as I´m interested in a few of the other teams (Everton, West Brom and Fulham) in the betting without the top 6 market. Is there any reason why Ashley won´t be continuing with the asset stripping policy during the January transfer window?

Everyone at the club has a price, that is for sure.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 01, 2011, 08:06:06 PM
What is the asset stripping that people talk about? Since being promoted I can't think of a bad deal they have made.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 08:07:57 PM
Agreed, almost every deal has been phenominally good. Literally every one.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 01, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
Agreed, almost every deal has been phenominally good. Literally every one.

Agreed if your goal is profit maximisation.  Most supporters prefer trophy maximisation.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on November 01, 2011, 08:13:43 PM
What is the asset stripping that people talk about? Since being promoted I can't think of a bad deal they have made.

Might well just be a bad turn of phrase from me, I had "cashing in" at first but edited it out as it didn´t sound right. I´m just trying to get a feel for the likelihood of someone like Coloccini being sold in January and not properly replaced.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2011, 08:19:25 PM
What is the asset stripping that people talk about? Since being promoted I can't think of a bad deal they have made.

Might well just be a bad turn of phrase from me, I had "cashing in" at first but edited it out as it didn´t sound right. I´m just trying to get a feel for the likelihood of someone like Coloccini being sold in January and not properly replaced.

A little while ago there was take of a new contract made and Colo wants to stay so hopefully that will happen, I don't see anyone else leaving in January, Tiote is away for African Nations so doubt anything will happen there.

Other than Barton leaving for free and Enrique, where there was nothing they could do about it, there hasn't been any outgoings that have been wrong.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 01, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
Chelsea and #NUFC currently have played four games in common. QPR (a) Mackems (a) Arsenal (h) and Stoke (a) NUFC 8 points, Chelsea 4 points

#testusbro


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on November 01, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
Cheers Monda, will probably back West Brom (18-1) and Fulham (16-1) largely to do with the management (no confidence in Pardew when times get tough) at each of the clubs.

I actually really like Newcastle, behind the 2 teams I supported since I was a kid and watch regularly (Swansea and Spurs) they are my favourite side so I wish them well, a nice solid eighth place finish would be perfect :-).


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2011, 10:38:05 PM
Cheers Monda, will probably back West Brom (18-1) and Fulham (16-1) largely to do with the management (no confidence in Pardew when times get tough) at each of the clubs.

I actually really like Newcastle, behind the 2 teams I supported since I was a kid and watch regularly (Swansea and Spurs) they are my favourite side so I wish them well, a nice solid eighth place finish would be perfect :-).

Fwiw I'll be suprised if we don't finish ahead of both of them, but you are a lot shrewder than me :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on November 01, 2011, 10:45:58 PM
Norwich (just missing a top quality striker, and have the cb from Liverpool to return from injury) or QPR (will spend £15-20M in Jan) are the best bets for value for a top 7 there.

Newcastle will be 7th or 8th. Depends how they will cope after not winning away to man city, man utd, or home to Chelsea I guess (Can see only one point from that lot).


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 01, 2011, 10:53:31 PM
What makes you think QPR will spend £15-20m?  and even if they did do you really think that will turn around this QPR team.  i think they are good things to go down to be honest.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on November 01, 2011, 10:57:42 PM
Fernandes and Warnock have said they want 5 more players in Jan.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on November 01, 2011, 10:59:25 PM
I would be pretty happy to lay Newcastle w/big 6... all this chat about 7th and 8th place is a bit deluded after a few fortunate wins/draws.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on November 01, 2011, 11:03:46 PM
Well they matched Spurs who are 5th after playing everyone in top 7 except Chelsea.

They just have hungry players, but could easily blow up after defeats away to city and united soon.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on November 01, 2011, 11:07:42 PM
Well they matched Spurs who are 5th after playing everyone in top 7 except Chelsea.

They just have hungry players, but could easily blow up after defeats away to city and united soon.

dont get me wrong, i agree that they have done well.  lets not forget that they were very lucky vs wigan and didnt QPR give them a real good run for there money but couldn't finish?

Ba has been playing out of his skin, that won't continue forever as he hasn't become a world class striker overnight.

just think all the hype is a bit ridic really.

quite happy to lay a bit on here if somebody wants a bit better than 7/4 etc.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 01, 2011, 11:13:06 PM
Quarter of the season gone and they're 9 points clear. Not certainties by a long way but deserve to be mentioned. I thought Stoke and Everton would be the main competition so a win on Saturday would be good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on November 01, 2011, 11:16:47 PM
Quarter of the season gone and they're 9 points clear. Not certainties by a long way but deserve to be mentioned. I thought Stoke and Everton would be the main competition so a win on Saturday would be good.

i'm not saying they don't deserve to be mentioned just a little shocked that so many people, in fairness not all on this thread, are going on about how many points they are behind man city etc... they should be working towards 40 points... ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on November 01, 2011, 11:18:42 PM
what price would i get on less than 10 points for newc in next 10 games?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2011, 11:34:20 PM
Quarter of the season gone and they're 9 points clear. Not certainties by a long way but deserve to be mentioned. I thought Stoke and Everton would be the main competition so a win on Saturday would be good.

i'm not saying they don't deserve to be mentioned just a little shocked that so many people, in fairness not all on this thread, are going on about how many points they are behind man city etc... they should be working towards 40 points... ;)

Nobody other than Pads maybe has said this ?

I just don't think anyone outside the top 6 are that good, and with the headstart we have, we have a decent chance. People keep talking about luck, our defensive record isn't luck, we wern't very lucky against Wigan, we won a scrappy game at home against a poor team, pretty std. I'm not getting carrierd away, we are similar in ability to a bunch of other teams in this lge, and our great start gives us an adv over them. We should've came 8th last season if it wasn't for the joke result against WBA last game of the season, so after the start we've had this season I don't think 7th or 8th is an unrealistic target at this point.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on November 01, 2011, 11:38:20 PM
Best price 7-4. Can have 9-4 with me any amount Newcastle wo big 6. Win only- and unless i know u personally will have to escrow to avoid another trade-king debacle

Best price 1-3 top 10, can have 4-9 with me any amount, same terms as above.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 02, 2011, 02:17:01 AM
This is a really fair offer.  I think Newcastle are massively overrated and I sm half tempted so anyone who thinks they are decent should be snapping Dubais hand off.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 02, 2011, 06:20:42 AM
Agreed, almost every deal has been phenominally good. Literally every one.

Agreed if your goal is profit maximisation.  Most supporters prefer trophy maximisation.

you win more trophies with Ba than with Carroll imo.

And Barton is just an arse, gave it the whole 'kiss the badge' routine and then still walked away when he could have stayed. As for Enrique...meh, big fish in a decent team but doesn't look too good for Liverpool so far.

Long story short, it's not asset stripping if people give you insane amounts of money for average ability players.

Colo not going anyway in Jan for sure. Could be hard to hold on to Tiote and Krul in the summer though I think, but hopefully not.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on November 02, 2011, 08:02:02 AM
I was going to make a similar albeit substantially less generous (15/8 rather than 9/4) offer to the one Dubai has made, decided against as no point (for me) in tying up large amounts of money in escrow when there are other ways to exploit the fact that the market substantially overrates Newcastle.

It is surprising to me to see so many people basically coming out in support of Ashley´s decision making.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 02, 2011, 08:02:23 AM
Agreed, almost every deal has been phenominally good. Literally every one.

Agreed if your goal is profit maximisation.  Most supporters prefer trophy maximisation.

you win more trophies with Ba than with Carroll imo.

And Barton is just an arse, gave it the whole 'kiss the badge' routine and then still walked away when he could have stayed. As for Enrique...meh, big fish in a decent team but doesn't look too good for Liverpool so far.

Long story short, it's not asset stripping if people give you insane amounts of money for average ability players.

Colo not going anyway in Jan for sure. Could be hard to hold on to Tiote and Krul in the summer though I think, but hopefully not.

There's no way Enrique is a "fish", very good player and I'm pretty sure Liverpool fans have been impressed with him so far.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 02, 2011, 08:04:17 AM
I was going to make a similar albeit substantially less generous (15/8 rather than 9/4) offer to the one Dubai has made, decided against as no point (for me) in tying up large amounts of money in escrow when there are other ways to exploit the fact that the market substantially overrates Newcastle.

It is surprising to me to see so many people basically coming out in support of Ashley´s decision making.

Again, other than Pads (he's a nutter ldo), haven't seen anyone supporting Ashley's decision making, the man is an abs clown and it would seem a massive luckbox too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 09:31:44 AM
I was going to make a similar albeit substantially less generous (15/8 rather than 9/4) offer to the one Dubai has made, decided against as no point (for me) in tying up large amounts of money in escrow when there are other ways to exploit the fact that the market substantially overrates Newcastle.

It is surprising to me to see so many people basically coming out in support of Ashley´s decision making.

Again, other than Pads (he's a nutter ldo), haven't seen anyone supporting Ashley's decision making, the man is an abs clown and it would seem a massive luckbox too.

Please state 5 bad business decisions he has made since we were relegated. If he's an abs clown it shouldn't be too hard.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on November 02, 2011, 09:50:47 AM
I´ll go with getting rid of Hughton, Enrique and Barton, appointing Pardew and failing to invest the Carroll money (incred business getting that much money for him) in a striker/left back. All likely to be very bad for the club´s long term future.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 10:10:54 AM
I´ll go with getting rid of Hughton



Clearly not. He was doing a job, but brining pPardew in has done absolute miracles. Out of a recent poll of over 1k fans, voer 80% of fans said Pardew had done "brilliant"


Enrique

He wanted to leave? Our team is full fo players who WANT TO PLAY for us and will run through brick walls. His contract was up at the end of the year so getting £6m was fine, fine business giving the circumstances. Possibly they could have sold him for £10m at start of summer. We also replaced him with Davide Santon who was cheaper and has alotttttt of potential and is already a full Italian international and described as Mourinho as "Phenominal"

Barton

He was disrupotive and demanded £80k per week and a long contract, Ashley has put restrictions on wages like Arsenal did and won't give in to anybody. Bye bye Nolan, Bye bye Joey.


appointing Pardew

Just can't understand this one mate.

failing to invest the Carroll money (incred business getting that much money for him) in a striker/left back. All likely to be very bad for the club´s long term future.

We signed Tiote, Ben Arfa, Obertan, Ba, Cabaye, Santon, Elliot, Abeid and probably more who are ALL players for the future so doesn't seem to be "very bad" for the clubs long term future. Going out and buying random players for 10m a pop would have been BAD business.

We also left ourself money to spend in January and invest and build the squad where others may have skinted themselves in September.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on November 02, 2011, 10:13:05 AM
Pardew is a complete dick but when the team runs good no one can question him, he has done amazing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on November 02, 2011, 10:21:38 AM
it's only a matter of time until pards is caught up to his old tricks and loses the dressing room like he has at every previous club


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 10:21:51 AM
Pardew is a complete dick but when the team runs good no one can question him, he has done amazing.

I thought so too, but now I think the complete opposite.

Absolutely fantastic man manager. Leon Best came off the other night after playing amazingly and not scoring, the Irish manager has been slating him all month and as he came off the fans gave him a fantastic reception, instead of standing there and shaking hands with the striker or ignoring him completely like Mancini or some others would, he turned him around and showed him 2000 barmy Geordies singing leon best leon best, leeooooooon leooooons bessst. He gets the best out of everyone and everybody loves playing for him.

After the amtch he also talks straight, if we're lucky, he sais we've been lucky, if we got a penalty we didn't deserve. He will tell you.

<3 him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on November 02, 2011, 10:28:35 AM
He treats people other than the players like utter fuking shite. Everyone at Charlton hated him and I know this for a fact, he was so disliked from top to bottom people quit their jobs to avoid having to deal with his shit he would hand out daily. That being said he may have changed since then and know how lucky he was to get a top job at Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 02, 2011, 11:01:52 AM
I was going to make a similar albeit substantially less generous (15/8 rather than 9/4) offer to the one Dubai has made, decided against as no point (for me) in tying up large amounts of money in escrow when there are other ways to exploit the fact that the market substantially overrates Newcastle.

It is surprising to me to see so many people basically coming out in support of Ashley´s decision making.

Again, other than Pads (he's a nutter ldo), haven't seen anyone supporting Ashley's decision making, the man is an abs clown and it would seem a massive luckbox too.

Please state 5 bad business decisions he has made since we were relegated. If he's an abs clown it shouldn't be too hard.

Why since we where relegated, is before then not relevant ?

I dislike him and think he is a poor chairman, he is clearly learning "on the job" but some of the decisions he's made regards cheaper season tickets etc should be applauded. Not getting a striker in was a joke and unless we run like God we will regret that at some point in the near future. There has to be a balance between running a club profititably and trying to be competitive, the fact we are where we are is down to many factors, none of which revolve around Mike Ashley's decision making and he would be more than happy to see us struggle and finish lower bottom half of the table as long as we stayed up every season.

As I said in an earlier post though, outside of the top 6 there isn't much to worry about and hopefully team morale will stay high and Pardew will continue to get it right.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 11:08:55 AM
http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/manchester-united-scout-17m-rated-newcastle-midfielder-ahead-of-shock-offer-12145/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 11:09:59 AM
I was going to make a similar albeit substantially less generous (15/8 rather than 9/4) offer to the one Dubai has made, decided against as no point (for me) in tying up large amounts of money in escrow when there are other ways to exploit the fact that the market substantially overrates Newcastle.

It is surprising to me to see so many people basically coming out in support of Ashley´s decision making.

Again, other than Pads (he's a nutter ldo), haven't seen anyone supporting Ashley's decision making, the man is an abs clown and it would seem a massive luckbox too.

Please state 5 bad business decisions he has made since we were relegated. If he's an abs clown it shouldn't be too hard.

Why since we where relegated, is before then not relevant ?

He put his hands up, said he had made a mistake and built a new 5 year action plan for the club.

Everybody deserves a second chance.

Also if he hadn't listened to the fans, Keegan & Shearer appointments then we probably wouldn't have been relegated initially.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 02, 2011, 11:23:30 AM
I was going to make a similar albeit substantially less generous (15/8 rather than 9/4) offer to the one Dubai has made, decided against as no point (for me) in tying up large amounts of money in escrow when there are other ways to exploit the fact that the market substantially overrates Newcastle.

It is surprising to me to see so many people basically coming out in support of Ashley´s decision making.

Again, other than Pads (he's a nutter ldo), haven't seen anyone supporting Ashley's decision making, the man is an abs clown and it would seem a massive luckbox too.

Please state 5 bad business decisions he has made since we were relegated. If he's an abs clown it shouldn't be too hard.

Why since we where relegated, is before then not relevant ?

He put his hands up, said he had made a mistake and built a new 5 year action plan for the club.

Everybody deserves a second chance.

Also if he hadn't listened to the fans, Keegan & Shearer appointments then we probably wouldn't have been relegated initially.

That bit is just absolute bullshit Pads and you sound like a clueless Southerner who's only knowledge is reading the daily rags. Keegan was Ashley's inspired decision because he knew of the fans relationship with him and thought it was a great PR stunt, I remember his re-appointment and everybody was shocked that it happened so it had nothing to with the fans. As for Shearer, lol, not many fans wanted him to get the job, Shearer isn't anywhere as near as popular up here as people think and I don't remember speaking to anybody that was that pleased about him being manager.

Following the Keegan appointment, Ashley and Llambias spent the next 18 months, minimum, doing there absolute best to consistently make the worst possible decisions to alienate the fans. So yes, people do deserve a second chance, but, that doesn't mean fans should ignore his diabolical running of the club for quite a while because we are running good at the minute.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
What are the worst decisions in those 18 months?

They brought in Graham Carr which has been one of the bets things the club has done since I was born. When I was 5-16 all I heard my Dad moan about was our awful scouting system. We bought players off fucking youtube clips wiuth Souness ffs.

Ashley initially set out trying to sit with the fans, be everybodies best friend, get his top off, sing chants and I think this is where the Keegan appointment came from. He loved the fact he could sing the blaydon races in blue bamboo, I htink it was more of a hobby and pastime for him, He then realised he;'d fucked up and had lost alot of money, he hired the right people, gave us an excellent 5 year plan and started rebuilding making correct business decisions.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 02, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
If Pardew is a great manager and Ashley is astute enough to see it Pardew will not get fired in the next two years.  I find this impossible to believe.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 12:32:01 PM
what price you give me he'll be here in Xmas 2013?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on November 02, 2011, 12:37:53 PM
@pleno1

Not too keen to debate a lot of the specifics, no one will achieve much and I´m sure you know more about certain details of your own football club than I do. Pardew has an established record as a failure and as a divisive force at his former clubs, replacing Hughton with him is almost certainly a mistake, the fans poll is meaningless.

I´m totally confident that Newcastle are the wrong price for the top 7, I´m not totally sure whether or not you´re telling me I´m wrong but if you are it would be a bit like me trying to tell you how to play poker, I was pretty handy in 2005/6 (ask Alex M) :-) but I haven´t played much since then.

None of this is meant to sound argumentative so apologies if it does and obviously none of it means I have any ill feeling towards Newcastle. Did I mention I reckon Everton look a big price at the weekend? :-)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 12:48:51 PM
Sorry if sound argumentative too.

#KEEPTHEFAITH


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 02, 2011, 02:23:56 PM
what price you give me he'll be here in Xmas 2013?

I'll lay you evens which is pretty fair considering you think he will have won you the Champions League, Strictly Come Dancing and the Irish Littery by then.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 02:45:44 PM
Enjoy the championship mate. I literally have no idea who is your manager atm btw, Gordon?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 02, 2011, 03:07:09 PM
the Irish Littery

Sounds like rubbish to me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on November 02, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
Agreed, almost every deal has been phenominally good. Literally every one.

Agreed if your goal is profit maximisation.  Most supporters prefer trophy maximisation.

you win more trophies with Ba than with Carroll imo.

And Barton is just an arse, gave it the whole 'kiss the badge' routine and then still walked away when he could have stayed. As for Enrique...meh, big fish in a decent team but doesn't look too good for Liverpool so far.

Long story short, it's not asset stripping if people give you insane amounts of money for average ability players.

Colo not going anyway in Jan for sure. Could be hard to hold on to Tiote and Krul in the summer though I think, but hopefully not.

As a Liverpool fan I can confirm that Enrique has been immense since he arrived, sound defensively, strong as an ox, cant be pushed off a ball and no little skills bombing forward either



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2011, 05:42:11 PM
team against Everton last season

  Harper
S. Taylor - Williamson - Coloccini - Jose Enrique
Simpson    -     Tiote    -     Nolan    -   Gutierrez
                    Lovenkrands - Best


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 03, 2011, 09:24:11 AM
All this thread demonstrates is the fickle nature of fans. A few good results and suddenly no one cares that Hughton was treated like shit and when it was announced pardew was replacing him Newcastle fans went crazy and neutrals just laughed at Newcastle.

Same with Ashley. You all wanted him out/hated him, spoke about him selling your best players etc. Now its like "Great deal etc etc"


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on November 03, 2011, 09:33:24 AM
All this thread demonstrates is the fickle nature of fans. A few good results and suddenly no one cares that Hughton was treated like shit and when it was announced pardew was replacing him Newcastle fans went crazy and neutrals just laughed at Newcastle.

Same with Ashley. You all wanted him out/hated him, spoke about him selling your best players etc. Now its like "Great deal etc etc"

so this

cant wait till jan when you have 32 pts and ashley sells everyone

(thats not true as i love nctle, but the fans are wearing their geordie blinkers atm)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 03, 2011, 09:51:21 AM
Just read the Chris Hughton Sacked thread. Think I was the only one on it to say it wasn't a horrible decision.
Also found this gem - "Any manager who agrees to a regime like that will never get my backing"
Obv can only come from one man.
Opinions change though and hindsight is a wonderful thing. If you thought it was a bad decision surely it's fair rather than fickle to admit you got it wrong and Ashley got it right?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 03, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QCcMTHCBJ4c/TVClCImP6WI/AAAAAAAAFhc/J3oji1mRyG4/s1600/Haters%2BGonna%2BHate.jpg)

#KEEPTHEFAITH


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 03, 2011, 09:55:43 AM
Just read the Chris Hughton Sacked thread. Think I was the only one on it to say it wasn't a horrible decision.
Also found this gem - "Any manager who agrees to a regime like that will never get my backing"
Obv can only come from one man.
Opinions change though and hindsight is a wonderful thing. If you thought it was a bad decision surely it's fair rather than fickle to admit you got it wrong and Ashley got it right?

Absolutely, I have said I was a doubter. I gave up my season ticket when it happened as did my father who by the way will never go to a game when Ashley is in charge.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Matt50 on November 03, 2011, 10:28:43 AM
it's only a matter of time until pards is caught up to his old tricks and loses the dressing room like he has at every previous club

Depends whether he fancies any of the players wives though ;-)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 03, 2011, 12:05:07 PM
All this thread demonstrates is the fickle nature of fans. A few good results and suddenly no one cares that Hughton was treated like shit and when it was announced pardew was replacing him Newcastle fans went crazy and neutrals just laughed at Newcastle.

Same with Ashley. You all wanted him out/hated him, spoke about him selling your best players etc. Now its like "Great deal etc etc"

There's not one Newcastle fan who doesn't think robbing Liverpool for £35m for Carroll was excellent business. Most would tell you that selling Nolan and Barton (because they didn't want to stay on reasonable terms) is fine as well. As for Enrique, sure, he's a good player, but he didn't want to stay because he thought Liverpool would help him get into the Spanish team (no chance in next 2 years in any event, maybe longer).

Most will begrudgingly accept that Ashley has turned around a lot and is making good decisions based on taking the football club forward for the next 5 and 10 years, not like Freddy Shepard who thought exclusively about the next 5 months at any given time.

For the record, I care very deeply that Chris Hughton was treated like shit. Top bloke and will be an amazing manager for someone, shame it wasn't us. But what can you do about it? Not a lot, so support the guy who's come in and really kicked us on a level post-Hughton. Time will tell of course, but I think there's a fair chance we finish about Liverpool this year, which would represent an amazing achievement when you consider that we've sold our two 'best' players to them.

And Sir Alex, re signing Cabaye.... gtfo pls.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 03, 2011, 12:45:33 PM
All this thread demonstrates is the fickle nature of fans. A few good results and suddenly no one cares that Hughton was treated like shit and when it was announced pardew was replacing him Newcastle fans went crazy and neutrals just laughed at Newcastle.

Same with Ashley. You all wanted him out/hated him, spoke about him selling your best players etc. Now its like "Great deal etc etc"

Where is this being demonstrated itt George/Guy ? Other than Pads, who has said anything positive about Ashley that is a Newcastle fan ?

I still think the Hughton decision was wrong, I think both are of similar ability and have always thought that, I still think Ashley is a clown as I said on the previous page.





Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on November 03, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
What's the line on players in/players out in January?

What is the financial balance on the same line.

People suddenly thinking Ashley is doing "an ok job" is laughable as it is totally results oriented, to use poker phraseology. Don't kid yourself he has a footballing 5 year plan. He has a financial 5 year plan. And if you do well this year he would be out like a shot for a good offer, especially having seen what's happens to his stock value when you go down!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 03, 2011, 12:54:22 PM
Back to the team

TIM KRUL 9/10

The Dutch international has so far kept four clean sheets (one more than the class of 94) from the first 10 matches and has often been in inspired form, he also won the Chronicle’s player of the month award for September and has been a huge part of this fantastic start to the new campaign.

DANNY SIMPSON 7/10

Simpson has endured a few ups and downs but has still statistically matched some of the Premier League’s international stars.

FABRICIO COLOCCINI 9/10

The skipper has been nothing short of immense in the first 10 matches of the season and while many questioned his attributes to be captain, he has rose above it all to be a superb leader on and off the field.

STEVEN TAYLOR 9/10

Taylor’s understanding with Coloccini has been a joy to behold.

The player has been touted for an England call-up by some and has hit new levels of quality under Alan Pardew.

Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/11/03/how-this-nufc-side-compares-to-entertainers-72703-29711195/#.TrKKlZxy1ag.twitter#ixzz1ce8dwlpO


RYAN TAYLOR 9/10

The Scouser deserves extra credit for stepping into a position that he’s rarely occupied before in his career. Has been handed a great chance after the sale of Jose Enrique and so far grabbed it with both hands.

GABRIEL OBERTAN 7/10

Given that Obertan had been frozen out of the side under Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United, the Frenchman has spent the opening 10 games adjusting to life back in the first team fold on a regular basis but has covered plenty of ground.

His non-stop running and pace going forward has relieved pressure on the Toon’s back four and he chipped in with an assist against Stoke.

YOHAN CABAYE 8/10

Has proved to be an instant hero in black and white so far as he has emerged as one of the Premier League’s hardest workers. Has chipped in with an assist and a goal so far.

CHEICK TIOTE 8/10

Remains one of the Magpies’ biggest assets with his obsession with getting in the tough tackles making him a real hit with fans.

JONAS GUTIERREZ 8/10

The Argentina international has been in sparkling form for the Magpies since the start of the season, his big moment came at Wolves with a Maradona-esque run through the Wanderers defence and he has also weighed in with an assist.

DEMBA BA 8/10

Got off to a slow start at Newcastle due to his participation in the Muslim festival of Ramadan but the striker now looking like a real bargain for the Magpies.

He came to life against Blackburn with a hat-trick and hasn’t looked back.

Goals against Tottenham and Wolves, before another treble against Stoke City on Monday night, have had Toon fans chanting his name loudly up and down the country!

LEON BEST 8/10

The Nottingham lad just keeps on defying his critics and while he hasn’t netted since the away game at Aston Villa, which took him up to three goals and two assists for the season in nine games, he is always involved for the Magpies.

He had a hand in all three at Stoke and is due another for himself against Everton.

Also used: Shola Ameobi 7, Hatem Ben Arfa 7, Sylvain Marveaux 7, Davide Santon, Mike Williamson, Peter Lovenkrands 6, Haris Vuckic, Dan Gosling.

Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/11/03/how-this-nufc-side-compares-to-entertainers-72703-29711195/2/#ixzz1ce91TsR3



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 03, 2011, 12:56:07 PM
What's the line on players in/players out in January?

What is the financial balance on the same line.

Pads suddenly thinking Ashley is doing "an ok job" is laughable as it is totally results oriented, to use poker phraseology. Don't kid yourself he has a footballing 5 year plan. He has a financial 5 year plan. And if you do well this year he would be out like a shot for a good offer, especially having seen what's happens to his stock value when you go down!

FYP


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on November 04, 2011, 12:20:05 AM
Newcastle are doing great things for my w/o the big 6 bet, I really hope you can regain the momentum after the 3 incredibly hard games coming up but its gona be tough.

Pardew doing an unbelievable job.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 04, 2011, 12:24:48 AM
Newcastle are doing great things for my w/o the big 6 bet, I really hope you can regain the momentum after the 3 incredibly hard games coming up but its gona be tough.

Pardew doing an unbelievable job.

This was my concern also, but fixtures afterwards are pretty good.

Norwich (A)
Swansea (H)
West Brom (H)
Bolton (A)

Don't expect anything from Manchester games but not writing off Chelsea at home, we always play well at home against the "big" teams.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 04, 2011, 02:03:05 AM
Newcastle are doing great things for my w/o the big 6 bet, I really hope you can regain the momentum after the 3 incredibly hard games coming up but its gona be tough.

Pardew doing an unbelievable job.

agree. think we can take something from chelsea at home.

not expecting anything from Manchester either.


This was my concern also, but fixtures afterwards are pretty good.

Norwich (A)
Swansea (H)
West Brom (H)
Bolton (A)

Don't expect anything from Manchester games but not writing off Chelsea at home, we always play well at home against the "big" teams.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 04, 2011, 08:45:41 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 04, 2011, 09:53:43 AM
The Geordie businessman who galvanised Newcastle has backed Ashley strategy and expressed admiration for manager Alan Pardew following surprise unbeaten start to season.

Former Newcastle United owner Sir John Hall has hailed St James’ Park supremo Mike Ashley’s prudent ways following the Magpies’ storming start to the Premier League season.

Sir John, who sold the Tyneside club to the Sports Direct founder four years ago, has voiced his support for Ashley whose decision to keep a tight grip on the pursestrings at St James’ Park has been vindicated with Newcastle surging to third place in the Premier League following an unbeaten start to the league campaign.

In an exclusive interview with Goal.com, Sir John, who sanctioned the then world record £15 million signing of Alan Shearer in 1996, has backed Ashley’s strategy of adopting a cautious approach to running the club and signing new players in the face of competing against the likes of Chelsea’s billionaire owner Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour at Manchester City.

“The only thing fans wanted is for you to keep throwing your money into a club but you can’t keep doing that when you are competing with the likes of Chelsea because it is a recipe for bankruptcy unless you have a bottomless pit of money,” Sir John told Goal.com.

“Ashley runs his business by keeping a very tight rein on things and he is doing very, very well. Sports Direct has done exceptionally well since he founded the company and he has brought his business principles to St James’ Park.

“I don’t have as much money as Mike but I would probably be doing the same as him. In my day we were local millionaires such as Jack Walker at Blackburn, Dave Whelan at Wigan and Bill Kenwright at Everton and we put our money into our clubs because we were fans.

“But now the game is being run by billionaires and for me it is wrong and stupid if any English businessman tries to compete with these billionaires who are coming in and I don’t think are coming in for the right reasons. But is an open marketplace and a global business and it is going to grow bigger. But Ashley has a formula that is working and long may it continue.

“In my view when Roman Abramovich came in, the game in England changed forever and basically people threw money at it for reasons other than football. It is a global business but I don’t think the right thing is happening for the fans.”

Until this season, Ashley has been the subject of intense criticism from many Newcastle supporters - including Sir John himself - especially when the club was relegated from the Premier League and he has twice tried and failed to sell the club.

However, Sir John now believes he deserves praise from his former detractors.

“Mike Ashley has had a lot of unjustifiable criticism,” Sir John added. “With some of the headlines he has got in the local press, I would have walked away if I had got them. But probably he came in not knowing football.

“He took a lot of advice from friends of his in the south of England which wasn’t the sort of advice that Newcastle United needed and he suffered the consequences of it. He came in to the club to use Newcastle United as a brand to bolster his Sports Direct business and I still think that will happen.

“But he has got to be applauded for the position of the club at the moment. He spent money and he has bought players but he has bought the players he wants to buy and he is running the club in a manner which he wants to run it. He is a very astute businessman and he has got the team playing well and the club functioning well as a whole. He deserves credit and we should all be saying well done and carry on.”

Sir John, who revolutionised Newcastle when he appointed Kevin Keegan as manager, expressed admiration for the work of current boss Alan Pardew.

“I am very surprised by how well Alan Pardew is doing but I am also very pleased,” Sir John said.

“He left Southampton in difficult circumstances and there were a lot of dissenting voices because Chris Hughton was sacked to make way for him. Again you have to take your hat off to Pardew as well as to Ashley because of the influence that he has clearly had on the team.

“He is doing a great job. They attack with plenty of pace and guile and they are defensively sound which has not always been the case with Newcastle sides down the years.

“There have been some very good buys so Graham Carr who is doing the scouting for the club has done some great work. Cheik Tiote has been a tremendous buy and it is looking as though Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba will prove to be the same. Plus they are playing as a team which is great because the importance of playing for each other can not be over-stated."

Sir John is hoping that the club that has not won a major domestic honour since 1955 can win a trophy during Ashley’s watch.

“Everyone wants a winning team but we have always been the bridesmaid rather than the bride at Newcastle which is unfortunate,” Sir John said.

“We are a big club in the sense of the amount of supporters that we have got but we are not big in terms of winning things.

“With the amount of money that is being spent in the game it is getting harder and harder and harder to win things. It can be done but it will be tough. I just hope that we can finish in sixth place and get into Europe again and continue to build again - that would be great.”


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on November 04, 2011, 11:14:23 AM
My NUFC supporting workmate is cock a hoop this morning after reading Lawro's prediction for the Everton game.

An away win predicted on the basis that "Football has a nasty habit of biting you on the backside just when you think you have cracked it"

he get paid a lot for this sort of insight?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 04, 2011, 11:52:40 AM
lol Lawro is a fucking muppet.

With his predictions sop far he has us as 17th, Wigan 3 points ahead of us and Wolves in the top 5.

First class muppet.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 04, 2011, 01:02:47 PM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on November 04, 2011, 07:08:29 PM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 04, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Well, tbf they are the least fickle as they always win. Though I do remember a few years back some Man U nuggets where suggestion it was time for Fergie to go, LOL, that was even more ridiculous than Arsenal fans suggesting Wenger should go now.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 04, 2011, 07:56:51 PM
lol Lawro is a fucking muppet.

With his predictions sop far he has us as 17th, Wigan 3 points ahead of us and Wolves in the top 5.

First class muppet.

lawro predicts that we'll get relegated every year man. ridic.

he'll keep backing other teams to beat us (justifiable vs man city and man utd next up ofc, but imagine it was bolton and wolves or something, he'd do the same...) and then he will continue to predict our demise, saying that 'well, football has a habit (fave phrase of his) of kicking you when you're down'.

such a fucking wanker.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 04, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
In his defence he was an excellent defensive coach in his short spell up here, 10 games, conceded 8725681 goals, 0 clean sheets, yet somehow he got the sack, think he might possibly be a tiny little bit bitter about that.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 05, 2011, 01:30:37 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Can't be ficlkle when we're winning everything in sight. DUCY?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 05, 2011, 01:42:32 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Can't be ficlkle when we're winning everything in sight. DUCY?

I hear the Barca fans don't whinge much at all  ;nana;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 05, 2011, 01:47:37 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Can't be ficlkle when we're winning everything in sight. DUCY?

I hear the Barca fans don't whinge much at all  ;nana;

They're almost as good as newcastle

#wewillneverbedelusional


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 05, 2011, 01:56:21 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Can't be ficlkle when we're winning everything in sight. DUCY?

I hear the Barca fans don't whinge much at all  ;nana;

They're almost as good as newcastle

#wewillneverbedelusional

 rotflmfao


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on November 05, 2011, 01:57:01 AM
Well, for the fickle argument I guess the Rooney situation would be an example at Manure


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 05, 2011, 02:16:41 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Can't be ficlkle when we're winning everything in sight. DUCY?

I hear the Barca fans don't whinge much at all  ;nana;

They're almost as good as newcastle

#wewillneverbedelusional

 ;laxie;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 05, 2011, 02:30:16 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Can't be ficlkle when we're winning everything in sight. DUCY?

I hear the Barca fans don't whinge much at all  ;nana;

They're almost as good as newcastle

#wewillneverbedelusional

 ;laxie;

Lots of levelling itt ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 05, 2011, 02:31:30 AM
Well, for the fickle argument I guess the Rooney situation would be an example at Manure

Yes you're right. I said all football fans. Don't have to play the "My dad's bigger than your dad" line here. All fans do it. Including UNITED (for you BITB)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 05, 2011, 02:43:01 AM
Well, for the fickle argument I guess the Rooney situation would be an example at Manure

Yes you're right. I said all football fans. Don't have to play the "My dad's bigger than your dad" line here. All fans do it. Including UNITED (for you BITB)

Your earlier post was spot on, and it's one of the reasons I stopped giving a shit as much and stopped going to the games, too many "plastic" supporters.

This isn't a dig at Man U fans btw, the way football is now you get them all over.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on November 05, 2011, 03:27:53 AM
My comment wasn't just aimed at Newcastle but to footie fans in general. Same people who say he's doing an incred job will be the same people who will be calling for his head if it all goes tits up in 6 months time

I agree with you then, football fans are very fickle, especially man utd glory hunting fans.

FYP

Can't be ficlkle when we're winning everything in sight. DUCY?

Was just giving you an e.g !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on November 05, 2011, 01:00:19 PM
booooooooooooooooooooooom

 1-0 


og when ur running good ur running good


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on November 05, 2011, 01:16:44 PM
OMFG

WHAT A FKIN GOAL


HAWAY THE LADS


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on November 05, 2011, 02:40:39 PM
6-4 wo top 6 any amount
2-5 top 10 any amount

Both best price


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 05, 2011, 02:42:33 PM
FUKN GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Massive hold, buzzing, again.

WHO THE FUK ARE MAN UTD......


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on November 05, 2011, 02:44:00 PM
FUKN GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Massive hold, buzzing, again.

WHO THE FUK ARE MAN UTD......

Least u got the value kid :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 05, 2011, 02:45:16 PM
FUKN GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Massive hold, buzzing, again.

WHO THE FUK ARE MAN UTD......

Least u got the value kid :)

I'm thinking of names  ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on November 05, 2011, 02:45:37 PM
FUKN GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Massive hold, buzzing, again.

WHO THE FUK ARE MAN UTD......


 they're the fickle bunch in 3rd :D  the ones that win everything, including the record for most goals conceded against Man City in the prem record

whoooooooooo the fk are man utd...........


FLAT BEER FOOTBALL FTW :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on November 05, 2011, 02:49:41 PM
FUKN GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Massive hold, buzzing, again.

WHO THE FUK ARE MAN UTD......

Least u got the value kid :)

I'm thinking of names  ;)

haha quality


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 05, 2011, 03:50:06 PM
such a good fade those last twenty minutes tbh.

weeeeeeeeee


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 05, 2011, 03:53:05 PM
Sooooo happy, good result and nice hold in last 20mins, wasnt nice to watch, annoying with the midfielders we got injured, hopefully just knocks and the 2 week international break is long enough for them to get fit before playing the big 3.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 05, 2011, 04:27:17 PM
abs delihhted. we had some big injurys. if you could imagine 12 months ago ejem we had 6 points from first 11 ganes Guat. we would be in top 2 and beating everton with a midfield of sammy ameobi guthrie gosling and gutierez youd be laughed OIT of Newcastle. pards asid after the gane hes not integrares in the england role.

hube nexo fea weeks, lets do it


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 05, 2011, 04:29:32 PM
U drunk ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 05, 2011, 05:00:31 PM
U drunk ?

LMAO


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 06, 2011, 11:49:10 AM
colocini > pique

dscuss.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 06, 2011, 12:29:20 PM
colocini > pique

dscuss.

Huge fan of both, haven't seen enough of Pique to say, guess I'd take Pique due to age. Colo is amazing though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 06, 2011, 01:40:25 PM
Different sytles. Loving Colocini at the moment even though I thought he was a clown when Wednesday played him in the Championship.
I see him more as the enforcer, ball winning type and pique more as the footballer. Pique went of the boil for a bit but played a lot of football. May peak again in time for end of season and Euros.
I'd want to play them together rather than replace one with the other.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 06, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
Different sytles. Loving Colocini at the moment even though I thought he was a clown when Wednesday played him in the Championship.
I see him more as the enforcer, ball winning type and pique more as the footballer. Pique went of the boil for a bit but played a lot of football. May peak again in time for end of season and Euros.
I'd want to play them together rather than replace one with the other.

Doubt Pads would drop Taylor.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 06, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
ive previously been a hube saylor critica, but alongside coló he has been immense. abso lo es the tono.

ira so ridículo tío, he wad england u21 captain, progressed intolerancia srting for the best defensive cord in prem for a top 3 tema and cahill and jagielka etc all anead of him?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 06, 2011, 07:55:41 PM
ive previously been a hube saylor critica, but alongside coló he has been immense. abso lo es the tono.

ira so ridículo tío, he wad england u21 captain, progressed intolerancia srting for the best defensive cord in prem for a top 3 tema and cahill and jagielka etc all anead of him?

Do you have a spanish keyboard ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pokerfan on November 06, 2011, 08:05:07 PM
ive previously been a hube saylor critica, but alongside coló he has been immense. abso lo es the tono.

ira so ridículo tío, he wad england u21 captain, progressed intolerancia srting for the best defensive cord in prem for a top 3 tema and cahill and jagielka etc all anead of him?

Do you have a spanish keyboard ?
Julio Geordio itt !

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSXzRWlL7Z0


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on November 06, 2011, 11:50:18 PM
ive previously been a hube saylor critica, but alongside coló he has been immense. abso lo es the tono.

ira so ridículo tío, he wad england u21 captain, progressed intolerancia srting for the best defensive cord in prem for a top 3 tema and cahill and jagielka etc all anead of him?

Do you have a spanish keyboard ?


hahaha, i actually thought that before i read ur post...LMFAO

any chance u can translate paddys post for me :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 07, 2011, 09:31:49 AM
Spanish iPads ftl


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on November 09, 2011, 01:33:53 PM
Pardew being speaker about on ssn for England manager.

O dear. Redknapp health problems could rule him out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 09, 2011, 11:13:32 PM
Mike's snuck a stadium renaming in while it's going well. Hope people don't overreact.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 09, 2011, 11:29:50 PM
[ ] Care

[X] just win games


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 09, 2011, 11:42:37 PM
Nothing like a well-timed shooting in the foot.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on November 09, 2011, 11:45:06 PM
Nothing liked a well-timed shooting in the foot.

 ;dingdell;

ashley is a clown


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on November 10, 2011, 05:07:28 AM
Nothing liked a well-timed shooting in the foot.

 ;dingdell;

ashley is a fat fkin clueless clown and i hope he dies a painful death

FYP

when will the fat fk learn

#stjamesparkalwayswasalwayswillbe


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 10, 2011, 08:12:25 AM
[ ] Care

[X] just win games

+1

Nobody who actually is a fan/likes football/don't work in the nufc commercial office will call it that other thing anyway so it's kinda meh imo.

Just shows Ashley isn't a superb businessman because it's obvious that by calling it the SDA, he's made it a completely poisoned chalice for any other sponsor and it won't make any money at all. Worse, we might end up with nothing on our shirts (costing Ashley money...) next year for similar reasons.

Without the passion and emotion that football brings, this is a bad business decision, first and foremost.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 10, 2011, 08:15:03 AM
ive previously been a hube saylor critica, but alongside coló he has been immense. abso lo es the tono.

ira so ridículo tío, he wad england u21 captain, progressed intolerancia srting for the best defensive cord in prem for a top 3 tema and cahill and jagielka etc all anead of him?

i've previously been a huge taylor critic, but alongside colo he as been immense. abso loves the toon.

it's so ridic imo, he was england u21 captain, progressed into starting for the best defensice side in prem for a top 3 team and cahill and jagielka etc all ahead of him?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 10, 2011, 08:53:18 AM
[ ] Care

[X] just win games

+1

Nobody who actually is a fan/likes football/don't work in the nufc commercial office will call it that other thing anyway so it's kinda meh imo.

Just shows Ashley isn't a superb businessman because it's obvious that by calling it the SDA, he's made it a completely poisoned chalice for any other sponsor and it won't make any money at all. Worse, we might end up with nothing on our shirts (costing Ashley money...) next year for similar reasons.

Without the passion and emotion that football brings, this is a bad business decision, first and foremost.
Not saying it will work but think his plan is: "They hate me anyway so I'll change it and give it a dodgy name, the fans will be annoyed at me. If a sponsor comes in to rename the stadium they don't take any of the negativity from getting rid of St James Park"

People say they will never take to the new name but they always do. JJB is now the DW. Division 1 is now the Championship. City of Manchester is now Etihad. I'm not used to King Power taking over from Walkers yet but it just takes time for it to stick but it will eventually.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on November 10, 2011, 09:13:07 AM
All of your examples have a solid history!

It'll never take on in Newcastle but the media might be forced to use it. You really don't know geordies do you?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 10, 2011, 09:34:12 AM
All of your examples have a solid history!

It'll never take on in Newcastle but the media might be forced to use it. You really don't know geordies do you?
Division 1 was 116 years old when it changed to the Championship.

Also it doesn't have to take off and obviously wouldn't immediately. The point was that if anybody does come to sponsor the stadium they are now changing a name with no history and one that the fans don't love.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on November 10, 2011, 09:42:49 AM

Division 1 was 116 years old when it changed to the Championship.


never called division 1 was it? and it was only the first division for about a decade, it was second division for the hundred years before that

I still know plenty of older people who refer to it as the second division which is bloody confusing


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 10, 2011, 09:43:33 AM
Newcastle United, officially undefeated at St James Park in the 2011-2012 season.

Pardew, what a man!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 10, 2011, 09:56:12 AM

Division 1 was 116 years old when it changed to the Championship.


never called division 1 was it? and it was only the first division for about a decade, it was second division for the hundred years before that

I still know plenty of older people who refer to it as the second division which is bloody confusing
Off topic but - agree it was first division. Disagree with the rest. First Division has only ever been First Division or the Championship. Premier League came in above it and wasn't part of the Football League. So it was always First Division just where it came in the football pyramid had changed. The trophy Leeds won in 92 and QPR won last year is the same but at the time Leeds won it it was the highest league. Now it isn't.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on November 10, 2011, 10:13:31 AM
nah, disagree. according to the football league's own website the premier league was formed by the first division breaking away. if they'd just added something on top of the football league that would've left 5 pro divisions

strangely though they also refer to divisions 1,2 and 3 which surprised me

anyway, that wasn't really my point. my point was that despite loads of renaming/rebranding people still use the old name

better example would be the league cup. this has been rebranded numerous times but is still referred to as the league cup, not by any of it's new names. in fact I can honestly say I have no idea what it's current name is

fa cup and premier league are similar. they both have official names that include a sponsors name but I just had to google to find out what they're currently called


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on November 10, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Anagram

The Sports Direct Arena = North Easts Epic retard


Not that it is hugely important of course, but I think commerical naming of stadia works best for a new build without history attached eg Emirates, Walkers etc etc.

Eventually though it will all be forgotten and the new name will be fully adopted by the media, at least...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 10, 2011, 10:38:23 AM
First Division clubs broke away. Not the actual league. Prem is FA governed others FL. Football League didn't decide to breakaway from itself. It restructured because of forming of the premier league.

Some people do but these are usually idiots where a 2min convo takes 20 hours. "How are Wednesday doing this season?" "Third in League one" "Oh the top league?" "No" "Oh what used to be the top league?" "No" "Oh which League then?" "League One" etc

FA Cup and Prem are different as they retain a competition name just change sponsors. Europa League is a better example as it's a complete rebranding rather than a sponsored competition. Loads still use UEFA but give it time and that will lessen. Time is they key. League Cup has never had one name long enough for it to stick but still think most people know it is the Carling Cup.

Whether is Sports Direct Arena or a different name altogether I reckon in 10 years if you say you're off to St James Park people will think you're going to Exeter.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 10, 2011, 12:48:47 PM
Whether is Sports Direct Arena or a different name altogether I reckon in 10 years if you say you're off to St James Park people will think you're going to Exeter.

i call.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on November 10, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
When there are a lot of changes I think people just end up never forgetting.  I have been to see the Miami Dolphins a fair few times in the past five years or so and I can never remember what it is called at anyone time so you end up saying I am going to Dolphin, Joe Robbie, pro player or whever it is called....you know where the dolphins play....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 10, 2011, 11:27:37 PM
Love Jeff.

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,,12088_7302390,00.html


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 10, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
Trust me Nolan is awful. He did well at start of season scoring goals, but now clubs are aware of hi they mark him and he doesnt offer anything. He is farrrrrr too slow/immobile. He hasnt scored in 2010 yet.

Collocini is premiership class. Enrique is incred. Steven Taylor is good for defensive cover in premiership. Andy Carroll has lots of potential and can be just as effective as Kevin Davies and is probably more talented.

Thing with Gutierez is he is an outlet, when we are under the cosh he will run with the ball and keep it. His final product is awful but I think he could be turned into a premier league right back. As a winger his quality isnt good enough, but in the championship he gives us enough. In the premiership you simply have to take your chances.

pleno1 knows


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 10, 2011, 11:30:38 PM
Harps is a genuis?

He is a good championship keeper, mainly for shot stopping. He has so much experience mainly with the club, he knows what it takes to play for the club can help the younger defenders etc etc, but he is abit old now, he doesnt come for crosses and can sometimes be abit too static. I think he will be a great coach for the next 10-15 years, probably a goalkeeping coach.

Tim Krul is an amazing young talent, Dutch u21 keeper and we have turned down bids from Chelsea, arse etc etc, and I think if we get to the premiership he will be the number 1.

suppp

Why on god's earth would he suddenly become #1 in the premiership while not being so in the championship?

I'd say Krul is 3rd in the pecking order,Fraser Forster would be ahead of him if he stays at the club next season instead of going out on loan again.

As for Nolan,he might not offer much else but he grabs a goal here and there,he's scored some big goals this season and having a midfielder who can grab 7/8 in the permiership is so valuable it is unreal,if he can get around that it would be enough to keep you up providing all of the strikers don't go totally goalshy.

Just sayin...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 10, 2011, 11:31:50 PM
Nolan proving once again he isn't to the standard required in the premiership. Should play Gutierez on the left with Ben Arfa off Carroll, or alternatively play two upfront with Lovenkrands paired with Carroll.

Do you think Lovenkrands is good enough for the Prem ? I definitely don't.

Also Nolan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Routledge >>>>>>> Gutierrez.

my cave <"3333333


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 10, 2011, 11:37:17 PM
 Abioptimistic? ña just know the game son

I think we will finish top 8. Our team currently looks like

GK - Krul Really good young goalkeeper.

RB - Taylor (Good loyal defender, gets a goal or two)
CB - Williamson (No-nonsense defender, doesnt make many mistakes)
CB - Collocini (New captain, absolutely awesome for last 24 months, arguably our best player)
LB - Enrique (Reports that Barca, Liverpool and City all interested. Best LB in premiership last year, lightening fast and so composed)

DM - Tiote Labellled the new Essien, wanted by Chelsea, but we got a 5 year contract. Breaks down everything and distribution is great
CM - Cabaye New signing, described as similar to Xavi, he's awesome on the ball and Tiote/Cabaye, should work like Xavi/Busquets

RCM - Barton  Fantastic delivery, settled for first time in his career. Loves the club, loves the fans and always gives a 8/10 performance
LCM - Marveux  New french winger, blistering pace and shot, really exciting player that will get fans off their seats

AM - Ben Arfa Everyone in the city is talking about this guy. He was amazing against EVerton last season before Nigel De Jong broke his leg. Fast, skillful, direct, will cause defenders major problems

ST - Ba Absolute animal, 6ft3, huge and strong, defenders are going to shit theirselves. He's great in the air too and as Horneis said is a great finisher

Squad:

We have Steve Harper and Fraser Forster also going for the number 1 jersey.
Dan Gosling was signed last year and will almost be like a new signing, really looking forward to him trying to get into the first 11. Can play in the middle, on the right or at right back
Jonas Guttierez - Arguably one of our best players last year. So strong, so fast but poor end product, really good for away games as he keeps the balls and great on the counter attack
Ryan Taylor - Versatile set piece specialist
Danny Guthrie/Wayne Routledge/Alan Smith - Great Squad players
Leon Best/Shola/Lovenkrands - Decent competition for Ba.

lol biased much??
"similar to xavi"
"labellled the new essien"
"defenders are going to shit themselves"

i admire your passion but think your analysis of the squad is abioptomistic to say the least


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nirvana on November 11, 2011, 07:01:14 AM
just lol at ze geordies getting upset at a branding name change. Sniff, St James till I die, sniff. Call it what you like, no one else cares

Can't wait for them to be below mid table so they can really get fumming about Mike Ashley (probably one of the best Chairmen in the league)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on November 11, 2011, 11:19:50 AM
lol @ seeing this as a victory. this name change is a temporary one. I am pretty sure that when Ashley sells the naming rights permanently the council will change the signage (I am guessing an S109 would be put in place so that NUFC ends up paying for part of it).

Standard.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 11, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
just lol at ze geordies getting upset at a branding name change. Sniff, St James till I die, sniff. Call it what you like, no one else cares

Can't wait for them to be below mid table so they can really get fumming about Mike Ashley (probably one of the best Chairmen in the league)

Trolling itt


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on November 11, 2011, 09:58:58 PM
sigh, this is starting to go the way scottish football threads on blonde used to go


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on November 11, 2011, 11:27:18 PM
sigh, this is starting to go the way scottish football threads on blonde used to go

Those were the days. Some real characters.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: gatso on November 11, 2011, 11:46:38 PM
Can mods please stop deleting stuff, my post doesn't make sense with the naughty posts missing


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nirvana on November 12, 2011, 01:13:06 PM
just lol at ze geordies getting upset at a branding name change. Sniff, St James till I die, sniff. Call it what you like, no one else cares

Can't wait for them to be below mid table so they can really get fumming about Mike Ashley (probably one of the best Chairmen in the league)

Trolling itt

Me ? Alright, maybe, I apologise

I just find all things Newcastle properly chortleworthy - most earnest set of 'we're a big cloob, and we don't wear shirts in winter, sans trophy' fans ever....FACT.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 12, 2011, 01:41:08 PM
just lol at ze geordies getting upset at a branding name change. Sniff, St James till I die, sniff. Call it what you like, no one else cares

Can't wait for them to be below mid table so they can really get fumming about Mike Ashley (probably one of the best Chairmen in the league)

Trolling itt

Me ? Alright, maybe, I apologise

I just find all things Newcastle properly chortleworthy - most earnest set of 'we're a big cloob, and we don't wear shirts in winter, sans trophy' fans ever....FACT.

Glenn, you have been a bit deluded by the press darn sarf.

Nobody I know thinks we are a big club, ironically they only thing that could make us a big club is the size of our stadium. LOL at we don't wear shirts in winter, not sure what that's got to do with anything at all. As for Mike Ashley being one of the best chairman in the league, sorry this was just trolololol, or is he a relation of yours ?

I'm not sure if I'm missing something but as far as the stadium name goes I kinda agree with you, if Chelsea & Man City are doing it Liverpool are trying to do it then why wouldn't we, I don't think SJP has anymore heritage than Anfield. If it brings more money into the club then good, and we will all still call it SJP anyway.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nirvana on November 12, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
Suppose I was just listening to some fans who were talking about season ticket prices and such, seems very good value to me and that's, at least in part, down to the approach they are taking under Ashley.

Also, he made a pretty unpopular decision to bring Pardew in and thats worked pretty well. He aint that bad would be my perspective


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 12, 2011, 02:09:12 PM
Suppose I was just listening to some fans who were talking about season ticket prices and such, seems very good value to me and that's, at least in part, down to the approach they are taking under Ashley.

Also, he made a pretty unpopular decision to bring Pardew in and thats worked pretty well. He aint that bad would be my perspective

The season ticket thing was good, and Pardew is working out well at the minute, but he's done a lot wrong and is still a bit of a noob to all this so no way is he one of the best chairman in the league.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 16, 2011, 01:36:01 PM
cabaye and shola back for mcfc.

marveux out, tiote maybe close


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 16, 2011, 02:07:13 PM
shola

(http://i.imgur.com/0D00v.gif)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: boldie on November 16, 2011, 02:26:30 PM
shola

(http://i.imgur.com/0D00v.gif)

love that clip..can't remember where it's from though. is there a youtube of it?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on November 18, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Barnsley have signed Nile Ranger on loan today.  What can we expect from him?

I believe he's been a bit of a naughty boy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 19, 2011, 01:21:46 AM
Barnsley have signed Nile Ranger on loan today.  What can we expect from him?

I believe he's been a bit of a naughty boy.


Not a lot


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 19, 2011, 10:13:21 AM
lets fucking have these overpaid pricks


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 19, 2011, 11:06:45 AM
Barnsley have signed Nile Ranger on loan today.  What can we expect from him?

I believe he's been a bit of a naughty boy.


Not a lot

this


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 19, 2011, 11:13:08 AM
Barnsley have signed Nile Ranger on loan today.  What can we expect from him?

I believe he's been a bit of a naughty boy.


Not a lot

this

sports bar 3.45ish?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 19, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
sports bar 3.45ish?

depends on weather....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 19, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
City got Barry Silva Dzeko on bench, 1time turn em over


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 19, 2011, 03:54:23 PM
#itstarts


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 19, 2011, 04:51:50 PM
huge sigh, we had 4 clear cut chances, really really clear chances, they scored 2 meh pens.

some great positives today.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 20, 2011, 02:21:13 AM
Ryan Taylor had a mare today, Richards made a mug of him so many times in the first half alone. Ben Arfa looked pretty solid other than the penalty. Ba should've scored when it was 0-0 but either way reckon we would've got beat.

Bring on the red lot.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 20, 2011, 02:36:40 AM
Hope this isn't true :(

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Chelsea-target-Newcastle-star-Cheick-Tiote-in-20m-January-raid-article832172.html



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 20, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
i mean, if we spend the 20m and some of the 35m then i'd probably let him go, we're 4/5 players away from a phenominal team imo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: BAM on November 20, 2011, 05:24:51 PM
Any word on the neanderthal who decided it would be very brave to throw a firework into our end yesterday? and his pal who decided it would be wise to follow it up with a seat?

Its a shame really as I use to have a lot of respect for the Toon Army as they always turn out through thick and thin and support their team but one bad apple and all that and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

There were women and kids sat in that stand and I had my kids with me, I've seen some sick things during my time watching football but this disgusted me to the core, I hope NUFC/MCFC do everything they can to catch these idiots and throw the fckin book at them



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on November 20, 2011, 08:47:10 PM
Wondered what caused them to start this, not normally any animosity between us that i can think of anyway.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 20, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
obviously cannot stand up or do anything but condemn the behaviour of the two idiots.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 20, 2011, 09:02:52 PM
and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

obviously they are complete arseholes etc, etc, hope they get caught and banned/jailed, etc etc, but this statement makes you just as bad as them.

you can't condone random violence.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: BAM on November 20, 2011, 10:26:31 PM
and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

obviously they are complete arseholes etc, etc, hope they get caught and banned/jailed, etc etc, but this statement makes you just as bad as them.

you can't condone random violence.

[ ] sure does


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 21, 2011, 12:41:34 AM
and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

obviously they are complete arseholes etc, etc, hope they get caught and banned/jailed, etc etc, but this statement makes you just as bad as them.

you can't condone random violence.

[ ] sure does

Does that mean when one of your lot do something similar, which will happen/has happened, you deserve a beating ? such a ridic statement.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 21, 2011, 12:47:47 AM
and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

obviously they are complete arseholes etc, etc, hope they get caught and banned/jailed, etc etc, but this statement makes you just as bad as them.

you can't condone random violence.

[ ] sure does

Double negative fwiw


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on November 21, 2011, 12:08:06 PM
Haha. We bid 1.25m for lua lua in July, and was rejected, now you let us have him for free. Been out of side, now time to unleash the beast!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 21, 2011, 04:06:49 PM
Haha. We bid 1.25m for lua lua in July, and was rejected, now you let us have him for free. Been out of side, now time to unleash the beast!!

another sterling decision by us.

hope he does well, nice kid.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 21, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Rooney being in midfield on Saturday will be great for us. Collocini will marshall Hernandez, neeeeee botha.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on November 21, 2011, 05:26:38 PM
Haha. We bid 1.25m for lua lua in July, and was rejected, now you let us have him for free. Been out of side, now time to unleash the beast!!

another sterling decision by us.

hope he does well, nice kid.

now apparently a fee but obv not going to be anything like 1.25m, prob just over 6 figures with a sell on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: BAM on November 21, 2011, 06:48:25 PM
and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

obviously they are complete arseholes etc, etc, hope they get caught and banned/jailed, etc etc, but this statement makes you just as bad as them.

you can't condone random violence.

[ ] sure does


Does that mean when one of your lot do something similar, which will happen/has happened, you deserve a beating ? such a ridic statement.

I assume ridic = ridiculous?

I took you for more sense that to take the above out of context quote but to read the whole original phrase as idiomatic but hey ho

Speaks volumes that 'the best fans in the land' are splitting hairs instead of condemning their own


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 21, 2011, 07:20:38 PM
and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

obviously they are complete arseholes etc, etc, hope they get caught and banned/jailed, etc etc, but this statement makes you just as bad as them.

you can't condone random violence.

[ ] sure does


Does that mean when one of your lot do something similar, which will happen/has happened, you deserve a beating ? such a ridic statement.

I assume ridic = ridiculous?

I took you for more sense that to take the above out of context quote but to read the whole original phrase as idiomatic but hey ho

Speaks volumes that 'the best fans in the land' are splitting hairs instead of condemning their own

actually, i was condemning every random moron who thinks violence at football is ok, regardless of team supported. apparently that includes you. you can't occupy the high ground whilst making such ridic statements.

has absolutely nothing to do with the fact they are newcastle fans, and everything to do with the fact that they are criminals and morons. To illustrate that point, imagine I told you that according to CCTV of the incident, every person involved had blonde hair.

I'd really like to now see you justify every blonde haired supporter taking a beating outside.

No?

Thought not.

Stay away from the ridic statements, bro.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 21, 2011, 10:20:52 PM
and I couldn't care less if they all got trashed outside.

obviously they are complete arseholes etc, etc, hope they get caught and banned/jailed, etc etc, but this statement makes you just as bad as them.

you can't condone random violence.

[ ] sure does


Does that mean when one of your lot do something similar, which will happen/has happened, you deserve a beating ? such a ridic statement.

I assume ridic = ridiculous?

I took you for more sense that to take the above out of context quote but to read the whole original phrase as idiomatic but hey ho

Speaks volumes that 'the best fans in the land' are splitting hairs instead of condemning their own

I didn't think I was taking it out of context tbh ? How did I ? You said you couldn't care a less if they ALL get trashed outside, by that you where referring to the "toon army", not that I thought about it at the time but a few years back I regularly would've been part of that "all" and don't believe I would've deserved a thrashing because of two absolute imbosiles. Also didn't everyone but me remark that they should be locked up ? I didn't really thought something so obv needed me to repeat it again, but yeah they are a couple of ***** and deserve the strongest punishment possible. So often people have a similar mindset, maybe you didn't and just worded it wrongly but it's regularly showing and admitted to on here that someone doesn't like a certain community,group or even race due to the actions of a mniiscule representation of that group, which is stupid at best.

Also, what gave you the idea I had more sense, guess you've never read my diary  ;)

FWIW, I also don't think we are "the best fans in the land", just saying.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 25, 2011, 04:46:11 PM
lets fkin do this tomorrow. so pumped.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on November 25, 2011, 09:29:24 PM
I think you can get a point tomorrow.

Don't let me down.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 26, 2011, 12:13:24 PM
Colocini out :(:(:(

gg


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 26, 2011, 12:17:12 PM
Colocini out :(:(:(

gg

Uh oh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Raman on November 26, 2011, 12:19:47 PM
One man does not make a team.  Newcastle have performed better when the odds are against them, I think they will come through today with a point.  Manure really don't look that great this season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 26, 2011, 12:45:35 PM
One man does not make a team.  Newcastle have performed better when the odds are against them, I think they will come through today with a point.  Manure really don't look that great this season.

You;ve obviously watched Newcastle much this season/last 10 years.

Colocini plays incredibly solid and time and time again makes up for Tiote/Taylor's errors. S.Taylor has improved amazingly, but ONLY because Colo is next to him, without him he will fluster and not play anywhere near as solid. He is a ball playing defender and keeps possession, leads our back line and basically doesn't let anything past him. If Rooney played centre mid and Colo played I think we'd keep a clean sheet.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 26, 2011, 12:53:26 PM
Who else do you have there pleno? Is Williamson injured? Could be double figures if it's Perch.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 26, 2011, 12:55:59 PM
Who else do you have there pleno? Is Williamson injured? Could be double figures if it's Perch.

Perch/Simpson/Kadar, all terrible.

Williamson is injured, we were inches away from getting Ridgewell in August, would have been so perfect.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 26, 2011, 01:02:47 PM
Yeh read about that. Cheap and can cover CB and LB. Would have been a good deal I reckon. Too old to fit in with current transfer philosophy or Hughton not want to deal with Newcastle?
First choice CB's done so well but somebody needs to come.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 26, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
Colo fit I hear....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 26, 2011, 01:45:50 PM
One man does not make a team.  Newcastle have performed better when the odds are against them, I think they will come through today with a point.  Manure really don't look that great this season.

You;ve obviously watched Newcastle much this season/last 10 years.

Colocini plays incredibly solid and time and time again makes up for Tiote/Taylor's errors. S.Taylor has improved amazingly, but ONLY because Colo is next to him, without him he will fluster and not play anywhere near as solid. He is a ball playing defender and keeps possession, leads our back line and basically doesn't let anything past him. If Rooney played centre mid and Colo played I think we'd keep a clean sheet.

Your underestimating Hernandez just a touch aren't you, imo he's on a par with the very best at the role he plays.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 26, 2011, 01:47:16 PM
one time etc!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 26, 2011, 02:03:51 PM
#nufc Krul Simpson Colo S Taylor R Taylor Obertan Guthrie Cabaye Jonas Ba HBA


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 26, 2011, 02:40:36 PM
gone for nufc 2-1 win with hba to score first for a bit of a punt


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 26, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
Obertan to get the winner  ;whistle;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 26, 2011, 03:47:47 PM
rofl at how sick obretan has played!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 26, 2011, 05:27:41 PM
Thatll fkin do :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 26, 2011, 05:56:16 PM
Thatll fkin do :)

GTFI.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 26, 2011, 06:09:09 PM
rofl Lawrenson's predictions have us at 10 pts W3 D1 L9. Such a ridic bitter man.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on November 26, 2011, 06:41:32 PM
Played boys. Can't wait for MOTD. Expecting heroic defending.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 26, 2011, 06:45:21 PM
We get a dodgy penalty at OT, we really are running good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on November 26, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
I think you can get a point tomorrow.

Don't let me down.

Cheers boys. Cmon City 2moro, get 7 ahead of Scum.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 26, 2011, 07:08:25 PM
meh their goal was abs fluke!

we played well, battled hard and could have had a couple ourself.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 26, 2011, 07:13:55 PM
Fergie is such a joke, guys an abs clown, such a bitter interview


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on November 26, 2011, 07:21:25 PM
Fergie is such a joke, guys an abs clown, such a bitter interview

He is the BITB tho


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on November 26, 2011, 11:26:49 PM
what a fucking holllllld!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 27, 2011, 10:45:27 AM
So so so proud yesterday, so many heroes.

Krul has to be the most in form keeper in the prem, if we can hold onto him for the next 5 years then the future looks bright.

Steven Taylor, Colocini and Simpson were literally unreal, we may not have the most amazing defenders with the exception of Colocini, but each and everyone of them will throw themselves infront of a bus for the team. So heart warming to watch.

Cabaye just oozes so much class and keeps the ball in situations where Nolan put us on the back foot last season.

Everyone was petrified that Tiote wouldn't play, but Guthrie has been our best player for the last 3 games, he's really stepped up and deserves his place in the team.

Obertan is quick as fuck. He burned Evra about 4 times yesterday, will be really interesting to watch him vs Ashley Cole next week.

HBA showed more signs of promise, after chelsea we have a good run of games and hopefully he can really produce in those games.

Demba Ba is an animal, huge bloke and great finisher, expect him to finish with 20 goals this season.

oh yeah..

#letsalllaughatsunderland


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 01, 2011, 02:10:04 PM
huge game this weekend, lets crush these guys they are for the taken.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on December 01, 2011, 02:55:20 PM
huge game this weekend, lets crush these guys they are for the taken.

we have a good record against them at home in the league. full house for the first time this season (and respect to Chelsea for selling out 2800 tickets!). Will be an epic, and poss season defining, match.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: millidonk on December 03, 2011, 01:04:43 PM
This is turning out to be a right cracker. Wp Krul.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on December 03, 2011, 05:59:33 PM
colo out a month, taylor the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 08, 2011, 10:39:23 AM
oh deary me

guthrie
colocini
steven taylor
leon best
marveux
tiote

all injured :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on December 21, 2011, 10:03:33 PM
Only 2 points out of the last 18 and only 1 point out of 12 in December. What are the chances of Sunderland overtaking them by the end of the season?  :dontask:


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on December 21, 2011, 11:24:19 PM
what price would i get on less than 10 points for newc in next 10 games?

Ahem

Sigh that nobody offered a price on this... :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on December 22, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
Maiga deal apparently dead. Sign Nicky Maynard imo. 6 months left on his deal just turned 25 so fits the bill in terms of being young enough for resale at some point.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ACE2M on December 22, 2011, 12:00:30 PM
stupid toon, cost me £300 quid on the work LMS last night.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 22, 2011, 01:00:05 PM
Maiga deal apparently dead. Sign Nicky Maynard imo. 6 months left on his deal just turned 25 so fits the bill in terms of being young enough for resale at some point.

Yeah, he failed a medical.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 26, 2011, 05:40:03 PM
BAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on December 28, 2011, 01:49:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16345791.stm

pretty bad news!

Search for a defender? Selling one too?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 03, 2012, 10:37:04 PM
Going to the game tmoro after buying a ticket off a mate when I was pissed over the holidays, wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, LETS GOGOGOGO!!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 04, 2012, 07:20:51 AM
we're catching you guys up :-)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 04, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
I think you Newcastle boys are a big price to beat Man Utd tonight  3 - 1 draw no bet   ( 7 - 2 betfair )

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-manchester-united/draw-no-bet


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Skgv on January 04, 2012, 02:08:47 PM
I think you Newcastle boys are a big price to beat Man Utd tonight  3 - 1 draw no bet   ( 7 - 2 betfair )

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-manchester-united/draw-no-bet
Unfortunetly being a big price dosnt mean anything even if you getting good value as just cant see Newcastle getting anything from this game ! Even though im praying they do ! United are going to be all guns blazing here an unluckily for me as ive given up this year on betting singles i would love to lump on Man utd to win tonite!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 04, 2012, 03:28:36 PM
I think you Newcastle boys are a big price to beat Man Utd tonight  3 - 1 draw no bet   ( 7 - 2 betfair )

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-manchester-united/draw-no-bet
Unfortunetly being a big price dosnt mean anything even if you getting good value as just cant see Newcastle getting anything from this game ! Even though im praying they do ! United are going to be all guns blazing here an unluckily for me as ive given up this year on betting singles i would love to lump on Man utd to win tonite!

True...A big price doesnt mean anything ...but making good value selections in the betting long term is essential if you wish to be a profitable punter !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on January 04, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
I had Newcastle down as a bet here but I want to see the United team first.  If the defence is still patched up I think it is a decet bet but if Ferdinand etc are back then it is difficult to back Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 04, 2012, 03:38:51 PM
I had Newcastle down as a bet here but I want to see the United team first.  If the defence is still patched up I think it is a decet bet but if Ferdinand etc are back then it is difficult to back Newcastle.

agree as I said... 7 -2 at home draw no bet..looks absolutely massive to me

are you a bookie ex bookie/trader yourself red ?  youre obv involved or have been at some stage i assume...and do you play poker too ? :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on January 04, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
Ex bookie/trader and now punt for a living Fraser.  Play a bit of poker but mainly online or live cash.  Hoping to play a bit more this year but weekend tournaments don't fit into a life betting sports that easily.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 04, 2012, 04:38:23 PM
Ex bookie/trader and now punt for a living Fraser.  Play a bit of poker but mainly online or live cash.  Hoping to play a bit more this year but weekend tournaments don't fit into a life betting sports that easily.

Sounds an interesting life you have led thus far   :)

please pm if you have any" live " horses  and in the meantime may i advise to "lump on " QPR to be relegated @ 9-4

GL

ps if ever you get to a biggish buy in DTD event let me know


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Raman on January 04, 2012, 07:00:30 PM
Tinkering with over 2.5 goals in the Newcastle game this evening, I think both teams will struggle defensively and would expect each team to score but I don't ever have this game as a draw.  I can see it going either 2 - 1 newcastle or 3 - 1 united.  I know thats a bit of a swing but much of it will be dictated by who scores first imo. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 04, 2012, 09:35:19 PM
Had Newcastle/Ba First scorer at 15-2. Hold plz.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Raman on January 04, 2012, 09:54:31 PM
Had Newcastle/Ba First scorer at 15-2. Hold plz.

I backed Ba FGS @15/2, sadly I also bet Manure to win.  But having covered overs as well I am in profit.  Could have been so much better had I not traded out on overs in the 72nd minute.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 04, 2012, 09:57:30 PM
Amazing performance tonight. Didn't just grind out a result you were comfortably the better team. Hopefully that's the confidence back and Ba gets knocked out the African nations early.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 04, 2012, 10:06:18 PM
Was saying earlier, Krul hardly had a save to make.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 04, 2012, 10:10:21 PM
Great game. Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, Colocini, Krul - superb backbone to the team.

Would have had a chance of finishing above Chelsea if you didn't lose Ba for a month.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 04, 2012, 10:11:19 PM
Great game. Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, Colocini, Krul - superb backbone to the team.

Would have had a chance of finishing above Chelsea if you didn't lose Ba for a month.

Was also impressed with Santon, plus Simpson picked it up after crappy game vs Liverpool.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Baron on January 04, 2012, 10:15:56 PM
Best game I've watched as a neutral this season. You have the makings of an excellent side.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 04, 2012, 10:25:18 PM
Great game. Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, Colocini, Krul - superb backbone to the team.

Would have had a chance of finishing above Chelsea if you didn't lose Ba for a month.

Was also impressed with Santon, plus Simpson picked it up after crappy game vs Liverpool.

I'd have all the players I mentioned in the Chelsea team ahead of their own, except Krul. Santon just needs to be playing regularly, could also be a great player!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 04, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
Funny thing is I'm not confident for us against Blackburn at the weekend, think the boys will be tired and without Ba/Tiote we're gonna struggle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 04, 2012, 10:43:05 PM
Was saying earlier, Krul hardly had a save to make.

Krul was seemingly quiet but was very competant on Free Kicks And Corners

A very solid unit that could be a real threat this season if they spend big on a striker to play along side Ba...Somebody in the Dean Sturridge or  Javier Hernandez mould


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 04, 2012, 10:47:18 PM
Great game. Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, Colocini, Krul - superb backbone to the team.

Would have had a chance of finishing above Chelsea if you didn't lose Ba for a month.

Was also impressed with Santon, plus Simpson picked it up after crappy game vs Liverpool.

I'd have all the players I mentioned in the Chelsea team ahead of their own, except Krul. Santon just needs to be playing regularly, could also be a great player!
What? This is mental. I'd have George Elokobi over Cech in goal.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Raman on January 04, 2012, 11:04:43 PM
I am pretty sure Pardew will pull out a gem when it comes to signing a striker, his buys so far haven't been too shabby. 

A striker who might be worth taking a chance on who I think could do a decent job for Newcastle and wouldn't cost a bomb is Jelavic who plays for Rangers.  He's clever and has pace and is pretty strong.  I have read QPR are interested but he's be ideal for Newcastle.  I think he could be had for around 5.5 million - 7 million tag as Rangers look to be in massive financial trouble.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 04, 2012, 11:34:31 PM
 ;applause;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 04, 2012, 11:35:38 PM
I am pretty sure Pardew will pull out a gem when it comes to signing a striker, his buys so far haven't been too shabby. 

A striker who might be worth taking a chance on who I think could do a decent job for Newcastle and wouldn't cost a bomb is Jelavic who plays for Rangers.  He's clever and has pace and is pretty strong.  I have read QPR are interested but he's be ideal for Newcastle.  I think he could be had for around 5.5 million - 7 million tag as Rangers look to be in massive financial trouble.

Jordan Rhodes - best finisher outside of the prem.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 04, 2012, 11:47:08 PM
http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/transfer-specials/t10003041.html?awc=1875_1325697888_72a07800349e945c683a093188cf5498

your replacement for collo next summer ? :) (scroll to bottom)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 05, 2012, 12:53:15 AM
Also hasn't been mentioned but Mike Williamson - solid.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on January 05, 2012, 12:59:50 AM
When you lot signed Santon I was shocked he went there. The guy is absolute class and needs regular games.

Demba Ba put on the most complete centre forward play I've seen all season.

You really do have an excellent side up there.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on January 05, 2012, 01:08:41 AM
Agree about Ba tonight, was very very impressed he tormented united, brilliiant result lads!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on January 05, 2012, 01:20:18 AM
Was saying earlier, Krul hardly had a save to make.

Krul was seemingly quiet but was very competant on Free Kicks And Corners

A very solid unit that could be a real threat this season if they spend big on a striker to play along side Ba...Somebody in the Dean Sturridge or  Javier Hernandez mould

Lol good ol Dean, obv you meant Daniel but Deans commentary tilts me hard.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 05, 2012, 01:23:29 AM
We where amazing tonight and fully deserved it. I still think the same about our team as I did before today, we are a long way off the top 6 but nobody else should worry us, we have a huge month ahead. Great night, that's what it's all about.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on January 05, 2012, 04:14:27 AM
yesssssssssssssssssss what a win, now please do okay without Ba somehow.

NEWCASSSSSSSSTTTTTTLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEE


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nirvana on January 05, 2012, 09:48:43 AM
Great result that. Thought Newcastle played the best I'd seen them this year even after the great start they had. Love that Ba - he's pretty great to watch so would be good for you if he's back quick


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 05, 2012, 12:52:43 PM
Was saying earlier, Krul hardly had a save to make.

Krul was seemingly quiet but was very competant on Free Kicks And Corners

A very solid unit that could be a real threat this season if they spend big on a striker to play along side Ba...Somebody in the Dean Sturridge or  Javier Hernandez mould

Lol good ol Dean, obv you meant Daniel but Deans commentary tilts me hard.

Daniel of course  :)   ... Maybe Mr Pardew can identify another  £ 25 million rated player on a free transfer ,so far hes made some pretty shrewd acquisitions on a minimal budget

I wonder how much he could buy Andy Carroll back for ?  Stranger things have happened so  Its not beyond the realms of possibility !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Skgv on January 05, 2012, 07:03:33 PM
I think you Newcastle boys are a big price to beat Man Utd tonight  3 - 1 draw no bet   ( 7 - 2 betfair )

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-manchester-united/draw-no-bet
Unfortunetly being a big price dosnt mean anything even if you getting good value as just cant see Newcastle getting anything from this game ! Even though im praying they do ! United are going to be all guns blazing here an unluckily for me as ive given up this year on betting singles i would love to lump on Man utd to win tonite!
Did i make the above statement!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 06, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/transfer-specials/t10003041.html?awc=1875_1325697888_72a07800349e945c683a093188cf5498

your replacement for collo next summer ? :) (scroll to bottom)


A 'big' bid now in for one of our players. Could be you for this guy of ours considering Tomkins bid got rejected.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ricardov83 on January 07, 2012, 12:39:01 AM
I was at the game and was hugely impressed with Newcastle.

The speed at which they shut down and denied space in midfield and defence was very impressive and in my opinion a massive contributing factor to their victory.  Tiote Guttierez and Colloccini were immense in this area.  Although Rooney, Berbatov et al were pretty rotten they were made to look worse by these boys.

They are very much a team built on a solid foundation with a real potency on the counter attack. Ba is one of the best I have seen at holding the ball up, committing defenders then slotting a pass to a teammate in space.  Ameobi is like a lump of concrete but fair play he puts himself about.  Absolutely zero spacial awareness or movement though.  They need better to support Ba and Best is not the man.

Santon looks a real class act and it'll be interesting to see what Pardew does when he has a full compliment of midfielders available and R. Taylor maybe isn't the best bet at right mid.  Can't really drop Taylor but Santon needs to play imo.  Thoughts?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 07, 2012, 12:08:13 PM
For my sins Im a Sheffield Wednesday fan but Newcastle have done me a lot of favours this year so I thought I would compose a little ditty as a thank you.

Who knows it may end up on the terraces ?....

Sang Loudly to the tune off Ba Ba Black sheep..

" BA BA IS A BLACK AND WHITE "
" HE SCORES GOALS TO THE FULL "
" IN THE NET A SHOT STOPPER "
" HIS NAME IS TIMMY KRUL "
" PARDEW IS OUR MASTER "
" WHO MAKES US WIN THE GAME "
" WITH SUPPORT FROM GEORDIE BOYS "
" THE PREMIERSHIP WE"LL REIGN "


(F Bellamy  Jan 7th 2012 )


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 07, 2012, 01:03:23 PM
Too many words mate  ;)

Why you think we sing Demba Ba Demba Ba, Demba Demba Ba, nananananananana Demba Demba Ba.

Singable after 10 pints ldo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 07, 2012, 01:08:11 PM
This at Man U with everyone jumping about was class. (no video for Man U game)

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In7gB8EoWsU


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ACE2M on January 07, 2012, 01:30:49 PM
10m release cause in Ba's contract?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 07, 2012, 01:37:53 PM
10m release cause in Ba's contract?

Where you read this ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on January 07, 2012, 01:41:28 PM
Too many words mate  ;)

Why you think we sing Demba Ba Demba Ba, Demba Demba Ba, nananananananana Demba Demba Ba.

Singable after 10 pints ldo.

Too many words for a geordie to remember  ?   :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ACE2M on January 07, 2012, 02:01:05 PM
10m release cause in Ba's contract?

Where you read this ?

bbc gossip, in the daily mail i think


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 07, 2012, 03:34:59 PM
10m release cause in Ba's contract?

Where you read this ?

bbc gossip, in the daily mail i think

Redknapp was heard muttering something about this too (in his usual snide way).


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 08, 2012, 11:55:32 PM
Harry saying it's less than 7 now.
Why? If he wants him just bid and if doesn't why alert your rivals?
Either way get him a new contract please


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 09, 2012, 12:45:42 AM
Why on earth would Newcastle agree to this in the first place?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on January 09, 2012, 07:46:40 AM
Why on earth would Newcastle agree to this in the first place?

In fairness if the min release does exist it was set up when nobody expected that much from ba. He has played out of his skin this year. Nobody could have predicted 15 goals or whatever when he was signing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on January 09, 2012, 05:10:40 PM
According to Tony Pulis he has a knee thats a  ticking timebomb , so It's a gamble by anybody to pay for him. And as sov said, nobody was expecting the form that he has produced, he looked pretty donkish at West Ham imo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 09, 2012, 05:13:28 PM
The point I suppose I'm making is why would the player want a clause such as this?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on January 09, 2012, 05:18:03 PM
The point I suppose I'm making is why would the player want a clause such as this?

I dunno, but I'll guess that If hes on a pay as you play deal then he wants the clause in for this exact reason, if he starts tearing it up like he has done then Newcastle I guess will have to offer him a better contract or else sell him


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on January 09, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
Why on earth would Newcastle agree to this in the first place?

In fairness if the min release does exist it was set up when nobody expected that much from ba. He has played out of his skin this year. Nobody could have predicted 15 goals or whatever when he was signing.

I dont really understand why nobody saw it coming.  He scored 7 in 12 games for a poor West Ham team and a goal every three games or so for Hoffenheim when they were a decent team challenging in Germany.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 09, 2012, 07:32:19 PM
According to Tony Pulis he has a knee thats a  ticking timebomb , so It's a gamble by anybody to pay for him. And as sov said, nobody was expecting the form that he has produced, he looked pretty donkish at West Ham imo.

What? He was fucking awesome for West Ham!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 13, 2012, 01:51:37 AM
From NUFC.com

ESPN confirm that they will televise Newcastle's upcoming FA Cup Fourth Round trip to either Brighton or Wrexham  live on Saturday January 28th with a 5.15pm kickoff.

If we can get through that with the way the draws panned out we could have a little run at it, would love it if we got to Wembley, obv a way off yet but I can dream.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 15, 2012, 05:26:56 PM
great little win for us today - hopefully cabaye not out for too long.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 15, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
Yea, we looked so bad most of the game, QPR were terrible though, we had a few good spells. We need cabaye back, hes so big for us. Ray wilkins was so fkin tilting in the 1st half.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 15, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Yea, we looked so bad most of the game, QPR were terrible though, we had a few good spells. We need cabaye back, hes so big for us. Ray wilkins was so fkin tilting in the 1st half.

I must have been watching a different match.

QPR clearly the better team for most of the 90 minutes.

If Jay Bothroyd hadn't been so crap, we would have won comfortably.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 15, 2012, 08:36:51 PM
Yea, we looked so bad most of the game, QPR were terrible though, we had a few good spells. We need cabaye back, hes so big for us. Ray wilkins was so fkin tilting in the 1st half.

I must have been watching a different match.

QPR clearly the better team for most of the 90 minutes.

If Jay Bothroyd hadn't been so crap, we would have won comfortably.

:D:D:D:D

Clearly watching a different game, or perhaps the fact away fans are located 2 miles north of the pitch is the reason why.

Your midfield is the worst in the premiership, absolutely terrible, although Barton/Taarabt may be better.

Wright Phillips playing on the left was baffling, hes one of the most one footed players who have played in the premiership, his ability is to get to the byline and get balls in the box not cut in and deliver.

Mackie on the right was anon and looked like he belonged in the championship.

Derry is never a premiership footballer either.

Defence is really bad, I think on todays game only Luke Young would get in our team and even then hes probs on a par with Simpson.

Kenny looked super suspect and although you had alot of efforts on goals they were mainly long, speculative shots that went down Krul's throat.

Gabbidon and Ferdinand are both championship defenders and if we had Ba/Cabaye stayed fit it could have been a cricket score.

I was actually really disappointed with Helguson who I thought was quite a good player.

Once you brought on your major goal threat Tommy Smith it was basically game over.

[ ] nice strip too :P

How did you find the stadium? First visit there?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 15, 2012, 08:47:19 PM
tbf QPR cm is actually very good, but all 3 were out - Barton, Faurlin, Taarabt, that is a top 10 CM trio, rest of team is pretty terible though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 15, 2012, 08:48:56 PM
not seen Faurlin.

Think Taarbart is a luxury player that a team with such a defence can't afford.

Barton was never good enough CM for Newcastle and often would be pushed out onto the right to fit him in, if I'm not mistaken the same has happened with QPR?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 15, 2012, 08:49:29 PM
I actually can't think of any teams in the top 10 where Taarbart and/or Barton would get in CM.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 15, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
Yea, we looked so bad most of the game, QPR were terrible though, we had a few good spells. We need cabaye back, hes so big for us. Ray wilkins was so fkin tilting in the 1st half.

I must have been watching a different match.

QPR clearly the better team for most of the 90 minutes.

If Jay Bothroyd hadn't been so crap, we would have won comfortably.


Meh, like i say we was bad for most, but you just didnt look like scoring, ever.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 15, 2012, 08:54:06 PM
I actually can't think of any teams in the top 10 where Taarbart and/or Barton would get in CM.

Man Utd? :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 15, 2012, 08:55:31 PM
I actually can't think of any teams in the top 10 where Taarbart and/or Barton would get in CM.

Man Utd? :)

They sure would


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ACE2M on January 15, 2012, 09:00:32 PM
Krul and colocini were brilliant.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 15, 2012, 09:03:42 PM
Thought QPR started well but then went flat. Faurlin is a big miss. Looked a pretty comfortable game for Newcastle after they had scored.
Agree with pleno re: SWP. Not sure what benefit it was shifting SWP to the left to get Mackie in on the right. Then towards the end of the game he was popping up in the middle just ahead of the defence.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 15, 2012, 10:33:27 PM
Yea, we looked so bad most of the game, QPR were terrible though, we had a few good spells. We need cabaye back, hes so big for us. Ray wilkins was so fkin tilting in the 1st half.

I must have been watching a different match.

QPR clearly the better team for most of the 90 minutes.

If Jay Bothroyd hadn't been so crap, we would have won comfortably.

:D:D:D:D

Clearly watching a different game, or perhaps the fact away fans are located 2 miles north of the pitch is the reason why.

Your midfield is the worst in the premiership, absolutely terrible, although Barton/Taarabt may be better.

Wright Phillips playing on the left was baffling, hes one of the most one footed players who have played in the premiership, his ability is to get to the byline and get balls in the box not cut in and deliver.

Mackie on the right was anon and looked like he belonged in the championship.

Derry is never a premiership footballer either.

Defence is really bad, I think on todays game only Luke Young would get in our team and even then hes probs on a par with Simpson.

Kenny looked super suspect and although you had alot of efforts on goals they were mainly long, speculative shots that went down Krul's throat.

Gabbidon and Ferdinand are both championship defenders and if we had Ba/Cabaye stayed fit it could have been a cricket score.

I was actually really disappointed with Helguson who I thought was quite a good player.

Once you brought on your major goal threat Tommy Smith it was basically game over.

[ ] nice strip too :P

How did you find the stadium? First visit there?

Was in the Plantinum Club, been in the away bit before, couldn't see fuck all, so decided to mingle with the Geordies.

Love St James's Park, great theatre for football.

Newcastle fans are usually the best. I remember beating you 5 or 6-0 at Loftus Road probably before you were born.

After each goal, the Geordies sang louder. Totally outsung the supporters of a team who were winning 6-0! Incred

However, today I was slightly surprised how muted they were. You are having a season wayyyyyyyyyyyy above expectations and should be having a ball. But no, quick to  criticise and moan, totally unGeordie like.

Total rubbish about Ferdinand you wrote. He played really well today, best defender on the pitch. Young was good too. And Kenny has been our player of the season so far. I don't think he had a shot to save. so why you thought he was dodgy I don't know. No chance with the goal. Hopefully this will be the last we see of Gabbidon and Hill in the hoops.

I thought Buzsaky had a pretty good game, but I might be biased because I really like him. Derry is indeed a Championship footballer and he won't be on the pitch much now. Warnock loved him and my guess is Derry will move on loan to wherever Mr Wanker pitches up next (maybe Millwall?). SWP has been a massive disappointment. He was great when he first signed, but has been increasingly poor as the losing run as continued. He was actually a little bit better today. Mackie is not a Prem player for sure. But he is a trier, no cause is lost for him. Perfect team player.

Bothroyd was hopeless. He missed two giltedged chances which a Premiership goalscorer should have obbled up. The second one was exactly the same as the one Best scored. Bothroyd never looked like hitting the net. Helguson looked off the pace today, but has held up the line well in recent weeks.

We need a centre back partner for Anton (I'd prefer Alex to Samba, but either will do), a left back maybe - I like Traore going forward but he's woeful at defending, a creative midfielder to take the place of Faurlin, a left sided midfielder (Pienaar please) and a goalscorer (Johnson will do, but prefer someone better- Hooper would be perfect).

I thought Newcastle were poor on the whole.

The one shining exception was Ben Arfur who was tremendous, making QPR player shit themselves every time he had the ball.

Santone was pretty good too.

The front two were appauling apart from Bests finsih, which was the only bit of quality either of them provided all afternoon. Jonas was Jonas. Did alot of work, but end product was tez. Guthrie was terrible. It felt like more than half his passes found QPR players.

Bottom line is, if QPR had a goalscorer, instead of a tart, in the number 10 shirt, you would have lost 3 or 4-1.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 15, 2012, 11:56:34 PM
The atmosphere was flat because it's an early Sunday game, pubs dont open until 12 so everyone's still sober by the match. That said the atmosphere isn't anywhere near as good as it used to be and is the main reason I don't go anymore. It used to be good up level 7 but then they moved everyone, I'd only sit in the Gallowgate now if I went, Milburn and East stands are like morgue's half the time.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 16, 2012, 02:30:09 AM
think that's wrong about guthrie like, thought he was good for us today and just killed the threat.

this bosazazky kid. yip, we'll have him please, looked really decent, by far your best player today imo.

Krul was immense again and Colo was best defender on park.

Barton playing would have given the game more spice ofc but overall I think once we scored we looked comfortable, but it was a really nervy first 20 when you played really well.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7438911/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 17, 2012, 03:31:11 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7438911/

Ba's Senegal partner, exciting


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2012, 03:42:24 PM
Anti-railing Senegal so hard.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 17, 2012, 04:00:34 PM
Anti-railing Senegal so hard.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 17, 2012, 04:03:17 PM
rofl, from nufc.com

Update: Cisse medical has taken place on Tyneside today and Sky Sports News showed footage of the player at United's Darsley Park training ground.

Initial reports of a £10m fee gave way to one in the region of £7.5m-£8m plus the inevitable add-ons. As to whether there's a release clause, we'll have to wait for the next Tottenham press conference to find that out...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2012, 04:56:47 PM
The aren't big Redknapp fans on there lol.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 17, 2012, 08:37:49 PM

also love the nufc.com redknapp jibes.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2012, 10:23:14 PM
They give him the number 9 shirt, wow, thoughts on that ? I would've giving it to Ba next season. Don't no much about him but Sky also saying it's a massive coup for us, plus the Mackems wanted him, boooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 17, 2012, 10:28:42 PM
They give him the number 9 shirt, wow, thoughts on that ? I would've giving it to Ba next season. Don't no much about him but Sky also saying it's a massive coup for us, plus the Mackems wanted him, boooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
In Ba's brilliant strawberry sirop interview he said he wouldn't have accepted the number 9 shirt. He likes 19, he'll tell us why when he retires!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on January 17, 2012, 10:31:44 PM
They give him the number 9 shirt, wow, thoughts on that ? I would've giving it to Ba next season. Don't no much about him but Sky also saying it's a massive coup for us, plus the Mackems wanted him, boooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
In Ba's brilliant strawberry sirop interview he said he wouldn't have accepted the number 9 shirt. He likes 19, he'll tell us why when he retires!

And he might do a special celebration if he hits 19 goals


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2012, 10:35:27 PM
They give him the number 9 shirt, wow, thoughts on that ? I would've giving it to Ba next season. Don't no much about him but Sky also saying it's a massive coup for us, plus the Mackems wanted him, boooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
In Ba's brilliant strawberry sirop interview he said he wouldn't have accepted the number 9 shirt. He likes 19, he'll tell us why when he retires!

Don't think I've seen the interview, link plz ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 17, 2012, 10:37:38 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXrkgcdstRQ

Enjoy


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 17, 2012, 11:17:31 PM
Cissé was more successful in his time in the Bundesliga than Ba was.

24 goals in 32 apps in 2010/11.

Let's gogogogogo. Great signing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: chatban on January 18, 2012, 02:09:21 AM
Cissé was more successful in his time in the Bundesliga than Ba was.

24 goals in 32 apps in 2010/11.

Let's gogogogogo. Great signing.

The bundesliga is a very underated league. It is now above Italy in the euro coefficents and I think this is a very shrewd buy. Newcastle will rival liverpool/arsenal soon


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 18, 2012, 02:26:34 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXrkgcdstRQ

Enjoy

Cheers, excellent interview.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 18, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
Guys, 10 million is absolute knock down. I think he was rated as 16 million. He was absolutely key to Freiburg, have not checked to see if they have got a replacement...but to get him so cheap...

they have a replacement plus 12m euros is the best price because Freiburg are likely to be relegated this year and glgl getting that money from the 2e Bundesliga. Replacement is Freis from FC Koeln.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 18, 2012, 10:11:26 PM
bring on the geordiessssssssssssssss

lua lua going to be well up for this.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 19, 2012, 02:12:11 AM
bring on the geordiessssssssssssssss

lua lua going to be well up for this.

So is Pardew, LETS DO THIS!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 21, 2012, 06:05:11 PM
Today is why neutrals love Newcastle


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 21, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Today is why neutrals love Newcastle

we got beat by a team who in all honesty shouldn't be in the top division who played like a conference team but who always beat us at home and who were ably assisted by some shocking refereeing. weird being a newcastle supporter sometimes like.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 22, 2012, 09:59:46 PM
May as well stick it in here, why didn't Seb Larsson get sent off yday ? Inconsistency of refs lately is diabolical, 1st pen yday was no way a pen, doesn't excuse our meltdown though, played great 1st half, abs joke 2nd half.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 23, 2012, 03:30:26 AM
May as well stick it in here, why didn't Seb Larsson get sent off yday ? Inconsistency of refs lately is diabolical, 1st pen yday was no way a pen, doesn't excuse our meltdown though, played great 1st half, abs joke 2nd half.

why didnt krul get sent off too


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on January 23, 2012, 04:25:55 AM
May as well stick it in here, why didn't Seb Larsson get sent off yday ? Inconsistency of refs lately is diabolical, 1st pen yday was no way a pen, doesn't excuse our meltdown though, played great 1st half, abs joke 2nd half.

why didnt krul get sent off too

Colloccini and Santon? were behind him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 23, 2012, 12:10:10 PM
May as well stick it in here, why didn't Seb Larsson get sent off yday ? Inconsistency of refs lately is diabolical, 1st pen yday was no way a pen, doesn't excuse our meltdown though, played great 1st half, abs joke 2nd half.

why didnt krul get sent off too

Kruls wasn't a two footed tackle was it ? That's what I was referring to.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 23, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
May as well stick it in here, why didn't Seb Larsson get sent off yday ? Inconsistency of refs lately is diabolical, 1st pen yday was no way a pen, doesn't excuse our meltdown though, played great 1st half, abs joke 2nd half.

why didnt krul get sent off too

Kruls wasn't a two footed tackle was it ? That's what I was referring to.

I watched the whole Sunderland match on saturday and genuinly dont remember a 2 footed challenge. When was it/who was it on?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 23, 2012, 12:17:47 PM
May as well stick it in here, why didn't Seb Larsson get sent off yday ? Inconsistency of refs lately is diabolical, 1st pen yday was no way a pen, doesn't excuse our meltdown though, played great 1st half, abs joke 2nd half.

why didnt krul get sent off too

Kruls wasn't a two footed tackle was it ? That's what I was referring to.

I watched the whole Sunderland match on saturday and genuinly dont remember a 2 footed challenge. When was it/who was it on?

Seb Larsson was the culprit mid way through the 2nd half I believe, I don't no who it was on, just watched it on Goals on Sunday and they thought as did I that it was exactly the same as Kompany's tackle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 23, 2012, 01:02:19 PM
May as well stick it in here, why didn't Seb Larsson get sent off yday ? Inconsistency of refs lately is diabolical, 1st pen yday was no way a pen, doesn't excuse our meltdown though, played great 1st half, abs joke 2nd half.

why didnt krul get sent off too

Kruls wasn't a two footed tackle was it ? That's what I was referring to.

I watched the whole Sunderland match on saturday and genuinly dont remember a 2 footed challenge. When was it/who was it on?

Seb Larsson was the culprit mid way through the 2nd half I believe, I don't no who it was on, just watched it on Goals on Sunday and they thought as did I that it was exactly the same as Kompany's tackle.

Right, like i say i genuinly cant remember seeing/hearing the commentators mention it,but i was watching on some dodgy link only with some scouse bloke commentating!! And 2bh, Kompany's sending off was a joke IMHO, didnt even think it was a free kick myself, such a joke the guidlines the refs have to follow!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 26, 2012, 12:39:41 AM
Oioi Equatorial Guinea!!!! Senegal Played 2, lost 2.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 26, 2012, 02:23:49 AM
Binkkkkkkkkkkkk.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 26, 2012, 03:26:01 AM
Oioi Equatorial Guinea!!!! Senegal Played 2, lost 2.

one...two...three...all together now....

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 26, 2012, 04:46:43 AM
Oh hai


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 26, 2012, 05:02:39 PM
When's Ba's first game back??? Need to get him back in my dream team!!!!

potentially next weds vs blackburn


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 27, 2012, 04:09:38 PM
we are almost at full strength tomorrow.  first time all season, had an average of 5/6 players out every game, could be interesting.

watch out for will buckley.

GL


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 28, 2012, 10:47:48 PM


watch out for will buckley.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 29, 2012, 04:16:16 PM
No luck, played shit, would've got smashed off Liverpool.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 30, 2012, 06:35:24 PM
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2012/Cabaye-charge-Brighton.aspx

bit of justice for the dirty frenchie.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 30, 2012, 07:06:08 PM
I'm not being biased but I'm really not sure this was that clear cut, seen it like 20 times and couldn't decide if it was deliberate or not.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 30, 2012, 07:18:30 PM
I'm not being biased but I'm really not sure this was that clear cut, seen it like 20 times and couldn't decide if it was deliberate or not.

I think it's likely this was more deliberate than Balotelli's.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 30, 2012, 07:20:42 PM
I'm not being biased but I'm really not sure this was that clear cut, seen it like 20 times and couldn't decide if it was deliberate or not.

I think it's likely this was more deliberate than Balotelli's.

Really ? I thought Balotelli's looked much worse.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 30, 2012, 07:22:19 PM
cabaye is overrated player. Hes v.good but not as good as made out to be.

The stamp was definitely deliberate, he should have beem sent off 4 times at least this season and its a good job hes been caught before he seriously hurt somebody and ended their career.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 30, 2012, 07:58:50 PM
I would say it was on par with Mario's, it is just that Mario made more of a connection.

Hope he gets 4 games for it, teach him a lesson. Also, Ben Arfa rolled around for about 2 minutes, and then kept looking up and then got up.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 30, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
His tackle in the Liverpool game was really bad, I didn't think the stamp was deliberate but wasn't certain either, seems fair enough I guess.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 30, 2012, 08:01:57 PM
can't tell if that in particular was deliberate tbh, from one angle it does, and another it doesn't....

that said, he has gotten away with a lottttt already this season so if the FA punish him for it, no complaints from me.

In other news....Dutch lad from Juventus on loan...thoughts?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 30, 2012, 08:26:25 PM
I would say it was on par with Mario's, it is just that Mario made more of a connection.

Hope he gets 4 games for it, teach him a lesson. Also, Ben Arfa rolled around for about 2 minutes, and then kept looking up and then got up.
Can only get 3 surely?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 30, 2012, 08:33:41 PM
Anyone pay for the adult membership to get tickets early ? Mackems game on sale to those who are now, pretty certain they'll not be that hard to get on normal public sale though, remember being pretty shocked last year that they where on public sale for like a week. 10 years ago or so it was really hard to get one, I went up to que at 6am one year and there was already a huge que, got one of the last tickets and was abs buzzing, was when we won 2-0, Bellamy and Shearer scored.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 01, 2012, 09:59:46 PM
Excellent win tonight, 5th in the league, oioiiiiiiiiiiii. Bring on Villa.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on February 01, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Gotta win ugly sometimes like. Big chance to push on with the two Senegalese lads back for Villa.

Flattered is tonight, we missed cabaye a lot, but we'll take it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on February 01, 2012, 10:17:47 PM
Tim Krul keeping me in the fantasy football and keeping my only great looking antepost bet ticking along.

Need to keep it up to fend off new look Everton and Sunderland sides for 7th.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 01, 2012, 10:21:18 PM
I'm not being biased but I'm really not sure this was that clear cut, seen it like 20 times and couldn't decide if it was deliberate or not.

I think it's likely this was more deliberate than Balotelli's.

Really ? I thought Balotelli's looked much worse.

Mario had no idea he was stamping on Parkers head.

Cabaye knew full well he was putting his studs in El Abd's face.

That's why I thought it was worse.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 02, 2012, 12:25:52 AM
I'm not being biased but I'm really not sure this was that clear cut, seen it like 20 times and couldn't decide if it was deliberate or not.

I think it's likely this was more deliberate than Balotelli's.

Really ? I thought Balotelli's looked much worse.

Mario had no idea he was stamping on Parkers head.

Cabaye knew full well he was putting his studs in El Abd's face.

That's why I thought it was worse.

There was no dispute for me that Balotellii made an unnatural movement in putting his foot down, why was he stamping on the ground for when he knew people where nearby, I agree he probably had no idea where Parkers head was but what was he playing at anyway ? Deserved a ban.

Whereas Cabaye I genuinely couldn't work out whether there was any intent or not, this quote is from Pardew : “Yesterday we had a call from Brighton’s coaching team suggesting the player wants to support our player" So I guess the Brighton player obv felt there was no intent.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 02, 2012, 09:13:49 AM
I'm not being biased but I'm really not sure this was that clear cut, seen it like 20 times and couldn't decide if it was deliberate or not.

I think it's likely this was more deliberate than Balotelli's.

Really ? I thought Balotelli's looked much worse.

Mario had no idea he was stamping on Parkers head.

Cabaye knew full well he was putting his studs in El Abd's face.

That's why I thought it was worse.

There was no dispute for me that Balotellii made an unnatural movement in putting his foot down, why was he stamping on the ground for when he knew people where nearby, I agree he probably had no idea where Parkers head was but what was he playing at anyway ? Deserved a ban.

Whereas Cabaye I genuinely couldn't work out whether there was any intent or not, this quote is from Pardew : “Yesterday we had a call from Brighton’s coaching team suggesting the player wants to support our player" So I guess the Brighton player obv felt there was no intent.

As soon as I saw what happened it was obvious (to me anyway) Cabaye had lost his rag because El Abd had fouled him less than a minute earlier and not been punished.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 02, 2012, 07:34:42 PM
Ba is on a roll that could last a while.

QFMFT

Really looking forward too Sundays game to see them two up front together.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on February 05, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
Both Demba's score. Cisse with a cracker


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on February 05, 2012, 03:32:50 PM
Great to the eye- technically he totally mishit it tho obviously. Surprised commentators didn't pick up on that


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2012, 03:46:50 PM
I promise this is the last time I say this.

Newcastle are tez and are in an absolutely false position.

Talent wise they are little better than Wigan. Good goalkeeper and a good striker. That's it.

Obertain, Guthrie, Williamson, Perch, Guiterrez, Ameobi etc etc are Championship quality at best.

They've got about 20 points more than they should have.

Going to sell their points for the maximum next season when variance stops kicking in.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: action man on February 05, 2012, 04:06:08 PM
agree with keith, apart from the players only being championship level


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 05, 2012, 06:37:05 PM
LOL at similar to Wigan, Coloccini, Santon, Cabaye,Tiote, Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse. Show me the comparison players from Wigan please that are as good as that lot ? The top 6 are way better than us, obv, who else is that much better than we are ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 05, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
agree with keith, apart from the players only being championship level

Other than Williamson Keith is right, however not one of them gets in the first 11.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 06:59:34 PM
rofl, Guthrie has been as good as any centre mid from any team apart from Manchester City.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 07:07:51 PM
I promise this is the last time I say this.


Talent wise they are little better than Wigan. Good goalkeeper and a good striker. That's it.



  • 2 good strikers
  • cabaye and tiote = good midfielders
  • guthrie as good as any reserve midfielder in any premiership team
  • colocini as good as nay defender this year
  • again
  • all of the above = backbone/spine of team which is so important
  • ryan taylor really good set piece taker who wins points for us all the time
  • Gutierez/Williamson and everyone else you named far far too good for the championship as proved when we were in there and coasted almost every game.

People are overvalueing the premiership. Its like saying Man United are full fo championship players, all the players you have said you could say the same about Man United. Evra/Rafael terrible terrible defenders, Rio been an absolute joke all season. Carrick super super average, Giggs good but no better than Guthrie. Goalkeeper terrible, Jonny Evans terrible, Phil Jones bullied off Shola etc etc etc.

Its not that Newcastle aren't good its that the premiership isnt good.

We have a really really good manager who gets the best out of his players. We definitely haven't been running above ev, we've conceded 8 penalties and received 2 in our favour, so so many blatant penalties turned down for us, Ferdinand vs Ba at home, Larson vs the scum away.

You can see with the unwashed down the road how much some decent managerial organisation impacts a team. Sunderland do have a team full of championship players and are battering everybody at the moment.

Teams like Aston Villa/Everton etc who I assume you believe to be  >> Newcastle just simply isn't the case. I believe Villa were pretty much at full strength today and were average at absolute best.

If you think we are a mid table team or whatever happy to bet upto 5k that we finish in the top 10 next season (I already took this bet for this season although considerably less stake when everybody tipped us for relegation and I was very confident we would be top half and competing for European positions.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on February 05, 2012, 07:26:05 PM
Not sure how brave it is asking for an even 5k about a 2-5 shot or thereabouts :)

Can have even 5k top 8 with me. That's probably fair I'd guess


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 07:32:26 PM
mid table = 10th ldo, for a team that is = to wigan its actually a generous offer.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on February 05, 2012, 07:35:27 PM
Well i'm assuming Keith would rather lay 2-5 on bf next august than evens now..... Even if it is to prove his point etc


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 07:38:09 PM
:D ha yeah and I fade the 5k bet to make myself look like i have big balls, phew.

Seriously though I think we are 7th best team in premiership and got a chance to really challenge Arsenal/Liverpool next year.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on February 05, 2012, 07:44:52 PM
You can have upto 5k at 4-1 you finish above Arsenal next year


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
You can have upto 5k at 4-1 you finish above Arsenal next year

uptop when can i bet?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 05, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
Guthrie is shit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on February 05, 2012, 08:10:36 PM
You can have upto 5k at 4-1 you finish above Arsenal next year

uptop when can i bet?

Well the price is now, not after RVP has left or u have signed Messi :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 08:29:48 PM
ok so 4-1 and I cant bet if RVP leaves or we sign anyone for 30m+?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 08:34:11 PM
oh and guthrie > cabaye


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on February 05, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
1 point behind chelsea! come on Newcastle :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2012, 08:52:18 PM
I promise this is the last time I say this.


Talent wise they are little better than Wigan. Good goalkeeper and a good striker. That's it.



  • 2 good strikers
  • cabaye and tiote = good midfielders
  • guthrie as good as any reserve midfielder in any premiership team
  • colocini as good as nay defender this year
  • again
  • all of the above = backbone/spine of team which is so important
  • ryan taylor really good set piece taker who wins points for us all the time
  • Gutierez/Williamson and everyone else you named far far too good for the championship as proved when we were in there and coasted almost every game.

People are overvalueing the premiership. Its like saying Man United are full fo championship players, all the players you have said you could say the same about Man United. Evra/Rafael terrible terrible defenders, Rio been an absolute joke all season. Carrick super super average, Giggs good but no better than Guthrie. Goalkeeper terrible, Jonny Evans terrible, Phil Jones bullied off Shola etc etc etc.

Its not that Newcastle aren't good its that the premiership isnt good.

We have a really really good manager who gets the best out of his players. We definitely haven't been running above ev, we've conceded 8 penalties and received 2 in our favour, so so many blatant penalties turned down for us, Ferdinand vs Ba at home, Larson vs the scum away.

You can see with the unwashed down the road how much some decent managerial organisation impacts a team. Sunderland do have a team full of championship players and are battering everybody at the moment.

Teams like Aston Villa/Everton etc who I assume you believe to be  >> Newcastle just simply isn't the case. I believe Villa were pretty much at full strength today and were average at absolute best.

If you think we are a mid table team or whatever happy to bet upto 5k that we finish in the top 10 next season (I already took this bet for this season although considerably less stake when everybody tipped us for relegation and I was very confident we would be top half and competing for European positions.

You thought Villa were "average at best" today.

Well, I am totally unbiased (indeed I have had a deep dislike of robbie keane for many years and McLeish isn't my favourite person in football either, so without a bet I probably favoured the Toon) and Villa were easily the better side today. Definitely deserved to win. Collocini and Williamson were played off the park by Keane and Bent. N'Zogbia, who has been awful all season, was made to look like David Silva today!

So, if Villa were "average at best" what does that make Newcastle?

I've thought Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal have all been well below the standards they have set for themselves in recent seasons (well, in Lolerpool's case below the standard they aspire to set themself)

However, the truth probably is, the top 6 are so much better than the rest, and it's virtually pure randomness who finishes in positions 7 to 20.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
lolllll,

i remember seeing the possession stats twice.

Once it was 50-50 and the other was 75-25 to Newcastle.

Nzogbia was absolutely dogshit and has been all season, if he was playing like David Silva I'm sure Alex Mcleish wouldn't have taken him off at 1-2 for Emile Heskey.

If the "top 6" are so so much better than the rest then we wouldn't be fifth, we wouldn't have taken 4 points off Man Utd etc.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2012, 09:34:28 PM
lolllll,

i remember seeing the possession stats twice.

Once it was 50-50 and the other was 75-25 to Newcastle.

Nzogbia was absolutely dogshit and has been all season, if he was playing like David Silva I'm sure Alex Mcleish wouldn't have taken him off at 1-2 for Emile Heskey.

If the "top 6" are so so much better than the rest then we wouldn't be fifth, we wouldn't have taken 4 points off Man Utd etc.


I'm saying the fact you are fifth is purely variance.

You took 4 pts off Man U? Variance.

You took 4 pts off QPR? Variance.

You took 3 pts off Villa today? Variance.

Have you read a book called "Fooled by Randomness"? It could have been dedicated to Newcastle supporters this season.

Just because Newcastle are fifth, it doesn't mean they are the fifth best team in the league.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 09:40:52 PM
lolllll,

i remember seeing the possession stats twice.

Once it was 50-50 and the other was 75-25 to Newcastle.

Nzogbia was absolutely dogshit and has been all season, if he was playing like David Silva I'm sure Alex Mcleish wouldn't have taken him off at 1-2 for Emile Heskey.

If the "top 6" are so so much better than the rest then we wouldn't be fifth, we wouldn't have taken 4 points off Man Utd etc.




You took 4 pts off QPR? Variance.

You took 3 pts off Villa today? Variance.



Really? Just standard standard results although I think with current team 6 pts vs the hoops would have been more realistic, although admittedly you deserved the 3 points more than we did when we played you earlier in the season, but think that had a little bit to do with the new players/Monday night game.

To say Liverpool are far and away better than Newcastle seems a little ridiculous though, they have alot of v.v.v average players and have performed poorly for huge parts of the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 05, 2012, 10:12:38 PM
LOL at similar to Wigan, Coloccini, Santon, Cabaye,Tiote, Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse. Show me the comparison players from Wigan please that are as good as that lot ? The top 6 are way better than us, obv, who else is that much better than we are ?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2012, 10:25:04 PM
LOL at similar to Wigan, Coloccini, Santon, Cabaye,Tiote, Ben Arfa, Ba, Cisse. Show me the comparison players from Wigan please that are as good as that lot ? The top 6 are way better than us, obv, who else is that much better than we are ?


I said you were similar to Wigan because you have two very good players - Krul and Ba and so do they Al Habsi and Rodallega.

Overall you are stronger slightly, but I would say they have more creative talent, but you are better organised, better at defending and physically more imposing.

I would certainly rather watch Gomez, Moses and Rodallega than Jonas, Perch and Tiote.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: dino1980 on February 05, 2012, 11:16:09 PM
rofl, Guthrie has been as good as any centre mid from any team apart from Manchester City.

Really! He was good against Villa, but he's only played 9/24 games this season because Pardew has preferred Tiote/Cabaye.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 05, 2012, 11:18:03 PM
Tiote and Colo are also very good players, Colo had his 2nd bad game of the season today so I disagree with you but anyways...

Something I'd rather discuss is this "Have you read a book called "Fooled by Randomness"? It could have been dedicated to Newcastle supporters this season". You obv know your stuff so I'm sure you aren't just saying this due to media perception so where have you witnessed this ? Of the 50+ Newcastle fans I can think of, I know 2 (1 being Pads) who haven't spent the whole season, and still are, waiting for the bubble to burst. So where do you get this from ? It isn't itt as only Pads thinks we could do better than top 7, which from the start we had is not an unrealistic goal due to the competition. It is beyond tilting how many people come out with such rubbish like the Geordie's expect so much etc etc, it really is a fallacy and it hasn't been like that up here pretty much since the day Sir Bobby got sacked.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 05, 2012, 11:20:48 PM
Guthrie is terrible, he made a few mistakes today, I have no idea where Pads is coming from with this one. He had maybe 3/4 good games when he came into the team in Dec, that's it in all the time he's been here.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: dino1980 on February 05, 2012, 11:30:21 PM
Monda,

I haven't read Fooled By Randomness but this is a quote from an article about luck in football by Jonathan Wilson, "Luck is the great unspoken in football, playing a far larger part than is usually admitted. A mathematician at All Souls College, Oxford, calculated that even to cancel out the impact of opponents' form (ie, it is easier to play a team after they have just lost four games than when they have just won four games), a season would need to be seven times longer than it is at present. One moment of good luck can give a player a surge of confidence, add an extra fraction of determination and decisiveness to his game; one moment of bad luck can have the opposite effect."


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 05, 2012, 11:36:13 PM
I'm ofc not debating that there is luck in football, or that we've been lucky this season, we have been. That wasn't what Keith was saying though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 05, 2012, 11:38:04 PM
fwiw i have said way into pre season when we lost the so called better of our players that i tipped us for greatness this season. anyone who knows me knows im actually a huge pessimist.

Guthrie has been injured Dino, he was behind Cabaye in pecking order initially, worked hard and has had like 4 or 5 mom performances since.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2012, 10:23:05 AM
Our performance this season:

Haven't been below 7th all year.

(http://i.imgur.com/1a3S7.gif)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2012, 10:25:52 AM
I was at the game and was hugely impressed with Newcastle.

The speed at which they shut down and denied space in midfield and defence was very impressive and in my opinion a massive contributing factor to their victory.  Tiote Guttierez and Colloccini were immense in this area.  Although Rooney, Berbatov et al were pretty rotten they were made to look worse by these boys.

They are very much a team built on a solid foundation with a real potency on the counter attack. Ba is one of the best I have seen at holding the ball up, committing defenders then slotting a pass to a teammate in space.  Ameobi is like a lump of concrete but fair play he puts himself about.  Absolutely zero spacial awareness or movement though.  They need better to support Ba and Best is not the man.

Santon looks a real class act and it'll be interesting to see what Pardew does when he has a full compliment of midfielders available and R. Taylor maybe isn't the best bet at right mid.  Can't really drop Taylor but Santon needs to play imo.  Thoughts?

Great game. Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, Colocini, Krul - superb backbone to the team.

Would have had a chance of finishing above Chelsea if you didn't lose Ba for a month.

Best game I've watched as a neutral this season. You have the makings of an excellent side.



Krul was seemingly quiet but was very competant on Free Kicks And Corners

A very solid unit that could be a real threat this season if they spend big on a striker to play along side Ba...Somebody in the Dean Sturridge or  Javier Hernandez mould
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When you lot signed Santon I was shocked he went there. The guy is absolute class and needs regular games.

Demba Ba put on the most complete centre forward play I've seen all season.

You really do have an excellent side up there.

It's not only me Keith btw...

Since then we have signed a prolific 10m goalscorer.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2012, 10:28:58 AM
Also, one last one from me. Our team is basically all under 26, we have bought young players and building a great team.

Lets look at our competition who are all slowly but surely breaking up as teams or not having the energy to play 90 minutes anymore/injured alot

Man Utd - Carrick, Rio, possibly Vidic, Scholes (again), Giggs, Evra and Berba. (Backbone of team)

Chelsea - Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Bosingwa, Cole and a long term replacement for Cech. (Backbone of team)

Arsenal - RVP's contract situation + many players not really playing to a top four standard consistently. (RVP = Arsenal)

Spurs - Probably the best placed to continue for the next few years without massive investment and will have massive funds to do so if/when Bale or Modric go.

Liverpool - Gerrard, Carragher, Kuyt and Bellamy all finished within two years pretty much. (Backbone of team)

Citeh - Irrelevant as they'll throw money at anyone who gets three MoM's in a row anyway.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: c4ught on February 06, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
So going forward for the next 3-4 seasons you think the above teams are your competition?

With Ashley running the club your expecting to be challenging for champions league?

I think the clubs you mention above will all spend enough money to make it a big longshot that Newcastle make the champions league! Cant see Ashley stumping up the cash that is needed.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on February 06, 2012, 12:26:11 PM
Villa should have been 2-3 up at half time, the defence was getting ripped to bits. Just after the Ba goal pardew was going mental at the defence to not get caught out again. Saying that you make your own luck. Newcastle from Pardews leadership seems to have got the team bang on form right now, the team much better then what I would class as average prem players bar 2-3 stars. Didn't think it was possible at the start of the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 06, 2012, 12:26:50 PM
Tiote and Colo are also very good players, Colo had his 2nd bad game of the season today so I disagree with you but anyways...

Something I'd rather discuss is this "Have you read a book called "Fooled by Randomness"? It could have been dedicated to Newcastle supporters this season". You obv know your stuff so I'm sure you aren't just saying this due to media perception so where have you witnessed this ? Of the 50+ Newcastle fans I can think of, I know 2 (1 being Pads) who haven't spent the whole season, and still are, waiting for the bubble to burst. So where do you get this from ? It isn't itt as only Pads thinks we could do better than top 7, which from the start we had is not an unrealistic goal due to the competition. It is beyond tilting how many people come out with such rubbish like the Geordie's expect so much etc etc, it really is a fallacy and it hasn't been like that up here pretty much since the day Sir Bobby got sacked.

I've seen Newcastle play maybe 8 times this season. And they were flattered by the final result on just about every occasion.

I think Newcastle supporters have got every right to expect a top 4 team. They are fantastic. Best in the league, bar none.

But you will never get Champions League football with Ashley in charge. You have no chance. Every time you have a good promising player, he is sold.

What price Krul and Ba have gone by the start of next season? (Ba might stay due his injury doubts - but Krul will be at Man Utd I think)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 06, 2012, 12:36:25 PM
Tiote and Colo are also very good players, Colo had his 2nd bad game of the season today so I disagree with you but anyways...

Something I'd rather discuss is this "Have you read a book called "Fooled by Randomness"? It could have been dedicated to Newcastle supporters this season". You obv know your stuff so I'm sure you aren't just saying this due to media perception so where have you witnessed this ? Of the 50+ Newcastle fans I can think of, I know 2 (1 being Pads) who haven't spent the whole season, and still are, waiting for the bubble to burst. So where do you get this from ? It isn't itt as only Pads thinks we could do better than top 7, which from the start we had is not an unrealistic goal due to the competition. It is beyond tilting how many people come out with such rubbish like the Geordie's expect so much etc etc, it really is a fallacy and it hasn't been like that up here pretty much since the day Sir Bobby got sacked.

I've seen Newcastle play maybe 8 times this season. And they were flattered by the final result on just about every occasion.

I think Newcastle supporters have got every right to expect a top 4 team. They are fantastic. Best in the league, bar none.

But you will never get Champions League football with Ashley in charge. You have no chance. Every time you have a good promising player, he is sold.

What price Krul and Ba have gone by the start of next season? (Ba might stay due his injury doubts - but Krul will be at Man Utd I think)

Nice fade of the question  ;)

I'm not sure we are best in the lge but in general we do give decent support to our team.

We are miles away from Champions League and it's not something I'm thinking about at all. I've been Ashley's biggest critic, and apart from having some joke company selling tickets for them when the moron gives me the wrong information, I have no complaints. I've just woken up but the only good promising player I'd say we've sold is Carroll which was impossible to turn down. Decent chance they could both be sold in the Summer, everyone has a price.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2012, 12:36:40 PM
We are without doubt the most shrewd team in the transfer market atm.

We sold Carroll for 35m and built a whole new team. I have backed Ashley all the way over the last 2 seasons and trust in him so much, lots of arguments with family & friends, he will make the right decisions. He will get players for the right price and sell players for the right price. You say we will always sell our best players apart from Carroll who else have we let go? Enrique is only one and we got 5m when his contract was running out and he didn't want to stay.

Barton/Nolan were not anywhere near our best players and wouldn't get a look in any-more, they are championship quality.

We have no right to expect top 4 because we don't have an owner who is going to spend ridiculous amounts on players like City, United and Chelsea.

We are happy if we are producing good players who love playing for the team and have a good go at qualifying for Europe, the fact that if we win next weekend we are 3 points off 3rd is just an absolute bonus and something that all the players and staff deserve for their fantastic effort.

FWIW if we had Robson or Keegan as our manager atm we would without doubt be no higher than 10th.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2012, 12:37:56 PM
Also re Guthrie, I saw that he got MOTM in most newspapers/forums today. Also labelled "the most underrated midfielder in the premiership" and when watching with Man U fans yesterday they said "wow that is exactly what we need".


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: action man on February 07, 2012, 02:23:14 AM
i didnt have any interest in the newc v villa game apart from a deep rooted hatred towards pardew
i kinda liked villa for the game, was on the phone to my mate for some of the game, we both said at the same time, "newcastle run good"  and they have basically. Deflections, breaks in the box, they are overachieving for sure. That said i like the club/fans always great welcoming away supporters in my experience


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 07, 2012, 11:18:20 AM
i didnt have any interest in the newc v villa game apart from a deep rooted hatred towards pardew
i kinda liked villa for the game, was on the phone to my mate for some of the game, we both said at the same time, "newcastle run good"  and they have basically. Deflections, breaks in the box, they are overachieving for sure. That said i like the club/fans always great welcoming away supporters in my experience

Perhaps its just variance evening out, we had so many own goals/deflections last year.

Also I have said in the thread, 8 penalties against, 2 for, thats not really running terribly well.

Where does the hatred for Pardew come from btw?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 07, 2012, 01:44:18 PM
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4789/0102781046042000.gif)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: action man on February 07, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
started when wednesday had that last day showdown with palace a few years back, whoever won stayed up. Hirsty and Pardew were studio guests and he just came accross a massive bellend. Thesedays i see him doing dickhead things, like kicking the ball away when the ball rolls to him in the dugout on an opposition throw in, and stuff that just irks me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 07, 2012, 04:01:52 PM
started when wednesday had that last day showdown with palace a few years back, whoever won stayed up. Hirsty and Pardew were studio guests and he just came accross a massive bellend. Thesedays i see him doing dickhead things, like kicking the ball away when the ball rolls to him in the dugout on an opposition throw in, and stuff that just irks me.

yeah i saw that and hated it too


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on February 07, 2012, 04:12:05 PM
Is it just me or is Colo lookng a bit Rod Stewart-esque? I was surprised to find out he was 30 recently, now I can see it!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 11, 2012, 05:37:41 PM
The start of the return to the mean.

2-0 Spurs after 6 minutes.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on February 11, 2012, 07:04:22 PM
oh dear


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 11, 2012, 07:05:47 PM
Just lol at people suggesting Guthrie is good, plz get a grip. Our midfield today is woeful, I said we'd get battered today and sadly I was right.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on February 11, 2012, 09:13:19 PM
Just lol at people suggesting Guthrie is good, plz get a grip. Our midfield today is woeful, I said we'd get battered today and sadly I was right.
:( not nice when you went to all the bother of getting a ticket.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 11, 2012, 09:15:09 PM
Just lol at people suggesting Guthrie is good, plz get a grip. Our midfield today is woeful, I said we'd get battered today and sadly I was right.
:( not nice when you went to all the bother of getting a ticket.

We will have Tiote and Cabaye back then and won't be playing against the best midfield in the country, still chuffed I got a ticket :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 12, 2012, 12:44:05 AM
jesus, write that off.

Jonas/Obertan/Simpson all absolutely shocking.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 29, 2012, 02:01:01 PM
From the Chronicle, <3...

Ben Arfa has spent enough time in the city to realise what the rivalry is all about and has even ventured to watch Gateshead FC matches since arriving from Marseille to get a feel for Tyneside and the public he is playing for.

Yet when asked if ever visits Sunderland, he said in tongue-and-cheek manner: “I don’t, perhaps because there is nothing there?”

WIN PLZZZZZZZZZZZ


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on March 03, 2012, 11:53:06 AM
BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17244489

Excellent news.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 03, 2012, 02:28:42 PM
Demba to sign new contract and then we're gooooot.


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Post by: pleno1 on March 04, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
HTL


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Post by: pleno1 on March 05, 2012, 10:03:52 AM
good game for the neutrals ya?


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Post by: mondatoo on March 20, 2012, 01:28:54 PM
What is wrong with this clown...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-17443443

Surely the club can kick him out for repeated gross misconduct ?


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Post by: pleno1 on March 21, 2012, 11:00:53 AM
guy is a muppet and awful player too.

Happy with 3 points vs Norwich on Sun, another clean sheet and some decent performances, also Cisse looks like an absolute predator which is v.pleasing.


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Post by: Rivertony on March 21, 2012, 04:17:17 PM
guy is a muppet and awful player too.

Happy with 3 points vs Norwich on Sun, another clean sheet and some decent performances, also Cisse looks like an absolute predator which is v.pleasing.
Cisse does look very good but a left back is a must need!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on March 21, 2012, 04:59:32 PM
Santon will be quality when he gets used to English football, Enrique was the same.


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Post by: Josedinho on March 22, 2012, 05:18:47 PM
We've just signed that muppet. Was buzzing we'd got Treacy but that is truly dreadful news.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on March 25, 2012, 05:58:17 PM
wow today was brilliant


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on March 25, 2012, 09:10:45 PM
Meet you in the middle.  Top twelve you win and anything below I win.  No push.  £250 is fine.

Is this a bet mate?

yes mate, booked.

paiiiiiiiiiiii :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on March 26, 2012, 12:00:52 PM
Abs chuffed with yday's result, can't wait for Sunday.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on March 26, 2012, 12:30:22 PM
Beat Liverpool and we've got 6th pretty much locked up surely?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on March 26, 2012, 12:36:22 PM
Beat Liverpool and we've got 6th pretty much locked up surely?

Yup, that's why I'm going, glory supporter FTW. It would seem I've literally just getting the last seat in the ground, binkkkkkkkkkkkk.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on March 26, 2012, 12:42:43 PM
Collocini out for at least 4 games, abs disaster tbh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 01, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
boooooom, outstanding.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 01, 2012, 07:51:32 PM
GTFI, anyone else want to say it's variance and we are lucky ? Nobody outside the top 6 is better than us, we deserve to be where we are and we are all fukn loving it, boooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

On the negative side if we don't invest heavily in the side Europe could be a disaster for us next season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 03, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
"He cheats, he dives, he hates the Jackson Five..." - Newcastle fans to Suarez.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 06, 2012, 12:22:56 AM
Is Perch out tomorrow? If so who plays CB with Williamson please?


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Post by: TheDazzler on April 06, 2012, 12:38:18 AM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/04/05/james-tavernier-on-stand-by-for-swansea-battle-72703-30698052/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 06, 2012, 01:08:33 PM
Think it will be

Santon Simspon Williamson Taylor

if perch is out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 06, 2012, 01:11:59 PM
Lets do this, loving having games that actually matter for positive reasons at this time of the season, gettttttttttttttttttttttt.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 06, 2012, 01:37:10 PM
Perch gonna play imo, same team, lets crush


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 06, 2012, 06:05:38 PM
That second goal was one of the best finishes I've seen all season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 06, 2012, 06:23:25 PM
GTFI, Cisse was unreal today.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 06, 2012, 07:08:38 PM
wow we havn't been able to win a game like that for 10 years!

all hail pardew.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 06, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
Can we really root for the mackems tmoro ? urghhhhhh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 06, 2012, 11:37:01 PM
Can we really root for the mackems tmoro ? urghhhhhh.

I actually dislike 'arry more than Sunderland so yes.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 07, 2012, 01:28:36 AM
yeh, fuck redknapp, gallas, adebayo, kyle walker etc. All absolute mugs. Hope the scum turn then over and we have a real shot of overtaking them.

Next 3 games are bolton at home, stoke at home and wigan away, so so important to get 9 points here. If we do then if we can get 4 points in the last 3 games of chelsea away, man city home and everton away then we have a v.gd chance of top 4.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 07, 2012, 02:00:22 AM
Can we really root for the mackems tmoro ? urghhhhhh.

I actually dislike 'arry more than Sunderland so yes.

Huh, that is absurd.

That said lets just say I won't be disappointed if we Tottenham lose tmoro.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 07, 2012, 02:07:17 AM
yeh, fuck redknapp, gallas, adebayo, kyle walker etc. All absolute mugs. Hope the scum turn then over and we have a real shot of overtaking them.

Next 3 games are bolton at home, stoke at home and wigan away, so so important to get 9 points here. If we do then if we can get 4 points in the last 3 games of chelsea away, man city home and everton away then we have a v.gd chance of top 4.

What's wrong with Kyle Walker ?

I know we are always getting accused of getting carried away but there is a very slight chance we could somehow pull this off, and today is the first time I've thought that but as you say next 3 games are all winnable, will be so incred if we get 9 from 9 just for the sweat. We want the title race to still be alive when City come up here, much more chance we get a result if that pressure is still on. Lets enjoy the dream for now anyway.

Either way...

Tell me Ma me Ma, we won't be home for tea. we're off to Italy, tell me Ma me Ma, oioiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on April 07, 2012, 04:41:44 AM
I hope spurs batter us Tomorow :-)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 07, 2012, 12:03:38 PM
I hope spurs batter us Tomorow :-)

 rotflmfao


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Post by: geordieneil on April 07, 2012, 12:15:12 PM


Next 3 games are bolton at home, stoke at home and wigan away, so so important to get 9 points here. If we do then if we can get 4 points in the last 3 games of chelsea away, man city home and everton away then we have a v.gd chance of top 4.

Just posted something very similar in Tikays Tips before I read this, I used the bbc predictor and I really think its down to getting a result against Everton and either Spurs or arsenal not winning on the last day.

  No matter what happens, its been one helluva season........many thought u were slightly blinkered at the beginning of the season (including me) so happy u and Pardew proved us wrong.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 07, 2012, 12:20:48 PM
I hope spurs batter us Tomorow :-)

 rotflmfao


  LOL

Come on Su.....haway Suhhhh...........one time Sunnnnd.............fk it can't do it


Spurs to lose , spurs to lose, spurs to lose, spppppuuuurrrsssssss toooo looooossseee :)  (that felt better)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 07, 2012, 04:56:07 PM
Sigh at Wigan being absolute morons, gtfo the league.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 09, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Should abs smash these lot today, hope we dont crumble, next 3 games are vital. Lets goooo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 09, 2012, 01:46:54 PM
Should abs smash these lot today, hope we dont crumble, next 3 games are vital. Lets goooo

It's never easy playing against relegation candidates at this stage, expecting a tough game.

LEGO


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 09, 2012, 03:08:47 PM
Anyone find stream with Eng comm plz ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 09, 2012, 04:31:17 PM
omfg best goal i ever seen. HBA < 33333333333333


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 09, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
SERIOUSLY OH MY FUKN GOD, I JUST WENT BERERK, GTFI, HOLD PLZ


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 09, 2012, 05:00:41 PM
Unreal goal from Ben Arfa, so chuffed with the results.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 09, 2012, 05:07:29 PM
omg. Is CL actually a realistic possibility now?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 09, 2012, 06:26:59 PM
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/hatem-ben-arfas-brilliant-solo-golazo-for-newcastle-v-bolton/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 09, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
The more a watch it the better it gets, such a sicko.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: ForthThistle on April 09, 2012, 09:14:08 PM
Was okay...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 09, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Next Saturday is an abs huge huge day, we play Stoke at home, Chelsea go to Arsenal and Spurs go to QPR. The form the three teams are in by next Sunday we could feasibly be 3 points clear in 4th and 5 clear of Chelsea.

#Dreamland


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on April 09, 2012, 10:51:13 PM
Loved the goal. Putting Davies? On his arse at the start is class


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 10, 2012, 12:21:00 AM
sam ricketts initially and then davies who tried to bring him down.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 11, 2012, 01:21:58 PM
Good article on Graham Carr and scouts in general: http://www.football365.com/faves/7664699/F365-Focus


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Post by: SlikVik on April 13, 2012, 01:40:21 AM
,


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pokerfan on April 13, 2012, 09:23:12 PM
Good article on Graham Carr and scouts in general: http://www.football365.com/faves/7664699/F365-Focus

Alan Carrs old man ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on April 16, 2012, 10:13:59 PM
newcastle can get 3rd if chelsea beat arsenal lol.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 16, 2012, 10:17:42 PM
#ibelieve


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 16, 2012, 10:21:07 PM
newcastle can get 3rd if chelsea beat arsenal lol.

I will be rooting for Arsenal in that game, will take 4th :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on April 16, 2012, 10:58:06 PM
True. Can't see Spurs getting much @ QPR either.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on April 21, 2012, 07:22:46 AM
Good article on Graham Carr and scouts in general: http://www.football365.com/faves/7664699/F365-Focus

Alan Carrs old man ?

Indeed he is


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on April 22, 2012, 02:59:30 PM
happy 4 u guys, BIG game versus Chelsea now


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 22, 2012, 04:37:01 PM
Next Saturday is an abs huge huge day, we play Stoke at home, Chelsea go to Arsenal and Spurs go to QPR. The form the three teams are in by next Sunday we could feasibly be 3 points clear in 4th and 5 clear of Chelsea.

#Dreamland #Reality :)

FYP


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Post by: smashedagain on April 22, 2012, 06:22:35 PM
Pleno needs more love. You guys dreamed. He just knew. Cracking season and brightened up the premiership for sure.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on April 23, 2012, 01:12:02 PM
savage to buy a new taxi cab for toon fan in bet at start of the season, 30k lol come on the toon.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 23, 2012, 10:59:35 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread.....only just found out myself


If Newcastle do manage to hold on for 4th spot, but Chelski win the champions league....we would not play champions league football next year, 4th place has to sacrafice their place if a champion league winner doesn't quaifly through their own league.

How f***ing sickening would that be?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sweet potata! on April 23, 2012, 11:05:53 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread.....only just found out myself


If Newcastle do manage to hold on for 4th spot, but Chelski win the champions league....we would not play champions league football next year, 4th place has to sacrafice their place if a champion league winner doesn't quaifly through their own league.

How f***ing sickening would that be?

That rule was brought in courtesy of Liverpool after they won the CL in 2005 but didn't qualify to defend it! But yes it would be extremely ugly if that happened to Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 24, 2012, 03:51:12 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread.....only just found out myself


If Newcastle do manage to hold on for 4th spot, but Chelski win the champions league....we would not play champions league football next year, 4th place has to sacrafice their place if a champion league winner doesn't quaifly through their own league.

How f***ing sickening would that be?

That rule was brought in courtesy of Liverpool after they won the CL in 2005 but didn't qualify to defend it! But yes it would be extremely ugly if that happened to Newcastle.

Isn't going to happen.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on April 24, 2012, 04:42:01 PM
Really hope Newc can get 4th, they've done me a good turn this season.

But don't think they will, Spurs remaining games being Blackburn, Bolton, Villa and Fulham.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 24, 2012, 05:17:11 PM
Really hope Newc can get 4th, they've done me a good turn this season.

But don't think they will, Spurs remaining games being Blackburn, Bolton, Villa and Fulham.

on paper I'd agree, but 1 win in 9 hardly the same team 1st half of the season, tonnes of pressure on them, whilst we have nothing to lose and are in cracking form..........whatever happens its been a season to remember for us


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on April 24, 2012, 09:59:23 PM
50% chance of 4th place meaning nothing now! wow.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: BorntoBubble on April 25, 2012, 04:19:06 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread.....only just found out myself


If Newcastle do manage to hold on for 4th spot, but Chelski win the champions league....we would not play champions league football next year, 4th place has to sacrafice their place if a champion league winner doesn't quaifly through their own league.

How f***ing sickening would that be?

That rule was brought in courtesy of Liverpool after they won the CL in 2005 but didn't qualify to defend it! But yes it would be extremely ugly if that happened to Newcastle.

Isn't going to happen.

didnt realise this has change would be uultra harsh on newscastle! Might have to support a German team in a Champions League Final if it comes down to it! Think NEwcastle deserve it more then Chelski!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on April 25, 2012, 06:03:16 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread.....only just found out myself


If Newcastle do manage to hold on for 4th spot, but Chelski win the champions league....we would not play champions league football next year, 4th place has to sacrafice their place if a champion league winner doesn't quaifly through their own league.

How f***ing sickening would that be?

That rule was brought in courtesy of Liverpool after they won the CL in 2005 but didn't qualify to defend it! But yes it would be extremely ugly if that happened to Newcastle.

Isn't going to happen.

didnt realise this has change would be uultra harsh on newscastle! Might have to support a German team in a Champions League Final if it comes down to it! Think NEwcastle deserve it more then Chelski!
Chelsea win the champions league and you think they don't deserve to defend their title? Would be harsh on 4th place but that won't be Newcastle. They are gonna be 3rd #plenobelieves


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 25, 2012, 01:18:16 PM
I think I would actually cry if we finish 4th and Chelsea win the CL.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 25, 2012, 01:46:18 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread.....only just found out myself


If Newcastle do manage to hold on for 4th spot, but Chelski win the champions league....we would not play champions league football next year, 4th place has to sacrafice their place if a champion league winner doesn't quaifly through their own league.

How f***ing sickening would that be?

That rule was brought in courtesy of Liverpool after they won the CL in 2005 but didn't qualify to defend it! But yes it would be extremely ugly if that happened to Newcastle.

Isn't going to happen.

didnt realise this has change would be uultra harsh on newscastle! Might have to support a German team in a Champions League Final if it comes down to it! Think NEwcastle deserve it more then Chelski!
Chelsea win the champions league and you think they don't deserve to defend their title? Would be harsh on 4th place but that won't be Newcastle. They are gonna be 3rd #plenobelieves

no I think any team that wins any cup should defend their crown, however booting out 4th place is brutal.    I wonder if there is  any compensation for this if it does happen........there is a fair few £million to lose out on.....plus the bonus of being able to attract better players


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on April 25, 2012, 07:15:44 PM
useful

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/european-qualification-permutations.html


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 26, 2012, 07:02:26 PM
useful

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/european-qualification-permutations.html

very informative, but no mention if the team that finished fourth are compensated in any way....I mean the financial rewards between CL and Europa are poles apart........makes a big difference to a club like ours...esp with attracting new players

Still agree the winners of the CL should 100% defend their title, but UEFA must be able to come up with a better option than this, maybe 4th plays the CL winner in a one off play off at least....winner CL loser Europa


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: WarBwastard on April 26, 2012, 07:28:27 PM
useful

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/european-qualification-permutations.html

very informative, but no mention if the team that finished fourth are compensated in any way....I mean the financial rewards between CL and Europa are poles apart........makes a big difference to a club like ours...esp with attracting new players

Still agree the winners of the CL should 100% defend their title, but UEFA must be able to come up with a better option than this, maybe 4th plays the CL winner in a one off play off at least....winner CL loser Europa

That's asking a bit much.  Why should you be compensated?  4th place is a provisional position.  You know that from the beginning of the season.  You know only top three are guaranteed places. They can't make a special case of Newcastle just because the money means a lot to you.  Should the team finishing 5th be compensated too if Chelsea win the Champions League? Who could they play in a one of play-off?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 26, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
useful

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/european-qualification-permutations.html

very informative, but no mention if the team that finished fourth are compensated in any way....I mean the financial rewards between CL and Europa are poles apart........makes a big difference to a club like ours...esp with attracting new players

Still agree the winners of the CL should 100% defend their title, but UEFA must be able to come up with a better option than this, maybe 4th plays the CL winner in a one off play off at least....winner CL loser Europa

That's asking a bit much.  Why should you be compensated?  4th place is a provisional position.  You know that from the beginning of the season.  You know only top three are guaranteed places. They can't make a special case of Newcastle just because the money means a lot to you.  Should the team finishing 5th be compensated too if Chelsea win the Champions League? Who could they play in a one of play-off?

Nowt to do with Newcastle (we are far from sure of 4th anyhow) whatever team finishes 4th its brutal, just think at least a play off is fairer for both sides....at least that way both make the CL (albeit a play off qualifier) and would still have the chance of attracting better players

and I didn't know 4th would lose out, I 1st found out a matter of days ago.....wasn't expecting Newcastle to be anywhere near the top 4....I shud of listened to Pads :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 28, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
ohhh dear


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 29, 2012, 02:51:56 AM
Eek


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on April 30, 2012, 03:47:40 PM
A Geordie walking along the banks of the Tyne finds a magic lamp, gives it a little rub and out pops a genie

Genie: As a thank you for releasing me from this lamp I grant you a wish

Geordie: I would like to live forever

Genie: I am afraid that I am unable to grant you that particular wish, please ask for something else

Geordie: Ok, Id like to live to see the day Sunderland play in the champions League

Genie:  ooooooh you crafty twat


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 30, 2012, 03:50:40 PM
 rotflmfao

Love it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on April 30, 2012, 04:38:47 PM
A Geordie walking along the banks of the Tyne finds a magic lamp, gives it a little rub and out pops a genie

Genie: As a thank you for releasing me from this lamp I grant you a wish

Geordie: I would like to live forever

Genie: I am afraid that I am unable to grant you that particular wish, please ask for something else

Geordie: Ok, Id like to live to see the day Sunderland play in the champions League

Genie:  ooooooh you crafty twat


hahaha  10/10 n1 Guy, shall be using that lots :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 02, 2012, 07:25:18 PM
CFC: Cech; Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Bertrand; Mikel, Meireles, Ramires, Malouda; Sturridge, Torres.
Subs: Turnbull, Cole, Essien, Lampard, Mata, Kalou, Drogba.

NUFC: Krul; Perch, Williamson, Coloccini, Santon; Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez; Ben Arfa, Cisse, Ba.
Subs: Elliot, Ferguson, Gosling, R.Taylor, Obertan, Marveaux, Sh.Ameobi


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 02, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
hold


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 02, 2012, 08:33:36 PM
Ba was so unlucky there, great 1st half performance, 45mins more plz boys.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 02, 2012, 09:07:47 PM
i fucking hate mikel, he is such a dirty horrible bastard


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 02, 2012, 09:10:10 PM
i fucking hate mikel, he is such a dirty horrible bastard

No way where Tiote and Mikel challenges the same, Tiote only had eyes on the ball and there was no intent, Mikel deliberately lead with his elbow and caught him in the face, should've been a red and he doesn't even get booked, abs joke.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 02, 2012, 09:40:38 PM
omg


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 02, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
Very brave team selection by Pardew, great performance, again.

As for Cisse, seems real.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 02, 2012, 10:27:03 PM
That was the most amazing strike I've seen the Roberto Carlos free kick about 15 years ago.

Hat's off.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on May 02, 2012, 10:27:53 PM
That was the most amazing strike I've seen the Roberto Carlos free kick about 15 years ago.

Hat's off.

Bit lucky IMO

 ;marks;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on May 02, 2012, 10:30:49 PM
He scores when he wants


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheDazzler on May 02, 2012, 10:34:50 PM
Great performance. Best of luck against City this weekend. Should be an unbelieveable atmosphere at the game. I really hope Tiote will be fit for it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on May 02, 2012, 10:35:08 PM
Fantastic goal. He meant it as well. Drogba was laughing after it with Pardew.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 02, 2012, 10:37:42 PM
(http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-8zjkh2.gif)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 02, 2012, 10:48:06 PM
There are no words to describe that goal.

And I read that tiote is fine!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 02, 2012, 10:53:20 PM
Sunday is going to be awesome.

Shame it's not last game of the season really.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 02, 2012, 10:56:02 PM
I think we have more chance of finishing ahead of Arsenal than we do Spurs, CMON NORWICH CMON NORWICH.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 02, 2012, 11:09:52 PM
Sunday is going to be awesome.

Shame it's not last game of the season really.

still think Newcastle are an average side at best?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 02, 2012, 11:55:38 PM
The sun gave cisse an 8 today, wtf does he have to do more???

Perch and colocini both got 6s and were both abs incred.

#whopaysthesemugs
#youdontknowwhatyouredoing


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on May 03, 2012, 12:09:34 AM
I think we have more chance of finishing ahead of Arsenal than we do Spurs, CMON NORWICH CMON NORWICH.

What price can I have Arsenal in match bet please?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 03, 2012, 12:37:46 AM
Sunday is going to be awesome.

Shame it's not last game of the season really.

still think Newcastle are an average side at best?

Pretty much with these exceptions:

I think Cisse is the best midseason signing since the introduction of the transfer window. Although it must be luck. Plenty of other teams looked at him and passed. What did they see which put them off?

Dropping Obertain has been massive.

Ben Arfa has been red hot, but I don't think he can keep it up for even half a season.

Still don't think there's much difference between Newcastle and any mid table team.

It's variance.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 12:51:51 AM
It's just totally ridiculous lol

You fail to mention we have a top top class goalkeeper..

Even of you did miss this you failed to miss out our most important player fabrizio colocini, our captain and driving force. He was nominated in the pfa team of the year.

We then move through to the middle of te team continuing with a fantastic spine and we have tiote and cabaye who have absolutely bossed it, tiote in particular would get in any team in the premiership.

Your comments about hba are just ridiculous, tell me one player from another mid table team who could perform as well as e has for half a season. Even silva went wayyyyy off the boil.

We then have captain pards who gets the best out of ordinary players he has transformed James perch from the worst defender in the premiership to a consistent 8/10 performer.

He has even got the best out of shola ffa.

Pards knows when to play 443, when to play 2 big strikers and has been an amazing tactician all year.

So to summarise... We have a top 3 goalkeeper, one of top 3 centre halfs, one of if not the best midfield partnership, one of the best, most skilful, productive wingers, and 2of the most prolific strikers?

Some people just refuse to give Newcastle credit it's ridiculous.

You also can't say of you didn't have cisse... What if man u didn't have Rooney or arsenal didnt have van persie?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 12:53:38 AM
I'll also bet as much as you want that Ben arfas average rating in the first 20 games of next season is higher than a similar player from a mid table team?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 03, 2012, 01:16:01 AM
Ben Arfa has played really well recently, but he is just a skilful Premiership player. Every team (except prob Stoke and Wolves) has got one. To even mention him in the same breath as Silva is ridiculous

Maloney - Wigan
Taarabt - QPR
Sinclair - Swansea
Hoolahan - Norwich
Sessignon - Sunderland

All capable of playing to the level Ben Arfa has played for the last few weeks.

Krul is good, probably above average. But nowhere near being in the top 5 keepers in the league.

Tiote is good too, but he wouldn't get in any of the top teams starting XI. he's not as good as Yaya Toure, Song, Parker, Carrick or whoever Chelsea play in the holding role (changes every week!)

You've had a great season. Congrats. But don't delude yourself that Newcastle are worthy of being in the Champions League. The only reason you have any chance is because Chelsea, Lolerpool, Tottenham and Arsenal have massively underperformed this season.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2012, 01:36:04 AM
Tiote is definitely better than Carrick, Parker and Ramires.

I think we have more chance of finishing ahead of Arsenal than we do Spurs, CMON NORWICH CMON NORWICH.

What price can I have Arsenal in match bet please?

Over Newcastle or Spurs ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2012, 01:52:26 AM
Not sure how Krul is nowhere near top 5 Keith, interested in who the 8 or so keepers are that mean he's nowhere near ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2012, 01:58:03 AM
If we don't strengthen in the Summer as well as keeping our best players I'd be suprised if we challenge the top 6 next season as our squad is too thin and we'll be playing more games. As it is now I'd say there's the top 6 then us and Everton then the rest, don't see any of the rest being able to compare man for man versus our best XI.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 03, 2012, 02:55:23 AM
4th place points:

2010-11 - 68
2009-10 - 70
2008-09 - 72

We are currently on 65 with 2 games to go. Assuming we need to win them both to stand a chance of 4th then that puts us on 71. To me that's enough points to qualify on your own merits rather than having to put it down to other teams under performing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 03, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Oh and, should we actually finish 4th (still think we're underdogs) then we won't have to delude ourselves that we're worthy of being in the Champions League. We'll know we're worthy of it because we finished 4th. Stands to reason.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on May 03, 2012, 06:38:54 AM
Before yesterday Cabaye and Dembele had made the most tackles in the prem. Not something you'd have expected from somebody that is seen as the classier of the 2 CM's.

P.S Keith is on the wind up so don't bite too hard


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on May 03, 2012, 08:05:52 AM
Tiote is definitely better than Carrick, Parker and Ramires.

I think we have more chance of finishing ahead of Arsenal than we do Spurs, CMON NORWICH CMON NORWICH.

What price can I have Arsenal in match bet please?

Over Newcastle or Spurs ?

Arsenal v Newcastle this season


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2012, 08:23:55 AM
The sun gave cisse an 8 today, wtf does he have to do more???

Perch and colocini both got 6s and were both abs incred.

#whopaysthesemugs
#youdontknowwhatyouredoing

If you read redtops, you'll get redtop ratings, Patrick.

FWIW, "The Times" rated those three as follows - Cisse 9, Perch 7, Coloccini 7. (Tiote also got 9).


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 09:50:14 AM
Ben Arfa has played really well recently, but he is just a skilful Premiership player. Every team (except prob Stoke and Wolves) has got one. To even mention him in the same breath as Silva is ridiculous

Maloney - Wigan
Taarabt - QPR
Sinclair - Swansea
Hoolahan - Norwich
Sessignon - Sunderland



$2k on Ben Arfa vs each of these individually that he has the highest average rating for the first 20 games of next season?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 09:50:56 AM


Krul is good, probably above average. But nowhere near being in the top 5 keepers in the league.



Again, 2k Krul average rating vs 4 goalkeepers of your choice?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 09:52:27 AM

Tiote is good too, but he wouldn't get in any of the top teams starting XI. he's not as good as Yaya Toure, Song, Parker, Carrick or whoever Chelsea play in the holding role (changes every week!)



lol so ridic. He would get in any team in the premiership, just because he may not be as influencial as Yaya Toure doesn't mean Gareth Barry would keep him out of the side. He destroyed Carrick and co when we played Man United  as well.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on May 03, 2012, 09:55:10 AM


Krul is good, probably above average. But nowhere near being in the top 5 keepers in the league.



Again, 2k Krul average rating vs 4 goalkeepers of your choice?
You may get some action here


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7725450/Mancini-Toon-tougher-than-Utd


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 10:13:38 AM
Santon has been fantastic since he returned to the team too.

Really, really hope Simpson leaves in the summer.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Skgv on May 03, 2012, 12:20:48 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7725450/Mancini-Toon-tougher-than-Utd
In many ways this is a tougher game than The Derby game as It seemed unlikely that they could beat man utd , then newcastle an then qpr wt all teams having something to play for. Also i think Newcastle with that win last nite will beleive they can beat Man City which will put pressure on them an also now man city will be feeling pressure again as the last few weeks they probaly needed a miracle to get back in it an are right back in it so its going be interesting? Anyone think it could end in the draw as when the hype of both teams needing to win it inevitably ends 1#1 lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 03, 2012, 01:29:27 PM
Newcastle are 9-1 to finish third... Arsenal 4/9, Spurs 21/10.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2012, 01:43:37 PM
Tiote is definitely better than Carrick, Parker and Ramires.

I think we have more chance of finishing ahead of Arsenal than we do Spurs, CMON NORWICH CMON NORWICH.

What price can I have Arsenal in match bet please?

Over Newcastle or Spurs ?

Arsenal v Newcastle this season

I don't think we will finish ahead of Arsenal, or Spurs. I was just making the point that people don't seem to even be including Arsenal in the equation and before yday were saying it's 1 from 3 but if I had to bet on who'd get 6/6 from last 2 games i'd say Spurs then Arsenal then us. I expect us to get 5th and if we do then that's an unbelievable achievement. Most likely Arsenal and Spurs will both get 6 points and it won't matter what we do, would be so brutal if we missed out on gd.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on May 03, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
Would imagine this has already got mentioned, but it would be gutting as a neutral to see Newcastle 4th and Chelsea win the champs league. Want Chelsea to win and Newcastle qualify. Do a third please. Love it when a new team qualifies after so long.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on May 03, 2012, 02:18:50 PM
I think you are asking a lot for Newcastle to come 4th Ant.

They have Man City at home then Everton away. Spurs have Villa away then Fulham at home.

Consolation wise I think Pardew has his sights set on 5th rather than 6th so they don't have to spend time in the summer qualifying for the Europa League.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on May 03, 2012, 03:10:21 PM
I think you are asking a lot for Newcastle to come 4th Ant.

They have Man City at home then Everton away. Spurs have Villa away then Fulham at home.

Consolation wise I think Pardew has his sights set on 5th rather than 6th so they don't have to spend time in the summer qualifying for the Europa League.

Just saw the fixtures for all the teams around 4th/3rd and you are right. I have Newcastle barely maintaining 5th, after i think Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham will win their remaining games with Newcastle probs getting 2/3 points. I for one am a terrible punter and i want to see some shit go down for Newcastle to run away with it. Cisse and Ba in the Champo would be exciting.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 03, 2012, 03:44:10 PM
Ben Arfa has played really well recently, but he is just a skilful Premiership player. Every team (except prob Stoke and Wolves) has got one. To even mention him in the same breath as Silva is ridiculous

Maloney - Wigan
Taarabt - QPR
Sinclair - Swansea
Hoolahan - Norwich
Sessignon - Sunderland

All capable of playing to the level Ben Arfa has played for the last few weeks.

Krul is good, probably above average. But nowhere near being in the top 5 keepers in the league.



lol - wind up? I'd say ben Arfa is same level as Lennon - both got no world class end product. Those players mentioned are different style players! only person who a midtable team have who is as good as Arfa is Drenthe, but then he is RM's player. Taarabt COULD be as good but I haven't seen it yet.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2012, 05:00:38 PM
For anyone who hasn't seen the first goal which was also pretty incred...

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/video/allvideos-22327918/29166784


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on May 03, 2012, 06:00:16 PM


Krul is good, probably above average. But nowhere near being in the top 5 keepers in the league.



Again, 2k Krul average rating vs 4 goalkeepers of your choice?

What average rating would you be doing here? Sounds absurd to be putting that offer out there. Surely Hart for one had consistently better ratings than Krul and will do next year. I am not sure to be fair.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on May 03, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
probably based on Plenos impartial private average ratings!! If its not il obviously accept and let u know 4 goalies start of next year


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on May 03, 2012, 06:03:06 PM
so 8k bets in total


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 06:47:32 PM
Haha I was just go smacked by the comment. It really depends on what the ratings are though. It's really hard to beat lurk because generally we restrict teams to long shots and keepers like given get overrated based purely on their shot stopping rather than crosses/kicking etc what would be a fair way of doing it.

For Ben arfa we could do assists = x points goals = y points or sonething


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 06:49:33 PM
Also bettong on forums especially blonde is stupid because you can always lay a bet off but with this it will be very hard to so probably most chance that I will do this bet over any others. Hart will v v rarely get over a 7 whilst Krul probably hasn't had less than a 6 this season so surely Krul would be a face right?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on May 03, 2012, 09:59:59 PM
Brilliant stuff ITT.

Great work guys.

Which newspaper/website are you using for the ratings?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 11:14:14 PM
thats the problem, if Dubai trsuted me I would lke to do the ratings, I'd watch 90 mins of all matches every week and promise to be v.v.v.vhonest


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on May 03, 2012, 11:17:43 PM
thats the problem, if Dubai trsuted me I would lke to do the ratings, I'd watch 90 mins of all matches every week and promise to be v.v.v.vhonest

Prob easiest to use the sun or the telegraph. Maybe you could use the independent?

I guess if you've changed your mind you could ask Dubai if you can buy out?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 11:32:20 PM
Yep buy out of a bet with no terms set. I just did Krul vs 5 keepers using sun for this season and he cruised it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on May 04, 2012, 12:05:39 AM
Yep buy out of a bet with no terms set. I just did Krul vs 5 keepers using sun for this season and he cruised it.
Who cruised it? Krul or Dubai


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 04, 2012, 12:24:33 AM
Yep buy out of a bet with no terms set. I just did Krul vs 5 keepers using sun for this season and he cruised it.
Who cruised it? Krul or Dubai

Dubai taking penalties against Krul would be fun to bet on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on May 04, 2012, 09:21:03 AM
Yep buy out of a bet with no terms set. I just did Krul vs 5 keepers using sun for this season and he cruised it.
Who cruised it? Krul or Dubai

Dubai taking penalties against Krul would be fun to bet on.
Lol. Yeah reckon Krul's bottle goes before Daves does :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Eso Kral on May 04, 2012, 09:24:51 AM
Yep buy out of a bet with no terms set. I just did Krul vs 5 keepers using sun for this season and he cruised it.
Who cruised it? Krul or Dubai

Dubai taking penalties against Krul would be fun to bet on.
Only if he is wearing "The Slippers!!!"


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 04, 2012, 09:54:25 AM
Yep buy out of a bet with no terms set. I just did Krul vs 5 keepers using sun for this season and he cruised it.
Who cruised it? Krul or Dubai

Dubai taking penalties against Krul would be fun to bet on.


:DD:D:D

missed this but would be incred


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 05, 2012, 10:59:05 AM
Lay Man City at 4/6?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 05, 2012, 01:31:29 PM
Blatantly pen to make it 3-1 Norwich, what a joke.

That said, HOLD PLZZZZZZZZZZ.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: claypole on May 05, 2012, 02:32:37 PM
Dream result - if we hold.......two for RvP and a point for my beloved Toons cause - if Carlsberg made results


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on May 05, 2012, 02:42:37 PM
Booooooooooom
get in the Norwich.

still gonna be hard but its in our hands now

c'mon the toon


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 05, 2012, 02:45:37 PM
what a fucking game.

cmon the yids and newcastle, put arsene 5th!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: claypole on May 05, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
Booooooooooom
get in the Norwich.

still gonna be hard but its in our hands now

c'mon the toon

Well...ours and Bayern Munichs ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 05, 2012, 02:48:07 PM
Booooooooooom
get in the Norwich.

still gonna be hard but its in our hands now

c'mon the toon

Well...ours and Bayern Munichs ;)

Just get 3rd ldo, Newc/Villa double tmoro and it could get very very messy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 05, 2012, 02:51:48 PM
Oioiiiii fkin oiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. Come on, 3 points tomoz and anything but a spurs win for an epic sweat next week


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 05, 2012, 03:04:52 PM
wow, tomorrow is absolutely massive now


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on May 06, 2012, 08:25:21 AM
:)



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 06, 2012, 08:52:55 AM
Big big game. Mad.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 06, 2012, 12:20:15 PM
newcwastle never have anything to play for at the end of the season, except when we got relegated. lets fucking go, so buzzing


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 06, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
anyone think tim krul looks like klitz from the girl next door?

http://content6.flixster.com/photo/10/94/77/10947720_ori.jpg


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on May 06, 2012, 02:22:27 PM
Come on boys!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on May 06, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
villa 1 up v Spurts


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on May 06, 2012, 03:00:56 PM
oh dear


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2012, 10:44:15 PM
Do any Toon fans still think Tiote and Cabaye are in the same class as Yaya Toure and Barry?

Completely and utterly owned.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 06, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
barry wasn't good, tiote getting booked after 10 mins killed him though, couldnt go flying in as rough as usual. yaya is best cm in prem though yeh


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 07, 2012, 11:30:12 PM
Do any Toon fans still think Tiote and Cabaye are in the same class as Yaya Toure and Barry?

Completely and utterly owned.



Tiote is class and I'd rather have him over Barry. I'm unsure over Cabaye, he's good but seems to struggle against the top teams.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 08, 2012, 09:46:19 PM
Guaranteed 5th minimum. Absolute ridic season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 08, 2012, 09:53:51 PM
Guaranteed 5th minimum. Absolute ridic season.

Just considering whether this is our greatest achievement in the time I've been a Newcastle fan, think it's got to be right up there.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 08, 2012, 09:57:23 PM
Guaranteed 5th minimum. Absolute ridic season.

Just considering whether this is our greatest achievement in the time I've been a Newcastle fan, think it's got to be right up there.

I think if we make CL it will be. SBR getting us to 4th probably pips it otherwise, the fact we've broken even money-wise is also huge too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 08, 2012, 10:00:53 PM
Btw, what do people think of our new away kit for next season? I love it, best one we've had for ages.

(http://www.epltalk.com/media/2012/05/newcastle-united-away-shirt1.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 08, 2012, 10:03:05 PM
Guaranteed 5th minimum. Absolute ridic season.

Just considering whether this is our greatest achievement in the time I've been a Newcastle fan, think it's got to be right up there.

I think if we make CL it will be. SBR getting us to 4th probably pips it otherwise, the fact we've broken even money-wise is also huge too.

Trying to remember back but I think us getting 5th this season was much more unlikely than 4th back then. I think Sir Bobby is the best manager we've had in my lifetime but Pardews achievements this season are unbelievable.

+1 to liking the top.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on May 09, 2012, 06:58:04 AM
Guaranteed 5th minimum. Absolute ridic season.

Just considering whether this is our greatest achievement in the time I've been a Newcastle fan, think it's got to be right up there.

I think if we make CL it will be. SBR getting us to 4th probably pips it otherwise, the fact we've broken even money-wise is also huge too.

Trying to remember back but I think us getting 5th this season was much more unlikely than 4th back then. I think Sir Bobby is the best manager we've had in my lifetime but Pardews achievements this season are unbelievable.

+1 to liking the top.

I keep forgetting how ridiculously young some of you are.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on May 09, 2012, 07:20:18 AM
Guaranteed 5th minimum. Absolute ridic season.

Just considering whether this is our greatest achievement in the time I've been a Newcastle fan, think it's got to be right up there.

I think if we make CL it will be. SBR getting us to 4th probably pips it otherwise, the fact we've broken even money-wise is also huge too.

Trying to remember back but I think us getting 5th this season was much more unlikely than 4th back then. I think Sir Bobby is the best manager we've had in my lifetime but Pardews achievements this season are unbelievable.

+1 to liking the top.

I keep forgetting how ridiculously young some of you are.

Thanks David.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 09, 2012, 10:20:35 AM
keegans first season in the prem after we got promoted was pretty huge.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 09, 2012, 12:06:27 PM
keegans first season in the prem after we got promoted was pretty huge.

I have that on video, losing our first two games then managing to get a draw at Old Trafford and suddenly it all went from there.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on May 11, 2012, 06:45:17 PM
Pardew has been named manager of the season.  :)

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/11/3096014/newcastle-united-boss-pardew-named-barclays-manager-of-the


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 12, 2012, 10:14:23 AM
Much deserved, congrats Pardiola.

Interview here with him for anyone interested about targets etc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00r955t/Total_Sport_Alan_Pardew_phonein/

This from NUFC.com

Main points:

Alluded to the possibility of signing a pal of Yohan Cabaye, which echoes recent comments attributed to our number 4 about his former Lille team mate Mathieu Debuchy, a 26 year-old right back.

Disappointed by quality of set pieces and contemplating appointing a coach with a specific remit in that area. Looking for more authority in the box at set pieces and a goalscoring centre half ("to score eight goals a season").

No guarantee that Demba Ba will remain for next season but hopes are high and club's qualification for Europe and the support to him from the fans is playing a major part in bettering the chances of him staying at SJP.

(Talking about the temperament of Ba and how he's coped with Cisse hogging the limelight, Pardew likened Demba to Madonna bringing on Cisse, as Lady Gaga!)

Wouldn't go into detail about Ba's release clause, but maintained that some of what has been claimed in the media about it is correct - and some isn't.
 
Three trialists were currently at the club - two of them French. One of those is a defender who can get forward and is making a good impression.

Pardew's player of the season: Fabricio Coloccini
Pardew's favourite player: Shola Ameobi
Pardew's favourite goal: Ben Arfa v Blackburn (h)

Carvers' favourite goal: Cabaye v Man United (h)

Taken advice from Stoke, Fulham, Spurs on the logistics of their European campaigns this season and on player preparation etc. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 12, 2012, 10:55:49 PM
pards is a joker, abs hilar


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2012, 11:28:09 AM
No matter how today goes it's been a great season and I've loved every minute of it, that said... GETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on May 13, 2012, 11:57:57 AM
I'm currently in Singapore getting myself ready for the biggest weekend of football for at least a decade (for a toon fan), Robson had a great couple of seasons, aswell as Keegan, but this is the season I've enjoyed the most....simply because it was so unexpected.

   Meeting up with the NUFC Singapore supporters club, so should be a cracking atmosphere, they are giving away 2 free pints if you turn up in black and white (£8 a pint average over here :(  ) 


HOWAY THE LADS




A Man is walking through a park in Newcastle one day, when he hears a child screaming. To his horror he sees a rottweiller attacking a small boy.
Without a second thought the man dives onto the dog and a monumental battle begins.

The man gets bitten and clawed to within an inch of his life but somehow manages to pull the dog off the child, with the last ounce of strength he strangles the ferocious beast.

A man with a camera around his neck rushes over to the bloody scene.

"I'm a reporter with the Newcastle Chronicle and that is the bravest deed i have ever seen. I can jst see the front page now - GEORDIE HERO SAVES CHILD FROM CERTAIN DEATH"

"That's very kind of you replies the hero - but I'm not a Geordie - I'm from Sunderland"

The reported thinks for a while and replies

"That's alright - You'll still make the headlines - MACKEM B*****D KILLS FAMILY PET"


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 13, 2012, 12:14:43 PM
The way pardew talks in thy phone in very very very nearly turned me on.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2012, 06:05:46 PM
We had a good run.

Not really sure what Pardew's thinking was saying we could lose our best players the day before this huge game but meh I have no complaints we performed way above expectation, would be just as suprised if we are up there this time next year.

So so so jealous of the die hard City fans, iwwil to feel such euphoria that they did today, jellly. Great for the game, loved it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on May 13, 2012, 06:13:56 PM
Wp Newc, amazing season, never forget a lot of people thought you might go down and you came 5th. Europe awaits, the Europa league is a miles better competition that most people give it credit for, it will be good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Dubai on May 13, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
Could be a bad thing for Newcastle tho, games can catch up with you.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 13, 2012, 06:25:14 PM
Could be a bad thing for Newcastle tho, games can catch up with you.

Totally agree, our squad is far too weak at the moment to cope with the extra games and as it seems likely that we'll keep hold of our best players I'd be suprised if we strenghten enough to have a good enough squad to battle in the Lge, Europe and the cups.

Hope I'm wrong again though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on May 23, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
Newcastle United have bolstered their French contingent after announcing the signing of Romain Amalfitano from Reims.

more to follow


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 25, 2012, 09:11:19 AM
Yet nice to get an early signing. Harper leaving isn't a big issue but I an sad to see Guthrie leave, think he's been as good if not better than cabaye this year. Don't know much about the new guy but I expect him to be back up to first team and great addition for our European campaign.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on May 25, 2012, 11:48:09 PM
Harper hasn't gone has he? Sure I read he was talking about going out on loan


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 27, 2012, 06:24:48 PM
Harper hasn't gone has he? Sure I read he was talking about going out on loan

he wasn't the best when on loan for us, hope we don't go back in for him.

odds on newcastle for the europa league?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on May 29, 2012, 02:03:57 PM
After 38 years of waiting I finally got my chance to fulfil my life long dream, today I was asked if I could play for NUFCSINGAPORE SUPPORTERS CLUB V ARSENALSUPPORTERS CLUB

My lifes complete :)

I will try to my club proud and drink at least 10 bottles during the match :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 29, 2012, 06:12:59 PM
So, do we think Ba will stay?

I'm actually not worried if leaves just because we must already have a replacement lined up and going by our scouting team, he's bound to be ridic good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 29, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
i like the 433 formation and think it suits cabaye,tiote, ben arfa and cisse perfectly.

i think that ba isn't as good as cisse and that his attitude wasn't great over the last 6 months, nor his form. I would prefer to have an out an out left winger and also not rely on the two guys too much as January is a huge month and both will be at the ACN again. However keeping Cisse happy may mean keeping Ba happy.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on September 27, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
8 year contract ext for pardew!?!? Wow


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 27, 2012, 03:49:18 PM
8 year contract ext for pardew!?!? Wow

Guess Ashley just likes to give out 8 year contracts, pretty bizarre in the current era, assume there are clauses etc.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 27, 2012, 04:09:26 PM
Pretty crazy that you need to have as many points on your ST to get a ticket for Brugge as you do for the Mackems away. Rumour that 16000 Geordies heading over when we only getting 1500 tickets, love it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: cdw1111 on October 11, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
Whats the reaction back home to the sponsorship deal with wonga?I find the company quite unsettling.

Brugge will have to order more beer.I went on the away trips to Antwerp and Barca where we took several thousand good times.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 11, 2012, 12:43:18 PM
Whats the reaction back home to the sponsorship deal with wonga?I find the company quite unsettling.

Brugge will have to order more beer.I went on the away trips to Antwerp and Barca where we took several thousand good times.

Mp's up in arms, doubt many other fans are that bothered tbh, it is a bit naughty though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on November 19, 2012, 01:46:38 AM
I know we probably overachieved last season but why are we so shit at the moment?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on December 04, 2012, 04:56:57 PM
this thread has died now that newcastle are sh1t again.

any of you making your way down for the fa cup repeat of last season? on itv though!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 04, 2012, 05:04:03 PM
Most teams would probably be "shit" if they had a full team of 1st team players out.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on December 04, 2012, 05:32:08 PM
Really?

Cabaye, Arfa, Taylor out is a whole team? Taylor has only just picked up an injury, and Arfa only missed the last 2 or 3 games?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 06, 2012, 06:10:00 PM
What a joke Ranger playing, don't care if he scores a hatrick, he's a twat and shouldn't get to wear the black n white ever again.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on December 11, 2012, 02:39:28 AM
pleno fairweather fan


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 11, 2012, 09:52:39 AM
Ha!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Skgv on December 14, 2012, 05:10:54 AM
hi mond !
   
What u reckon the result will be on saturday as both teams need a postive result ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 19, 2012, 10:47:24 PM
hi mond !
   
What u reckon the result will be on saturday as both teams need a postive result ?

Only just seen this, ermm let's just say I'm worried. Harry, as expected has got a response from the players , but this is a huge game for us and I'd expect us to step up and get the win, wouldn't bet on it though for sure.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Skgv on December 19, 2012, 11:51:19 PM
hi mond !
   
What u reckon the result will be on saturday as both teams need a postive result ?

Only just seen this, ermm let's just say I'm worried. Harry, as expected has got a response from the players , but this is a huge game for us and I'd expect us to step up and get the win, wouldn't bet on it though for sure.
this post was for the man city game m8! Newcastle lost as I thought they might. Where u been ?.? Lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2012, 11:55:35 PM
Any Toon fans going?

My ticket arrived today.

Harry Redknapp's twitchy army!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on December 20, 2012, 12:28:30 AM
It's all gone quiet now they're going down


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
It's all gone quiet now they're going down

Wish I could be bothered to find my posts saying there were over performing, would come down with a crach etc

pleno mocked me!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 20, 2012, 01:12:53 AM
hi mond !
   
What u reckon the result will be on saturday as both teams need a postive result ?

Only just seen this, ermm let's just say I'm worried. Harry, as expected has got a response from the players , but this is a huge game for us and I'd expect us to step up and get the win, wouldn't bet on it though for sure.
this post was for the man city game m8! Newcastle lost as I thought they might. Where u been ?.? Lol

Oh lol, well everyone would've predicted a City win but guess the price would've been terrible


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 20, 2012, 08:24:37 AM
It's all gone quiet now they're going down

Wish I could be bothered to find my posts saying there were over performing, would come down with a crach etc

pleno mocked me!

I think most Newcastle fans will agree that we over-performed last season but even so I wouldn't expect us to be doing this badly.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Skgv on December 20, 2012, 09:36:51 AM
hi mond !
   
What u reckon the result will be on saturday as both teams need a postive result ?

Only just seen this, ermm let's just say I'm worried. Harry, as expected has got a response from the players , but this is a huge game for us and I'd expect us to step up and get the win, wouldn't bet on it though for sure.
this post was for the man city game m8! Newcastle lost as I thought they might. Where u been ?.? Lol

Oh lol, well everyone would've predicted a City win but guess the price would've been terrible
8/11 was the best price


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 02, 2013, 02:27:17 PM
gg Demba Ba



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 02, 2013, 04:26:39 PM
gg Demba Ba



fuck him, mug. abs detest the guy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 02, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
gg Demba Ba



fuck him, mug. abs detest the guy.

Y ?

Gl to him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 02, 2013, 05:21:28 PM
meh, he refused to play on the wing and probably cost us lots of points, cisse never been able to play on the wing but Demba did last year really well and everything was working. Not the whole story but he's definitely not a team player, ruling himself out today when our squad is the thinnest its been in years, do the shift for the team in a really really important match and then speak to Chelsea tomorrow. He got put on the wing once so Cisse could play upfront and he went to the papers with his agents.

Also missed a penalty vs Sunderland. Mug


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 02, 2013, 06:17:41 PM
Not the whole story but he's definitely not a team player, ruling himself out today when our squad is the thinnest its been in years, do the shift for the team in a really really important match and then speak to Chelsea tomorrow.

alan pardews choice, wants it done with asap. your bench is really really poor. team is far better than villas 11 though.

debuchy in the stands today. he was one of the best players at the Euros.

wonder if danny graham will go there, isn't he a geordie?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 02, 2013, 06:56:47 PM
oh and he scored an own goal against Sunderland in which would have been the sweetest 0-1 of all time!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 02, 2013, 07:00:53 PM
                    Krul


Debuchy   Collocini   X      Santon



          Anita   Tiote  Cabaye


HBA                Cisse                Ba Replacement


is a v v good team. Simpson is so so bad and a huge weak link, so Debuchy is huge.

A bench of

Harper
Steven Taylor
Ryan Taylor
Perch (genuinely deece)
Marveux (genuinely deece)
Obertan (rapidly improving)
Bigirimana
Ferguson


Europe has really fucked us this year though. We'e 3 signings away from a very very good squad. Our first choice 11 > Evertons imo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 02, 2013, 07:59:24 PM
Not the whole story but he's definitely not a team player, ruling himself out today when our squad is the thinnest its been in years, do the shift for the team in a really really important match and then speak to Chelsea tomorrow.

alan pardews choice, wants it done with asap. your bench is really really poor. team is far better than villas 11 though.

debuchy in the stands today. he was one of the best players at the Euros.

wonder if danny graham will go there, isn't he a geordie?

I'd say we have the worst bench that's been picked by any team in the League this season, so so weak.

He is a Geordie and would be suprised if he wasn't interested.

Debuchy should be class.

Anita wouldn't make my team if everyone was fully fit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 02, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
Anita has been really really good over the last 6 weeks, probably our only good player atm. He started really poorly, but Dutch league is so much slower than prem.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: millidonk on January 02, 2013, 08:25:31 PM
That fiver would have been straight in my sock.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 02, 2013, 08:38:24 PM
Anita has been really really good over the last 6 weeks, probably our only good player atm. He started really poorly, but Dutch league is so much slower than prem.

has been awesome so far today <3 him


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on January 02, 2013, 08:49:37 PM
That fiver would have been straight in my sock.
lol.  Give it to a kid, not the steward


Wow boom


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 02, 2013, 08:50:07 PM
Newcastle without Ba look alot more committed and purposeful than they did when I saw them v QPR a couple of weeks ago.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 02, 2013, 08:53:17 PM
ridiculous, far less contact on fellani than there was on Shola.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Royal Flush on January 06, 2013, 12:37:25 PM
Thanks for coming down to visit us again boys, same time next year?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 06, 2013, 01:55:41 PM
Waits for a newcastle fan to post about the players they had missing. We had four of our first 11 missing ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on January 06, 2013, 01:59:00 PM
Thanks for coming down to visit us again boys, same time next year?


(http://www.101greatgoals.com/wp-content/gallery/gimages/thumbs/thumbs_jacket.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 06, 2013, 09:10:49 PM
Disappointing to constantly do shite in the cups but probably for the best.

Huge three games for us now, 4 points minimum is a must.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Josedinho on January 09, 2013, 09:38:55 PM
Tiote been below par this season?
No Jonas in plenos squad? He d be in my team never mind squad.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 09, 2013, 09:53:12 PM
Tiote been below par this season?
No Jonas in plenos squad? He d be in my team never mind squad.

Below par is a huge understatement, all the lads that go to the match saying we should sell him.

Jonas isn't good enough and I said this years ago, hasn't improved since the day he came, people like him because he works hard but that's not enough, his end product is diabolical, not good enough to be in a top 10 prem team.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 11, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
oh dear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20985928



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 11, 2013, 03:08:46 PM
Oh thats gay! At least he signed new contract last year and there's no release clauses ha


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 11, 2013, 03:13:06 PM
Absolute nut worst player to lose, nobody anywhere near as good as him would come here,FOLs.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on January 11, 2013, 03:23:17 PM
Agree absolutely.  His absences a big reason for the difference in your form between last year and this I think.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 11, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
We're are up shit creek now with regards to centre backs, Taylor is terrible without a world class partner beside him and WIlliamson is just terrible no matter what, disaster for the team basically.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 13, 2013, 02:44:32 PM
Loic Remy flying over for talks as per SSN.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 13, 2013, 03:12:47 PM
Anybody know if he's decent?

Debuchy and santon behind Ben arfa and remy. Cabaye and tiote fit hold on to colocini and we look like a top 6 team


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: samj19 on January 13, 2013, 10:52:28 PM
He cant get a game for Marseille. Cant be that good. Also heard hes a pain in the arse


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 13, 2013, 11:09:22 PM
                   Krul

Debuchy taylor colocini . Santon


           Cabaye tiote Anita


Hba.             Cisse.          Remy


Nom


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 13, 2013, 11:15:34 PM
Anybody know if he's decent?

Debuchy and santon behind Ben arfa and remy. Cabaye and tiote fit hold on to colocini and we look like a top 6 team

<3 pads


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 14, 2013, 12:37:04 AM
delusional


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on January 14, 2013, 01:02:24 AM
What are you on about? There are no delusional fans on this site.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 14, 2013, 03:12:14 AM
                   Krul

Debuchy taylor colocini . Santon


           Cabaye tiote Anita


Hba.             Cisse.          Remy

Nom

Squads joke terrible, Tiote's lost the plot, nobody I know agrees with your opinion of Anita, you weren't a fan of Cabaye before he got injured and he is overrated, Debuchy is unproven in this lge ditto Remy, and that's if he signs. Cisse has been poor this season after a decent start, Taylor isn't good enough to be in a top 6 team and Colo wants to leave.

We are around the top 10 mark, not top 6 though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 14, 2013, 03:35:16 AM
I really think Anita is v v good like I said before he has been really impressive now that he's get used to the league.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,92790.300.html

Some suggestions to how we would/should set up almost everybody would have him in.

Agree tiote is a liability and do think cabaye is really overrated but with Anita/tiote behind him is imagine hed create.ot to hba/remy

I think we just got to look at things in perspective. If EVerton had

Distin (Taylor)
Hibbert (Ryan Taylor )
Gibson (gosling)
Neville (tiote)
Pienarr (cabaye)
Jagielka for half of season (colocini)
Howard for a big part (Krul)
Simpson (seamus Coleman)
Fellani (Ben arfa)

Tried to say similar in terms of importance of injured players. Would they really be doing any better than we are now. Now let's say they had to play in Europe and often 2 games in 4 days. I think weve been really unlucky, of course squad is very thin but which teams in the premiership would be doing a lot better than is right now with the same injury list and fixtures?

Man united
Chelsea
City

All of the rest would probably be there for there abouts. So far the window has been debuchy and remy for ba, 2 young players fitting in with the seemingly French backbone of the team in place of a really greedy guy who seemingly hurt moral regularly. If we can hold on to colocini and get sissoko who we are being linked with and maybe pinch a centre half then is be v happy. Losing colo and not replacing him would be crazy bad though. Guy is immense


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on January 14, 2013, 08:15:10 AM
At least 4 of those players won't be up for the relegation battle and will be looking for moves if you drop into the championship. With their talent they should not even be in the bottom half of the league :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 14, 2013, 07:09:29 PM
Joey Barton has just tweeted Loic Remy is joining QPR instead of Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 14, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
QPR next time to go into administration?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on January 14, 2013, 08:39:02 PM
Having a medical at QPR according to sky sports news


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 14, 2013, 09:50:02 PM
Joey Barton has just tweeted Loic Remy is joining QPR instead of Newcastle.

He loves a Twitter rant that boy, going off it at Dietmar Hamann too earlier.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 14, 2013, 09:59:18 PM
Joey Barton has just tweeted Loic Remy is joining QPR instead of Newcastle.

He loves a Twitter rant that boy, going off it at Dietmar Hamann too earlier.

yeh

Joseph Barton

@Joey7Barton
14 Jan 13
@DietmarHamann champions leagues medals don't make ur wife or kids respect u. Ur life like a car crash mate. Sort ur own house out!
 Didi Hamann

@DietmarHamann
@Joey7Barton The medals won't make my kids respect me but im not prepared to punch a child in the face in McDonald's for them to respect me


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 14, 2013, 10:03:35 PM
He must have deleted that one since and there are just a load from Barton ranting back at him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 16, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Tim Krul the next rat leaving the sinking ship?

#goingdown


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 16, 2013, 03:48:02 PM
Tim Krul the next rat leaving the sinking ship?

#goingdown

Seems a bit ott since all I can find is AC Milan linked with him ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 16, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
Tim Krul the next rat leaving the sinking ship?

#goingdown

Seems a bit ott since all I can find is AC Milan linked with him ?

Heard a rumour he's unhappy and looking to leave.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on January 16, 2013, 03:51:31 PM
Why would Remy choose QPR over Newcastle. Location or Harry's influence are the only reasons I can think of.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 16, 2013, 03:55:35 PM
Why would Remy choose QPR over Newcastle. Location or Harry's influence are the only reasons I can think of.

Money obv.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on January 16, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
Why would Remy choose QPR over Newcastle. Location or Harry's influence are the only reasons I can think of.

Money obv.
Redknapp was complaining about the wage bill of the players at QPR. I would have imagined he would get more at Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: donttiltboy on January 16, 2013, 05:25:55 PM
heard hes on 90k a week at qpr? surely wouldn't of got that at Newcastle?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 16, 2013, 05:57:29 PM
Why would Remy choose QPR over Newcastle. Location or Harry's influence are the only reasons I can think of.

Money obv.
Redknapp was complaining about the wage bill of the players at QPR. I would have imagined he would get more at Newcastle.

Erm no.

Harry said bosingwa earns more at qpr than any spurs player.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 16, 2013, 06:46:55 PM
if Tim Krul went to AC Milan then congratulations and good luck for him. We would get a good fee and he would move on to a bigger and better football club.

Remy choosing QPR is just ridiculous and anti railing them for the rest of the season, definitely don't want him when they go down too. Would prefer they rotted together.

Football in 2013 is so ugly.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: smashedagain on January 16, 2013, 07:51:15 PM
Why would Remy choose QPR over Newcastle. Location or Harry's influence are the only reasons I can think of.

Money obv.
Redknapp was complaining about the wage bill of the players at QPR. I would have imagined he would get more at Newcastle.

Erm no.

Harry said bosingwa earns more at qpr than any spurs player.
wow really. Despite what Fergie says Newcastle must be a bigger club than QPR when trying to attract players. I do admit to being a Rednapp fan tho


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 16, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
Why would Remy choose QPR over Newcastle. Location or Harry's influence are the only reasons I can think of.

Money obv.
Redknapp was complaining about the wage bill of the players at QPR. I would have imagined he would get more at Newcastle.

Erm no.

Harry said bosingwa earns more at qpr than any spurs player.
wow really. Despite what Fergie says Newcastle must be a bigger club than QPR when trying to attract players. I do admit to being a Rednapp fan tho

Newcastle making a point though these days of not paying over the odds for players and to not pay them silly wages.

Contrast to QPR who if this doesn't work out for them are in all sorts of trouble if they get relegated.

I do find a player choosing to join the club currently at the bottom of the league baffling. Can only assume it's for the money.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 16, 2013, 09:16:32 PM
Mike Ashley being shrewd as again! Swerves the £8m price tag - QPR go down - gets him for £4m - ez game


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 16, 2013, 09:23:33 PM
Would we still want him at that point?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 16, 2013, 09:25:03 PM
Mike Ashley being shrewd as again! Swerves the £8m price tag - QPR go down - gets him for £4m - ez game

He won't fancy joining the Toon in the Championship.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 16, 2013, 09:29:31 PM
Mike Ashley being shrewd as again! Swerves the £8m price tag - QPR go down - gets him for £4m - ez game

He won't fancy joining the Toon in the Championship.

 ;D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2013, 01:44:55 AM
Mike Ashley being shrewd as again! Swerves the £8m price tag - QPR go down - gets him for £4m - ez game

He won't fancy joining the Toon in the Championship.

Ok lets bet on it :)

5/1 on bf to go down, will lay you £100 so I owe you £500 if we go down ?

Confirm to book.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 17, 2013, 08:00:56 AM
Mike Ashley being shrewd as again! Swerves the £8m price tag - QPR go down - gets him for £4m - ez game

He won't fancy joining the Toon in the Championship.

Ok lets bet on it :)

5/1 on bf to go down, will lay you £100 so I owe you £500 if we go down ?

Confirm to book.

Some of us took 12/1 already but tyvm for the offer


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 17, 2013, 01:02:15 PM
Mike Ashley being shrewd as again! Swerves the £8m price tag - QPR go down - gets him for £4m - ez game

He won't fancy joining the Toon in the Championship.

Ok lets bet on it :)

5/1 on bf to go down, will lay you £100 so I owe you £500 if we go down ?

Confirm to book.

Just teasing mate.

When you support a team as shite as QPR, making fun of other team's plights is the only fun you get from football.

I don't really think there's much chance you go down. (Doesn't stop me hoping though)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2013, 04:13:43 PM
Mike Ashley being shrewd as again! Swerves the £8m price tag - QPR go down - gets him for £4m - ez game

He won't fancy joining the Toon in the Championship.

Ok lets bet on it :)

5/1 on bf to go down, will lay you £100 so I owe you £500 if we go down ?

Confirm to book.

Just teasing mate.

When you support a team as shite as QPR, making fun of other team's plights is the only fun you get from football.

I don't really think there's much chance you go down. (Doesn't stop me hoping though)

Ye nps, was just putting it out there.

Obv you should want us to go down, I see our last away game is at your place, hoping we're fine by then.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 19, 2013, 05:07:42 PM
In b4 all the haters, absolute joke 2nd half performance, didn't expect us to lose today and if we get beat off Villa then could well be gg.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 19, 2013, 05:20:50 PM
Those substitutions were absolutely baffling. WTF was Pardew playing at? Seems to have lost the plot to me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 19, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
I come in peace

Realistically, what does Pardew need to do in the remaining transfer window?

What is the view on the Pardew 8 year contract now?

How much of this is injuries and how much of this is tactical problems?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 19, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
Today was tactical problems. We were looking decent at 1-0 and he essentially replaces our entire midfield and sets out to defend a 1-0 lead. Against Reading.

Hopefully that 8 year contract has some get out clause for the club...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 19, 2013, 05:36:37 PM
Today was tactical problems. We were looking decent at 1-0 and he essentially replaces our entire midfield and sets out to defend a 1-0 lead. Against Reading.

Hopefully that 8 year contract has some get out clause for the club...

I can't read the white charles, any other colour ok.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 19, 2013, 05:40:14 PM
i didnt see the game, but i guess  Cabaye got taken off after 1 hour or something? he has been out for 3 months or so and first game back so probably why.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 19, 2013, 05:40:25 PM
Hmm. I suppose black is acceptable in this thread. Was going for the black and white theme on this one :)

Repeated:

Today was tactical problems. We were looking decent at 1-0 and he essentially replaces our entire midfield and sets out to defend a 1-0 lead. Against Reading.

Hopefully that 8 year contract has some get out clause for the club...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 19, 2013, 05:43:52 PM
You playing gala tonight cf?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 19, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
i didnt see the game, but i guess  Cabaye got taken off after 1 hour or something? he has been out for 3 months or so and first game back so probably why.

Marveaux off for Perch at 65.

Cabaye off for Bigirimana at 75

Anita off for Obertan at 80.

I can understand taking Cabaye off for fitness reasons but if you're going to do that then don't take Marveaux off first. We were generally looking quite positive and there was some good stuff there. Then he goes and completely changes it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 19, 2013, 05:44:40 PM
You playing gala tonight cf?

nah. I would have done if it was a 1-dayer. Too much effort for 2 days.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 20, 2013, 02:03:02 AM
I come in peace

Realistically, what does Pardew need to do in the remaining transfer window?

What is the view on the Pardew 8 year contract now?

How much of this is injuries and how much of this is tactical problems?

We have to bring in a cb, 2 if Colo leaves and a striker.

The view when he got the contract was meh even Ashley can't be that stupid he'd not have clauses in it,  now it's meh surely Ashley can't be stupid enough to not put any clauses in.

In the 2nd half today we were absolutely horrendous and the blame has to lie at Pardews door there, fact is, as I think I may've already said, we were really lucky last year with literally everything going our way whereas this year has been the opposite. Hopefully that won't result in relegation but after today's showing lets just say I'm glad Keith didn't take that bet.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on January 20, 2013, 03:30:51 AM
Going to be an interesting battle at the bottom. However, I don't think you will be down there for too long.

I do wonder though who will be going down, because everyone in the battle can show a great deal on a good day and QPR and Reading have had a decent bit of form recently.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 20, 2013, 08:46:06 AM
finally, i dont have to read 10 status' on facebook every saturday calling me an SMB


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 20, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
finally, i dont have to read 10 status' on facebook every saturday calling me an SMB

What is an SMB?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on January 20, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
finally, i dont have to read 10 status' on facebook every saturday calling me an SMB

What is an SMB?

Think it refers to a football forum of some repute in those parts - Sunderland Message Board.

Go the, err, Mackems.

The top thread today is "Pardew Sacked", & it runs to 13 pages of how much they all like Mr Pardew, & wish him well.


http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=756565


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 20, 2013, 05:39:40 PM
Sad Mackem Barstewards.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 23, 2013, 10:50:39 AM
viva le france


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 23, 2013, 12:33:34 PM
Newcastle's new arrival Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa is targeting a top-six finish and eventually a Premier League winners' medal after becoming the Magpies' second French signing of the January transfer window.

"I think with the players we have got on board and the manager and his ideas, we can definitely close the gap, get in the top six and, in the long term, why not challenge for the title," he says.

Deary me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 23, 2013, 12:36:28 PM
Pleno must be his agent


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 24, 2013, 03:13:22 AM
viva le france

dddddddddddddddddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeecent.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2013, 02:42:21 PM
Jimmy Kebe @JKebe tweets he is on his way to Newcastle to sign a 4 year contract


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 24, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
Jimmy Kebe @JKebe tweets he is on his way to Newcastle to sign a 4 year contract

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/24/3697297/breaking-news-reading-winger-jimmy-kebe-claims-newcastle

[  ] Devvd it was him taking the piss
[X] Had to Google to make sure he was who I thought he was.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 24, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
Jimmy Kebe @JKebe tweets he is on his way to Newcastle to sign a 4 year contract

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/24/3697297/breaking-news-reading-winger-jimmy-kebe-claims-newcastle

[  ] Devvd it was him taking the piss
[X] Had to Google to make sure he was who I thought he was.

[ x ] owned newcastle last weekend setting up both goals
[ x ] short memory


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 24, 2013, 04:33:59 PM
Jimmy Kebe @JKebe tweets he is on his way to Newcastle to sign a 4 year contract

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/24/3697297/breaking-news-reading-winger-jimmy-kebe-claims-newcastle

[  ] Devvd it was him taking the piss
[X] Had to Google to make sure he was who I thought he was.

[ x ] owned newcastle last weekend setting up both goals
[ x ] short memory

[  ] Short memory
[X] 24 tabling and not that focused on who setup the goals against us.

Not that hard to own a team playing absolutely shit, we'd be buying a lot of average players if that was how we picked our new signings.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on January 25, 2013, 12:44:23 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-21194258


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on January 25, 2013, 01:32:22 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-21194258

He has been arrested more times than he has scored a professional league goal.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 25, 2013, 10:40:45 PM
How can he not be sacked, it's an absolute joke and beyond disgraceful.

He had a go at the fans as well for booing after the Reading loss, what a complete *****.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 25, 2013, 11:10:26 PM
               Krul

Debuchy Mbwai Collocini Santon

             Tiote  Sissoko

                 Cabaye     
HBA                             Goufran
                  Cisse


Harper
Steven Taylor
Haidara
Jonas
Anita
Marveux
Obertan
Perch
Ryan Taylor
Bigimirina
Williamson
Sammy Ameobi
Gosling


DEPTH!

legoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 25, 2013, 11:14:20 PM
               Krul

Debuchy Mbwai Collocini Santon

             Tiote  Sissoko

                 Cabaye     
HBA                             Goufran
                  Cisse


Harper
Steven Taylor
Haidara
Jonas
Anita
Marveux
Obertan
Perch
Ryan Taylor
Bigimirina
Williamson
Sammy Ameobi
Gosling


DEPTH!

legoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Pleno's line up changes more often than I change my pants.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 25, 2013, 11:35:14 PM
Coloccini news bigger than any of the signings, hugeeeee.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 25, 2013, 11:58:56 PM
Coloccini news bigger than any of the signings, hugeeeee.

by an absolute mile


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Karabiner on January 26, 2013, 06:33:57 PM
Nouveau-chateau Uni ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 29, 2013, 11:14:20 AM
Looking forward to tonight!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: claypole on January 29, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
In Alan De-Paru we trust.....it'll be like watching Allo Allo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 29, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
We're absolutely destroying them here.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 29, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
Sissoko is a monster. Real presence in there.

early days but £2.2m looks good business


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 29, 2013, 08:41:50 PM
HBA to come into this? wow.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 29, 2013, 09:33:03 PM
Pretty sure Pardew uses a random number generator for his subs.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 29, 2013, 09:53:19 PM
Sublime first half. Shambolic second half.

Rapidly losing faith in Pardew. Can't help thinking we won that game despite him rather than because of him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 29, 2013, 09:56:01 PM
Huge hold, King Pardew oioiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: claypole on January 29, 2013, 09:58:48 PM
Win is precious imo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 29, 2013, 09:59:43 PM
Sissoko is a monster. Real presence in there.

early days but £2.2m looks good business


Very good debut, promising.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 29, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
baffling from pardew. great 1st half performance from all though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 02, 2013, 05:10:19 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Freerolling Sissoko already, incred.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on February 02, 2013, 05:12:35 PM
What a game!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 02, 2013, 07:28:23 PM
Tres bien.

Really looking good. James perch so ridiculously underrated, let everybody else tick today. Our most
Expensive signing didn't get on yet and hba/tiote to come back.

We need a striker in summer and we could be v v good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on February 03, 2013, 05:27:22 PM
Sissoko tho! £1.8m or so. Wp Pardew


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 03, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
Sissoko tho! £1.8m or so. Wp Graham Carr

 :P


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Post by: toddswain on February 03, 2013, 05:32:16 PM
Ha well yea there is that :)


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Post by: smashedagain on February 04, 2013, 09:27:08 AM
Tres bien.

Really looking good. James perch so ridiculously underrated, let everybody else tick today. Our most
Expensive signing didn't get on yet and hba/tiote to come back.

We need a striker in summer and we could be v v good.
ha ha the swings. Love your passion when you are winning. How good is v v good. The club is big enough to be competing in Europe.  Spurs game will be a great game for neutrals and be a good yard stick to measure against


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Post by: pleno1 on February 04, 2013, 09:40:05 AM
we have potential to be a regular fixture in the top 6.


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Post by: smashedagain on February 04, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
United, city & Chelsea seem a million miles above the rest but joining Arsenal, Spurs, Everton & Liverpool looks realistic.


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Post by: pleno1 on February 04, 2013, 11:51:40 AM
I wouldn't say the current Chelsea team looks better than Liverpool/Spurs.

We accelerated 5 transfers this transfer window that Ashley would never have done previously. But it will hopefulyl pay off. We really need a $10m striker in Summer though.


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Post by: 77dave on February 04, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
I wouldn't say the current Chelsea team looks better than Liverpool/Spurs.

We accelerated 5 transfers this transfer window that Ashley would never have done previously. But it will hopefulyl pay off. We really need a $10m striker in Summer though.

Whats the chance of that player being Andy Carroll?


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Post by: pleno1 on February 04, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
I'd like it, although I think in our formation:



              tiote/anita   cabaye


hba                 sissoko           goufran


                       striker


he needs to be good on the floor too and also have pace, hard to find though, of course.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on February 04, 2013, 04:10:23 PM
I'd be happy to have Carroll back.


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Post by: pleno1 on February 04, 2013, 04:13:10 PM
i really like him too, but he wouldn't fit in the current shape and Ben Arfa definitely isn't suitable for 4-4-2.

But having good depth and options is good.


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Post by: Cf on February 04, 2013, 07:23:29 PM
I wouldn't say the current Chelsea team looks better than Liverpool/Spurs.

We accelerated 5 transfers this transfer window that Ashley would never have done previously. But it will hopefulyl pay off. We really need a $10m striker in Summer though.

The good thing though is that although we got 5 players in we didn't pay silly money for them. If Sissoko carries on the way he's started he'll be worth more than the combined fees before long!


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Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 04, 2013, 07:25:16 PM
no cisse in that line up paddy?


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Post by: Cf on February 04, 2013, 07:26:09 PM
no cisse in that line up paddy?

Not based on this season's form...

Although his link up play with Sissoko has seemed good. He needs to remember how to put the ball in the back of the net though.


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Post by: mondatoo on February 21, 2013, 08:21:19 PM
Great result obv.

Chance of a sweat hopefully with us being at home for the 2nd leg of the next round, gettttttttt.


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Post by: pleno1 on February 22, 2013, 10:45:35 AM
whens the draw?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on February 22, 2013, 11:45:45 AM
A two-legged tie against Russian club Anzi Makhachkala awaits after they drew 1-1 in Germany, prevailing 4-2 on aggregate.

We are scheduled to play in Russia Thursday March 7th and then back at SJP on Thursday March 14th.


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Post by: Cf on March 17, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
Horrific challenge in todays game. Seeing as the ref "didn't see it" in the game means the FA can take action?


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Post by: kinboshi on March 17, 2013, 10:33:23 PM
Should have been a red, and the FA taking action won't help Newcastle. Was handball in the build up to Wigan's winner as well. Certainly didn't get the rub of the green today.


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Post by: mondatoo on March 18, 2013, 11:31:17 PM
So I read Dave Whelan saying it's not reckless, yeah ok blah blah talk complete bullshit to back your own players, absolute waste of time talking about football with these jokers.

But, then I watch his interview:

"I hope he's fit to play next week"

Is that some sort of sick joke ?

Also, taking from NUFC.com

"I am not going to criticise Norman Deeley - these things happen in football. He came over the ball, but he didn't do it with the aim of breaking my leg."

That'll be the same Dave Whelan who told the Lancashire Telegraph in May 2010 that:

"Norman Deeley came right over the ball. Today he would have been sent off and banned for a long time. He came six inches over the ball, he came for me not the ball."

Whilst it would put a lot of people in the press out of business, I wish they'd just do away with all these post match interviews as it's just a complete waste of time, massively insulting, and just adds to the lack of any kind of integrity in football.


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Post by: Cf on March 19, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
WTF FA?

I'm pretty sure the ref was quoted as saying he didn't see it.

"In the case of McManaman, it has been confirmed that at least one of the match officials saw the coming together, though not the full extent of the challenge. In these circumstances retrospective action cannot be taken."

What bullshit is this?

I understand not wanting to over-rule referees but

1) They say even if it wasn't seen properly. Surely that's fine? Ref wasn't in a position to make a judgement. Hardly over-ruling.

2) They say ANY of the officials? Surely 99.999% of incidents will be seen by one of the officials in some capacity.

They're basically saying "As long as someone was looking in the right general direction we won't do anything. Furthermore it is fine to tackle players jumping through the air studs first."


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Post by: Cf on March 19, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
Oh and surely the ref/linesman (whoever they judge to have saw the incident) should be sacked for being a danger to players. Seeing as the FA are acknowledging that they saw the incident.


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Post by: david3103 on March 19, 2013, 10:21:46 PM
There is precedent for acting even if the incident was seen. Ben Thatcher got a ban despite having been booked at the time

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh17rw_ben-thatcher-elbow-on-pedro-mendes_shortfilms#.UUjiGxyePoI


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Post by: Cf on March 19, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
And apart from anything else... surely when you stud someone in the knee you stop and check they're ok? I mean how can you not know what you've just done?


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Post by: mulhuzz on March 30, 2013, 05:34:03 PM
We are so shit.


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Post by: mondatoo on March 30, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
I'm thinking we are fine but Fulham's a huge game, if we lose so much added pressure on the derby, huge couple of weeks.

Pretty certain we'll be fine though.


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Post by: Cf on April 07, 2013, 05:48:46 PM
Huge huge win today. Totally deserved to win that game imo.


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Post by: TightEnd on April 07, 2013, 06:44:14 PM
great pic from a fan after the last minute winner

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHQ_nXyCUAMPzH5.png:large)


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Post by: mulhuzz on April 08, 2013, 09:45:40 AM
great pic from a fan after the last minute winner

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHQ_nXyCUAMPzH5.png:large)

he's turning into a talisman of sorts, isn't he. we sholuld be safe now, worry for the mackems though -- would hate to see them go down though, but regardless I think lol DiCanio.


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Post by: millidonk on April 11, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
A million that guy in the background is able to get his coat done up.


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Post by: mondatoo on April 12, 2013, 01:12:47 AM
Wonder if I'll live long enough to see in our 100 year anniversary of not having won a trophy.

Ggjmnbcdssstnomppvegbnkjncsty  ;frustrated; ;frustrated; ;frustrated; ;frustrated; ;frustrated; ;frustrated;

And yes, I know the best team won, but bit of luck on our side we would've won this tie.

Huge, huge sighhhhhhhhh.


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Post by: anthonyl on April 14, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
Why is Niall Quinn commentating? What a complete idiot.

Hope Newcastle score two 90th min goals to win to shut this most biased commentator in history up.


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Post by: Cf on April 14, 2013, 01:59:12 PM
This is so depressing.


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Post by: mondatoo on April 15, 2013, 05:09:56 PM
I'm obv not going to defend any of the trouble that was caused by Newcastle fans yesterday, but just for the sake of balance...

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/disabled-newcastle-united-fan-left-2596656

This happened right near were I was sitting, both sets of fans obv have a minority of scummy twats who are more interested in causing trouble than they actual result.

As for the game, disgraceful performance, not a good idea to save your worst performance of the season for the derby, not looking to make excuses, if the Cisse goal stood blah blah blah, we played terrible and deserved to lose.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 28, 2013, 04:01:02 AM
Surely they have to sack him now.


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Post by: mondatoo on April 29, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Interested in non Newcastle fans opinions on whether Pardew should be sacked or not ?

FWIW, I don't really have an opinion either way, pretty tired of the same ol' same ol', things are going bad lets sack the manager. At the same time though some of his post match interviews, more so when we win than when we lose, tilt me no end and he's made a lot of bad decisions this season, he got off very lightly with our abs joke performance versus Brighton in the cup for instance. Variance has very much evened out for him though this season.

For me the Derby result was worse than Liverpool, the Sunderland game was huge and they're dire yet we rolled over and let them trample all over us which is completely unacceptable in our biggest game of the season by a mile. Pretty pathetic excuse to blame playing in Europe as well, if you can't get the players up for that game then you simply aren't doing your job.


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Post by: TightEnd on April 29, 2013, 03:03:08 PM
I would think he would be very lucky to survive after the season they have had, even accepting all the injuries and the departure of Ba etc

I don't know enough about the relationship Pardew and Ashley to know if this is likely though

I know there's an 8 year contract, but what is the payoff on a sacking? It can't be 8 years pay surely?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 29, 2013, 03:10:43 PM
I would think he would be very lucky to survive after the season they have had, even accepting all the injuries and the departure of Ba etc

I don't know enough about the relationship Pardew and Ashley to know if this is likely though

I know there's an 8 year contract, but what is the payoff on a sacking? It can't be 8 years pay surely?

I don't think details of clauses have ever been released but surely they can't be that moronic for there not to have been some in an 8 year contract which was just absurd in the 1st place.


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Post by: horseplayer on April 29, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
1 full year pay off i believe



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Post by: mulhuzz on April 29, 2013, 03:13:35 PM
the pay off in the contract is, it's reasonably well reported, to be 1 year.

but we still won't sack him, unsure if we should, either. because then basically how can any manager ever take Ashley seriously.

next season is the real test, with the lack of euro competition we'd better be 10th+ or Pardew has to go then, imo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on April 29, 2013, 03:29:33 PM
Do you think signing so many French/overseas players has paid off?

What ins/outs are you expecting over the summer?

Will Carroll be back?


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Post by: mulhuzz on April 29, 2013, 03:59:54 PM
carroll almost certain not to come back. we won't pay more than he is worth and liverpool don't want to admit they massively overpaid for him by selling him back 'cheap' -- at least not to us, else it feels like they paid £20m to loan him from us.


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Post by: mondatoo on April 29, 2013, 04:14:40 PM
Do you think signing so many French/overseas players has paid off?

It certainly didn't in the Derby!

I don't think it's fair to judge any of the January signings just yet. It's fair to say the initial excitement surrounding Sissoko has died down a lot due to non performances since Chelsea/Villa. Gouffran looks like a bargain, but we paid a bowl for him, I think Debauchy will be v good and Haidara and Yanga-Mbiwa also look very promising.

What ins/outs are you expecting over the summer?

Ben Arfa seems to want away, as does Colo, and Krul is getting interest from Milan, if we lost all three it'd be a bit of a disaster, if them staying or going was determined by whether Pardew is at the club then I'd sack Pardew ainec. I'd happily sell Cabaye, Tiote and Cisse for decent prices, don't think anyone good will want Tiote though with his joke disciplinary record. Cisse is actually a pretty terrible overall footballer tbh, he does one thing reasonably well and that's snap shots, he doesn't know the offside rule, he can't pass, he can't score if he has more than 5 seconds to think about it, he could work as a 2nd striker but no way can he play as the leading man, he's not good enough. We desperately need to ship out players like Williamson and Gutierrez who've not been good enough for a long time if at all, definitely Williamson has never been good enough.

Will Carroll be back?

I'd have him back but don't expect to see it happen.


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Post by: mulhuzz on April 29, 2013, 04:21:33 PM
don't selllll cabaaaaaye imo.

Sissoko will be an absolute beast next year, no doubt about that. Agree with selling Cisse for reasonable price, but don't think we'd get one -- he will score us goals though, eventually he'll come good -- looking at his record in bundesliga it's inevitable.

Haidara and Yanga-Mbwia look absolutely immense, I think Haidara is a ready made Santon replacement (might even be better than him already).

inside line on Colo is that he wants to stay, has no interest in going anywhere that isn't San Lorenzo and they can't afford him yet so he's content to see out his contract. Krul may or may not leave though and that would make us look silly if he did because we've not offered Harps a new deal and got rid of Forster to Celtic for pennies recently(ish).

As for the interview with HBA I read, the reporter for Le Parisien basically set him up, he's a PSG fan and has been since a boy so ofc he said he'd love to play for them, but what wasn't widely reported is that he also said that it's a dream of his but his full focus is on Newcastle and repaying the club's faith in him. Not worried about HBA leaving at all.

Think we'll get a couple of strikers and a centre back in over the summer, maybe a new young GK as well.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DMorgan on April 29, 2013, 07:57:52 PM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?


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Post by: Cf on April 29, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
FWIW, I don't really have an opinion either way, pretty tired of the same ol' same ol', things are going bad lets sack the manager. At the same time though some of his post match interviews, more so when we win than when we lose, tilt me no end and he's made a lot of bad decisions this season, he got off very lightly with our abs joke performance versus Brighton in the cup for instance. Variance has very much evened out for him though this season.

His interviews really are tilting. These days he has taken to giving the excuses before the match has even started.

I think he is lucky this season that he has essentially been given a free pass due to last seasons result, europe, and injuries. Given those things I don't think the media have looked into it too deeply but the simple fact is that with what he has at his disposal we should be doing far better.

Even with the Liverpool game I think he got off lightly due to most of the focus being about the Suarez incident.

And I still think he makes his substitutions by pulling names out of a hat.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 29, 2013, 09:42:17 PM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?

Presumably to make it harder for other clubs to get him. Not that I think we need to be worrying about that.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 29, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?

Think Ashley was trying to make the point that it was all about the long term, really it means nothing though, just like most contracts in football.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on April 29, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
Nice of Sunderland to concede enough goals to allow Villa to move above Newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 30, 2013, 09:33:13 AM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?

Think Ashley was trying to make the point that it was all about the long term, really it means nothing though, just like most contracts in football.

yeah think this as well but he's put himself in a spot now where it looks like he's never serious if he sacks Pardew and how can a new manager believe a word he says if he says 'long term' then sacks the bloke a year (less?) later.

also fwiw I think it's an absolute million that we sack him in the summer, but if we did -- who we backing to replace him? how much better can we (realistically) do?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 30, 2013, 05:19:24 PM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?

Think Ashley was trying to make the point that it was all about the long term, really it means nothing though, just like most contracts in football.

yeah think this as well but he's put himself in a spot now where it looks like he's never serious if he sacks Pardew and how can a new manager believe a word he says if he says 'long term' then sacks the bloke a year (less?) later.

also fwiw I think it's an absolute million that we sack him in the summer, but if we did -- who we backing to replace him? how much better can we (realistically) do?

I agree with giving him another year, one thing which I worry might happen and will be beyond tilting is if he stays and we start next season poorly and he gets sacked after 4/5 games which you see happen pretty often in this type of spot.

That said even if we stay up I won't be sad to see him go but like you say, who good is going to want the job anyway, I'll take Mourinho, I guess.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on April 30, 2013, 06:26:15 PM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?

Think Ashley was trying to make the point that it was all about the long term, really it means nothing though, just like most contracts in football.

yeah think this as well but he's put himself in a spot now where it looks like he's never serious if he sacks Pardew and how can a new manager believe a word he says if he says 'long term' then sacks the bloke a year (less?) later.

also fwiw I think it's an absolute million that we sack him in the summer, but if we did -- who we backing to replace him? how much better can we (realistically) do?



i am sure there was plenty of chat at the time about how giving an 8 year contract was a great idea and the way forward

not saying on this thread btw just in general


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Baron on April 30, 2013, 07:45:51 PM
I've been hearing that we want Ben Arfa a fair bit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 30, 2013, 07:58:01 PM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?

Think Ashley was trying to make the point that it was all about the long term, really it means nothing though, just like most contracts in football.

yeah think this as well but he's put himself in a spot now where it looks like he's never serious if he sacks Pardew and how can a new manager believe a word he says if he says 'long term' then sacks the bloke a year (less?) later.

also fwiw I think it's an absolute million that we sack him in the summer, but if we did -- who we backing to replace him? how much better can we (realistically) do?

huh, anybody who isn't blind?

roberto martinez/laudrop/matteo/poyet/DICANIO :D/


I used to stand up for the guy, but this season he has proven he is tactically inept and a bottler.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 30, 2013, 08:50:54 PM
Purely as an interested observer, why would a premiership club offer a manager an 8 year contract?

Think Ashley was trying to make the point that it was all about the long term, really it means nothing though, just like most contracts in football.

yeah think this as well but he's put himself in a spot now where it looks like he's never serious if he sacks Pardew and how can a new manager believe a word he says if he says 'long term' then sacks the bloke a year (less?) later.

also fwiw I think it's an absolute million that we sack him in the summer, but if we did -- who we backing to replace him? how much better can we (realistically) do?

huh, anybody who isn't blind?

roberto martinez/laudrop/matteo/poyet/DICANIO :D/


I used to stand up for the guy, but this season he has proven he is tactically inept and a bottler.

Why would Martinez turn down Liverpool and then take the Newcastle job ?

Laudrop also probably wouldn't be interested.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
well hopefully Wigan will be in Championship, otherwise it will be us!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 30, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Mourinho?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on April 30, 2013, 10:50:22 PM
ml not a hope in hell



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 01, 2013, 11:51:30 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22377047

"Newcastle are 18th in the table, six points above the relegation zone."

That's quite an impressive feat.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 08, 2013, 02:13:33 AM
Huge result tonight and completely in our own hands now. I think one point will be enough now, but there is no excuse to lose to QPR.

If we don't beat QPR and end up down because Wigan pull another rabbit outta the hat trick then we fucking deserve it. Not easy to win games when in free fall and QPR were great in spells vs Arsenal but we need a win.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 12, 2013, 10:26:48 PM
Pardew says he doesn't care if we lose 4-0 to Arsenal and that he's thankful we're not in Europe next season.

But thank god we won today. Going down to the last day would have been awful.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 13, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
Pardew says he doesn't care if we lose 4-0 to Arsenal and that he's thankful we're not in Europe next season.

But thank god we won today. Going down to the last day would have been awful.

well, yeah, he said some strange things, misinterpreted through the relief of not having a last day sweat.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 21, 2013, 11:47:29 PM
Poyet to Newcastle?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 22, 2013, 10:58:29 AM
Poyet to Newcastle?

hope not. seems like he thinks he's bigger than the club anywhere he goes. bit arrogant and after his comments after getting beat by Palace I just thought 'grow up and take it on the chin like a man'.

fwiw, unless we could replace Pardew with Rafa (which we definitely can't, not a big enough club for him...) I would just keep Pardew.

Someone mentioned Tony Pulis in jest yesterday, I fucking hope not. Although that would be one way for Mr Ashley to increase sales at the club shop...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 23, 2013, 03:16:36 AM
Pardew is abs clueless tactically inept, soul destroying, nightmare at man managing, smarmy, hated by te fans, his players and everybody else.

I hate pardew more than MTTs.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 23, 2013, 11:22:17 AM
Word is he's staying :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 23, 2013, 12:01:40 PM
everyone who would get rid of Pardew, who would you get to replace them?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on June 16, 2013, 06:20:53 PM
Joe Kinnear appointed DoF at Newcastle and says that he will have final say on all transfer matters.

Pardew to be offski?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on June 16, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
WTF? :/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on June 16, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
WTF? :/

i believe its now patented as the "Ashley"

If you want your manager to resign, bring in the most rediculous DoF you can think of


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on June 16, 2013, 06:59:17 PM
wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff rofl.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on June 17, 2013, 01:23:04 AM
Wow!

The kinnear interview is so inflammatory! Gg paradew. Can't see how any manager will put up with the situation


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on June 17, 2013, 12:24:31 PM
Wow!

The kinnear interview is so inflammatory! Gg paradew. Can't see how any manager will put up with the situation

Hope so!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on June 17, 2013, 01:05:23 PM
what next?

Denis Wise as First Team Coach?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on June 17, 2013, 04:08:30 PM
 "We were third from bottom when I took over and we were 12th when I had my heart attack," added Kinnear.

"From there we got relegated. People were trying to implicate me when the club went down. That was a load of rubbish. I've never been a manager of a club that's been relegated [Luton were relegated while he was in charge in 2001]."

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Oh just listening to his Sky interview. Such rofl typical bullshit from someone with abs know clue what he's talking about and just insulting to suggest we are this dumb "I didn't realise before I went up there that Geordies are Geordies, they want people to work for them that are from that area"

Yeah Joe, that'll be why there's not one mention of Lee Clark in this thread in recent pages but a desire to see those well known Geordies Benitez/Laudrup etc to take the job.

What a complete moron!

Just got to hope that the lack of official announcements means he's just completely lost the plot and is delusional.

So com that he didn't even know Llambias' 1st name despite working for him for two years so had to say Mike instead of David Llambias, tbf to him he was pretty close.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on June 18, 2013, 06:28:54 AM
what next?

Denis Wise as First Team Coach?

Nope, poyet ;)

Biggest clown ever in English football.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: MahoganyVic on June 18, 2013, 08:12:34 AM
Listen to the podcast from talksport last night. Its absolutely incredible, he was either pissed or is mentally ill


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on June 18, 2013, 02:29:48 PM
Joke in here?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: c4ught on June 18, 2013, 04:14:13 PM
 ;gobsmacked; Getting the names wrong on Talksport surely some sort of joke? They were talking about him not remembering players names when listening on my way home from work before the interview!

Who has the final say, "We both do"! Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Alverton on June 18, 2013, 05:32:55 PM
Give him some credit though he does has more intelligence than all of us.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on June 18, 2013, 08:24:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_kebabs&oldid=560362592#France


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on June 19, 2013, 05:06:46 AM
apparantly a lot of newcastle fans will not for kinnear next season


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on June 19, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
gg "Lambayzee"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22965509



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on June 19, 2013, 11:15:47 AM
Odds on relegation? Might have a bet. Club seems to be in turmoil


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on June 19, 2013, 11:21:57 AM
What are they thinking?  Just absurd.  The guy comes in and starts shooting his mouth off having not been in a job for years and years.

And then they release a statement saying that Pardew will "report in to Joe".

If it wasn't for the 8 year contract Pardew would resign surely.  Can't blame him sticking around to collect the massive payoff, but he is being made to look a fool.

Did you see Kinnear talking about his achievements at Wimbledon?

"I sold Marcus Gayle, Leonhardsen, Micky Harford, John Hartson, Hans Segers, most of them were [bought in on] free transfers."

Well for starters, Hartson cost.............£7.5 million.  What a clueless mug.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: MahoganyVic on June 19, 2013, 01:16:54 PM
How did someone like Ashley ever succeed enough to become a multi-millionaire? He seems to have acted like a complete moron in almost everything he's done since taking over


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on June 19, 2013, 03:50:28 PM
And what then?  He can't seriously be considering putting Kinnear in charge of the 1st team on his own?  He's WAY past his sell by date.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on June 19, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
I think Ashley is underestimated...and despite initial popularity issues has turned the club around.

This is just business cunning. He knows he can't fire Pards without a huge payout...so instead he appoints someone that makes Pardews position untenable. He WANTS Pardew to resign.

Yeh so business cunning give the guy an 8 year deal. Shrewd


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on June 19, 2013, 06:41:34 PM
Cunning? It's nearly right!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on June 19, 2013, 09:41:59 PM
I think Ashley is underestimated...and despite initial popularity issues has turned the club around.

This is just business cunning. He knows he can't fire Pards without a huge payout...so instead he appoints someone that makes Pardews position untenable. He WANTS Pardew to resign.

Pardew on a one year pay-out.

Poyet will be at Newcastle and would take them down unless he gets given a top 4 budget.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on June 20, 2013, 10:02:16 AM
im no fan of Shearer, and its probably driven by others, but at least someone has spoken out!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22982306


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on June 20, 2013, 02:23:43 PM
Oliver Brown at the Telegraph seems not to like him...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10130915/Caveman-Joe-Kinnear-still-stuck-in-footballs-stone-age.html


Such a shame that the fans of this club get treated this way. Pardew may or may not be the man for the job, but he deserves better too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on June 23, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
I think Ashley is underestimated...and despite initial popularity issues has turned the club around.

This is just business cunning. He knows he can't fire Pards without a huge payout...so instead he appoints someone that makes Pardews position untenable. He WANTS Pardew to resign.

Pardew on a one year pay-out.

Poyet will be at Newcastle and would take them down unless he gets given a top 4 budget.

Now in the papers..


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on June 24, 2013, 07:54:32 AM
So is pardew just going to see out the transfer window through spite?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on July 18, 2013, 12:08:03 PM
This Papa Cisse thing is a bit weird.  I'm not a fan of Wonga.com, but for him to suddenly decide it's against his principles to play with a sponsor on the shirt who makes money from interest on loans is a bit hypocritical after a year playing with Virgin Money on his shirt, in the Barclays Premier League.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23347131


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on July 18, 2013, 12:09:09 PM
This joke is good though:

Initial fine £5000, rising to £45,795,896 if not paid by Sunday.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on July 18, 2013, 12:29:53 PM
This Papa Cisse thing is a bit weird.  I'm not a fan of Wonga.com, but for him to suddenly decide it's against his principles to play with a sponsor on the shirt who makes money from interest on loans is a bit hypocritical after a year playing with Virgin Money on his shirt, in the Barclays Premier League.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23347131

There is a world of difference between Virgin Money and Wonga though. I think most of us have principles that come into play at the extremes.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on July 18, 2013, 12:37:56 PM
Wonga are paying Newcastle £8m per year to be shirt sponsors. Its scary to think how much money companies like this must be making.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on July 18, 2013, 12:45:53 PM
This Papa Cisse thing is a bit weird.  I'm not a fan of Wonga.com, but for him to suddenly decide it's against his principles to play with a sponsor on the shirt who makes money from interest on loans is a bit hypocritical after a year playing with Virgin Money on his shirt, in the Barclays Premier League.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23347131

There is a world of difference between Virgin Money and Wonga though. I think most of us have principles that come into play at the extremes.

Like I say, I don't like how these pay-day loans companies work. But on the other hand, I don't think the Koran specifies an APR threshold.  Virgin Money certainly provide credit cards to people, and the interest rates and levels of credit handed out are often very high and encourage over-borrowing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on July 18, 2013, 01:18:44 PM
Perhaps Cisse can foregoe his wages to allow Newcastle to turn down the Wonga deal?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on July 18, 2013, 01:28:58 PM
Wonga are paying Newcastle £8m per year to be shirt sponsors. Its scary to think how much money companies like this must be making.

Least Bolton didn't decided to be shirt sponsored by one due to fan pressure.

The quicker they are outlawed the better.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 18, 2013, 01:32:37 PM
he degens in casino all the time btw


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on July 18, 2013, 01:44:28 PM
I was hoping the bump was because Pardew had done the off :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on July 23, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
he degens in casino all the time btw

Ha

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23424012


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Indestructable on July 26, 2013, 08:33:30 PM
All this talk of Newcastle players and religion v Wonga shirts, with the archbishop also having a go at Wonga. Newcastles first game of the season is against Man City and they now have Jesus playing for them.  ;angel;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on August 13, 2013, 06:30:09 PM
I see Remy signed for the season while in Ireland.

The singularly most exciting striker I've seen at Loftus Road since Sir Les. And you lot saw how good he was.

Super fast and very quick thinking plus skilful and has a great shot on him.

Reminded me of Thierry Henry.

Did go massively off the boil once relegation was pretty much confirmed, but for the first 4 to 6 matches he was brilliant.

Hope we get promoted and he comes back.





Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 13, 2013, 09:02:43 PM
Even if QPR get promoted he'll want to move to a bigger club assuming he gets noticed at Newcastle?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: outragous76 on August 19, 2013, 03:17:14 PM
so much love for this:

Newcastle have no appetite to sell Cabaye, but will not rule out the sale of any player following their experiences with Andy Carroll in 2011.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 19, 2013, 09:07:45 PM
Newcastle are hopeless.

Reckon they will bring in the clown poyet. He will be clueless there.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 19, 2013, 09:11:26 PM
Taylor wants crucifying. What a stupid thing to do in the last minute of stoppage time.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2013, 11:04:46 PM
Is it really acceptable that a player who is under contract can just be put down to "his heads not right" and doesn't have to play because a bigger club want to buy him, is that really professional ?

As things stand our season will mirror last year, looking forward to it immensely!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2013, 11:15:51 PM
Is there a worse substitutes bench in this league then Newcastle's ?

21 Elliot
36 Dummett
08 Anita
22 Marveaux
25 Obertan
23 Sh Ameobi
28 Sa Ameobi


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 19, 2013, 11:18:06 PM
You'd do well to find a back four as bad as yours too.

Luckily the 3 promoted clubs will see Newcastle safe but really should be challenging top 10. The result has probably done you a favour...if you lost 1-0 maybe no signings now you could up signing a few!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
You'd do well to find a back four as bad as yours too.

Luckily the 3 promoted clubs will see Newcastle safe but really should be challenging top 10. The result has probably done you a favour...if you lost 1-0 maybe no signings now you could up signing a few!

Pretty far off the mark there.

Our defence is actually pretty strong, just played shit tonight.

Debuchy is undoubtably a quality player.
Colo is proven class.
Yanga Mbiwa looks very promising.
Santon is better than a lot of other lb's in the league although went a bit off the boil last season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2013, 02:46:49 AM
Debuchy came wih huge expectations but has been catastrophic. He gets beaten way way too easy.

Colo is a hero, the best defender I've seen in black and white but looks error prone ATM.

Taylor is undoubtedly awful liability and people's perception of him being an attacking threat is a myth.

Mbwia got murdered easy tonight and will be interesting to see if he improves.

Santon is way better going forward than defensively.

Tiote is the worst defensive midfielder in the premiership on the last 12 months form, can't keep the ball and gives away needless fouls, liability.

Jonas simply woeful, should have sold 12 months ago.

Ben arfa is our best player a real threat but nobody gives him an opttion

Sissoko has a touch of a rapist, he's way above his league

Anita seems too weak although potential

Cisse worst striker in the premiership outside of the box

Tim Krul is v v good

Gouffran actually decent IMO.

Pardew clueless !!! Who makes a rash substitution when there's 5 seconds left of the half and you can go in and regorup. Absolute clown.

John carver / stone absolute amateurs.

We need to spend and we need to spend very very quick.

There will be a tonne of pressure vs west ham and the fans will be kicking off I'd be betting against us.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on August 20, 2013, 03:08:42 AM
Would you say you are going to be in a relegation scrap? I ask with hope. :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2013, 03:32:40 AM
Would you say you are going to be in a relegation scrap? I ask with hope. :)

We have lots of very very bad players and a very bad manager. What might save us is that Holloway and Bruce are worse and both of their teams are worse too. Dont know much about Cardiff yet though.

As it stands, things definitely look bleak.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 20, 2013, 09:58:25 AM
You'd do well to find a back four as bad as yours too.

Luckily the 3 promoted clubs will see Newcastle safe but really should be challenging top 10. The result has probably done you a favour...if you lost 1-0 maybe no signings now you could up signing a few!

Pretty far off the mark there.

Our defence is actually pretty strong, just played shit tonight.

Debuchy is undoubtably a quality player.
Colo is proven class.
Yanga Mbiwa looks very promising.
Santon is better than a lot of other lb's in the league although went a bit off the boil last season.

Nope, don't think I am far off the mark.

Awful full backs at defending.

Mbiwa looks like a donkey, Taylor is a liability. Colo is obv decent though. Not even any kind of cover at full back either.

I'd say only palarse, hull and Sunderland have weaker back fours.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2013, 12:34:46 PM
Colo also very good football brain but liability in a weak team Oi.

In Chelseas team he'd be outrageous.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Acidmouse on August 20, 2013, 01:08:38 PM
should never have offloaded nolan and barton :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 20, 2013, 01:25:54 PM
You'd do well to find a back four as bad as yours too.

Luckily the 3 promoted clubs will see Newcastle safe but really should be challenging top 10. The result has probably done you a favour...if you lost 1-0 maybe no signings now you could up signing a few!

Pretty far off the mark there.

Our defence is actually pretty strong, just played shit tonight.

Debuchy is undoubtably a quality player.
Colo is proven class.
Yanga Mbiwa looks very promising.
Santon is better than a lot of other lb's in the league although went a bit off the boil last season.

Nope, don't think I am far off the mark.

Awful full backs at defending.

Mbiwa looks like a donkey, Taylor is a liability. Colo is obv decent though. Not even any kind of cover at full back either.

I'd say only palarse, hull and Sunderland have weaker back fours.

How often do you watch Newcastle play ?

Mbiwa gets ripped a new one off Jesus Navas, that means he's a donkey ? He's young and has looked really good.

Taylor shouldn't be in the team.

The full backs aren't awful, Debuchy is yet to settle but that's pretty std, once he gets used to the League compared to France I'm confident he'll be very good. Santon isn't great defensively but as an all round player again is nowhere near awful, that said I'd buy a knew LB and play him LM as Gutierrez is actually awful.

Looking at the sides that they fielded at the weekend I'd go ahead and say we are also as good if not better defensively (inc Krul who's kinda relevant) than : Villa, Stoke, Norwich, Fulham, West Brom, Southampton, West Ham and Cardiff. Half of them, maybe more, have better squads than us though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 20, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
Also who hacked Pads' account ?

Or has a couple of months as a poker pro already took all that positivity out of you :P


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 20, 2013, 01:28:15 PM
Colo also very good football brain but liability in a weak team Oi.

In Chelseas team he'd be outrageous.

This is a pretty bizarre comment, he's been an absolute boss the last two years+, and the team in front of him hasn't changed that much ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 20, 2013, 02:03:30 PM
He was t great last season. He has lost a yard f pace that was so important for him. He is not good in the Air at all either.

Last season there was around 5-10 goals which the old colo would never had let happen.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on August 20, 2013, 03:40:33 PM
Holloway and Bruce are bad managers? Pretty harsh comments. The fact that both are relatively experienced will be a huge boost to our chances, as Pardew will be to yours.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 28, 2013, 11:01:50 PM
Pretty clear to see that we have a lot of players who aren't anywhere near the level needed to be successful at a top level club. Of course the odd potential banana skin tie means the games aren't pretty but this is the 7th, 8th or even more time that the same second string players have played against weak opposition and showed nothing, they clearly aren't good enough.

We were really lucky tonight, and a man under as much pressure as Pardew I'm surprised he took such a big risk as we could very easily have lost tonight.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on August 28, 2013, 11:04:54 PM
Pretty clear to see that we have a lot of players who aren't anywhere near the level needed to be successful at a top level club. Of course the odd potential banana skin tie means the games aren't pretty but this is the 7th, 8th or even more time that the same second string players have played against weak opposition and showed nothing, they clearly aren't good enough.

We were really lucky tonight, and a man under as much pressure as Pardew I'm surprised he took such a big risk as we could very easily have lost tonight.

Are you pleased by the massive cup draw?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Horneris on August 29, 2013, 01:25:59 AM
YOUR GONA GET YOUR FUCKING HEADS KICKED IN


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 29, 2013, 01:58:20 PM
Instead of buying new players of rather they used the money to get rid of Pardew and get in a new manager.

I've not read his post game comments from yesterday. Instead to imagine what they are.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 29, 2013, 02:06:32 PM
Pretty clear to see that we have a lot of players who aren't anywhere near the level needed to be successful at a top level club. Of course the odd potential banana skin tie means the games aren't pretty but this is the 7th, 8th or even more time that the same second string players have played against weak opposition and showed nothing, they clearly aren't good enough.

We were really lucky tonight, and a man under as much pressure as Pardew I'm surprised he took such a big risk as we could very easily have lost tonight.

Are you pleased by the massive cup draw?



Very.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 29, 2013, 06:15:04 PM
Pretty clear to see that we have a lot of players who aren't anywhere near the level needed to be successful at a top level club. Of course the odd potential banana skin tie means the games aren't pretty but this is the 7th, 8th or even more time that the same second string players have played against weak opposition and showed nothing, they clearly aren't good enough.

We were really lucky tonight, and a man under as much pressure as Pardew I'm surprised he took such a big risk as we could very easily have lost tonight.

Newcastle's strength in depth is embarrassing. Not one player who started last night who would get into anyones top 10 sides, that really was a big risk when a nice win was needed. Surely a cup like this is what a team like Newcastle should be trying to win?? Game V Leeds should be decent though, the same team as last night will get turned over easy. Looks like there are no leaders / passion each time you play (bar Taylor, Shoala).

Would be nice to see you bring in about 5 players this week but I can't see that happening?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 29, 2013, 06:19:37 PM
Pretty clear to see that we have a lot of players who aren't anywhere near the level needed to be successful at a top level club. Of course the odd potential banana skin tie means the games aren't pretty but this is the 7th, 8th or even more time that the same second string players have played against weak opposition and showed nothing, they clearly aren't good enough.

We were really lucky tonight, and a man under as much pressure as Pardew I'm surprised he took such a big risk as we could very easily have lost tonight.

Newcastle's strength in depth is embarrassing. Not one player who started last night who would get into anyones top 10 sides, that really was a big risk when a nice win was needed. Surely a cup like this is what a team like Newcastle should be trying to win?? Game V Leeds should be decent though, the same team as last night will get turned over easy. Looks like there are no leaders / passion each time you play (bar Taylor, Shoala).

Would be nice to see you bring in about 5 players this week but I can't see that happening?



In any team outside of the top 6 who in their reserve team would get into a top 10 starting 11?

Dummett is actually pretty promising
Yanga Mbiwa would play for most teams
Marveux giving a run of form would play in most teams or be a good squad player
Debuchy should get in a lot of teams
Vuckic is promising but has been injured alot

We just punted it up to 2 skillful strikers, its all about Pardew and his inept tactics


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 29, 2013, 06:21:01 PM
also think the team was wayyyyyyy good enough to beat the opposition and was a fine team to put out.

We definietely dont want any injuries and whats the point in having squad players if you dont use them?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 30, 2013, 12:03:37 AM


Yanga Mbiwa would play for most teams - one of the biggest donkeys ive seen
Marveux giving a run of form would play in most teams or be a good squad player - haha
Debuchy should get in a lot of teams - he is useless (so far), i thought he was good based on 1 game in the euros, but now after seeing him on tv for 5 or so games, and highlights he is a big liability (as is santon)


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At least Ant isn't the only one with tinted glasses on when it comes to their own team! Surely you can't think marveux and mbiwa would play in most teams?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on August 30, 2013, 12:21:06 AM


Yanga Mbiwa would play for most teams - one of the biggest donkeys ive seen
Marveux giving a run of form would play in most teams or be a good squad player - haha
Debuchy should get in a lot of teams - he is useless (so far), i thought he was good based on 1 game in the euros, but now after seeing him on tv for 5 or so games, and highlights he is a big liability (as is santon)



At least Ant isn't the only one with tinted glasses on when it comes to their own team! Surely you can't think marveux and mbiwa would play in most teams?
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Didn't you say that Will Buckley was better and was twice as prolific than Zaha last season?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 30, 2013, 12:40:50 AM


Yanga Mbiwa would play for most teams - one of the biggest donkeys ive seen
Marveux giving a run of form would play in most teams or be a good squad player - haha
Debuchy should get in a lot of teams - he is useless (so far), i thought he was good based on 1 game in the euros, but now after seeing him on tv for 5 or so games, and highlights he is a big liability (as is santon)



At least Ant isn't the only one with tinted glasses on when it comes to their own team! Surely you can't think marveux and mbiwa would play in most teams?
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Continental defenders are very similar. Colocinis first season he was similar to mbwia but was worse he grew as one of the best defenders in the prem. mbwia is very fast and a similar defender to colo. he was a captain at Montpellier and regularly in the team of the season. It will take him time to adjust to the premiership but graham Carr wouldn't pay 7m for a bad defender (we won't pay it for a striker and we didn't need a defender)

Marveaux is good. He is v good on the ball and really good technically as we'll as being quick. Like I said under pardew he will be bad because we play hoofball in teams like Norwich, Southampton and Swansea he would be very good.

Our problems is mainly our manager and the tactics he uses. Marveux is also a centre midfielder not a winger.

But going back to it mbwia, marveaux and debuchy would get in over 10 teams in the premiership.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 30, 2013, 12:42:45 AM
Debuchy came wih huge expectations but has been catastrophic. He gets beaten way way too easy.

Colo is a hero, the best defender I've seen in black and white but looks error prone ATM.

Taylor is undoubtedly awful liability and people's perception of him being an attacking threat is a myth.

Mbwia got murdered easy tonight and will be interesting to see if he improves.

Santon is way better going forward than defensively.

Tiote is the worst defensive midfielder in the premiership on the last 12 months form, can't keep the ball and gives away needless fouls, liability.

Jonas simply woeful, should have sold 12 months ago.

Ben arfa is our best player a real threat but nobody gives him an opttion

Sissoko has a touch of a rapist, he's way above his league

Anita seems too weak although potential

Cisse worst striker in the premiership outside of the box

Tim Krul is v v good

Gouffran actually decent IMO.

Pardew clueless !!! Who makes a rash substitution when there's 5 seconds left of the half and you can go in and regorup. Absolute clown.

John carver / stone absolute amateurs.

We need to spend and we need to spend very very quick.

There will be a tonne of pressure vs west ham and the fans will be kicking off I'd be betting against us.



About having the blinkers on. You must just read posts where I'm positive. I even state there about debuchy and mbwias start to their careers (note marveaux is one of the few players I leave out)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 30, 2013, 10:01:42 AM


Yanga Mbiwa would play for most teams - one of the biggest donkeys ive seen
Marveux giving a run of form would play in most teams or be a good squad player - haha
Debuchy should get in a lot of teams - he is useless (so far), i thought he was good based on 1 game in the euros, but now after seeing him on tv for 5 or so games, and highlights he is a big liability (as is santon)



At least Ant isn't the only one with tinted glasses on when it comes to their own team! Surely you can't think marveux and mbiwa would play in most teams?

Continental defenders are very similar. Colocinis first season he was similar to mbwia but was worse he grew as one of the best defenders in the prem. mbwia is very fast and a similar defender to colo. he was a captain at Montpellier and regularly in the team of the season. It will take him time to adjust to the premiership but graham Carr wouldn't pay 7m for a bad defender (we won't pay it for a striker and we didn't need a defender)

Marveaux is good. He is v good on the ball and really good technically as we'll as being quick. Like I said under pardew he will be bad because we play hoofball in teams like Norwich, Southampton and Swansea he would be very good.

Our problems is mainly our manager and the tactics he uses. Marveux is also a centre midfielder not a winger.

But going back to it mbwia, marveaux and debuchy would get in over 10 teams in the premiership.
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Maybe they will prove me wrong but for now I don't see signs of any quality there.

The same manager and tactics worked two years ago though. I just think there is a lack of passion. Someone like joey Barton and Michael Dawson signing would put everyone in their place IMO.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 02, 2013, 11:09:30 PM
Look forward to another relegation battle ahead, what a joke.

The people that run my club deserve everything they get, from the Chairman at the top to the Manager, despise the lot of them.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2013, 07:54:11 PM
Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be a Newcastle fan.

;mexicanwave;



(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c17/JCtheMessiah/618_tv_stars_in_their_eyes_matthew_.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
:(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kinboshi on September 30, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
I'm glad I'm not a full-time Newcastle fan.  Would be very hard work.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on October 05, 2013, 03:56:26 PM
I see Remy signed for the season while in Ireland.

The singularly most exciting striker I've seen at Loftus Road since Sir Les. And you lot saw how good he was.

Super fast and very quick thinking plus skilful and has a great shot on him.

Reminded me of Thierry Henry.

Did go massively off the boil once relegation was pretty much confirmed, but for the first 4 to 6 matches he was brilliant.

Hope we get promoted and he comes back.





Believe what I said about Remy yet?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 05, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
I see Remy signed for the season while in Ireland.

The singularly most exciting striker I've seen at Loftus Road since Sir Les. And you lot saw how good he was.

Super fast and very quick thinking plus skilful and has a great shot on him.

Reminded me of Thierry Henry.

Did go massively off the boil once relegation was pretty much confirmed, but for the first 4 to 6 matches he was brilliant.

Hope we get promoted and he comes back.





Believe what I said about Remy yet?

Wonderful business from us that there's no agreement in place for us to be able to sign him if we wish, marv.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on October 05, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
I see Remy signed for the season while in Ireland.

The singularly most exciting striker I've seen at Loftus Road since Sir Les. And you lot saw how good he was.

Super fast and very quick thinking plus skilful and has a great shot on him.

Reminded me of Thierry Henry.

Did go massively off the boil once relegation was pretty much confirmed, but for the first 4 to 6 matches he was brilliant.

Hope we get promoted and he comes back.





Believe what I said about Remy yet?

Wonderful business from us that there's no agreement in place for us to be able to sign him if we wish, marv.

Thank God you didn't.

To my eyes he's a £15 million player.

You'd have got him for less than half of that if you'd bought him outright.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 06, 2013, 12:26:36 PM
I'm going to sound like a complete idiot but I don't rate him as an all round footballer :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on October 06, 2013, 01:03:02 PM
I'm going to sound like a complete idiot but I don't rate him as an all round footballer :(

but you rate mbiwa, so at least this is consistent :P


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 27, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
Personally I honestly don't believe this is acceptable.

Pardew is a spineless man and and a spineless manager, nobody can defend this.

Last season our worst performance of the season was against our biggest rivals at home, this year he put a team out who once again decided to put in the worst performance of the season in the biggest game of the season. This imo isn't acceptable, this isn't me heart over head, the game against Sunderland genuinely was our worst performance of the season, ditto today. I see no reason why the players would bottle a derby they don't actually give a shit about so you have to blame the manager. Ashley's a twat who doesn't give a shit so he's fine but Pardew deserves to be sacked for today's performance alone, absolutely disgusting.

People don't understand what it means, I'm literally absolutely confirmed fukn busto, I decided today to go watch the match and have a drink today instead of buying food, that's how I roll, tmoro they won't give a fuck, I will!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 27, 2013, 10:33:14 PM
genuinely think we played good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on October 27, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Personally I honestly don't believe this is acceptable.

Pardew is a spineless man and and a spineless manager, nobody can defend this.

Last season our worst performance of the season was against our biggest rivals at home, this year he put a team out who once again decided to put in the worst performance of the season in the biggest game of the season. This imo isn't acceptable, this isn't me heart over head, the game against Sunderland genuinely was our worst performance of the season, ditto today. I see no reason why the players would bottle a derby they don't actually give a shit about so you have to blame the manager. Ashley's a twat who doesn't give a shit so he's fine but Pardew deserves to be sacked for today's performance alone, absolutely disgusting.

People don't understand what it means, I'm literally absolutely confirmed fukn busto, I decided today to go watch the match and have a drink today instead of buying food, that's how I roll, tmoro they won't give a fuck, I will!

I still love you ray even if pardew doesn't.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 28, 2013, 01:09:14 AM
genuinely think we played good.

really? you created fuck all against the worse defence in the devision. apart from shots from about 30 yards out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 28, 2013, 09:35:55 AM
Ive saw hundreds of people write about how poor we played yesterday but I think this is one of those things that you have to play to understand it properly.

For 50 minutes they ran through brick walls, asides from the first 5 minutes they didnt threaten the goal at all and we passed the ball pretty well. When 11 guys sit behind the ball and literally run through brick walls to stop you its very difficult. Every time one of our palyers had the ball they had 3 players around them. I was on the phone to my Dad at half time who was complaining and I told him dont worry Cattermole, Bardsley and the rest wont be able to go for another 15 minutes they will be fucked. Dossena was doing 70 yard overlaps every single time!

By 55 minutes we had scored, Cattermole who was breaking most stuff up was dead to his feet and was subbed, Bardsley could barely walk anymore and the rest of their team showed absolutely no class at all. At this point we were the only team threatening and anybody would have backed us to be the team who would go on to win. There was a bad decision and we reacted kinda slowly and they found a lucky break and the guy hits a strike good enough to win any game. From watching the game, absolutely confident we will be fine this season and they will do awfully, absolutely awfully.

Sky has to give MOTM to a winning sides player and Altidore got it. He was absolutely terrible, playing against Williamson and Dummett and he didnt have a shot on target or do anything except throw himself about abit. If Newcastle had won, they Tiote, Cabaye, Debuchy and whoever would have scored the winning goal would all have been fair enough shouts for MOTM.

Our players cannot prove that they "want it" more if we have more of the possession or are more in control, we cant do crunching tackles and constantly break play up as we were the ones behind and thus on the strong foot moving forward, we lacked creativity sure, but the front 8 at least showed enough hunger and passion and wanted it as much as Sunderland.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 28, 2013, 09:49:17 AM
We passed the ball pretty well ?

We didn't watch the same game then.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 28, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
We had 52% possesion against a team who manager makes them make the most ridiculous passing from the back in a team where we have 2 centre halfs who are bad on the ball-. Posession generally comes from the back and despite williamosn and dummet we had 52% of the ball.

We had 16 shots on goal to Sunderlands 8.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 28, 2013, 10:57:34 AM
when i say passing i dont mean defence splitting gerrard balls, i mean as a team kept the ball better than usual.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on October 28, 2013, 10:59:13 AM
please not the ray houghton line

"you never played the game so you would not understand"

two poor sides yesterday game could have ended in any one of 3 results


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 28, 2013, 11:09:51 AM
I mean its a local derby and players who havent played do struggle to understand why Ben Arfa cant just take them all on like he did against villa.

The atmosphere is so hostile the players are on a different level and as a guy watching from the outset Im sure you can appreciate that. But before every derby or big rival match Ive ever played I always go into the match thinking its fine im a great player I can just pass it about and play my game. Its really really not that simple and the whole occasion is overwhelming and players play on adrenalin. Like I said the Sunderland players were absolutely fucked after 50 minutes because of the way the game was,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24503990
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24350276

Last 2 games Cattermole played the full games. Im not sure if he got a knock or whatever, but try hard players like him really go that extra mile in derbys and they always struggle to maintain it for long periods of time.

Also we have to remember Newcastle are playing without a striker. We played Ben Arfa who is a creative midfielder as our lone striker.

Cisse played the second half and is so so woeful. How we can blame Pardew when Ashley didnt do enough in summer is probably not fair. Ive not been Pardews biggest fan, but over the last 3-4 games weve performed better without a recognised striker playing upfront. Maybe if we had MOTM Altidore in our team we would have won!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on October 28, 2013, 11:13:17 AM
You could blame Pardew as you still looked like a side of individuals rather than a team and he has been there long enough now so that should not be the case



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 28, 2013, 11:33:40 AM
again disagree.

santon-debuchy both v v suspect when first came to club both are playing very very good atm. They are reaching their potential and playing for the team.

Williamson and Dummett is THE worst partnership in the premiership, if any team ahd their first 3 choice centre defenders injured and their youngest squad player who is a left back playing centre half they would struggle. But Sunderland had 2 proper shots on target, so as a team we must have defended pretty well.

As a midfield I think Tiote had his best game in ages and Cabaye looked like a thread and kept his passes simpler for once, something which is his main weakness so he was playing more for the team.

Gouffran and Remy didnt do much but they wernt going on solo runs or doing anything that was against the team spirit.

Like I said before, football "fans" think a team isnt fighting, battling or playing for eachother if theyre not all getting yellow cards and throwing their face in front of the ball. I think we played decent as a team but lacked creativity and in a derby that is a common trait.

The one thing I would say is that Pardew didnt get the best out of HBA but that kind of game just isnt for him, but if he didnt play the fans would have been going wild.

One thing I dont condone is Newcastle banning all local press for the forseeable future, a ridiculous decision which may cause a lot of problems.

Main thing for Pardew now is to work on our attacking play without a striker or use a formation that allows Remy to play upfront and still accomodate HBA.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on October 28, 2013, 11:36:02 AM
making it sound like santon and debuchy were unknowns!

santon had plenty of experience for inter and debuchy was a french international

Ok they have now adapted (santon still very weak defensively for me but thats my opinion)



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on October 28, 2013, 11:45:45 AM

They have not banned all the Press, just three titles got the red card. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 29, 2013, 02:13:09 AM
if your playing against a team who have 11 men behind the ball after scoring in the 5th minute you should have more than 52% of the possession.

altidore getting MOTM was terrible, he grafted hard and through himself about but that was it. the whole team was knackered after 20 minutes and actually gave a lot of space to newcastle inside the sunderland half, we pressed well when the ball was in newcastle half, but when you brought it over the half way line we backed off and let you do what you liked.

how many of your shots were from inside the box? and again, how many of your shots were from inside 25 yards? i honestly cant remember you creating anything apart from the goal. Not saying we did, just saying you didnt.

unfortunatly we will still finish 19th this season because we are shocking. Dummet and Williamson is your 3rd choice defensive, unfortunatly for us, o'shea and cuellar is our first choice.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 29, 2013, 02:46:20 AM

They have not banned all the Press, just three titles got the red card. 

I said all local press which is basically is. The main local press.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2013, 03:37:29 PM
Against city mid week we were the better team and today a great 2-0 win against Chelsea. Our defence is really good atm, 2 clean sheets vs chelsea and city in 90 minutes. Our midfield is looking much better with Cabaye playing really well but we still lack a little up front. Remy played well today though so its not like we have nothing there.


Defence really solid atm, Santon and Debuchy playing very well and Mapou and Williamson did well. Collocini to replace Williamson, or Taylor and were starting to look good.

9th in the table now.


2 big signings in January Mike.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 02, 2013, 04:04:32 PM
It seems a big coincidence that Liverpool, Man City and now Chelsea have all come up here and all played pretty poorly, superb 2nd half performance.

Put a performance in the derby like anyone of those three games and we'd have walked it.

I struggled with celebrating the first goal knowing how much Pardew would be loving himself for doing his job correctly, cue cut to Pardew looking like smug twat.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 02, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
biggest thing is weve jsut lsot a derby and he said the win was for mike ashley not the fans.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 02, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
biggest thing is weve jsut lsot a derby and he said the win was for mike ashley not the fans.

I haven't watched his interview, I can't really criticise him for that though since I've said previously about how much the man is detestable when he spouts of all his bs cliches about the fans.

So out of love with the club right now, so much so that I woke up this morning and wondered what the early game was.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on November 02, 2013, 06:52:46 PM
I was gutted. At 3pm I thought to check when our game was and found out we were the early Sat KO. And then I read that we won. Gah!

Pardew still needs to go IMO.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 10, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
boooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on November 10, 2013, 02:16:28 PM
Quite how we have taken 7 pts from Liverpool, Chelsea, and Spurs I'm not so sure!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on November 10, 2013, 02:19:28 PM
I see Remy signed for the season while in Ireland.

The singularly most exciting striker I've seen at Loftus Road since Sir Les. And you lot saw how good he was.

Super fast and very quick thinking plus skilful and has a great shot on him.

Reminded me of Thierry Henry.

Did go massively off the boil once relegation was pretty much confirmed, but for the first 4 to 6 matches he was brilliant.

Hope we get promoted and he comes back.





Believe what I said about Remy yet?

Bumpage


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 10, 2013, 02:41:51 PM
I see Remy signed for the season while in Ireland.

The singularly most exciting striker I've seen at Loftus Road since Sir Les. And you lot saw how good he was.

Super fast and very quick thinking plus skilful and has a great shot on him.

Reminded me of Thierry Henry.

Did go massively off the boil once relegation was pretty much confirmed, but for the first 4 to 6 matches he was brilliant.

Hope we get promoted and he comes back.





Believe what I said about Remy yet?

Bumpage

Heard last week it's complicated but there is a clause involved.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on November 30, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
beyond impressed by our run, we would always sometimes win against Man United or Liverpool and then lose against WBA or Norwich so to beat Chelsea and then Tottenham away and then follow up with "standard" wins vs Norwich and WBA at home is huge.

Think a lot of our players in very good form. Watching Cabaye today i was so so impressed, i think he has cut the world cup balls out of his game and it helps us so much.

Gouffrans work rate is so good and hes a huge upgrade on Guttierez for what? 1m? Truly great business.

Tiote back to his best after an awful 12 months.

Even Shola is playing great.

Really hope we have a great month going forward.

Our bench today had

Cisse
Anita
Hatem ben Arfa
mbwia
Elliot
Sammy

pretty solid!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 01, 2013, 04:08:19 AM
Tough 3 games now, would be very happy with 4 points.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 07, 2013, 03:05:49 PM
weird that everybody is still saying our squad is weak


elliot, steven taylor, mbwia, dummet, ben arfa, marveux, shola, cisse, guttierez, sammy ameobi, obertan

all didnt start today.

great performance, Man United awful, but thought we played really well and definitely deserved it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 14, 2013, 04:40:36 PM
have said this from the very start but think remy is an awful, awful footballer. really hope we dont sign him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 14, 2013, 04:42:13 PM
he  just looks good compared to cisse because hes the absolte worst.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 14, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
cisse and remy upfront now must be the worst pairing in the premiership.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 15, 2013, 06:07:08 AM
Disagree about Remy. Players are allowed the odd poor patch.

Sissoko smacking the ref was hilarious.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 15, 2013, 08:57:50 AM
Remy jut isn't a footballer to me he is an athlete.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on December 15, 2013, 07:02:50 PM
Kyle walker just isn't a footballer to me he is an athlete.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 15, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
think kyle walker has the most completed crosses or somethign this year. hes got an absolute ping on him too,.óó,


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 26, 2013, 03:40:55 PM
just so annoying playing with Remy, the guy is so so poor. Wish we could send him back in January and buy a proper forward.

More than happy if he proves me wrong in the next 60 minutes.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 26, 2013, 03:53:50 PM
he won a pen heh

edit- still shit


edit edit- oh fuck hes taking it not ben arfa wtf


edit edit edit missed obhv

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so so annoying.

greedy fucking bastard.

ben arfa is pen taker, scored last week and remy takes it just because he made it.


edit edit edit edit - lol he just scored.


mug.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 26, 2013, 03:56:09 PM
stoke got 9 men and ben arfa taking libs.

remy will end up with a hat trick i guess!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on December 26, 2013, 04:26:38 PM
stoke got 9 men and ben arfa taking libs.

remy will end up with a hat trick i guess!

Just one more needed then......


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 26, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
game was abit of a joke, Stoke looked very comfortable then got 2 men sent off and we jsut has way too much space.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on December 26, 2013, 09:20:30 PM
I told you from what I saw of Remy at Palace, he just seems to be a guy that is waiting for that opportunity to do well from, without being the best of chance creators himself. Can be a decent hold up player, but him on the last man is a frightening concept, probably actually forces defensive lines back and gives Cabaye the space to do what he does.

Strikes me as the Clinton Morrison type.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 26, 2013, 09:29:02 PM


Strikes me as the Clinton Morrison type.

very much so unfortunately!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2013, 09:39:40 PM
Rantaments :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 29, 2013, 10:03:55 AM
I'm looking forward to the Arsenal game. For once it realistically feels like we can get something from it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 12, 2014, 02:59:18 PM
Cannot believe that was disallowed...

Worst thing is, Newcastle are likely to end up with about 8 players on the pitch now.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 12, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
Seems harsh :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on January 12, 2014, 03:10:05 PM
I fear for pleno's health.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 12, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
i cant watch us with remy or cisse on the pitch


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on January 13, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
Just seen the highlights and a little annoyed by Danny Mills view on this, not looking to rile, but agree with the officials that Goffran is offside, merely for his off-putting placement to Hart. He could potentially deflect the ball in, so Hart instinctively doesn't dive with him there. If he isn't there Hart dives, even if he isn't going to get it. That is an interference, so a just decision.

What should be of more concern is the lackadaisical way Goffran was initially trying to get back onside, had no business to be standing where he was. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 13, 2014, 02:21:19 PM
Thought it was pretty hilarious people, inc Pardumb, suggesting the goal should stand because it was a worldy, huh what ?


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Post by: DungBeetle on January 13, 2014, 02:27:37 PM
I agree.  That decision could have gone either way - very marginal.

I listened to 606 on Sunday night and they were going on about it for about an hour.  No idea why.

Watford once "conceded" a goal when the Reading striker headed the ball wide and nobody really commented on it !





Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on January 13, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
I agree.  That decision could have gone either way - very marginal.

I listened to 606 on Sunday night and they were going on about it for about an hour.  No idea why.

Watford once "conceded" a goal when the Reading striker headed the ball wide and nobody really commented on it !





It would have been huge had you been in the Prem.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on January 13, 2014, 02:42:32 PM
Thought it was pretty hilarious people, inc Pardumb, suggesting the goal should stand because it was a worldy, huh what ?

No-one likes to see beauty removed from the provider, hence the strength in uproar. Add in the importance of the goal and you have an emotional brew there. Man City looked very tough to play against yesterday.

I thought for the first goal, Dzeko's one, I think it is Williamson that could have done more to put a foot in when the cross came in before it got to the scorer, but just assumed things would be alright. It is a shame, as you were hit so early it changes the dynamic from the start.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on January 13, 2014, 02:42:48 PM
I agree.  That decision could have gone either way - very marginal.

I listened to 606 on Sunday night and they were going on about it for about an hour.  No idea why.

Watford once "conceded" a goal when the Reading striker headed the ball wide and nobody really commented on it !





It would have been huge had you been in the Prem.

Outrageous rub.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on January 13, 2014, 03:49:36 PM
I agree.  That decision could have gone either way - very marginal.

I listened to 606 on Sunday night and they were going on about it for about an hour.  No idea why.

Watford once "conceded" a goal when the Reading striker headed the ball wide and nobody really commented on it !





It would have been huge had you been in the Prem.

Outrageous rub.

Ha, obv not Dung, but if I did intentially want it to be read like that what a douche I would be :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on January 13, 2014, 03:59:22 PM
It was pure vindictiveness ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longy on January 13, 2014, 04:19:44 PM
Watford once "conceded" a goal when the Reading striker headed the ball wide and nobody really commented on it !


This was pretty awesome to be fair!

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9JCSa8nmBs


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 13, 2014, 04:26:12 PM
Yeh I felt like it was offside


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 20, 2014, 08:56:52 AM
Looks like cabaye to psg for 26m and Cabrella to us for 15


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2014, 01:22:34 AM
Looks like cabaye to psg for 26m and Cabrella to us for 15

Looks like he's deffo offski, so hopefully Pardew gets a few deece replacements in.

Want you boys to finish strong!!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 28, 2014, 01:48:35 AM
19 + add ons, probs fair price if not slightly over what he's worth but I thought we'd get more and I'd rather we'd kept him, sighssss.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2014, 04:02:02 AM
Hopefully Cashley lets him splash a bit of that dough about, so you can march on!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 28, 2014, 07:52:26 AM
Meh, would have rather we kept him till end of season, but we was always going to sell him. Hoping Ashley, reinvests some, although wouldn't be surprised if he didn't as we're 'safe' this season lol.

P.s... Going to my first home game this weekend vs Sunderland.. Oioiiiii :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on January 28, 2014, 08:26:29 AM
Looks like cabaye to psg for 26m and Cabrella to us for 15

Looks like he's deffo offski, so hopefully Pardew gets a few deece replacements in.

Want you boys to finish strong!!

Yeh, sort it out Cashley.  We need our handicap bets to come in.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longines on January 28, 2014, 10:54:04 AM
Mike must be reading http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25927695

 Borussia Monchengladbach striker Luuk de Jong is travelling to Newcastle United for a medical.
The Netherlands international, 23, joined Monchengladbach for a reported £10m two years ago after helping FC Twente to the Dutch title.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 28, 2014, 04:18:35 PM
Most likely they will think it's adequete to sell your best player and replace him with a long signing, which will probs pan out that we've fucked the contract up so don't end up signing him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2014, 04:20:33 PM
Ashley has been on the blower to Oyston, so he can get the old 'broken fax machine' coup down pat ;D



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on January 28, 2014, 04:41:58 PM
Most likely they will think it's adequete to sell your best player and replace him with a long signing, which will probs pan out that we've fucked the contract up so don't end up signing him.

I assume you meant loan signing, but I read he can't do that as they have two loans already.   So any replacements need to be permanent?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 28, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
Most likely they will think it's adequete to sell your best player and replace him with a long signing, which will probs pan out that we've fucked the contract up so don't end up signing him.

I assume you meant loan signing, but I read he can't do that as they have two loans already.   So any replacements need to be permanent?

All the stories I've read saying it's on loan.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 28, 2014, 08:23:15 PM
best 20 minutes ive seen from any premiership team this year, somehow 0-0 lol

ben arfa making cabaye look like a championship player!

lets hope we keep it up.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 28, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
Why hasn't someone on the coaching staff told Santon to stop shooting ffs, just wild everytime, pretty scary to see him taking freekicks.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
In before the Remy related rant from the BITB  :P


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 28, 2014, 10:03:56 PM
he played well today i think, makes the wrong choice a lot of the time but created chances today.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 31, 2014, 08:26:24 PM
Another dead deadline day, another sale of one our best players not replaced.

Confirmed we have nothing to complain about.

Anyone have any idea why Joe Kinnear has a job or what he's actually doing ?

Really not looking forward to tmoro, or the rest of this season, or the rest of the duration of Ashley in charge.

DIABOLICAL!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 31, 2014, 08:33:59 PM
Net last 5 seasons:

1 Manchester City £479,950,000
2 Chelsea £269,759,000
3 Manchester United £138,750,000
4 Stoke City £91,175,000
5 Liverpool £89,400,000
6 Aston Villa £86,000,000
7 Southampton £60,750,000
8 Hull City £47,775,000
9 Sunderland £46,930,000
10 Cardiff City £40,470,000
11 West Ham £30,550,000
12 Norwich City £21,650,000
13 Swansea £18,745,000
14 West Bromwich Albion £14,726,000
15 Crystal Palace £11,950,000
16 Fulham £10,880,000
17 Tottenham £3,850,000
18 Arsenal -£4,125,000
19 Everton -£12,315,500
20 Newcastle -£45,000,000


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 31, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
fucking stoke haha


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on February 01, 2014, 08:44:47 AM

We measure success by how much we spend?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2014, 10:40:38 AM

We measure success by how much we spend?

No I guess we measure ambition.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on February 01, 2014, 10:54:12 AM

We measure success by how much we spend?

No I guess we measure ambition.

Agreed, but ambition can also encompass Youth Academies, & not spending beyond a Club's means too, I'd say.

Arsenal get ripped to bits for being prudent with money, & are trophy-less for more years than we can remember - but THE most important thing, I'd argue, is that the club pays its way, & is not beholden to wealthy investors who might just wave goodbye at any time. Better a trophy-less Arsenal than a skint Arsenal.

Did you see the Man C story this wek? It seems they sold the Club's Image Rights for £50 millon to a mysterious & un-named Company, the suspicion being they are tryng to circumvent Fair Play regulations. Are the Man City shareholders & fans sleeping easy at night with that sort of stuff lurking in the background? To me, success needs to be a sustainable thing, think Liverpool in the 70's & 80's, Man U the next 25 years - that is the target, surely, not one-season wonders?

All football fans seem to urge their Teams to spend spend spend, which is easy when it is not their money. They chunter a bit when they go into Administration, too.

I don't have a problem with Clubs being asked to spend more, but I think it is a balance thing, & we should not judge them by how much they spend, but rather by sustainability.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2014, 11:36:40 AM
I agree too but when we are;

1) stable
2) have the 3rd/4th biggest ground in the country
3) above ground always full
4) received some of the biggest transfer fees for our players (35m Carroll, 20m cabaye)
5) top 5 in the country in terms of global support
6) recently been in Europe and received money for that
7) have as much TV money as most of the teams in the premiership

I is sad for fans of the club who are without doubt amongst the most loyal in the premiership to be told by pardew "finishing 8th is like winning the league for us" outside of city the other positions are really,up for grabs if we spent 40m instead of a net gain of 40m that would be 4/5 world class players that would surely make us into a guarantee top 4/5 team. From their champions league money would more than make up for that 40m spend and he fans who have been starved of trophies for nearly a century and giving so much to the club would receive something.

We're not asking to spend 90m like stoke. We're not asking to spend 500m like city we would be happy,being 10thmon that table below hull, below Cardiff, below sunderland, below stoke, below Southampton and below Villa.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on February 01, 2014, 11:47:50 AM
I agree too but when we are;

1) stable
2) have the 3rd/4th biggest ground in the country
3) above ground always full
4) received some of the biggest transfer fees for our players (35m Carroll, 20m cabaye)
5) top 5 in the country in terms of global support
6) recently been in Europe and received money for that
7) have as much TV money as most of the teams in the premiership

I is sad for fans of the club who are without doubt amongst the most loyal in the premiership to be told by pardew "finishing 8th is like winning the league for us" outside of city the other positions are really,up for grabs if we spent 40m instead of a net gain of 40m that would be 4/5 world class players that would surely make us into a guarantee top 4/5 team. From their champions league money would more than make up for that 40m spend and he fans who have been starved of trophies for nearly a century and giving so much to the club would receive something.

We're not asking to spend 90m like stoke. We're not asking to spend 500m like city we would be happy,being 10thmon that table below hull, below Cardiff, below sunderland, below stoke, below Southampton and below Villa.

Spending that money does not automatically equate to success though, does it?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2014, 12:52:45 PM
I think it would at least help. Lets put it this way, in 2014 in the premier league if we spend -45m then we will be "capped" at probably finishing 5th at absolute very best. If we spent 100m more (50m net spend) I think 5th would be underachieving.

If we didnt have Graham Carr and spent this much money we would almost be certainties for relegation, fortunately weve been able to sign some real gems like Gouffran for 1m etc.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on February 01, 2014, 12:58:57 PM
I think it would at least help. Lets put it this way, in 2014 in the premier league if we spend -45m then we will be "capped" at probably finishing 5th at absolute very best. If we spent 100m more (50m net spend) I think 5th would be underachieving.

If we didnt have Graham Carr and spent this much money we would almost be certainties for relegation, fortunately weve been able to sign some real gems like Gouffran for 1m etc.

It might, yes, but it's by no means  a certainty. A look at that "Spend League Table" does not prove much, imo. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2014, 02:56:43 PM
yes but thats ambition, teams are at least trying. If we try and we fail thats ok, if we dont try and we fail that isnt acceptable.

Football is about winning. Winning games, winning cups, playing with pride. Newcastle annoucned this season to fans that they wouldnt be taking the cups seriously because of the income it generates vs finishing 10th in the league.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on February 01, 2014, 03:04:36 PM
yes but thats ambition, teams are at least trying. If we try and we fail thats ok, if we dont try and we fail that isnt acceptable.

Football is about winning. Winning games, winning cups, playing with pride. Newcastle annoucned this season to fans that they wouldnt be taking the cups seriously because of the income it generates vs finishing 10th in the league.



I can't really see the correlation between spending money & playing with pride.

I just think it is a lot wider than just spending money. Academy for juniors, scouting, club infrastructure, if it were my money, they'd be the things I'd want to invest in, for the long-term, not this or next season.

If a Manager came to me as Chairman, & said "give me money & I'll give you a winning team" I'd not even consider employing him.

We shall have to agree to differ, I think, we coiuld bat this back & forth forever.

Money is not the cure all for all ills.   


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2014, 03:13:22 PM
Ok so we had a good academy, we brought Carroll through, sold him for 35m the money goes to the chairman and the c,USB doesn't benefit. What's the point?

The way the club is being set up we are looking to not challenge is any cups and aim for 8th to be like winning the league.

How is that fair on the fans who give up their hard money each week every week, travel further than any other fans for away matches and literally bleed black and white.

Everton is a similar club to newcastle, they bring through young players and they have passionate fans. This week Baines arguably their best player opted to sign a contract for life because of the a,bit ion they showed to him whilst cabaye made a deal to leave in this window 6 months ago. That is the difference.

Southampton constantly buying international players to support their very good youth academy, that's the difference.

When Everton lost fellani they replaced him with McCarthy and Barry to make sure they weren't short, we were arguing over 1-2m for players and thus missed out leaving us bare.

We have the biggest joke in the premiership joe kinnear telling fans to judge him on his transfers and "he won't let anybody leave in January" we lose our best player and sign nobody with a 20m net gain for our chairman.

We don't get any money from advertising, all of the advertising is sports direct which is our chairmanship main company.

Almost every club in the premiership has faultless facilities and very solid infrastructure.

The whole "give me money and ill win you something" argument is not what we are saying at all. We don't want nor expect to spend like man city we want to at least compete with hull/Cardiff/villa and sunderland.

We are a joke!



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on February 01, 2014, 06:59:03 PM
We're shite.

pleno pretty much spot on with everything he's said.

Spending money doesn't necessarily equal success tikay but the way we go about transfers is a bit of a joke. On the one hand we've managed to sign some great players for way under what they're worth, and sold some for way over (e.g. Carroll) but the amount of targets we have and don't sign because of the way we do business is ridiculous.

As far as Mike Ashley is concerned somewhere about 10th place is ideal. Get there with spending as little money as possible, receive the TV income, and have a massive advertising space for his main brand.

We were doing well this season. I still don't rate Pardew but our league position was good with the above spaces up for grabs to anyone who wants them. We've got the money, why not spend some of it and get a couple of players in and make a push for those positions. It's not spending beyond our means. And when you've got Shola Ameobi getting in the starting XI never mind the bench it's pretty much the definition of needing to buy.

But no. What do we do? We sell arguably our best player and don't replace him. Then get beat 3-0 in the derby.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on February 04, 2014, 04:17:19 AM
Kinnear gone.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on February 04, 2014, 08:14:05 AM
GET OUT


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 23, 2014, 02:17:07 PM
Newcastle are woeful.

Lucky you've got so many points in the bag because you are playing like relegation fodder right now.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on February 23, 2014, 03:37:13 PM
Loic Remy is terrible huh?

Absolutely the only threat you've got.

Brilliant finish.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on February 25, 2014, 02:09:30 AM
Loic Remy is terrible huh?

Absolutely the only threat you've got.

Brilliant finish.

we wouldn't have scored without De Jong on the pitch. When he gets to full fitness he's gonna be crucial for us trying to find a way to replace Cabaye.

Remy is just a decent striker who looks amazing in an average (at best) team. He'll leave in the summer though. Gl to him.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on March 02, 2014, 01:13:51 PM
Well, if they wanted rid of Pardew then that was the time to do it. Pretty sure the 8 year thing means nothing if you're being sacked for what surely must be gross misconduct?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on March 02, 2014, 10:55:11 PM
Can't help feeling Remy is the missing piece for Arsenal


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Honeybadger on March 04, 2014, 12:28:26 AM
Can't help feeling Remy is the missing piece for Arsenal

Nah, Arsenal should go in for Shola Ameobi. World class player. Only reason Newcastle don't give him regular starts is to cunningly keep his silky skills and lethal goal threat secret from the other top clubs.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on March 04, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
Can't help feeling Remy is the missing piece for Arsenal

Arsenal could do better business than the 16m they'll have to pay (assumes QPR get promoted, not certain ofc)

But I definitely think Arsenal is one possible destination for him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on March 29, 2014, 04:51:25 PM
We will be in a relegation fight next year.

Pardew quite simply has to go.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on March 29, 2014, 05:01:43 PM
We will be in a relegation fight next year.

Pardew quite simply has to go.

not sure it's Pardew's fault we are fucking dreadful.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on March 29, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
The problem is there's so much else wrong with the club that Pardew seems to get a free ride. He will complain for instance that we sold Cabaye and didn't replace him. But it just highlights how much we rely on certain players. Without them he can't get a decent team performance. Well, he still couldn't. It took players like Cabaye and Remy to pull results out of the bag.

It's easy to see why managing us can be considered a difficult situation but it's being used as an excuse as to why the manager is doing poorly rather than just seeing that it's actually because he's a poor manager.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on March 29, 2014, 05:20:07 PM
The problem is there's so much else wrong with the club that Pardew seems to get a free ride. He will complain for instance that we sold Cabaye and didn't replace him. But it just highlights how much we rely on certain players. Without them he can't get a decent team performance. Well, he still couldn't. It took players like Cabaye and Remy to pull results out of the bag.

It's easy to see why managing us can be considered a difficult situation but it's being used as an excuse as to why the manager is doing poorly rather than just seeing that it's actually because he's a poor manager.

i'll do the same thing I do every time someone suggests sacking pardew.

who would you replace him with? be realistic. don't say someone like 'Michael Laudrup' because a) he's wank and b) wouldn't come here anyway.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on March 29, 2014, 05:24:38 PM
Obviously Pardew is no great shakes as a manager, but surely the problem with the club is upstairs?

Won't replacing the manager just see the same things happening, and just somebody new picking the side?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on March 29, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
We will be in a relegation fight next year.

Pardew quite simply has to go.

not sure it's Pardew's fault we are fucking dreadful.

hes absolutely incompetent. from team selection all the way through to tactics.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on March 30, 2014, 02:15:53 AM
We will be in a relegation fight next year.

Pardew quite simply has to go.

not sure it's Pardew's fault we are fucking dreadful.

hes absolutely incompetent. from team selection all the way through to tactics.

Same question. Who do you get to replace him?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 05, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
Seriously Pardew. GTFO.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 07, 2014, 11:39:06 PM
The fact this Sunderland team took 6 points off us is an absolute disgrace.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 11, 2014, 05:42:32 PM
Fucking moron. Apparently stoke will be a very tough game for us as they are a very very good team and we are lacking a bit of quality at the moment.

Games not even here and he's bigging up the other team and downplaying our chances.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 12, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
Fucking moron. Apparently stoke will be a very tough game for us as they are a very very good team and we are lacking a bit of quality at the moment.

Games not even here and he's bigging up the other team and downplaying our chances.

have you seen team? pleno will be wanting to kill someone..


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 12, 2014, 05:54:15 PM
Newcastle United
01 Krul
08 Anita
36 Dummett
02 Coloccini Booked
06 Williamson
27 Taylor (Yanga-Mbiwa - 61' )
15 Gosling (Ben Arfa - 73' )
24 Tioté
23 Sh Ameobi
09 Cissé (Armstrong - 74' )
11 Gouffran


what a fkn idiot.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 12, 2014, 08:51:21 PM
That doesn't do justice to the formation we (attempted to at least) played! So many players out of position and half our bench stronger than the first team.

And now he's blaming the local press. Complete clown.

At least the "Pardew Out" banners were picked up on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 12, 2014, 09:20:45 PM
Just depressing times, we just look awful :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 13, 2014, 03:00:05 AM
I want to put Pleno in charge now.

Backed Pardew a lot (only because i don't think we can get anyone better) but after his absolutely ludicrous comments today he just has to go man.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Longines on April 13, 2014, 12:54:27 PM
And now he's blaming the local press. Complete clown.

Brilliant.


(http://i4.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article6982852.ece/alternates/s615b/Sunday-Sun-backpage.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 19, 2014, 05:09:38 PM
And we still won't sack him. Jesus.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2014, 05:11:11 PM
Got to admit part of me wanted him to score that pen.

Tbh though I think results will be irrelevant, Ashley and his merry men are going nowhere.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 19, 2014, 05:12:53 PM
Got to admit part of me wanted him to score that pen.

Tbh though I think results will be irrelevant, Ashley and his merry men are going nowhere.

Yeah that's why I didn't want him to score pen because it makes no diff.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 19, 2014, 05:13:19 PM
plspls pls pls gtfo. the pen means that the fans can really turn on ashley. sit out protests etc. gtfooooooo


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on April 19, 2014, 05:41:35 PM
I guess we should just be thankful that we are in a better financial position than we were since we spend the least amount on transfers in the league and can't compete with the Norwich's and Palace's of this world when it comes to wages.

If only we had some income from advertising!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 19, 2014, 05:52:09 PM
I went "oh ffs shola you choose this as the time to score your first goal in god knows how long", to "yes!" when they scored and "GTFIT!!!" when they scored the penalty.

Genuinely want us to lose every remaining game and finish outside the top 10.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 19, 2014, 05:58:48 PM
plspls pls pls gtfo. the pen means that the fans can really turn on ashley. sit out protests etc. gtfooooooo

He doesn't give a shit man.

He'll do what he wants and develop a siege mentality of 'I'm not giving in'

The club serves perfectly as a vessel for him to hawk his sports direct wares so why will he care?

Sit out protests? We already have some of the worst commercial revenue in the league so why would he care?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 19, 2014, 05:59:41 PM
He only walks away if we get relegated and don't make it back up before the parachute payments end AND he gets £150m+ for the club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on April 21, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
Brilliant:

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/newcastle/next-permanent-manager

Price on Tim Sherwood coming in. Would rather have Pardew than that clown.

In fact, of the entire top 10 or so the only one of half want is Beardo. More because he's a legend and can't poss be worse than Pardew than because I think he'd be good, though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 02, 2014, 01:09:35 AM
nearly cried reading this!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10799779/Hatem-Ben-Arfa-pleads-for-a-chance-to-help-his-beloved-Newcastle.html

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/30/hatem-ben-arfa-newcastle-alan-pardew?

one of the most gifted players in the world, saying he has no confidence, made to train with the reserves whilst the worst team in premership histry gets beat 4-0 every week and he sometimes gets a chance when its 0-2 for 10 minutes.

One of the most heartbreaking interviews I've ever read. Everything I stand for and hope for and ask for as a Newcastle supporter summarized by our most gifted player, the f***ing hero that he is, in an interview designed to illustrate the meaning of football in contrast to our pointless s*** approach


so so so sad.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 04:50:53 PM
Thoughts on the 'protest'?

Pathetic IMO.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 04:59:23 PM
typical brain dead unrealistic football fans whose team has actually over achieved this season.  Comical.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 05:06:58 PM
typical brain dead unrealistic football fans whose team has actually over achieved this season.  Comical.

Yeah your right, 3rd highest attendances in the League, 7th highest turnover, 20th in transfer spending, makes you wonder why we not out in the streets celebrating at another great season with a team very likely to struggle to stay up next season, just like last season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 05:12:07 PM
typical brain dead unrealistic football fans whose team has actually over achieved this season.  Comical.

Yeah your right, 3rd highest attendances in the League, 7th highest turnover, 20th in transfer spending, makes you wonder why we not out in the streets celebrating at another great season with a team very likely to struggle to stay up next season, just like last season.

Yee not joining the rest of us at the party on the Barrack Rd later mate?

Flags, face paints and Pardew Masks.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 05:14:42 PM
In case anyone missed it:

(http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/ChronFront-P45DUE-e1398845923519.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 05:26:20 PM
You just won 3-0 lads.  49 points for season. Expected to get 45 at the start.  Hate to see how u would feel if you had 45 points like you were expected to at the start of the season.  Imagine if you had 'run bad' this season and finished with 41 points (4 points worse than you should have done rather than the 4 points better than you should have done) you guys would be killing yourself.  Football fans are a funny breed.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 05:29:36 PM
I don't see why I should be happy with having 45 points as a target.

I don't see why I should be happy with the owner treating the fans like mugs.

I don't see why I should be happy with a manager who is determined to back the 'regime' and blame the fans/press/anyone else you like.

I don't see why I should be happy with slightly over performing to a terrible expectation.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 05:31:04 PM
You just won 3-0 lads.  49 points for season. Expected to get 45 at the start.  Hate to see how u would feel if you had 45 points like you were expected to at the start of the season.  Imagine if you had 'run bad' this season and finished with 41 points (4 points worse than you should have done rather than the 4 points better than you should have done) you guys would be killing yourself.  Football fans are a funny breed.

You do realise that Expected to get 45 at the start is the problem not that we just won 3-0 against a team relegated or that we've ran good and got 49 ?

So with the current team we have if we don't run good we can expect a relegation battle at best, and we should be pleased about this ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 05:32:40 PM
I don't see why you think you should expect to finish above any team in the top 8 who are currently above you in the league table apart from maybe southampton.  On what grounds do you think you should finish above any of these teams other than you are blind newcastle fans?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 05:33:46 PM
I don't see why you think you should expect to finish above any team in the top 8 who are currently above you in the league table apart from maybe southampton.  On what grounds do you think you should finish above any of these teams other than you are blind newcastle fans?

Are you just not reading the posts ?

Quote were that's been said ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redsimon on May 03, 2014, 05:36:08 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 05:36:29 PM
It's 2014 you are not a bigger club than any of the current top 7.  Sorry to try and wake u up and smell the coffee but that is reality.  It's like dealing with Adz all over again on the Arsenal thread.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 05:36:55 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 05:37:14 PM
You can all have 5/1 newcastle go down next year with me for anything up to £500 if the club is in such trouble.  I will pay for all your season tickets to watch such terrible football if you are already doomed just let me know how much you want on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 05:38:27 PM
It's 2014 you are not a bigger club than any of the current top 7.  Sorry to try and wake u up and smell the coffee but that is reality.  It's like dealing with Adz all over again on the Arsenal thread.

We know this, go and read Mondas list again.

I don't think he wrote:

'We aren't finishing in third even though we're bigger than Liverpool'


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
It's 2014 you are not a bigger club than any of the current top 7.  Sorry to try and wake u up and smell the coffee but that is reality.  It's like dealing with Adz all over again on the Arsenal thread.

Could you explain in what way that Everton, Southampton and Tottenham are bigger clubs ?

I'm luckily not a complete moron so I'm well aware they all currently have better players.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: sovietsong on May 03, 2014, 05:49:15 PM
It's 2014 you are not a bigger club than any of the current top 7.  Sorry to try and wake u up and smell the coffee but that is reality.  It's like dealing with Adz all over again on the Arsenal thread.

Could you explain in what way that Everton, Southampton and Tottenham are bigger clubs ?

I'm luckily not a complete moron so I'm well aware they all currently have better players.

I love the big club debate, Leeds are still a bigger club than newcastle right? ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redsimon on May 03, 2014, 05:56:17 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 05:59:57 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.

heh, I know, I know....

unfortunately we'll be stuck with a hapless manager and a cantankerous arse of an owner who both treat the fans like mugs and you're right, the owner will refuse to invest this summer and things will be incred grim next year. I don't know that we for sure will be relegated, but we'll definitely be in the scrap which we could easily fade.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 06:00:17 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.

Every Newcastle fan I know is in agreement that Pardew is just a small part of the problem.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
These are the same fans whose team can't compete financially with the top 6 in the uk yet they want to turn down a huge amount of cash every year to help close the gap just because they don't want the ground's name changed.  You can't have it all ways lads if you want to compete you have to move with the times.  


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 06:04:59 PM
These are the same fans whose team can't compete financially with the top 6 in the uk yet they want to turn down a huge amount of cash every year to help close the gap just because they don't want the ground's name changed.  You can't have it all ways lads if you want to compete you have to move with the times.  

Yeah because we make a shit load of money advertising Sports Direct right ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.

Every Newcastle fan I know is in agreement that Pardew is just a small part of the problem.


imo the biggest problem with the club is the fan's deluded sense of entitlement/expectation.  Your club is being run on a sensible 65% wages/turnover ratio by a shrewd business man owner who is self made.  Just because you have 55,000 turn up every week that isn't the key revenue driver in football anymore like it was 30 years ago.  If football was judged on a big crowd in a single team city with no competition then yes you would be considered a big club.  However it's not 1982 any more and things have moved on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 03, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
Since february it's been absolutely terrible, I'll agree with that, but we defo over-achieved the first half of the season, Cabaye and Remy on form, Gouffran playing great (admittedly keeping Ben Arfa out of the team but still) but was playing some great stuff and defo deserved every bit of being in the top 6 imo, on the ground of the football we'd played.

Then Cabaye goes and takes Remy's form with him (injury didn't help) Gouffran struggles aswel without Cabaye there and unfortunately it appears that despite him scoring some absolute worldies in his first season It's become apparent that Cisse is not good enough for the premier league. No creativity (without cabaye) no goals (without Remy) and no form or confidence, but like Camel said luckily we'd had such a good first half and there are some awful awful teams at the bottom we were never in danger of going anywhere near the relegation battle.

Basically next season we need a heart of the team, playmaker, creator, someone who can make stuff happen when it's needed (Ben Arfa for e.g. if he's on form) and we need someone who can score goals!! Remy going back i imagine and rumours of arsenal going in for him?

If we can find that player, and a striker - and Mike Ashley makes the cash available for those players, and can strengthen the team on the wings a bit then i think we have a great shout at a good season next year, imo.

Defo way too much doom and gloom I agree with Arbboy, it's just so disappointing after such a great start that we couldn't have had a go at europe this season (spesh with Man U falling out of the race) or at the very least just had some good football to watch this last 4 months.

Newcastle is a "big" club, it's got a big stadium and relentlessly loyal support - doesn't entitle us to anything though, just means that we have the structure with the stadium and the training facilities to make a genuine attack at the big clubs if and when the opportunity arises - like it might have done this yr if Cabaye stayed and Remy stayed fit/in form for e.g.

Im way more optimistic than everyone else though it seems!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 06:09:26 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.

Every Newcastle fan I know is in agreement that Pardew is just a small part of the problem.


imo the biggest problem with the club is the fan's deluded sense of entitlement/expectation.  Your club is being run on a sensible 65% wages/turnover ratio by a shrewd business man owner who is self made.  Just because you have 55,000 turn up every week that isn't the key revenue driver in football anymore like it was 30 years ago.  If football was judged on a big crowd in a single team city with no competition then yes you would be considered a big club.  However it's not 1982 any more and things have moved on.

Same old bs that is completely untrue and really annoying.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.

Every Newcastle fan I know is in agreement that Pardew is just a small part of the problem.


imo the biggest problem with the club is the fan's deluded sense of entitlement/expectation.  Your club is being run on a sensible 65% wages/turnover ratio by a shrewd business man owner who is self made.  Just because you have 55,000 turn up every week that isn't the key revenue driver in football anymore like it was 30 years ago.  If football was judged on a big crowd in a single team city with no competition then yes you would be considered a big club.  However it's not 1982 any more and things have moved on.

Same old bs that is completely untrue and really annoying.

Why do you expect the owner not to utilise a key revenue stream in stadium naming rights just so the ground stays as St James park?  What fecking difference does it make.  Virtually every arena/stadium in US sports have naming rights attached to them.  Numerous do in the EPL now as well.  Why would you want to fall behind the game by not doing that as a fan?

As a Stoke fan when the club's deal with Britannia is up i would confidently expect the ground to be renamed as the 'bet365arena' as it belongs to the owners and they have 1000% right to call their stadium (not the fans) - they own it, anything they choose to.  Why do football fans think they should have a say in what a building which they own 0% of should be called?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 06:14:50 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.

Every Newcastle fan I know is in agreement that Pardew is just a small part of the problem.


imo the biggest problem with the club is the fan's deluded sense of entitlement/expectation.  Your club is being run on a sensible 65% wages/turnover ratio by a shrewd business man owner who is self made.  Just because you have 55,000 turn up every week that isn't the key revenue driver in football anymore like it was 30 years ago.  If football was judged on a big crowd in a single team city with no competition then yes you would be considered a big club.  However it's not 1982 any more and things have moved on.

Absolute bollocks.

Please tell me all about our financial performance. Please tell me all about the fact that a ground which is twice the size of Norwich's but we have a similar commercial revenue. Note that's not just 'matchday revenue', but commercial revenue in it's entirety.

Why don't you tell me all about that.

Whilst you're at it, why don't you tell me all about how easy it is for mugs to be taken in by lazy journalism and the 'good businessman' PR spin.

By many measures the club also under performs financially as well as on the field. But that's not the story you've been sold so just believe it because you've seen the kind of balloon who stands outside the ground ranting into the SSN cameras and you can take him as a representation of the enitre fanbase and conclude we're all deluded.

Like any club, we have our share of deluded fans who think we should be challenging for the CL spots but most aren't. We just want a team that gives a shit and not the be treated like mugs. If we got that, and got relegated next year anyway, I'd be happier than I was this year for sure.

It's no fun being lied to constantly, being blamed for the team losing, watching the board defend a manager who headbutts and opponent etc etc. If thinking any of that makes me deluded then pass me the fucking crack pipe.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 03, 2014, 06:16:50 PM
tell you I'ma huge fan off, Shola Ameobi.

Legend.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 06:19:30 PM
You could be looking at this season as a great sucess in 12 months time.

Ouch.

If we don't 'overpeform' again then you may well be right.

Wasn't intended as a dig, but the guy who owns your club don't seem too keen to spend money so Pardew or no Pardew could be grim next year.

Believe me following a club that hasn't tasted top flight football this century your problems are ones I'd love every day.

Every Newcastle fan I know is in agreement that Pardew is just a small part of the problem.


imo the biggest problem with the club is the fan's deluded sense of entitlement/expectation.  Your club is being run on a sensible 65% wages/turnover ratio by a shrewd business man owner who is self made.  Just because you have 55,000 turn up every week that isn't the key revenue driver in football anymore like it was 30 years ago.  If football was judged on a big crowd in a single team city with no competition then yes you would be considered a big club.  However it's not 1982 any more and things have moved on.

Same old bs that is completely untrue and really annoying.

Why do you expect the owner not to utilise a key revenue stream in stadium naming rights just so the ground stays as St James park?  What fecking difference does it make.  Virtually every arena/stadium in US sports have naming rights attached to them.  Numerous do in the EPL now as well.  Why would you want to fall behind the game by not doing that as a fan?

Teams do that to increase revenues and inturn can further invest to improve the team, Sports Direct pay us precisely £0 for advertising, you knew that though right ?

People weren't happy because they know it wouldn't lead to any kind of positive result for the club, if it did then people would be happy with that happening, obv.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 06:46:02 PM
Yes i did know that because Ashley is using it as a trial to see the impact to then sell the rights to outside businesses for $.  However even if he chooses to keep it as Sports Direct there will be an inter company transfer between his two companies for an amount to suit his companies for tax reasons which as the sole owner of Newcastle he has every right to do.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 06:49:08 PM
Yes i did know that because Ashley is using it as a trial to see the impact to then sell the rights to outside businesses for $.  However even if he chooses to keep it as Sports Direct there will be an inter company transfer between his two companies for an amount to suit his companies for tax reasons which as the sole owner of Newcastle he has every right to do.

So when was there a huge amount of cash for stadium naming rights that we all wanted turned down ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 07:28:44 PM
Indefinite trial I guess then, positively Kafkan.

Wake me up pls it's all been a bad dream.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on May 03, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
tell you I'ma huge fan off, Shola Ameobi.

Legend.

True that. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on May 03, 2014, 08:02:21 PM
Newcastle have a net spend of -24m over the past 5 years.

They didnt sign anyone this season.

Dont see how you can argue with fans being upset with the investment in the team Arboy

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/newcastle-united-transfers.html


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 08:19:30 PM
Didn't hear these complaints 6 months ago when they were running like god now they have regressed to the mean over the course of the season it's all the owners fault for not spending. 

Serious question do fans of football teams (not just newcastle btw) expect the owner of the club to be able to make a profit or should this never happen?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 08:28:13 PM
Didn't hear these complaints 6 months ago when they were running like god now they have regressed to the mean over the course of the season it's all the owners fault for not spending. 

Serious question do fans of football teams (not just newcastle btw) expect the owner of the club to be able to make a profit or should this never happen?

If you didn't hear the complaints about the way the owner was treating the club 6months ago you can't have been listening very hard. Or indeed at all.

For what it's worth this 'football is a business' argument is also debatable. There's an entire chapter in soccernomics devoted to the idea that in general it would be better for football clubs to be social enterprises not businesses.

However, this isn't the way of the world and right now they are businesses (at least at the top level) which is fine, and clubs can try and make profit etc, no problem. But you wouldn't run a business without ambition so why would you run a football club without it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 08:33:50 PM
You run a business to maximise shareholder wealth which is probably what ashley is doing a very successful job of.  Pretty hard to argue he hasn't bought at the bottom of most players valuations and sold at the top.  Pretty simple way to make money.    All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 08:35:56 PM
You run a business to maximise shareholder wealth which is probably what ashley is doing a very successful job of.  Pretty hard to argue he hasn't bought at the bottom of most players valuations and sold at the top.  Pretty simple way to make money.    All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings.

Yes. He has done that. No when did he last make a perm signing? And who was it? What will their expected value be when sold?

How do you continue this superb business strategy without actually making a perm signing?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
I mean you just keep making sweeping statements that aren't true, not really sure why you are doing that but ok enjoy, done with this debate now, since it's clearly, as usual, a waste of time.

This was almost exactly 6 months.

Personally I honestly don't believe this is acceptable.

Pardew is a spineless man and and a spineless manager, nobody can defend this.

Last season our worst performance of the season was against our biggest rivals at home, this year he put a team out who once again decided to put in the worst performance of the season in the biggest game of the season. This imo isn't acceptable, this isn't me heart over head, the game against Sunderland genuinely was our worst performance of the season, ditto today. I see no reason why the players would bottle a derby they don't actually give a shit about so you have to blame the manager. Ashley's a twat who doesn't give a shit so he's fine but Pardew deserves to be sacked for today's performance alone, absolutely disgusting.

Couple of months before that

Pretty clear to see that we have a lot of players who aren't anywhere near the level needed to be successful at a top level club. Of course the odd potential banana skin tie means the games aren't pretty but this is the 7th, 8th or even more time that the same second string players have played against weak opposition and showed nothing, they clearly aren't good enough.

We were really lucky tonight, and a man under as much pressure as Pardew I'm surprised he took such a big risk as we could very easily have lost tonight.

You want me to carry on ?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 08:42:13 PM
He is a shrewd business man he knows no matter how loud the newcastle fans bark they will still turn up week in week out.  Football to use an economics term is a very inelastic product (basically means customers are very loyal and don't move easily as the price goes up) therefore he knows one revenue stream is pretty constant the match day revenue.  The other key revenue streams are the tv deal which is constant as long as they remain in the EPL.  He controls his profit like most businesses by paying as little as possible for his overheads (players wages - 65% of his total turnover) to ensure the above revenue streams keep rolling in.  Most business owners don't care about their customers and i am sure he doesn't either as long as they keep turning up and buying his products (which they do every other week at stjames).  He has spent the last 20 years of his life buying up destressed firms and making them profitable.  Pretty sure whatever he says in public this is just another business for him which is he using to promote his main business sportsdirect.com which has made him one of the richest people in the uk.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 08:42:43 PM
Yes i did know that because Ashley is using it as a trial to see the impact to then sell the rights to outside businesses for $.  However even if he chooses to keep it as Sports Direct there will be an inter company transfer between his two companies for an amount to suit his companies for tax reasons which as the sole owner of Newcastle he has every right to do.

So when was there a huge amount of cash for stadium naming rights that we all wanted turned down ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 08:50:46 PM
I very much welcome anyone else suggesting how Arbboy is correct and I'm just a blind Newcastle fan ?

Nice one on offering 5/1 on us being relegated to prove your point  as well,  SkyBet is 7/1, C for effort, bit like your posts itt.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 08:57:40 PM
lol arbboy so clueless about newcastle he thinks ashley makes statements in public.

roflaments.

He is a shrewd business man he knows no matter how loud the newcastle fans bark they will still turn up week in week out.  Football to use an economics term is a very inelastic product (basically means customers are very loyal and don't move easily as the price goes up) therefore he knows one revenue stream is pretty constant the match day revenue.  The other key revenue streams are the tv deal which is constant as long as they remain in the EPL.  He controls his profit like most businesses by paying as little as possible for his overheads (players wages - 65% of his total turnover) to ensure the above revenue streams keep rolling in.  Most business owners don't care about their customers and i am sure he doesn't either as long as they keep turning up and buying his products (which they do every other week at stjames).  He has spent the last 20 years of his life buying up destressed firms and making them profitable.  Pretty sure whatever he says in public this is just another business for him which is he using to promote his main business sportsdirect.com which has made him one of the richest people in the uk.

not for two years at least.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 09:03:25 PM
Course you are a blind newcastle fan like adz is a blind arsenal fan.  It's not a bad thing but blind football fans (99.5% of football fans in general) never see things from the other side of the fence (ie the owners).  But equally they moan like hell when owners and managers like harry at pompey O'leary at leeds win the world relatively in a short space of time, turn the club into a world beater relatively then the club goes busto 5 years on.  Ask most leeds fans and pompey fans if they would take some mid table epl entertainment and realise life isn't quite so bad as it looks.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
You run a business to maximise shareholder wealth which is probably what ashley is doing a very successful job of.  Pretty hard to argue he hasn't bought at the bottom of most players valuations and sold at the top.  Pretty simple way to make money.    All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings.

You mean other than us being relegated once and having the threat of relegation again looming over us just last season ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 09:05:27 PM
Yes i did know that because Ashley is using it as a trial to see the impact to then sell the rights to outside businesses for $.  However even if he chooses to keep it as Sports Direct there will be an inter company transfer between his two companies for an amount to suit his companies for tax reasons which as the sole owner of Newcastle he has every right to do.

So when was there a huge amount of cash for stadium naming rights that we all wanted turned down ?

I guess you keep missing this...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 09:06:54 PM
You run a business to maximise shareholder wealth which is probably what ashley is doing a very successful job of.  Pretty hard to argue he hasn't bought at the bottom of most players valuations and sold at the top.  Pretty simple way to make money.    All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings.

You mean other than us being relegated once and having the threat of relegation again looming over us just last season ?

Why shouldn't you be in a relegation dog fight once every 10 years or so?  Unless i am missing something Newcastle haven't been prolific trophy collectors during the past 50 years even when the money was being splashed all over the place left right and centre under Hall.  What exactly have you won in the past 50 years to make yourself entitled to think you belong at the top table of English football on a consistant basis?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
You run a business to maximise shareholder wealth which is probably what ashley is doing a very successful job of.  Pretty hard to argue he hasn't bought at the bottom of most players valuations and sold at the top.  Pretty simple way to make money.    All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings.

You mean other than us being relegated once and having the threat of relegation again looming over us just last season ?

Why shouldn't you be in a relegation dog fight once every 10 years or so?  Unless i am missing something Newcastle haven't been prolific trophy collectors during the past 50 years even when the money was being splashed all over the place left right and centre under Hall.  What exactly have you won in the past 50 years to make yourself entitled to think you belong at the top table of English football on a consistant basis?

You can read what you said yes ? Which was, amongst a lot of other things you have said, factually incorrect.

"All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings"


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 09:14:56 PM
You run a business to maximise shareholder wealth which is probably what ashley is doing a very successful job of.  Pretty hard to argue he hasn't bought at the bottom of most players valuations and sold at the top.  Pretty simple way to make money.    All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings.

You mean other than us being relegated once and having the threat of relegation again looming over us just last season ?

Why shouldn't you be in a relegation dog fight once every 10 years or so?  Unless i am missing something Newcastle haven't been prolific trophy collectors during the past 50 years even when the money was being splashed all over the place left right and centre under Hall.  What exactly have you won in the past 50 years to make yourself entitled to think you belong at the top table of English football on a consistant basis?

You can read what you said yes ? Which was, amongst a lot of other things you have said, factually incorrect.

"All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings"

yes they do maintain their position in the epl easily on the vast majority of seasons but why shouldn't they be involved in a relegation fight once every 10 or 15 years when they 'run bad' during a season?  They went down once and instantly went straight back up in style the next season with little fuss.  Like i said, what have you won during the last 50 years to suggest otherwise?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 09:17:35 PM
You run a business to maximise shareholder wealth which is probably what ashley is doing a very successful job of.  Pretty hard to argue he hasn't bought at the bottom of most players valuations and sold at the top.  Pretty simple way to make money.    All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings.

You mean other than us being relegated once and having the threat of relegation again looming over us just last season ?

Why shouldn't you be in a relegation dog fight once every 10 years or so?  Unless i am missing something Newcastle haven't been prolific trophy collectors during the past 50 years even when the money was being splashed all over the place left right and centre under Hall.  What exactly have you won in the past 50 years to make yourself entitled to think you belong at the top table of English football on a consistant basis?

You can read what you said yes ? Which was, amongst a lot of other things you have said, factually incorrect.

"All whilst easily maintaining their position at the top table of the EPL and all the financial rewards it brings"

yes they do maintain their position in the epl easily on the vast majority of seasons but why shouldn't they be involved in a relegation fight once every 10 or 15 years when they 'run bad' during a season?  They went down once and instantly went straight back up in style the next season with little fuss.  Like i said, what have you won during the last 50 years to suggest otherwise?

Yeah because that was what you originally stated right.

We haven't won a trophy for a very long time, weren't you aware of that.

You tilted me into responding more but I won't bother replying to anymore of your questions, bit like you haven't with mine that don't suit your agenda.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
i'm going to watch Gateshead hopefully qualify for the Conference Playoffs tomorrow vs Grimsby. Hopefully they'll make it to Wembley and give their fans a day out and maybe even get promoted to the league. Amazing what a little ambition can do for you.

Funnily enough, one of the very earliest football memories for me was watching Newcastle beat Grimsby 2-0 in the promotion season on 1992/93. That was the result, with goals from Andy Cole and David Kelly, which clinched promotion. I'm hoping Gateshead can follow suit, and whilst I'm glad that we aren't Grimsby, Leeds, Portsmouth or any of the other clubs which have fallen by the wayside and tumbled down the football pyramid in the intervening years, and in some respects I'm grateful for Ashely for stepping in and making sure we didn't fall so far down, I still remain unconvinced that not wanting to be treated like a mug, lied to, blamed and seeing the club I love getting it's soul removed by someone who doesn't care for the club, only for his bottom line makes me in any way a 'deluded football fan'.

I want to have a shot, I want to go to Wembley in the cup, but I'd settle for trying to win a cup tie of any description, and for making constant attempt to improve our position. I don't care that when we overperform it's Pardew's genius (cf 8 year contract) but when we underperform it's the press, the fans, anyone but Pardew.

I want an owner that engages, that at least pretends to care, maybe even speaks to the fans sometimes. I don't want some guy in the Big Market trying to be all the fans best mate, just someone who listens, and even if he disagrees at least gives me the impression he took my opinion seriously.

If that makes me deluded then fine. But that's not something specific to Newcastle. Or even football. It's about being a human. And caring that when something you love is being destroyed.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 09:22:55 PM
I think Newcastle fans delude themselves because they see 50000 fans going through the ground every week and think that makes them a massive club.  It did in the dark ages when gate revenue made up the vast majority of the revenue streams.  In 2014 it is little more than a blip on the P+L account every year.  Hence why players get paid 200k a week rather than the 8k a week dalgeish and lineker were on in the 80s.  The 50000 fans who actually go to the games nowadays to owners like Ashley who run clubs as businesses are far less important to him than to the owners of the 1980s.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
I think Newcastle fans delude themselves because they see 50000 fans going through the ground every week and think that makes them a massive club.  It did in the dark ages when gate revenue made up the vast majority of the revenue streams.  In 2014 it is little more than a blip on the P+L account every year.  Hence why players get paid 200k a week rather than the 8k a week dalgeish and lineker were on in the 80s.  The 50000 fans who actually go to the games nowadays to owners like Ashley who run clubs as businesses are far less important to him than to the owners of the 1980s.

aye, ok Mr Football-is-Business-And-That's-All-That-Matters.

Newcastle aren't a big club.

(http://i.gyazo.com/c09ae96e79c39460dd446bea9724f22c.png)

Definitely not a big club. But in the top 20 in Europe as measured by Deloitte, who I think we'll agree, know a little about the Business of Football.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 09:36:55 PM
I think Newcastle fans delude themselves because they see 50000 fans going through the ground every week and think that makes them a massive club.  It did in the dark ages when gate revenue made up the vast majority of the revenue streams.  In 2014 it is little more than a blip on the P+L account every year.  Hence why players get paid 200k a week rather than the 8k a week dalgeish and lineker were on in the 80s.  The 50000 fans who actually go to the games nowadays to owners like Ashley who run clubs as businesses are far less important to him than to the owners of the 1980s.

aye, ok Mr Football-is-Business-And-That's-All-That-Matters.

Newcastle aren't a big club.

(http://i.gyazo.com/c09ae96e79c39460dd446bea9724f22c.png)

Definitely not a big club. But in the top 20 in Europe as measured by Deloitte, who I think we'll agree, know a little about the Business of Football.

Correct you are 20th in europe but 7th in the epl and more importantly nowhere near any of the top 6 above you.  You currently sit in 9th in the EPL (2 spots below where you should sit during a normal season per your chart) mainly because soton are having a freak year with an unusual amount of home grown talent coming through and everton who are not a million miles behind you in the financial table also having a great season under a great manager.  Yet your club is in crisis.  This is the bit i don't understand.  This should be a pretty normal season for you.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 09:39:36 PM
Correct you are 20th in europe but 7th in the epl and more importantly nowhere nearly any of the top 6 above you.  You currently sit in 9th in the EPL (2 spots below where you should sit during a normal season per your chart) mainly because soton are having a freak year with an unusual amount of home grown talent coming through and everton who are not a million miles behind you in the financial table also having a great season under a great manager.  Yet your club is in crisis.  This is the bit i don't understand.  This should be a pretty normal season for you.

Being 20th in Europe's Money League doesn't win you any trophies. And who gives a shit if we stay 20th here until the end of time, if the owner doesn't invest we'll never improve. Who wants to do anything without wanting to get better at it.

How is this so hard for you to understand.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 09:49:15 PM
Correct you are 20th in europe but 7th in the epl and more importantly nowhere nearly any of the top 6 above you.  You currently sit in 9th in the EPL (2 spots below where you should sit during a normal season per your chart) mainly because soton are having a freak year with an unusual amount of home grown talent coming through and everton who are not a million miles behind you in the financial table also having a great season under a great manager.  Yet your club is in crisis.  This is the bit i don't understand.  This should be a pretty normal season for you.

Being 20th in Europe's Money League doesn't win you any trophies. And who gives a shit if we stay 20th here until the end of time, if the owner doesn't invest we'll never improve. Who wants to do anything without wanting to get better at it.

How is this so hard for you to understand.


It's not hard to understand from your point of view.  However what happens if Ashley thinks back to Leeds circa 2000 and thinks 'you know what i don't fancy spunking £500m of my own money to try and jump from 7/8/9th in the league to not even be guaranteed a champions league spot and potentially end up like leeds'?  That's the level of investment Newcastle would need to make over say 4 years in order to become a team that the vast majority of Newcastle fans consider their team to be (a regular champions league team).  Even if Ashley decides to do this if Chelski/Man City/Man U/Arsenal decide to spend even more they have just become further behind the top 4 and cost themselves a fortune in the process with no realistic prospect of Ashley seeing the money again. 



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 03, 2014, 09:52:48 PM
It's not hard to understand from your point of view.  However what happens if Ashley thinks back to Leeds circa 2000 and thinks 'you know what i don't fancy spunking £500m of my own money to try and jump from 7/8/9th in the league to not even be guaranteed a champions league spot and potentially end up like leeds'?  That's the level of investment Newcastle would need to make over properly 4 years in order to become a team that the vast majority of Newcastle fans consider their team to be (a regular champions league team).

this is 100% not true and is just really fucking tilting to have to read such utter fucking drivel.  for some reason you really have a hard on for telling actual newcastle fans what they believe.

Go ahead. Justify your statement by telling me all about the absolute clown you once saw on SSN on transfer deadline day playing the village idiot for David Craig.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2014, 10:17:02 PM
what do the majority of newcastle fans think newcastle should be then if they are in the top 20 clubs in europe all of whom are regular champs league clubs and they finish 9th in the EPL with 50 points and that is a crisis season where the owner and manager should go?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 03, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
what do the majority of newcastle fans think newcastle should be then if they are in the top 20 clubs in europe all of whom are regular champs league clubs and they finish 9th in the EPL with 50 points and that is a crisis season where the owner and manager should go?

I'm not a Toon fan obv, but I see no reason they shouldn't be one of the top 20 clubs in Europe.

Huge and passionate support.

Fill St James's Park week in, week out with over 50,000.

The biggest city in England with only one league club (I think I heard this)

IN every city I've lived in you see a myriad of kids wearing all sorts of shirts - Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

In Newcastle 90%+ of kids wearing football shirts are Toon.

No reason they shouldn't be on a par with Dortmund, Atletico and Napoli.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on May 03, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
what do the majority of newcastle fans think newcastle should be then if they are in the top 20 clubs in europe all of whom are regular champs league clubs and they finish 9th in the EPL with 50 points and that is a crisis season where the owner and manager should go?

I'm not a Toon fan obv, but I see no reason they shouldn't be one of the top 20 clubs in Europe.

Huge and passionate support.

Fill St James's Park week in, week out with over 50,000.

The biggest city in England with only one league club (I think I heard this)

IN every city I've lived in you see a myriad of kids wearing all sorts of shirts - Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

In Newcastle 90%+ of kids wearing football shirts are Toon.

No reason they shouldn't be on a par with Dortmund, Atletico and Napoli.



Leeds is way bigger and has more people in its catchment area surely?  Cardiff and Bradford too?  Don't think Newcastle is that big a place. 

Should follow Bradford City if they want to know what shite football and underachieving is.  Way grimmer teams to support than us too.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on May 03, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
what do the majority of newcastle fans think newcastle should be then if they are in the top 20 clubs in europe all of whom are regular champs league clubs and they finish 9th in the EPL with 50 points and that is a crisis season where the owner and manager should go?

I'm not a Toon fan obv, but I see no reason they shouldn't be one of the top 20 clubs in Europe.

Huge and passionate support.

Fill St James's Park week in, week out with over 50,000.

The biggest city in England with only one league club (I think I heard this)

IN every city I've lived in you see a myriad of kids wearing all sorts of shirts - Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

In Newcastle 90%+ of kids wearing football shirts are Toon.

No reason they shouldn't be on a par with Dortmund, Atletico and Napoli.



Leeds is way bigger and has more people in its catchment area surely?  Cardiff and Bradford too?  Don't think Newcastle is that big a place. 

Should follow Bradford City if they want to know what shite football and underachieving is.  Way grimmer teams to support than us too.



Ton of people whinge about how shit England are and nobody makes this same comparison.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on May 04, 2014, 01:09:15 AM
what do the majority of newcastle fans think newcastle should be then if they are in the top 20 clubs in europe all of whom are regular champs league clubs and they finish 9th in the EPL with 50 points and that is a crisis season where the owner and manager should go?

I'm not a Toon fan obv, but I see no reason they shouldn't be one of the top 20 clubs in Europe.

Huge and passionate support.

Fill St James's Park week in, week out with over 50,000.

The biggest city in England with only one league club (I think I heard this)

IN every city I've lived in you see a myriad of kids wearing all sorts of shirts - Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

In Newcastle 90%+ of kids wearing football shirts are Toon.

No reason they shouldn't be on a par with Dortmund, Atletico and Napoli.



Leeds is way bigger and has more people in its catchment area surely?  Cardiff and Bradford too?  Don't think Newcastle is that big a place. 

Should follow Bradford City if they want to know what shite football and underachieving is.  Way grimmer teams to support than us too.



Leeds should be a top 20 club in Europe too.

Newcastle the city isn't as big as some of the cites you mention, but as a district (Tyneside) it's way bigger.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on May 04, 2014, 08:09:43 AM
what do the majority of newcastle fans think newcastle should be then if they are in the top 20 clubs in europe all of whom are regular champs league clubs and they finish 9th in the EPL with 50 points and that is a crisis season where the owner and manager should go?

I'm not a Toon fan obv, but I see no reason they shouldn't be one of the top 20 clubs in Europe.

Huge and passionate support.

Fill St James's Park week in, week out with over 50,000.

The biggest city in England with only one league club (I think I heard this)

IN every city I've lived in you see a myriad of kids wearing all sorts of shirts - Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.

In Newcastle 90%+ of kids wearing football shirts are Toon.

No reason they shouldn't be on a par with Dortmund, Atletico and Napoli.



Leeds is way bigger and has more people in its catchment area surely?  Cardiff and Bradford too?  Don't think Newcastle is that big a place. 

Should follow Bradford City if they want to know what shite football and underachieving is.  Way grimmer teams to support than us too.



Leeds should be a top 20 club in Europe too.

Newcastle the city isn't as big as some of the cites you mention, but as a district (Tyneside) it's way bigger.

No it isn't.  Leeds City is as big as everything in Tyneside put together.  Once you adding in the metropolitan area then it is 2.5x the size.  Ah but then you can add in Bradford/Huddersfield football clubs and you are almost right yada yada

Stupid spending holidays arguing over facts though. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 04, 2014, 01:12:37 PM
arboy missing the point a lot here, as are a lot of others.

Newcastle fans aren't expecting us to spend £100m+ a season and hit the top 4. This is the line that gets spouted so much and it's so tilting to read it. We're not deluded. But we're getting served the complete opposite.

From the outside looking in I can see how it seems we are about "where we should be". But the fact we are is a minor miracle. We ran so far above expectation in the first half of the season. This second half of the season has been more true to where we are at and exposes the absolute fraud that is Alan Pardew.

He's a shit football manager. Simple as that.

He continually plays down expectations with the fans and players alike. He plays people out of position and sets up his team to defend, dig deep, get a few tackles in, without having any clue how to attack.

The times his teams do perform is when he has a couple of gifted players on form. This season that was Cabaye and Remy. When we were dicing with relegation last season 5 new players got brought in and pretty much saved us. Since then they're now playing out of position or not playing at all.

Beyond that though he has no idea how to build a team. If you were to ask me what Newcastle's style is I'd reply I've not a clue. His game plan is to study the other team and try and contain them. It's not about what we as a team should be doing.

The Cardiff game yesterday summed him up quite well. Last home game of the season. We're 1-0 up against bottom of the table Cardiff. At 70 minutes Pardew decides to take off a midfielder and put on a defender. And for anyone who didn't watch that game I'm not sure how Cardiff managed to not score a goal. Some ridiculous saves and goal line blocks from us.

And for those who didn't watch the game MOTD didn't do justice the atmosphere in St James Park. The walk out wasn't as good as it might have been (NUST changing the time from 60 mins to 69 mins causing confusion won't have helped) but the anti-Pardew chants and booing was great. Any time Pardew got up from his chair he was booed straight back into it. He left the game at the end and didn't come back out for the lap of honour (standing in the middle of the park clapping).

And I haven't even started on some of the mindless drivel he comes out with to the press. But special mentions to blaming science, the local media, and the fact our players aren't middle class enough.

For balance I can appreciate some managers might struggle under our regieme. Our lack of spending the last season has been bizzare at the very least. But we DO have a good squad which a year ago was starting to look very strong. Unfortunately this squad has pretty much now been Pardewed.

He's not the only thing wrong with the club but he's a major factor and due to the other problems has somehow gotten away with the world seeing how shit he is. Thankfully this looks like it's starting to change. He simply needs to go.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on May 04, 2014, 08:02:53 PM
Worst protest of the yr award: Tears up season ticket… throws it at the dugout… at the end of the last home game.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmz8xaOIgAASIeR.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 04, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
rofl


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 04, 2014, 08:21:16 PM
Worst protest of the yr award: Tears up season ticket… throws it at the dugout… at the end of the last home game.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmz8xaOIgAASIeR.jpg)

If that had happened yesterday, you'd be right, but it didn't.

It's from the home loss to the other lot down the road in Early Feb.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 05, 2014, 06:16:13 PM
Just when the Newcastle faithful thought it couldn't get any worse!!!!  Pulis has been very heavily backed today to be your next manager!

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/newcastle/next-permanent-manager


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2014, 06:18:32 PM
Just when the Newcastle faithful thought it couldn't get any worse!!!!  Pulis has been very heavily backed today to be your next manager!

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/newcastle/next-permanent-manager

I'm pretty sure that's like manna from heaven!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 05, 2014, 06:42:55 PM
bit of a sideways move for pulis though don't you think?  Just keeps moving from one mid table side to another from stoke to newcastle via palace! ;applause; ;applause;


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 05, 2014, 06:49:02 PM
wasnt a fan of pullis at stoke, think he's done wonders at palace but will v likely stay there. would absolutely take him though if he were available. That said, it's a short list of who I wouldn't take ahead of Pardew right now.

No doubt Newcastle a step up for him though in terms of pedigree but not sure he'd get the shot at managing a team with decent xfer budget that he prolly deserves a shot at because the owner doesn't want to invest.

All largely irrelevant because it's a million that Ashley ever sacks Pardew and he doesn't have the good grace to walk away.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 05, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
It would probably be a step down from Stoke in terms of transfer budget.  He had plenty of money to spend there.  Not sure Newcastle's budget would be as big.  He turned Stoke into one of the biggest net spending teams in the league in the past 5 years.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 05, 2014, 07:02:16 PM
It would probably be a step down from Stoke in terms of transfer budget.  He had plenty of money to spend there.  Not sure Newcastle's budget would be as big.  He turned Stoke into one of the biggest net spending teams in the league in the past 5 years.

yeah that's exactly my point. he wouldn't get the budget he'd probably want but I think certainly Newcastle job more prestigious than Stoke job. Right now I'd take ABP though. Anyone But P45DUE


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 05, 2014, 07:09:22 PM
Hoping he will hang on Pardew til the final whistle of the last game as i have had a decent bet at 1/3 he keeps his job til the end of this season.  Pretty incredible bet if it wins given how much hate there is for him.  Looks like it was virtually impossible for him to lose his job this season given what has happened since i had the bet.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 05, 2014, 07:20:50 PM
Hoping he will hang on Pardew til the final whistle of the last game as i have had a decent bet at 1/3 he keeps his job til the end of this season.  Pretty incredible bet if it wins given how much hate there is for him.  Looks like it was virtually impossible for him to lose his job this season given what has happened since i had the bet.

that bet is a lock mate. should be way shorter than 1/3 (regardless of when you bet :D) Would probably rate it at about 1/60 now (lol arbitrary numbers plucked from thin air)

he might (long odds) sack Pardew in the summer and much much longer Pardew might resign (doesn't have the spine) but basically he's here to stay.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 05, 2014, 10:17:49 PM
Aye. Send for Pulis please after that comeback.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 11, 2014, 04:47:10 PM
wtf Shola, you petulant arse. Prolly just ensuring he doesn't get a new contract and have to play here again next year.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 12, 2014, 12:43:06 AM
what a guy ashley is?  what't not to like?  The staff must love him.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/475134/EXCLUSIVE-Mike-Ashley-set-to-back-Alan-Pardew-as-he-hands-Toon-staff-10-per-cent-bonus


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 30, 2014, 07:07:34 PM
Reports in France that Cabella is very very close....

will believe when I see it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 31, 2014, 12:55:55 PM
What's the point?

He'll be playing Obertan ahead of him within a couple of months.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: doncht on June 02, 2014, 04:19:41 PM
That will be interesting. By the way, do they have an exact date already?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on July 01, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
Siem De Jong 'over the line'.

Pretty happy with that mind.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on July 04, 2014, 01:28:30 PM
Why? Within a season he will have been pardewed.

No excitement for the upcoming season whatsoever. Obols the pressure against the manager continues from game one.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 14, 2014, 12:09:17 AM
Cabella signed finally


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 14, 2014, 06:38:57 PM
Have it on good authority that Newcastle just bid 10.5m for Andy Carroll. Everything has been so quiet regarding transfers, this would be very interesting!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 15, 2014, 08:44:43 AM
Janmaat looks likely to sign today, reasonably happy with him as a replacement for debuchy


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 16, 2014, 09:48:56 AM
Janmaat signed yesterday, de Jong scored a screamer on his debut, and we've got another player having a medical today, Monaco striker Riviere. Don't know about the last guy but quite happy with this summer compared to recent ones. Wouldn't mind a centre back and offloading cisse so pardew doesn't have the option of picking him


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on July 18, 2014, 01:39:09 AM
Excellent signings so far and early in the window is a big bonus, before clubs have you over a barrel. Looks like Carr has been given a bit of slack to get the right players sorted. Still need another forward and a CB as a bare minimum (someone young would be decent but championship teams have had their crack pipes out during negotiations), but for the first season in a long time its been a good job alround, including the prices we have paid.

It is also nice for the toon to not have a hugely coveted asset so there wont be any real reason for their team to get any weaker.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 18, 2014, 01:45:22 AM
Agree with all of that.

I can't see a reason to not go for Caulker ? I'd say he is close in quality to the best we could attract and is young so fits the mould of players we look at.

No idea regards a proven Striker though, although as an additional Striker to the main one we need I see no reason not to buy Frazier Campbell with a 1m release clause, seems an absolute steal.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on July 18, 2014, 02:21:44 AM
Agree with all of that.

I can't see a reason to not go for Caulker ? I'd say he is close in quality to the best we could attract and is young so fits the mould of players we look at.

No idea regards a proven Striker though, although as an additional Striker to the main one we need I see no reason not to buy Frazier Campbell with a 1m release clause, seems an absolute steal.

Hold on there a minute. Those are Palace's plans for both.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on July 18, 2014, 02:26:28 AM
Agree with all of that.

I can't see a reason to not go for Caulker ? I'd say he is close in quality to the best we could attract and is young so fits the mould of players we look at.

No idea regards a proven Striker though, although as an additional Striker to the main one we need I see no reason not to buy Frazier Campbell with a 1m release clause, seems an absolute steal.

Both would be decent lines but think caulkers wage offers from other clubs will probably be their selling point and we will miss out. If theres any possibility tho in a team of question marks he seems a cert.

Because we have riviere whos goal record hasnt always inspired it would be good if we signed someone like campbell to take the pressure off. If the clause is accurate and he isnt a big time charlie with wages it looks like a no brainer.

lol @ toon fans discussing the next option after 5 well thought out buys instead of angrily replying to sign "someone, ANYONE".


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 18, 2014, 05:49:56 AM
Agree with this...



Signing players is great fun isn’t it? So much so that you may even elevate it to something it isn’t, maybe even praise those that have so often failed you in the past for simply doing what needs to be done.

Opinions of Cabella are all positive and his signing looks to be the perfect choice to fill the ever widening hole left by love him or hate him Ben Arfa, and the young Dutch right back is rated highly by my Feyenoord mates from Cabras Feliz, so you know, there’s that. The Colback kerfuffle of whether we tried to offload him to West Ham is irrelevant now, as is his hand gesture during the Derby. I’d prefer that from a player than refusing to celebrate. Remember that chap from Norwich who refused to celebrate against Villa because he nearly signed for them once, now there’s a man going places, born winner that one. As for Ayoze, we’ll see. Check out this on inbedwithmaradona about the lad, and if that doesn’t add intrigue to him it might help those keen to pretend they watch the Spanish second division.

So the story so far all seems quite promising what with the expected addition of another striker or two….but get those horses held.

The manager. He of back-patting-himself-off fame. He who has managed to lose over 50% of his matches as Newcastle manager in four years. He who has managed to lose a higher percentage of games than everyone else in English football other than Stevenage and Fulham in that time. It begs that age-old question of How s*** does one have to be before someone thinks, you know, he might be a bit s***.

We’ve been here before with signings. The summer before we finished fifth we signed Cabaye for a fantastically low sum which was a great deal.  Mourinho’s hyperbolically adored Santon for not much more. We nicked Marveaux from under the noses of Liverpool which was sneakily impressive. Demba Ba for nowt, and a January signing to top all January signings when Cisse made the number 9 his own. And Gabriel Obertan.

No prizes for guessing what point I’m making with that list.

Since then we’ve also seen a highly rated, young, league winning captain centre back come from France and play less than half his games in his rightful position. He now looks destined to leave, a reputation in tatters, and some forgetting that the older Coloccini was much worse in his first season. Hell, he might have been worse last season.

So when I see myself and others being labelled negative during these hedonistic days, I find it difficult to not immediately judge the upbringing of those more chipper than I. Creative signings and goalscorers excite people more than any other position so it’s only natural for optimism to build for those still with a glimmer of hope. But for me it’s not negativity, I just can’t look past the failings, excuses, and active pursuit of mediocrity that we’ve endured over these last few years.

We needed to buy players, we had to buy to stay where we are because that squad from last year would have been relegated were it not for one two month period. The problem is that signing anybody has become so alien to us that it has diluted the rationale that we simply had to do it. The fact that they appear to be good deals and good players is not a surprise here, we’ve done that before. So praise for a managing director that was a big part of the team that didn’t sign anyone for 18 months seems utterly bonkers to me. They are doing what needs to be done to fix the mess they created and the fact they seem quite good at it is even more irritating when put up against that barren spell.

I’m struggling to get excited for the new season and they’ve done that, it’s not some negative badge of honour I sadistically write on these pages. It’s that I can’t enjoy what should be an exciting time because the old dogs are still there, still wanting to not win trophies, still not wanting the burden of Europe.

Believe it or not I write a lot more miserably than I feel; I think it’s called a high horse or a soapbox or something, and it’s often fuelled by other opinions, beer, or the local press, particularly those feeling justified that we’ve signed some players after they said we would. Falling into the trap of thinking that being right once holds enough weight to balance the prolonged period of wrong. But scales don’t work like that, for a journalist or a manager.

So forgive me while I merely look on with intrigue at the comings and goings at our club, neither furious nor thrilled, but through sceptical geps, hindsight trumps hope.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on July 18, 2014, 12:07:29 PM
Why do Newcastle fans think this kind of drivel is constructive or informative. Do they think they are educating anyone?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on July 18, 2014, 02:53:11 PM
Why do Newcastle fans think this kind of drivel is constructive or informative. Do they think they are educating anyone?

Your screen name funny. It's bollocks.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on July 18, 2014, 03:08:54 PM
we had all this last year.  newcastle finish 8th in the league (or 9th) or whatever it is (ie finish pretty much where they should finish).  They think they are a top x club even though there is nothing to suggest they are looking at numerous parameters (financial/trophies won etc etc).  It just goes round in circles.  Then we move onto the Liverpool thread and rinse/repeat.  Dont worry icles its standard stuff.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 18, 2014, 03:35:56 PM
Lol

We don't think we ARE a big club we think we SHOULD be because we CAN be. We're the only team to have played in the champions league that is English that you would describe as not a big club. We set a world record transfer fee over 15 years ago that would still be considered huge money right now. We have a huge fan base, great stadium etc etc


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: GreekStein on July 18, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
Rooky9 last posted in 2012. wtf


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on July 18, 2014, 04:39:38 PM
Lol

We don't think we ARE a big club we think we SHOULD be because we CAN be. We're the only team to have played in the champions league that is English that you would describe as not a big club. We set a world record transfer fee over 15 years ago that would still be considered huge money right now. We have a huge fan base, great stadium etc etc

Blackburn all over this post


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 18, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
We've been in Europe 13 times since 1990..


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on July 18, 2014, 04:49:49 PM
We've been in Europe 13 times since 1990..

We sound like overachievers


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on July 19, 2014, 10:05:42 AM
We've been in Europe 13 times since 1990..

So have likes of Cork City etc.

Club with potential however never really done anything in the last 50 years.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 19, 2014, 12:49:00 PM
Very nice touch from Sunderland fans for the two Newcastle fans who died travelling to our friendly in New Zealand on the Malaysia flight that was reportedly shot down, huge respect to them!

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/floral-tribute-for-the-newcastle-lads.943399/

RIP


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on July 19, 2014, 12:55:24 PM
Quite incredible how they set up a just giving page to cover the cost of the flowers on that Sunderland forum for £100 and ended up raising over £6k.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 19, 2014, 01:20:04 PM
Quite incredible how they set up a just giving page to cover the cost of the flowers on that Sunderland forum for £100 and ended up raising over £6k.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on July 29, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
could someone take a stab at the starting line up for Aug 16th please?


                     krul

janmaat colocinni Yanga-Mbiwa  santon

           tiote sissoko

  de jong ben arfa gouffran

               cisse


something like that?

thanks


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 29, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
no it shouldnt looks like that


           krul


janmaat colocini williamson haidara

        tiote colback


cabella de jong gouffran

      new striker /rivierre


cabella was 12m, and 12m for ashley is really a lot so will 100% play.

ben arfa is out of the picture, training with the under 18s :(

santon is injured, haidara is left footed so more balance and is good

colback will probably play because he is elft footed and gives balance and is "steady"

mbwia is currently second fiddle to williamson and is likely to leave to france

cisee is injured but signing rivierre from monaco means he will play.


its likely we will add 2 more player. a new centre half to replace mbwia and will slot in next to colocini and a new striker, potentially remy on loan or somebody else for around 10m.





Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 29, 2014, 06:26:54 PM
I reckon hba is around 1% to start a game all season.

Colback and tiote most certainly starting infront of defence

Cabella dejong both 100% plus either sissoko/goufrann

New striker upfront with rivière first choice sub


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on July 29, 2014, 06:41:43 PM
back up would be

gk rob elliot


df

steven taylor
mbwia
ryan taylor
shane ferguson
santon


mf

ben arfa
anita
guttierez

fwd

rivierre
cisse





Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 29, 2014, 06:58:05 PM
Hasn't Gutierrez left ? Rolando Aaron's who's come through youth has featured quite abit during pre season and had some good write ups, hoping he gets a chance to play this season.

Must buy a striker and a centre back, collocini doesn't fill me with the confidence he did 3 seasons ago


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on July 30, 2014, 03:26:52 AM
no it shouldnt looks like that


           krul


janmaat colocini williamson haidara

        tiote colback


cabella de jong gouffran

      new striker /rivierre


cabella was 12m, and 12m for ashley is really a lot so will 100% play.

ben arfa is out of the picture, training with the under 18s :(

santon is injured, haidara is left footed so more balance and is good

colback will probably play because he is elft footed and gives balance and is "steady"

mbwia is currently second fiddle to williamson and is likely to leave to france

cisee is injured but signing rivierre from monaco means he will play.


its likely we will add 2 more player. a new centre half to replace mbwia and will slot in next to colocini and a new striker, potentially remy on loan or somebody else for around 10m.





This and dont think and other striker will play unless they are a marquis signing as they wouldnt have played much with the team.

I cant imagine HBA will even make the bench the way hes being treated atm. Think he may leave before window close potentially on loan.

Just to translate colback will start because pardew is so negative.

Haidara would be the only question mark as pardew is prone to examples of randomness.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on July 30, 2014, 03:29:06 AM
Hasn't Gutierrez left ? Rolando Aaron's who's come through youth has featured quite abit during pre season and had some good write ups, hoping he gets a chance to play this season.

Must buy a striker and a centre back, collocini doesn't fill me with the confidence he did 3 seasons ago

Please but starting to get the impression theyve played their cards and only signings will be bargains/frees. From a business point of  view Id buy a decent number 9, it would be the best way to pacify the fans.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on July 31, 2014, 09:11:01 AM
We desperately need a CB and a striker.

Don't be fooled by the signings either. The club have done the bare minimum. As the article pleno posted suggests wed be relegated if we hadn't.

We haven't actually spent any money either. The signings are all covered from the Cabaye/Debuchy sales.

It's all pointless anyway whilst we have the absolute cretin that is Alan Pardew in charge. No doubt within a few games he will be playing his new signings out of position, telling them not to attack and track back, hoof the ball up field, etc. the usual shite we've come to expect from him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 01, 2014, 07:58:55 PM
Got this guy on loan with a view to sign for the season http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facundo_Ferreyra


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 10, 2014, 04:19:04 PM
Pretty excited for new season, wether I'll feel same in a few month I dunno, just got tickets for city game, anyone else going, ray ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 10, 2014, 04:47:40 PM
Pretty excited for new season, wether I'll feel same in a few month I dunno, just got tickets for city game, anyone else going, ray ?

Not there :( Enjoy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 10, 2014, 09:41:19 PM
Genuinely don't get why anyone would feel excited whilst Pardew is still in charge.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 10, 2014, 11:03:07 PM
Prem season in general really, not expecting us to be top 6 or anything lol. Think we will fair better than last season


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 12, 2014, 01:34:04 PM
Apparently we're happy with 48 points this season:

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9418313/pardew-sets-points-target?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 12, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Which incidentally is less points than we had last season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on August 17, 2014, 06:11:17 PM
Pretty decent performance from the toon I though. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on August 17, 2014, 06:17:50 PM
Pretty decent performance from the toon I though. 

Ha, was just about to bump the thread to say the same.

Think they're in for a much better season this year if that's anything to go by.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 17, 2014, 06:42:15 PM
It was an encouraging performance. I like the look of Cabella and was pleasantly surprised by Colback. Would be interested in seeing Riviere and Perez on together as Riviere looked promising but had pretty much no support.

Taking Anita off for Obertan was a baffling change as the Alan Pardew substitution lottery continues.

Dummet and Gouffran offer nothing and Collocini is looking a bit past it these days. I'd much rather see a Williamson/MYM combo at the back. I think MYM was injured hence not even on the bench.

We can only hope Pardew lets us play an attacking game. And Sissoko needs to stay in CM rather than being put out on the wing like most of last season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 17, 2014, 06:46:30 PM
Fuck off Pardew.

"We brought a couple of youngsters on who were a bit naive at times."

 Stop criticizing your players. Oh and he's STILL playing the Cabaye card.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 17, 2014, 06:47:23 PM
it made me feel even worse about things to be honest.

we spend all this money and that is all we have to offer offensively? riveiere wouldnt have scored if we played for a week. Gouffran and Sissoko not good enough and we have Paul Dummett as our left back.

Worst of all when we need creativity and something to get us a goal, Aarons and Obertan come on and HBA isnt in the squad, total joke and pretty sickening that Pardews ego allows this.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 17, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
                    Krul

Janmaat   Williamson   MYM   Haidara

              Anita  Sissoko

HBA            de Jong         Cabella

                 New Striker


Something like that IMO. I'd love to see that attacking 3 but HBA isn't getting anywhere near the team with Pardew in charge.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 17, 2014, 07:20:47 PM
tbf colback showed today what weve been missing for a long time, gives us a lot of balance not just with left foot but no errors, good set pieces and works hard.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 17, 2014, 07:21:32 PM
santon left back too


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 17, 2014, 07:31:43 PM
Based on today I wouldn't object to swapping Sissoko for Colback but I think Sissoko would offer more going forward.

Never been fully sold on Santon. Isn't he still injured for a while anyway?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 17, 2014, 08:00:13 PM
When Obertan comes on as your first sub, and HBA isn't even on the bench when he's fit, your failing as a manager.

Don't want to judge players on one performance but confirmed we desperately need a Striker, excited about watching Cabella for 12 months though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 17, 2014, 08:23:07 PM
Based on today I wouldn't object to swapping Sissoko for Colback but I think Sissoko would offer more going forward.

Never been fully sold on Santon. Isn't he still injured for a while anyway?

sissoko cant pass, shoot or cross, colback can cross/shot so think even he offers more attacking wise


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 17, 2014, 09:14:13 PM
Based on today I wouldn't object to swapping Sissoko for Colback but I think Sissoko would offer more going forward.

Never been fully sold on Santon. Isn't he still injured for a while anyway?

sissoko cant pass, shoot or cross, colback can cross/shot so think even he offers more attacking wise

He looked a totally different player at the World Cup, been pretty awful for us since basically his 3rd game for the club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 18, 2014, 12:13:03 AM
The we played well today.

Colback was incred and defo our best player. Defo need a new striker, rivière battles well and is v strong but needs improving. Aaron's has looked v decent, it's pretty tough to make your debut vs the champions, I think he will be a good impact sub this season, it's a shame hba has been frozen out of the squad , him de Jong and cabella playing behind a striker would've been v tasty. Sissoko much better in the centre but his end product was terrible at times today. Defo haidara > dummet and santon


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 18, 2014, 03:39:57 AM
0 shots on target..

good improvement pards.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 18, 2014, 09:24:43 AM
I'd like to see Sissoko get a proper run in CM. It is his position after all. Pardew has had him out on the wings. Even yesterday we still had Gouffran out there who really shouldn't be in the starting XI.

Gee, if only we had a natural winger we could select....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on August 18, 2014, 11:05:52 AM
Can't believe you guys are ditching Riveiere after one game.  Thought he looked lively if a little raw.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 18, 2014, 12:06:10 PM
We're not. But he's so far in his career not shown himself to be a 30 goals a season striker and that's what we desperately need. It's currently hard to see where our goals are going to come from.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on August 18, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
Proven 30 goal a season striker?  For top division that costs about £50 million these days!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 18, 2014, 01:04:35 PM
Maybe not 30 goals lol but you get the idea.

Essentially someone like Remy.

Cisse presumably was supposed to be this but was beyond useless last season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on August 18, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Why don't they just go and buy Remy?  I was wondering this over the summer.  He's obviously available given that the Liverpool deal nearly went through.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 18, 2014, 01:45:25 PM
Why don't they just go and buy Remy?  I was wondering this over the summer.  He's obviously available given that the Liverpool deal nearly went through.

That would involve spending money.

Don't be fooled by the amount of headlines saying "Mike Ashley has got his wallet out" and similar. Our transfers are all but covered by the Debuchy/Cabaye sales.

Quite where the TV money has gone is anyone's guess.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 18, 2014, 02:22:22 PM
Why don't they just go and buy Remy?  I was wondering this over the summer.  He's obviously available given that the Liverpool deal nearly went through.

Remy has a clause in his contract that they had to accept 8.5m from a club in the CL, would cost us more and he's on like 100k at QPR, gl him getting anywhere near that here, which I wouldn't give him neither.

Problem is I can't think of one striker I want that we could actually get.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on August 18, 2014, 03:32:35 PM
Mike increasing his shares in Rangers yous might end up with Kris Boyd. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 20, 2014, 05:33:53 AM
I really like Jack Colback and was gutted when he left Sunderland. He has an awesome engine and alongside tiote would make perfect sense to have HBA play a free roll where he doesnt have to track back.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 20, 2014, 09:24:00 AM
I really like Jack Colback and was gutted when he left Sunderland. He has an awesome engine and alongside tiote would make perfect sense to have HBA play a free roll where he doesnt have to track back.

Just you wait. Before long players like Cabella and De Jong will be tracking back and never really being forward where they're supposed to be under the moron we have in charge.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 23, 2014, 12:57:49 PM
Pretty fkin brutal to drop Aaron's out of the squad and leave obertan in, decent way to knock the kids confidence. Anyway, hoping de Jong gets half hour or so today, pretty important game so early in season


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 23, 2014, 03:03:31 PM
Good lord that was shambolic. We can't even score a goal against Aston Villa.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 23, 2014, 03:05:10 PM
it was a decent point

for as long as Vlaar marshalls that defence, it will be tough to penetrate.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 23, 2014, 03:19:21 PM
Were the worst. Told Picken pre kick off would almost certainly be 0-0

You should be able to penetrate a defence that has keiran Richardson protecting it tighty!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 23, 2014, 03:56:12 PM
According to Pardew we need to threaten the goal with goals.

Muppet.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 23, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
I dont understand what sissoko and gouffran offer the team or what their roles are.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 23, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
Sissoko is good at driving the team forward when he gets the ball. Gouffran may as well just not be there.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on August 28, 2014, 12:21:00 PM
Colback in the England squad..


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 30, 2014, 05:55:10 PM
7 minutes added on for what it seems like absolutely no reason, they equalise in the 95min, sighhhhh!



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 01, 2014, 07:53:39 AM
Centre back and a striker today please, that's all


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 01, 2014, 08:31:43 AM
Centre back and a striker today please, that's all

Haha yeah right.

They're currently trying to ship out MYM.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 01, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
I'll be very surprised if we sign anybody.

Not really that bothered if Tiote goes, think we should've give Mbiwa more of a chance though, King Mike locked him out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 01, 2014, 11:03:11 AM
Yea need to let players go to even stand a chance of signing people, would happily sell tiote for £8m-£10m to sign someone in a position we need. Depressing watching everyone make last minute transfers, not even exciting transfer deadline day for us ha, I know we've signed 9, but some been loaned back and some too young/inexperienced atm. We can hope ..


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 01, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Does ashley not just think "hey champions league team just took our 4th choice cb, maybe our manager doesn't have a clue?" #disgrace


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 01, 2014, 03:26:39 PM
Yeah the whole thing is moronic.

The one good thing is we paid more for him than we're going to get. Maybe he'll at least take note of that.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 01, 2014, 09:41:52 PM
Ben arfa getting loaned out with 1 year left on contract, yea okay. Makes sense


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 01, 2014, 09:43:23 PM
Hull!? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Can seriously see us in danger of relegation this season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 02, 2014, 08:51:21 AM
So given the loan fees we've received I think that puts us break even on transfers. So it's now a few years since we've actually spent money.

The most important thing we needed was a cb. Instead we sold our most promising one.

The side is in desperate need of a striker and some creativity. Nope no striker and let's well HBA. No doubt we'll get the "like a new signing" nonsense when cisse comes back from injury.

And I bet you there's still people out there who think this has been a good window for us.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 05, 2014, 07:51:23 AM
De Jong out for 4 months apparently, fk sake


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 05, 2014, 08:40:21 AM
Luckily we have another number 10 to come back into the first team. Oh, wait...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 05, 2014, 08:42:43 AM
(And yes I'm aware HBA doesn't really play the no 10 role but that was his shirt number so my point stands)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 05, 2014, 05:12:44 PM
(And yes I'm aware HBA doesn't really play the no 10 role but that was his shirt number so my point stands)

Both hba and marveux would both have been fine number 10s

Loaning them both out as well as mbwia is literally insane.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 05, 2014, 05:58:42 PM
De Jong out for upto 4 months, marv.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 05, 2014, 08:58:23 PM
ben arfa out for 9 months.. FFFFFSSS


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 06, 2014, 11:42:34 AM
I think Aaron's on left sissoko behind striker and cabella on the right would be the obvious 3 to play behind rivière, but pardew being pardew will play goufrann who's useless  and obertan who... Well less said about him the better


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 13, 2014, 05:07:33 PM
He seriously needs to fuck off. We're genuinely going to get relegated if this is allowed to continue.

We're 3-0 down against Southampton and are absolutely woeful. Southampton haven't even played particularly well and had a stone wall penalty not given.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on September 13, 2014, 05:22:04 PM
Hopefully thats enough for him to get the boot, noone needs to see another game to realise hes incompetent


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 17, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
talks of 20,000!!!!! banners for sack pardew coming on saturdays match..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODVeSUSNsQ

www.sackpardew.com


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 19, 2014, 02:10:38 PM
Pardew really is such a joker.

Accusing the fans of Mass Hysteria, O rly!

Lost 15/23 Lge games this year, only won 1 in 12. He's embarrassed the club on numerous occasions be it headbutting a player, calling a fellow manager a ***** etc etc.

Things won't change much with a different manager, but it's close to impossible to replace him with someone as dislikeable a man as Pardew is.

Unlike many others though I still believe he is going nowhere anytime soon, geeg.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 19, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
No way he gets fired but he will be hounded out by the fans. He won't be able to manage anymore. He already can't stand up without a riot starting so literally cannot manage the team during the games.

He will hopefully walk by Monday.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 19, 2014, 02:55:24 PM
No way he gets fired but he will be hounded out by the fans. He won't be able to manage anymore. He already can't stand up without a riot starting so literally cannot manage the team during the games.

He will hopefully walk by Monday.

He's never walking, ever.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 19, 2014, 03:55:21 PM
They're at a standoff. Pardew wants the payoff money. Ashley doesn't want to give it him.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on September 19, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
They're at a standoff. Pardew wants the payoff money. Ashley doesn't want to give it him.

Pardew inevitably wins that battle. Unless of course he turns things around sharpish.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 20, 2014, 11:22:03 AM
They're at a standoff. Pardew wants the payoff money. Ashley doesn't want to give it him.

Pardew inevitably wins that battle. Unless of course he turns things around sharpish.

lol. We've had 4 years to show that he certainly can't.

Today's game is going to be awesome.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on September 30, 2014, 12:13:03 PM
What's going on with Pardew lads - on the way out after last night?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 30, 2014, 12:13:49 PM
What's going on with Pardew lads - on the way out after last night?



http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/20876/9496155/premier-league-alan-pardews-job-as-newcastle-manager-remains-safe-for-now


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on September 30, 2014, 12:18:41 PM
Oh dear.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on September 30, 2014, 12:27:45 PM
Oh dear.



Hardly the worst result last night losing away 1-0 to a top ten side.  They were expected to lose last night. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 30, 2014, 12:33:04 PM
Taking a striker off at 0-1 down is such a bad decision, he was scared to lose the game by more as he knew a hammering meant gg.

Buying Cabella for 12m and sending hba on loan is the worst decision any manager has ever made at the club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on September 30, 2014, 01:20:47 PM
Oh dear.



Hardly the worst result last night losing away 1-0 to a top ten side.  They were expected to lose last night. 

Might squeak 10th, but realistically a 11th to 15th place side.  When a manager is under pressure, losing meekly to another also ran is not what the doctor ordered imo! 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on September 30, 2014, 01:25:30 PM
haha - just noticed your row with Pleno in the other thread.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on September 30, 2014, 01:42:05 PM
no row.  I state facts.  Deluded fan boys can't see the wood for the trees.  Same old, same old!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: baldock92 on September 30, 2014, 02:10:04 PM
You could have easily got a point against us yesterday seeing as we couldn't finish our chances, awful miss by Colback.

On another note, much respect to the toon fans who gave a good round of applause to Neil "Nello" Baldwin our old kitman when he was introduced.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 30, 2014, 02:55:56 PM
no row.  I state facts.  Deluded fan boys can't see the wood for the trees.  Same old, same old!

I'm not deluded. I think we're awful, have an awful manager and an unambitious chairman.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 30, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
Taking a striker off at 0-1 down is such a bad decision, he was scared to lose the game by more as he knew a hammering meant gg.

Buying Cabella for 12m and sending hba on loan is the worst decision any manager has ever made at the club.

I think shipping off MYM to Roma and leaving us with 3 CBs of Colo/Williamson/Taylor is probably in some ways even worse.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on September 30, 2014, 04:00:37 PM
no row.  I state facts.  Deluded fan boys can't see the wood for the trees.  Same old, same old!

I'm not deluded. I think we're awful, have an awful manager and an unambitious chairman.

he will be at rangers soon to turn them around.  He likes buying at the bottom of the market.  Which gaffer would you like?  I was talking to some stoke fans last night who said Pulis would be a good fit for Newcastle but not sure the Newcastle fans would think he was big enough for their club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on September 30, 2014, 04:05:58 PM
Pulis would be tremendous.

Sort out anybody who wouldn't put 100% in right away, fix the defence


a) too far from Dorset for him

b) wouldn't get on with Ashley, particularly on transfers, and who has the say on them

c) Newcastle fans think they are a bigger club than they are, in the current premier league. i don't mean that nastily but the ambition should be to consolidate in the league, no higher, for the time being. a bottom ten side not a top ten side so no different from Palace, west ham, hull, sunderland etc


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 30, 2014, 04:22:18 PM
Pulis would be tremendous.

Sort out anybody who wouldn't put 100% in right away, fix the defence


a) too far from Dorset for him

b) wouldn't get on with Ashley, particularly on transfers, and who has the say on them

c) Newcastle fans think they are a bigger club than they are, in the current premier league. i don't mean that nastily but the ambition should be to consolidate in the league, no higher, for the time being. a bottom ten side not a top ten side so no different from Palace, west ham, hull, sunderland etc

Since you are a normal human being capable of having a discussion for the single purpose of actually just discussing the point in hand, can you tell me please how you have this information that Newcastle fans think they are a bigger club than they are ? We've all been categorized as one otherwise you'd have said some but that's fine we can just ignore that as I'd really like to find out from you how you know this ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on September 30, 2014, 04:25:52 PM
It's my sense from seeing a lot of comments from Newcastle fans. Big history, big ground, big fan-base but the belief that this should translate into an almost "natural" place at the top end of things, which is now a long time ago

Not every fan, but many. Happens with a lot of clubs who aren't repeating former glories too. The fan base gets a superiority complex  

my point, i think, is that Pulis would be ideal for a bottom half Premier League side

I would guess that many Newcastle fans would want a higher profile, sexier, bigger name commensurate with their idea of the club's status in the English game


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 30, 2014, 04:56:37 PM
It's my sense from seeing a lot of comments from Newcastle fans. Big history, big ground, big fan-base but the belief that this should translate into an almost "natural" place at the top end of things, which is now a long time ago

Not every fan, but many. Happens with a lot of clubs who aren't repeating former glories too. The fan base gets a superiority complex  

my point, i think, is that Pulis would be ideal for a bottom half Premier League side

I would guess that many Newcastle fans would want a higher profile, sexier, bigger name commensurate with their idea of the club's status in the English game

I've posted about this on here before and I expect everyone to carry on making this same point but it's just not true, lazy journalists, mostly from the London press, keep printing this same lazy statement and people just lap it up time after time. Do we have fans that expect much more than what is realistic, 100%, are we any different to every other club in the country who also does have, no.

What former glories lolz, if your referring to comments from Newcastle fans on blonde, how many of us were even born when we last won anything, not many that's for sure.

If 10 blondes on here all have no clue about football and say we should be buying Messi etc etc, then Sky finds a few morons to make ludicrous statements on deadline day or when our manager is sacked, does that give you enough of a true representation for you to make an assessment on Newcastle fans overall ? That seems pretty silly to me.

The vast majority of us who are passionate about the club and are true supporters who actually genuinely care know exactly were we are :

- We are miles off the top 6, and Everton, we can finish in any of the other 13 postions.
- Sacking Pardew won't achieve very much, but he's so disliked, and for very valid reasons, that most would be happy to see the back of him.
- Due to the fact we can fill a 50k+ seater stadium, etc etc zzzzzzzz we believe we have the potential to be a bigger club than those we are competing with.
- We see no reason why the club can't make a genuine effort at a cup run as well as sustain our position as a mediocre Premier League team.
- No "high profile, big name" manager will be interested in taking the job on if Pardew is sacked.

I could go on and on but since I expect not one person to stop with the Newcastle fans are all delusional idiots who expect to do the treble and spend 500m on players then I'll just leave it at that.

Who cares that it's not really true though right, just like all Gypsies are x and all Muslims are y, all Newcastle fans think they are a bigger club than what they are, are completely delusional, just daft Geordies innit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on September 30, 2014, 05:05:19 PM
How many teams in europe sell out 52k or more every single wrek? Every single one of these teams will be considerred a big club, so why arnt newcastle a big club?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on September 30, 2014, 05:05:47 PM
Personally I suspect Newcastle are one of the biggest clubs in the country.  The city centre stadium is amazing, but theoretically what size stadium would they fill if size was no object?  If it's 50k a week under old Pardew, I imagine potential is significant if they had a top 4 team.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 30, 2014, 05:26:44 PM
c) Newcastle fans think they are a bigger club than they are, in the current premier league. i don't mean that nastily but the ambition should be to consolidate in the league, no higher, for the time being. a bottom ten side not a top ten side so no different from Palace, west ham, hull, sunderland etc

This sort of comment really annoys me.

No Newcastle fan expect us to be in the top 4. Simply isn't going to happen any time soon.

What we do expect is to be comfortably in the top 10 at least making some sort of effort to push for a european place and have a good run at the cups.

As much as we all dislike some things about the club there are some things we to an extent do right that should help facilitate this. Carr brings in some excellent players on the cheap, we run at a profit, etc. But as much as everyone posts "Newcastle spent well this summer" - We didn't. We spent the money we recouped from transfers. What happened to the £40m TV money? We desperately needed a centre back and a proven striker. We got neither. We spent the minimum amount neccesary that Ashley thought would see us survive in the league. That's not even consolidating never mind pushing on.

The 5th place finish again shows this lack of ambition. The 5th itself was a complete fluke as Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Ba were in the form of their lives. But this was the time to put some money in and consolidate that position. We signed 1 player, who the manager doesn't even play. The club had no intention of spending money when it felt there was no need to unless Premiership survival was at risk.

And then there's Alan Pardew who is just completely inept. I'm gonna bring up MYM who a lot won't even know who he is. But let's put it this way: under AP he couldn't even get into the team ahead of Colo/Williamson/Taylor, the latter two who frankly shouldn't even be playing in this league. So we loan him off to Roma and reportedly still pay 80% of his wages. He will most likely be playing tonight in the champions league against Man City. And in Pardew's eyes he can't get in the team ahead of the above 3. Seriously?

Also: Tevez, Ben Arfa, Mascherano, etc...

Oh Ben Arfa was a good one last night. In his post match interview he said we needed someone up the top of the field who was creative and would have a go at opposition defenses, Well why did you loan that player to Hull you prick.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on September 30, 2014, 05:50:33 PM
Perhaps I am not making my point properly

Newcastle are of course a big club, in the same way that Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday are

in terms of fan base, stadia, heritage. This will never change

Where none of these clubs are currently big clubs is on the field in performances and prospects

cf states "What we do expect is to be comfortably in the top 10 at least "

I think this is probably unrealistic with this squad and the ambitions of the chairman are not consistent with that.

Again, i don't mean any offence.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 30, 2014, 06:29:33 PM
The point isn't about whether we are or aren't a big club, everyone has there own criteria for how to judge that, at the end of the day we've achieved nothing of note for a very long time and nothing else really matters. My point is that I find it hugely frustrating keep being told what all Newcastle fans think by fans of other clubs because clueless media outlets/persons who don't care whether what they actually write/speak of is the truth or not as they know we are an easy target to have a pop at and it seems like most of the rest of the country for some reason decides to believe it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on September 30, 2014, 06:36:31 PM
fwiw i think Newcastle fans should be expecting their team to comfortably finish in the top half every season in the current make up of the EPL.  The top 6 are locks (everton close to locks) then 3 spaces left.  I think Newcastle fans have every right to expect to finish in one of those 3 spots most seasons.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on September 30, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
lol tighty...

with a very similar group of players we finished 5th and nearly got a champions league spot. we had a good run in europe and narrowly got knocked out by a great benfica team.

we had a great, great opportunity to push on because we had the support/groud etc to help us financially and get a bigger squad.

instead of buying 3-4 new players and pushing to consolidate as a top 5/6 team we sold Ba, Cabaye, loaned out mbwia to Roma to play in the champions league and loaned our best player to Hull City. We didnt add to our defence, we replaced Debuchy with a way worse replacement and replaced Cabaye with a guy who struggled to get in Sunderlands team.


This is not delusion, we were close, we were very close, but our manager mismanaged and our chairman was unambitious.

There is absolutely 0 reason that Everton should be more successful than Newcastle United, the main difference is the manager.

So titing being branded brain-dead fans, its ridiculous. 



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
From the same person who less than a year ago was telling me Mike Williamson should be in the England squad and was top class.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 01, 2014, 10:39:36 AM
Williamson and mbwia were our best partnership by a mile both jn terms of performances and results.

We have a captain who doesn't lead by example, a right back who isn't as good as who we had last year and a talentless left back who plays because he's a Geordie.

We play a French international central midfielder as a defensive winger and a proven goalscorer as a defensive left winger when we can't score.

We continue with 2 holding midfielders whenever we are losing and our two most creative players marveux and hba are on loan.

These are all managerial decisions which are beyond a joke.

I was going to speak about Martinez but I guess he plays Lukaku on the wing so I won't let people bite!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
Ill leave Tighty to it i think



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on October 01, 2014, 10:43:27 AM
Ill leave Tighty to it i think



no thanks!



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 01, 2014, 11:13:08 AM
I'm not sure what you deny though?

- we finished 5th in 2012
- we had he foundations to cement ourselves as a top 6 team like spurs are right now
- we sold our best players
- we replaced them with far inferior ones
- our manga get has gone from manager of the year to repeatedly making very questionable decisions
- our 2 most creative players are currently out on loan whilst we can't score a goal to save our life
- out 4th choice centre half is on loan playing in the champions league for Roma against man city
- our captain refused to play for the club for a spell of time and now demands who plays and doesn't play
- our board came out to say they have no interest in being successful in cup competitions
- our manager head butted a player on the pitch
-  we constantly underperform against rival clubs
- we have won 5 matches in 2014
- we have the worst record in English football in 2014
- we don't just get beat we get thrashed, our players often simply give up at 2-0

I could go on all day rattling off why we should be unhappy. It's ridiculous how much stick we get for being unhappy. We are undoubtedly the biggest team in England/perhaps the world! To last win a trophy.

What exactly will you leave to tighty?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 01, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
Tiote has came out today to confirm he wants to leave the club.

Pardew well and truly lost his dressing room.

This is the manager who not only didn't want mbwia or hba in ir around he team but did the same as west jam with mascherano and tevez a lot of the time.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 01, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
Tiote is the only player we have who gives any sort of leadership on the pitch. He's essentially the captain. God knows why Coloccini still has it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on October 01, 2014, 12:06:40 PM
Geordies SEETHING.

:)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on October 01, 2014, 12:09:57 PM
Tiote has came out today to confirm he wants to leave the club.

Pardew well and truly lost his dressing room.

This is the manager who not only didn't want mbwia or hba in ir around he team but did the same as west jam with mascherano and tevez a lot of the time.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2774654/Newcastle-ace-Cheick-Tiote-defends-decision-two-wives-AND-mistress.html

Needs a new club as he has run out of Geordie birds to add to his list of potential wifes!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on October 01, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
Tiote has came out today to confirm he wants to leave the club.

Pardew well and truly lost his dressing room.

This is the manager who not only didn't want mbwia or hba in ir around he team but did the same as west jam with mascherano and tevez a lot of the time.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2774654/Newcastle-ace-Cheick-Tiote-defends-decision-two-wives-AND-mistress.html

Needs a new club as he has run out of Geordie birds to add to his list of potential wifes!

Living the dream :D



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on October 01, 2014, 12:24:30 PM
It seems to me that whilst Ashley still isn't popular the ire has turned on Pardew now.  I seem to remember at one point that it was basically unsafe for Ashley to visit St James Park.  Has that all passed now and he is basically accepted or is the general opinion still that everyone wants him out?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 01, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
It seems to me that whilst Ashley still isn't popular the ire has turned on Pardew now.  I seem to remember at one point that it was basically unsafe for Ashley to visit St James Park.  Has that all passed now and he is basically accepted or is the general opinion still that everyone wants him out?

He is still just as unpopular, the fans have had to accept that he's clearly going nowhere. As I said, Pardew is only a small part of the problem, that's the general view I get from most fans I speak to.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: redarmi on October 02, 2014, 05:19:21 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/02/alan-pardew-newcastle-manager-survival?commentpage=1 (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/02/alan-pardew-newcastle-manager-survival?commentpage=1)

Thought this was an interesting piece.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 02, 2014, 05:54:17 PM
Loic Remy was never our player and never seemed likely to be a permanent signing so Pardew had a full year (he had longer really since Carroll was never replaced but anyways) to find a replacement for a loan signing who was a stop gap. Similarly he knew Cabaye was going in January since he was close to leaving the previous Summer, he may well have replaced him in Cabella, who should've been bought in January but we wouldn't pay the money, time will tell on him.

Results on the pitch are only one of many reasons he gets aggro. He embarrassed the club with the whole Pellegrini affair, he disgraced the club headbutting an opposing teams player, he was completely out of order to put blame on our away fans for the Southampton result, that is a complete joke, his blame anyone but himself attitude is well documented and is pretty pathetic.

As has already been said changing the manager won't really change much, but at least we won't have such a dislikeable man as the manager of our club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on October 02, 2014, 08:18:47 PM
Beat me to it Reds a good piece


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on October 02, 2014, 09:49:32 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/02/alan-pardew-newcastle-manager-survival?commentpage=1 (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/02/alan-pardew-newcastle-manager-survival?commentpage=1)

Thought this was an interesting piece.

Enjoyed that - excellent article.

I've just read the last 12 months entries on the thread. Some of the stuff makes me laugh - for example Pleno thinking Remy is awful and then linking that to the great stats in the article about Remy and knowing that Rodgers wanted to buy him and mourinho actually did!

Overalll you can't help but sympathise with Newcastle supporters about the Ashley/Pardew scenario. All could have been so different if Sheikh Mansour had opted for the Toon when he was was looking at Newcastle/City/Everton before landing on City. I wonder what Newcastle fans would have made of that?







Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 02, 2014, 10:23:28 PM
Remy is a goal scorer not an all round striker which is why he looked awful in our teams at times. He's streets ahead of rivière and cisse but miles away from world class. Didn't Liverpool turn him down for 8m?  He would never be more than a back up striker for any big club. Do you really think qpr or Newcastle would have been able to sign him if he was so good?

He is a good one on one striker but I don't think he brings others into the game, works hard defensively or can play with his back to goal like Demba Ba did so well when we were successful that season. He bullied defenders, won headers, brought others into the game and still scored a bunch himself. The reason remy was so well liked was because the other option was Shola.

Remy signalled his intent way way before summer and we failed to replace him. We could have signed Pelle bit decided he was too old and his resale value wouldn't be high enough.

Very very bizarrely we signed remy Cabella who is a poor version or hba for 14m euros. Surely investing this money into a striker and keeping hba would have been the play, heck event marveux would have been better.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 02, 2014, 11:42:59 PM
GOALS: Sylvain Marveaux has a quick-fire double and Guingamp lead PAOK 2-0.

not good enough for Newcastle.. scores 2 goals in europa league



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on October 03, 2014, 12:14:26 AM
Remy is a goal scorer not an all round striker which is why he looked awful in our teams at times. He's streets ahead of rivière and cisse but miles away from world class. Didn't Liverpool turn him down for 8m?  He would never be more than a back up striker for any big club. Do you really think qpr or Newcastle would have been able to sign him if he was so good?

He is a good one on one striker but I don't think he brings others into the game, works hard defensively or can play with his back to goal like Demba Ba did so well when we were successful that season. He bullied defenders, won headers, brought others into the game and still scored a bunch himself. The reason remy was so well liked was because the other option was Shola.

Remy signalled his intent way way before summer and we failed to replace him. We could have signed Pelle bit decided he was too old and his resale value wouldn't be high enough.

Very very bizarrely we signed remy Cabella who is a poor version or hba for 14m euros. Surely investing this money into a striker and keeping hba would have been the play, heck event marveux would have been better.

My point is you slagged off Remy earlier in the thread.  I find  that amusing  because it is so at odds with:

•   other posters in the thread who rated him
•   the facts in that Guardian article
•   the fact that Rodgers went for him (but reported the deal didn’t conclude because of concerns about his medical )
•   the fact that Mourhino (quite a good judge of a footballer IMO) rated him sufficiently as a back up striker in a top side where he is almost guaranteed to get game time
•   the overwhelming viewpoint on most NUFC forums liking him because he is the best they could hope for in terms of having a goalscorer on board. Last seasons stats in the league  for minutes of game time/goals scored:

Dzeko   1992/16
Giroud 3081/16
Lukaku  2562/15
Remy   2103/14
RVP      1581/12
 

Then you post stuff like:

“Buying Cabella for 12m and sending hba on loan is the worst decision any manager has ever made at the club”

That amuses me as well. It is just so extreme.  Not only is it extreme but  in the summer you posted your agreement to a thread including the line “Opinions of Cabella are all positive and his signing looks to be the perfect choice to fill the ever widening hole left by love him or hate him Ben Arfa”

Make your mind up eh.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 03, 2014, 12:28:34 AM
i assumed that if ashley ever spent more than 5m for a player he must be bloody good, 14m he must be a superstar! other fans felt similarly and now Pardew admits he's not the player we need, we need a player who can "run at player and take them on" which is exactly what HBA does.

Like I said Remy is a good goalscorer, but he is not necessarily a player that we need in our team. We play with 2 holding midfielders and 2 wingers who cant cross/dont take their man on thus he will get very little service. Last season we had hba, cabaye creating a lot more chances for him. Pardew doesn't seem to be moved with Colback and Tiote in the team and that means we won't be running past the striker very often. Remy is the kind of player that plays off the shoulder of the last defender and runs onto balls, so with Fabregas, schrule, Oscar and Hazard I'm sure he will do well but when he has to but his arse into Ryan Shawcross or win headers against John Terry he will and does look very very average.

Believe me mate, I would wish for nothing more than us to be a team that plays slick moving football where we can afford a luxury of a striker who looks to get behind the defence, but instead we play long ball football. Even against stoke we hit long ball after long ball.

It's very similar to Cisse, he scored goal after goal when we were creating chances. Marveux, HBA, Cabaye and Ba were creating him tonnes of chances and he was scoring goals and having confidence. All four were removed from the team and he went from looking like the best striker in the league to the worst. Go check his goals/minute in the season before last and I'm sure you will tell me he is world class.

Remy could very well look very good in our team if Martinez was manager unfortunately we have Pardew and this is one of the main reasons he HAS to leave.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 03, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
This quote is not made up:

"I get it. I will go home, shine my manager of the year trophy and give myself a bit of confidence."


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on October 03, 2014, 12:44:30 PM
Haha - that's one of the best quotes I've ever heard!



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 04, 2014, 02:40:08 PM
Team is

        Krul

Janmaat Colocini Williamson Dummett

obertan   tiote  colback sissoko gouffran

                    cisse


if we looked at this team 2-3 years ago not one fan would believe we'd have progressed so little. Its really really ridiculous.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 04, 2014, 02:43:24 PM
When was the last time Gouffran didn't play a game? He's become undroppable even though he's been absolute shit for the past year+. I liked him at first but he's been played out of position pretty much since and I just want him to fuck off. Bloody Pardew.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on October 04, 2014, 03:30:52 PM
Obertan isnt playing, this isnt happening


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 04, 2014, 04:05:24 PM
God this is woeful


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on October 04, 2014, 04:10:32 PM
God this is woeful

has a manager ever been sacked during a game....


moaned it in wp


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 06, 2014, 10:38:40 AM
Yanga-Mbiwa plays the full 90 against Juventus. I'm sorry but how can this make any sense?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on October 08, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
Yanga-Mbiwa plays the full 90 against Juventus. I'm sorry but how can this make any sense?

Roma loaned him and within a month where he had barely played came back and wanted to discuss making it permanent. How can we not need him but the team who have started serie A so well aswell as performing creditably in the CL be desperate to wrap up the deal, doubtless before other teams were interested. Absolute shambles.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on October 08, 2014, 04:22:51 PM
I imagine defending in a team that is full of superstars is far easier than for an exposed Newcastle team. Sometimes people just can't cope with the intensity of the PL. Forlan is one example I can think of. Gervinho was gash for arsenal but doing great for Roma too


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on October 08, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
I imagine defending in a team that is full of superstars is far easier than for an exposed Newcastle team. Sometimes people just can't cope with the intensity of the PL. Forlan is one example I can think of. Gervinho was gash for arsenal but doing great for Roma too

Missed the point a bit. We arent complaining he was guff for us but great for roma, more that he wasnt given a chance for us but appears pretty decent as most fans thought, yet we have had such awful defending problems and our cover is steven.....taylor.....sigh. Its more proof pardew doesnt know what hes doing when CL teams are loaning off us for undesirable players under pardew.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 08, 2014, 08:22:30 PM
It's not like our current defence is winning itself any accolades. But they're basically undroppable because we don't have any replacements.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on October 09, 2014, 01:03:31 AM
Think pardew will go but very much doubt a change of manager will reverse your fortunes. The lack of ambition seems to come from the board.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on October 09, 2014, 12:07:37 PM
Is Mike looking for a way out, seems he is trying to force changes through at the rangers international football club.    He has also recently increased his shareholding to maximum allowed. 

Are TRIFC potentially worth more to him than Newcastle when when it comes to commercialism given that Sports Direct have the TRIFC club shops as well. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 09, 2014, 06:18:53 PM
Newcastle is worth a lot more to him than Rangers will ever be.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 18, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
Good lord. This club really is a shambles.

KO delayed (and reasonably likely to be called off) due to them going for the cheap option installing a new TV screen.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 19, 2014, 11:46:40 AM
Nice to finally get three points, although we wasn't great, just lucky to come up against a poor team in Leicester, any chance is stringing a few points together


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 20, 2014, 10:44:42 AM
The man's a nutcase:

http://www.thickaccent.com/2014/10/19/classic-alan-pardews-wrestling-move-on-steve-stone-after-newcastle-scored-v-leicester-vine/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on October 21, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
yeah ermm i take it back roma can keep mbiwa


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 26, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
Erm that was a nice surprise :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on October 29, 2014, 07:35:30 PM
Thought we should have hoyed it in the last round when we drew city before ET, now after seeing our starting line up cant understand why we didnt. We will be lucky not to get mackemed


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on October 29, 2014, 09:53:55 PM
Pardew for manager of the year!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on October 29, 2014, 10:14:29 PM
Won and totally deserved, robbed of a penalty aswell. Incredible performance. Pardew runs amazin, makes no effort to win it and the toon put up their performance of the season. How hes got gambling debts, he runs so good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 29, 2014, 10:35:53 PM
Abs buzzing with the result, but couldn't just get a good draw one time ffs.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on October 29, 2014, 10:37:28 PM
Abs buzzing with the result, but couldn't just get a good draw one time ffs.

What's wrong with that draw, Mond?

Tottenham are terrible!


You didn't want the mighty Cherries, that's for sure ;)


Watched some of it, and thought it was a good game that you deserved to win.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 29, 2014, 10:40:30 PM
Abs buzzing with the result, but couldn't just get a good draw one time ffs.

What's wrong with that draw, Mond?

Tottenham are terrible!

Watched some of it, and thought it was a good game that you deserved to win.

Would've been nice to get a home tie, Spurs will obv be clear favourites to win.

Home tie vs Bournemouth/Sheff Utd/Derby and a good shout of a semi final and a shot at Wembley would've been nice, still though, get there one time plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 29, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
Spurs midweek then Mackems at the weekend, All I want for Xmas is...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 29, 2014, 11:18:01 PM
boooooom, watched it in the city end, newc fans were incred. Great win, don't care what people say about the cup, city put a reasonably strong team out. Oh and cheers willh for 10/1 :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 29, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
our younger players look good, ameobi, aarons, abeid all look exciting and strong and fast.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on October 29, 2014, 11:26:42 PM
Abs buzzing with the result, but couldn't just get a good draw one time ffs.

What's wrong with that draw, Mond?

Tottenham are terrible!

Watched some of it, and thought it was a good game that you deserved to win.

Would've been nice to get a home tie, Spurs will obv be clear favourites to win.

Home tie vs Bournemouth/Sheff Utd/Derby and a good shout of a semi final and a shot at Wembley would've been nice, still though, get there one time plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Yeah, was messing about, and if Pardiola's boys can play like that, you're in the semisssssssssss :)

I hope you boys get there, I really do!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 01, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quality result, amazing 7 days.

Looking forward to seeing Aarons and Abeid playing more.

More of the same plz.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 01, 2014, 10:49:10 PM
How good was abeid today. Can't believe I'm saying it, but genuinely gutted obertan got injured. Amazing result


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: baldock92 on November 03, 2014, 10:48:24 AM
Drugs test needed at St James' park!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 09, 2014, 02:52:42 PM
Stop it Perez !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on November 09, 2014, 03:22:57 PM
Pardew out?

7th!


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Post by: arbboy on November 09, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
regression to the mean!!  What a wonderful thing.


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Post by: icles test on November 09, 2014, 04:25:50 PM
easy game


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 09, 2014, 11:17:31 PM
As I already posted in another thread, I'm completely over discussing Newcastle United on here, just could someone help me out plz...

Don't have to listen to the whole thing, just from 1:35 onwards, he says " I could also say the same about Sammy Ameobi, Mehdi Abeid, Paul Dummitt, xxxxx" what is it he says here with that hilariously endearing cockey smirk on his face ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29868777


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Post by: horseplayer on November 10, 2014, 10:03:17 AM
No idea

Entitled to smile after a few wins one might suggest

Sure he would get stick if he was moping around as well


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Post by: Cf on November 12, 2014, 12:43:45 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/nov/11/arsenal-tottenham-fans-question-clubs

Deluded Londeners etc.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 22, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Oioiiii


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on November 27, 2014, 02:33:56 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11257795/Newcastle-and-Rangers-will-not-be-able-to-play-in-Europe-together-next-season-because-of-Mike-Ashley.html


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Post by: arbboy on November 27, 2014, 02:38:31 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11257795/Newcastle-and-Rangers-will-not-be-able-to-play-in-Europe-together-next-season-because-of-Mike-Ashley.html

lol think there is a long way to go before these issues become reality!!!  Rangers got a 6% chance of winning the Scottish cup and Newcastle a similar chance of finishing in the top 6 this season.  Less than 0.4% chance of both happening this season.  Ashley will be long gone north of the border by the time it is an issue.  Total nothing story.

'It is understood Ashley misjudged Uefa’s strict rules ensuring the integrity of their competitions. Although he only holds around nine per cent of Rangers shares, he has appointed his own people, including former Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias, to the Rangers board in return for financial assistance.'  One thing is for sure Ashley is a shrewdie and he will have known the rules inside out.  He will also have known it was less than 1% likely the situation happened as well for it to even be a realistic issue.


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Post by: icles test on November 27, 2014, 02:57:36 PM
He plans to sell newcastle anyway end of next season when he books are balanced, newcastle being in europe would just be a bonus for him.


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Post by: Cf on November 27, 2014, 03:28:28 PM
It's not going to happen this season. Not sure Rangers are even eligible for Europe if they win the Scottish cup.

But in a few seasons time if Ashley is still here it could become a problem. If he sells then so problem but the last time he claimed to try and sell he failed to find a buyer.


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Post by: DropTheHammer on December 06, 2014, 03:09:33 PM
Pardew out.


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Post by: Cf on December 07, 2014, 02:16:00 AM
Pardew out.

+1

(unsure if sarcastic or not but my +1 certainly isn't)


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Post by: arbboy on December 07, 2014, 02:18:19 AM
Pardew out.

+1

(unsure if sarcastic or not but my +1 certainly isn't)

If you finished top 4 would you still be as anti results orientated and want him out?  I just don't get the hate for Pardew at all?  I didn't when you were struggling.  Now you are massively over achieving with your squad/wage bill and still want him out????


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DropTheHammer on December 07, 2014, 01:37:06 PM
Surely NUFC fans have to ride the upswing wave until it breaks?

The time to sack him was when he was going round trying to fight everyone (gross misconduct). Nice and cheap and nobody could have defended him. Sacking him now would be madness.


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Post by: Kmac84 on December 07, 2014, 02:56:07 PM

The time to sack him was when he was going round trying to fight everyone (gross misconduct). Nice and cheap and nobody could have defended him. Sacking him now would be madness.

Maybe not so mad if you believe this guy, he is ridiculed by many on both sides up here but his accuracy on all things related to Rangers in recent years has been spot on, you'd think he was the puppet master.

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/the-unsackable-ally/


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Post by: TheDazzler on December 10, 2014, 02:51:14 PM
On your goalkeeping crisis, I think Victor Valdes is a free agent and was training with Man Utd recently.
I wonder would you guys be able to get him on a 1-2 month short term contract?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: icles test on December 15, 2014, 08:50:02 AM
Steve Bruce says ben arfa is missing. Anyone check greggs?


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Post by: toddswain on December 21, 2014, 12:32:24 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5VUeTrCEAELM41.jpg)

Programme cover for tommorow lol. Pretty excited for it, lucky enough to have tickets, thanks to Ray. Reckon it'll be close.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 21, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
Defo time for Pardew to go now. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 21, 2014, 04:13:04 PM
as i said, when he played the players the fans would want we did very well, once tiote/gouffran and his favourites come back we will lose lose and lose. He was forced into playing young players that the fans wanted and we won 5 in a row, he has reverted back to his old crop of shit who work hard and tackle well and we have lost every game since.

lets not forget sunderland are a very, very bad team. only 2 wins all season.


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Post by: Doobs on December 21, 2014, 04:34:24 PM
You only sing when your losing...


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Post by: pleno1 on December 21, 2014, 06:29:30 PM
anybody watch the match? rio ferdinand on twitter in the 2nd half..

Sissoko has become Newcastle's go to guy....pace & power in abundance...a real threat.

it was 0-0 and we looked like scoring as sissoko was driving through the midfield and defence and causing problems in the last 3rd.

pardew takes a defensive midfielder off and puts sissoko back in there to accomodate cisse.

we lose all of our threat and sissoko doesnt stop johnson on the break away for the goal. would pellegrini do this? no he pushes up yaya toure and takes strikers off when he needs a goal!

pardew again a clueless tactician. it says something when probably 30-50% of our fans dont mind if we lose today if it means more pressure on pardew, not even fired, but more pressure, this is newcastle vs sunderland, the biggest rivalry in the premiership and a lot of our fans didn't care if we lost.

the guy may have won over the southern press he absolutely hasn't won over us


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on December 21, 2014, 08:07:57 PM
anybody watch the match? rio ferdinand on twitter in the 2nd half..

Sissoko has become Newcastle's go to guy....pace & power in abundance...a real threat.

it was 0-0 and we looked like scoring as sissoko was driving through the midfield and defence and causing problems in the last 3rd.

pardew takes a defensive midfielder off and puts sissoko back in there to accomodate cisse.

we lose all of our threat and sissoko doesnt stop johnson on the break away for the goal. would pellegrini do this? no he pushes up yaya toure and takes strikers off when he needs a goal!

pardew again a clueless tactician. it says something when probably 30-50% of our fans dont mind if we lose today if it means more pressure on pardew, not even fired, but more pressure, this is newcastle vs sunderland, the biggest rivalry in the premiership and a lot of our fans didn't care if we lost.

the guy may have won over the southern press he absolutely hasn't won over us

This Defo isnt true


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on December 21, 2014, 08:11:18 PM
anybody watch the match? rio ferdinand on twitter in the 2nd half..

Sissoko has become Newcastle's go to guy....pace & power in abundance...a real threat.

it was 0-0 and we looked like scoring as sissoko was driving through the midfield and defence and causing problems in the last 3rd.

pardew takes a defensive midfielder off and puts sissoko back in there to accomodate cisse.

we lose all of our threat and sissoko doesnt stop johnson on the break away for the goal. would pellegrini do this? no he pushes up yaya toure and takes strikers off when he needs a goal!

pardew again a clueless tactician. it says something when probably 30-50% of our fans dont mind if we lose today if it means more pressure on pardew, not even fired, but more pressure, this is newcastle vs sunderland, the biggest rivalry in the premiership and a lot of our fans didn't care if we lost.

the guy may have won over the southern press he absolutely hasn't won over us

This Defo isnt true

out by an order of magnitude imo. more like 3-5%


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 21, 2014, 08:23:25 PM
I'm going from newcastle-online.org


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on December 22, 2014, 12:12:27 AM
anybody watch the match? rio ferdinand on twitter in the 2nd half..

Sissoko has become Newcastle's go to guy....pace & power in abundance...a real threat.

it was 0-0 and we looked like scoring as sissoko was driving through the midfield and defence and causing problems in the last 3rd.

pardew takes a defensive midfielder off and puts sissoko back in there to accomodate cisse.

we lose all of our threat and sissoko doesnt stop johnson on the break away for the goal. would pellegrini do this? no he pushes up yaya toure and takes strikers off when he needs a goal!

pardew again a clueless tactician. it says something when probably 30-50% of our fans dont mind if we lose today if it means more pressure on pardew, not even fired, but more pressure, this is newcastle vs sunderland, the biggest rivalry in the premiership and a lot of our fans didn't care if we lost.

the guy may have won over the southern press he absolutely hasn't won over us

Call


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 22, 2014, 12:15:51 AM
Maybe Mike will bring in Mr Super and ship Pardew to Ibrox Direct Arena to see if he can get them promoted?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on December 22, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
anybody watch the match? rio ferdinand on twitter in the 2nd half..

Sissoko has become Newcastle's go to guy....pace & power in abundance...a real threat.

it was 0-0 and we looked like scoring as sissoko was driving through the midfield and defence and causing problems in the last 3rd.

pardew takes a defensive midfielder off and puts sissoko back in there to accomodate cisse.

we lose all of our threat and sissoko doesnt stop johnson on the break away for the goal. would pellegrini do this? no he pushes up yaya toure and takes strikers off when he needs a goal!

pardew again a clueless tactician. it says something when probably 30-50% of our fans dont mind if we lose today if it means more pressure on pardew, not even fired, but more pressure, this is newcastle vs sunderland, the biggest rivalry in the premiership and a lot of our fans didn't care if we lost.

the guy may have won over the southern press he absolutely hasn't won over us

Call

Is say it is, only one even close might be liverpool Everton.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 22, 2014, 05:21:32 PM
anybody watch the match? rio ferdinand on twitter in the 2nd half..

Sissoko has become Newcastle's go to guy....pace & power in abundance...a real threat.

it was 0-0 and we looked like scoring as sissoko was driving through the midfield and defence and causing problems in the last 3rd.

pardew takes a defensive midfielder off and puts sissoko back in there to accomodate cisse.

we lose all of our threat and sissoko doesnt stop johnson on the break away for the goal. would pellegrini do this? no he pushes up yaya toure and takes strikers off when he needs a goal!

pardew again a clueless tactician. it says something when probably 30-50% of our fans dont mind if we lose today if it means more pressure on pardew, not even fired, but more pressure, this is newcastle vs sunderland, the biggest rivalry in the premiership and a lot of our fans didn't care if we lost.

the guy may have won over the southern press he absolutely hasn't won over us

Call

Is say it is, only one even close might be liverpool Everton.

This has to be a level?

Man U v Liverpool far bigger, I'd also say Chelsea v Spurs as well. 

Liverpool v Everton isn't nearly as fierce as most local derby matches. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 22, 2014, 05:50:15 PM
Chelsea vs Spurs? :D hilarious.

Everybody in the north east basically loves for football. They speak about it Monday-Friday and live it on the weekend.
Chelsea, Spurs isn't even the biggest London derby is it?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 22, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Chelsea vs Spurs? :D hilarious.

Everybody in the north east basically loves for football. They speak about it Monday-Friday and live it on the weekend.
Chelsea, Spurs isn't even the biggest London derby is it?

Rivalry wise its as tasty as it comes. 



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nuros on December 22, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
Where I live everyone is basically a spurs or west ham fan (or manu ofc) and those spurs fans (I'm a hammer!) i know - many of whom are season ticket holders - all hate arsenal alot more than chelsea! Tbh I'd probably put Man U v Liv as the biggest PL rivalry followed by Newc v Sun then Spurs v Arse.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on December 22, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
chelsea v sours > arsenal v spurs, is it?

hold on, I've just checked with every spurs and arsenal fan in the world and they all confirmed that's utter shite.

also thnk only man utd v liverpool comes close to north east derby.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on December 22, 2014, 06:52:23 PM
Yea was level cos pretty sure david is united fan ha. I don't think the rivalry between United and Liverpool is as bad as newcastle sunderland. But yea that's closest


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 22, 2014, 06:59:58 PM
chelsea v sours > arsenal v spurs, is it?

hold on, I've just checked with every spurs and arsenal fan in the world and they all confirmed that's utter shite.

also thnk only man utd v liverpool comes close to north east derby.

Hold on I ust checked with every football fan I know and they confirmed the Newcastle v Sunderland rivarly is just bad local blood, all the best football rivalries revolve round clubs with a hostory of winning trophies.  Not just pissed up louts from the same region manufacturing some hatred against each other.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on December 22, 2014, 07:39:02 PM
Tyne-Wear game is obviously pretty big, but there's generally nothing more at stake than local pride these days.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 28, 2014, 03:16:52 PM
Mourinho really hasn't used Remy hardly at all this season right?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 28, 2014, 10:34:39 PM
Please please please let the palace rumours be true!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 28, 2014, 11:30:32 PM
Please please please let the palace rumours be true!


as long as it doesnt mean alan mccoist comes


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2014, 11:53:25 PM
Warnock is available...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on December 29, 2014, 12:21:30 PM
No chance pardew leaves. Great win yesterday, Perez is turning out to be some player. Also chuffed for colback gettin a goal. Nice to see sissoko get back to some decent form... Goufrann tho ? He's garbage, start cabella imo. Tiote a Liberty too, I'd rather we played colback and abeid or colback and Anita


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Post by: Doobs on December 29, 2014, 12:45:25 PM
Mourinho really hasn't used Remy hardly at all this season right?

Ben Arfa wasn't a great success at Hull either.  Pardew GOAT?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on December 29, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Pardew 8/11 best on next manager to leave.  Some price that with all the Alan Irvine talk.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 29, 2014, 05:23:39 PM
Mail reporting he's gone...

Plllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 29, 2014, 05:26:18 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

Can't imagine who they're going to get as a replacement.

Real headscratcher, and I guess we'll have to wait for Pardiola's book...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2014, 08:40:52 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

Can't imagine who they're going to get as a replacement.

Real headscratcher, and I guess we'll have to wait for Pardiola's book...

My dough's on Colin Wanker in a deep level seven coup.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2014, 09:08:18 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

Can't imagine who they're going to get as a replacement.

Real headscratcher, and I guess we'll have to wait for Pardiola's book...

My dough's on Colin Wanker in a deep level seven coup.

Who's that, Ralph?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 29, 2014, 09:21:27 PM
Calderwood?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: booder on December 29, 2014, 09:31:59 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

Can't imagine who they're going to get as a replacement.

Real headscratcher, and I guess we'll have to wait for Pardiola's book...

My dough's on Colin Wanker in a deep level seven coup.

Who's that, Ralph?

Neil Warnock.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RickBFA on December 29, 2014, 09:32:48 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

I agree Tighty, some football fans should be careful what they wish for.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 29, 2014, 09:48:07 PM
I really must say I don't get the Pardew hate. 

I understand the guy can be a bit of a tit, but he is not alone.  Most managers are like that imo. 

But given what he has to work with he has done well imo.  The problem is Newcastle fans still think they are a big club, when they are not. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2014, 10:18:39 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

Can't imagine who they're going to get as a replacement.

Real headscratcher, and I guess we'll have to wait for Pardiola's book...

My dough's on Colin Wanker in a deep level seven coup.

Who's that, Ralph?

Marky you must be one of the very few that's not familiar with footie's greatest anagram.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 29, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
k


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2014, 11:52:51 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

Can't imagine who they're going to get as a replacement.

Real headscratcher, and I guess we'll have to wait for Pardiola's book...

My dough's on Colin Wanker in a deep level seven coup.

Who's that, Ralph?

Marky you must be one of the very few that's not familiar with footie's greatest anagram.

Sheltered existence :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on December 30, 2014, 01:22:25 AM
Collicini early fave according to sky


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
I really must say I don't get the Pardew hate. 

I understand the guy can be a bit of a tit, but he is not alone.  Most managers are like that imo. 

But given what he has to work with he has done well imo.  The problem is Newcastle fans still think they are a big club, when they are not. 

They are a big club though by any definition of fanbase.  Feels like the owners hold them back.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 12:23:25 PM
I really must say I don't get the Pardew hate. 

I understand the guy can be a bit of a tit, but he is not alone.  Most managers are like that imo. 

But given what he has to work with he has done well imo.  The problem is Newcastle fans still think they are a big club, when they are not. 

They are a big club though by any definition of fanbase.  Feels like the owners hold them back.

Outside Newcastle they don't have a fan base.   They had a glimpse of success when John Hall was handing money hand over first to Keegan. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 12:28:35 PM
I really must say I don't get the Pardew hate. 

I understand the guy can be a bit of a tit, but he is not alone.  Most managers are like that imo. 

But given what he has to work with he has done well imo.  The problem is Newcastle fans still think they are a big club, when they are not. 

They are a big club though by any definition of fanbase.  Feels like the owners hold them back.


Outside Newcastle they don't have a fan base.   They had a glimpse of success when John Hall was handing money hand over first to Keegan. 

well thats bullshit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 12:36:22 PM
I really must say I don't get the Pardew hate. 

I understand the guy can be a bit of a tit, but he is not alone.  Most managers are like that imo. 

But given what he has to work with he has done well imo.  The problem is Newcastle fans still think they are a big club, when they are not. 

They are a big club though by any definition of fanbase.  Feels like the owners hold them back.


Outside Newcastle they don't have a fan base.   They had a glimpse of success when John Hall was handing money hand over first to Keegan. 

well thats bullshit.

Is it?  You living in Budapest or whereever hardly counts as a fanbase outside Newcastle. 

If you travel anywhere in the world you see folk wearing Liverpool/Chelsea/Man U/Arsenal/Barca/Real Madrid/Celtic and even Rangers tops.  I could count on the one hand the number of times I have seen a non Geordie decked out in black and white stripes. 

Your a provincial club at best.  The fact that yous come from a one city club doesn't make you a "big" team. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on December 30, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
Must not bite


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DropTheHammer on December 30, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
Has someone been on the fighting juice (buckfast) for breakfast?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 12:50:34 PM
We have a 52,000 seater stadium which sells out to 90% capacity every game

We have a world record transfer fee in the modern era

We've played multiple times in the champions league

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes'_list_of_the_most_valuable_football_clubs

In 2013 we were the 20th most valuable club in the world

Regarding fans outside of Newcastle.. Becuase of the attractive football that Keegan brought to the club in addition to having players like Shearer, Ginola, Asprilla, Ferdinand etc a lot of kids grew up in my generation as Newcastle fans (I think even Toddswain is from Rochdale???)  other notable examples was that Berbatov grew up in Bulgaria as a Newcastle fan etc etc

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00375/Berbatov_375683a.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/StJamesParkPanorama.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 01:06:08 PM
Oh dear.  52,000 all seater stadium that sells out 90% of the time is that really criteria for being a big club? 

Played numerous times in the champions league?  To what degree was there any success and when was the last time Newcastle made it to the Champions League. 

The £15 million paid for Shearer pales into insignificance now, and thatw as when 1996.  I'd hardly call that modern era now. 

I liked Newcastle under Keegan, I have been to St James a few times your fans are passionate but also very deluded as to where they are in the game and where they deserve to be. 



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 01:10:17 PM
Has someone been on the fighting juice (buckfast) for breakfast?

Nah that's for the 1st of January.  Today it's only coffee. 

But the attitude of Newcastle fans riles me it's on a par with that of Celtic fans who think because we once won the European cup and we have similar issues to Newcastle in that we're a big fish in a small pond that we have a divine right to win everything and be the best at everything.  There is noting wrong with ambition but delusion is another thing all together. 

Newcastle are at best a top 8 side in the EPL.  They have consistently punched above their weight when you look at how Ashley runs the club.  Pardew has done a really good job imo and the fans are blind to that through their hatred of him. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 01:54:31 PM
Why at best a top 8 and not at best a top 7 or are you just plucking numbers out of your arse?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 02:00:09 PM
"The £15 million paid for Shearer pales into insignificance now, and thatw as when 1996. "

£15m 20 years ago would be like buying a £50m player these days.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
Chelsea
Man city
Man U
Arsenal
Liverpool
Spurs
Everton

All ahead of Newcastle in my book in terms of the way the clubs are run, players and management.    You could even fire in Southampton.  

The top 6 is pretty solid, year on year.  

Newcastle are in the mix with Stoke/Southampton/Everton/

West Ham would be a just shy along with teams like Swansea.  

I think this season the Europa League has taken its toll on Everton, just like it did with Newcastle a few years back.  


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 02:04:08 PM
"Oh dear.  52,000 all seater stadium that sells out 90% of the time is that really criteria for being a big club?  "

I think that makes it a big club.  

As soon as you post those numbers you are setup to challenge on a sustainable basis.   Having overseas fans can then come from subsequent success.

Newcastle are unquestionably a bigger club than Chelsea/Everton/Spurs imo.  There is no reason why Newcastle couldn't challenge for the top 4 in England on a regular basis with the correct management/ownership.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 02:05:55 PM
"All ahead of Newcastle in my book in terms of the way the clubs are run, players and management."

What does the way clubs are run have anything to do with whether they are a big club?  Or currrent players and management?  "Big" club status is about long term potential.  Leeds would be a more extreme version of Newcastle. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
Seems not only Newcastle fans are deluded.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 02:14:54 PM
I just don't think you get the concept.  If Watford finished top 10 five years in a row I wouldn't call them a big club, as we probably would struggle to get above 30,000 fans for home games even with that success.

The concept of being a big club isn't about where you are now.  It's where you "should" be given your fanbase revenue streams (or even potential fanbase revenue streams in the case of some fallen teams). 

That's why despite the last 10 years Chelsea are still a smaller club than Newcastle by my reckoning.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 02:23:31 PM
The concept of being a big club imo is money in the bank, potential for growth, past history. 

Newcastle don't have much of either imo. 

They are never a top 4 side,  as I said earlier they couldn't get to the summit when Joh Hall was free rolling them.  Even Blackburn managed it.   

Newcastle will no doubt maintain their home gates.  But realistically they aren't going to break into the top 6 anytime soon.

Even based on history I would say Leeds were a bigger club. 



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 02:37:24 PM
Huh? We were 5th a few seasons ago pal.

Suggesting we are a similar sized club to stoke is just laughable a, perhaps you're not real though.. Arbboy3?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 03:05:30 PM
And finished 2nd in the late 90s?



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 03:08:11 PM
2nd, 2nd, 3rd,3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, 7th, 7th since we came into the premiership. Negatives is of course a relegation.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on December 30, 2014, 03:08:22 PM
I think claiming Newcastle are bigger than Chelsea is just plain wrong.

The big 5 (Arsenal, Man U, Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool) are well clear of the rest.  You can see that in matchday income, turnover or  

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/01/premier-league-club-accounts-debt-wages (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/01/premier-league-club-accounts-debt-wages)

I don't think it matters what size the stadium is if Chelsea can get £71m in gate income and Newcastle only £28m.  

Spurs are the 6th biggest club and there isn't much doubt about that.

You could argue Newcastle are 7th, and they are on turnover, but I wouldn't put Everton and Villa far away on history, crowds etc.  If they are finishing around 7th to 10th, they are finishing at around their level.  Not underachieving and not overachieving.

If you just look at pure turnover, Newcastle are as close to the 20th biggest club inb the premiership than they are to Spurs.  So it is more laughable to suggest Newcastle are as big as Tottenham or bigger than Chelsea than it is to suggest they are similar sized to Stoke.   I don't even think there is much potential to get as big as Spurs, for instance they could double their gate turnover or commercial income and still not be that close.  



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DMorgan on December 30, 2014, 03:21:17 PM
Adjust those turnovers for average wages within an x mile radius of stadium and I'd imagine it's a lot closer than those numbers suggest between Chelsea and Newcastle


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
I think claiming Newcastle are bigger than Chelsea is just plain wrong.

The big 5 (Arsenal, Man U, Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool) are well clear of the rest.  You can see that in matchday income, turnover or  

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/01/premier-league-club-accounts-debt-wages (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/01/premier-league-club-accounts-debt-wages)

I don't think it matters what size the stadium is if Chelsea can get £71m in gate income and Newcastle only £28m.  

Spurs are the 6th biggest club and there isn't much doubt about that.

You could argue Newcastle are 7th, and they are on turnover, but I wouldn't put Everton and Villa far away on history, crowds etc.  If they are finishing around 7th to 10th, they are finishing at around their level.  Not underachieving and not overachieving.

If you just look at pure turnover, Newcastle are as close to the 20th biggest club inb the premiership than they are to Spurs.  So it is more laughable to suggest Newcastle are as big as Tottenham or bigger than Chelsea than it is to suggest they are similar sized to Stoke.   I don't even think there is much potential to get as big as Spurs, for instance they could double their gate turnover or commercial income and still not be that close.  



That says it much better than I ever could. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 03:37:59 PM
I'm not sure why people get fixated by a particular point in history when looking at who is bigger than who.  The concept of "big club" must be looked at over a longer period, and also consider potential.

If Newcastle as an area became more affluent in the future, and if they had the same success on the pitch, they would make more money in matchday income than Chelsea.  At the send of the day they have a bigger fanbase.

Chelsea make more money at the moment.  But I'm not sure that is any more relevant than us looking at 1981 matchday income before Ken Bates bought them for £1.  


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Incidentally, looking at those figures does that include all matches (i.e. Champs League for Chelsea but nothing for Newcastle?)

If not it means Chelsea on average charge three times more per ticket than Newcastle once you adjust for average attendance.  Which may be correct I suppose.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ironside on December 30, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
Loving the fact saints have been put on a par with newcastle and stoke!!  Saints are a smaller club than newcastle but bigger than stoke but currently a better side than both


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on December 30, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
I'm not sure why people get fixated by a particular point in history when looking at who is bigger than who.  The concept of "big club" must be looked at over a longer period, and also consider potential.

If Newcastle as an area became more affluent in the future, and if they had the same success on the pitch, they would make more money in matchday income than Chelsea.  At the send of the day they have a bigger fanbase.

Chelsea make more money at the moment.  But I'm not sure that is any more relevant than us looking at 1981 matchday income before Ken Bates bought them for £1.  

Because you weren't talking about who was the biggest you were talking about who is the biggest.

If Newcastle became the biggest club at some point in the future, then I would happily say they are now the biggest, and it wouldn't make any difference that Chelsea were once 3 times as big.  Things change, history doesn't mean an awful lot.  Given how succesful Man U have been over the years, then there is no reason this can't ever happen.


 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RickBFA on December 30, 2014, 03:51:49 PM
None of this changes the view of most neutrals, that Pardew did a decent job with the resources at his disposal.

Football fans are football fans though and often cant see the woods for the trees.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 30, 2014, 03:58:08 PM
Pardew has done an awful job with the resources at his disposal.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 04:01:17 PM
I'm not sure why people get fixated by a particular point in history when looking at who is bigger than who.  The concept of "big club" must be looked at over a longer period, and also consider potential.

If Newcastle as an area became more affluent in the future, and if they had the same success on the pitch, they would make more money in matchday income than Chelsea.  At the send of the day they have a bigger fanbase.

Chelsea make more money at the moment.  But I'm not sure that is any more relevant than us looking at 1981 matchday income before Ken Bates bought them for £1.  

Because you weren't talking about who was the biggest you were talking about who is the biggest.

If Newcastle became the biggest club at some point in the future, then I would happily say they are now the biggest, and it wouldn't make any difference that Chelsea were once 3 times as big.  Things change, history doesn't mean an awful lot.  Given how succesful Man U have been over the years, then there is no reason this can't ever happen.


 

But that is my point.  For me "big club" means potential as well as history.  It's not just a current point in time.   I think Newcastle have bigger potential than Chelsea do.   When Watford were smashing up the top league I didn't think they were bigger than Aston Villa or Wolves or whoever was languishing at the time.

You may of course have a different point of reference when discussing "big club".  When this topic comes up people always have different ways of looking at it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2014, 04:01:27 PM
Pardew has done an awful job with the resources at his disposal.

No axe to grind either way, but viewed as a neutral I completely disagree

criticise the style, the tactics, the PR whatever but to be top half on net amount spent is one heck of an achievement


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 04:02:32 PM
I don't think they current set up at Newcastle will allow much more achievement than is currently the case.   Pardew has done about par I would say.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RickBFA on December 30, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
top half, on a budget nowhere near some other teams. Obviously done a great job under enormous and often unfair pressure

i know he's rubbed you up the wrong way, tactics and selections have you scratching your heads, but in the cold light of day it doesn't reflect well that he's leaving for a smaller club

Tighty has it spot on.

Most neutrals agree with this.

Unfortunately football fans get so emotional involved their judgement becomes clouded, especially when it comes to their own club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 04:05:27 PM
Maybe it's the non football stuff or the style of football, but at a neutral I'd be pretty underwhelmed if Watford ever appointment Pardew.

If I were a Newcastle fan, I'd be happy that he is gone I think.  Can't really put my finger on it, because on the paper the naked results do show him in a favourable light.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 04:06:02 PM
In 2014 parses managed to get 36 points? Relegation form. If we hadn't fluked that run of 5 games this week then we would be absolutely fucked. And pardew knows fine well how poor he's been and how lucky he's been. Do you think he'd really leave us for palace? This year sackpardew.com website identified all of his flaws and he knows he is in borrowed time.

Luckily Ashley was shrewd enough to get this huge contract and maki is a break even team so the press tell everybody what a good job he's done then somebody pay us 2.5m to take him away!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2014, 04:15:24 PM
Maybe it's the non football stuff or the style of football, but at a neutral I'd be pretty underwhelmed if Watford ever appointment Pardew.

If I were a Newcastle fan, I'd be happy that he is gone I think.  Can't really put my finger on it, because on the paper the naked results do show him in a favourable light.

I agree with this. Suppose it is easier for those not emotionally involved in it to just take a league position/budget and not be upset by all the flim-flam that has gone on around the club under his stewardship


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RickBFA on December 30, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
In 2014 parses managed to get 36 points? Relegation form. If we hadn't fluked that run of 5 games this week then we would be absolutely fucked. And pardew knows fine well how poor he's been and how lucky he's been. Do you think he'd really leave us for palace? This year sackpardew.com website identified all of his flaws and he knows he is in borrowed time.

Luckily Ashley was shrewd enough to get this huge contract and maki is a break even team so the press tell everybody what a good job he's done then somebody pay us 2.5m to take him away!

Sounds like he's doubling his salary.

Most mortals would be taking it in a shot and not be too worried how big their employer is.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 30, 2014, 04:17:08 PM
Good results? Really?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30620617

That's this year. And were it not for the fluke 5 game run we'd be at or next to bottom there.

He seems to get a free pass for "but you finished 5th!". No-one ever seems to mention how he almost relegated us the season after.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
Good results? Really?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30620617

That's this year. And were it not for the fluke 5 game run we'd be at or next to bottom there.

He seems to get a free pass for "but you finished 5th!". No-one ever seems to mention how he almost relegated us the season after.

Not to mention the worst goal difference, constant thrashing a, worst ever Derby runs etc etc


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2014, 04:21:26 PM
Good results? Really?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30620617

That's this year. And were it not for the fluke 5 game run we'd be at or next to bottom there.

He seems to get a free pass for "but you finished 5th!". No-one ever seems to mention how he almost relegated us the season after.

why is a 5 game run a fluke?

its 5 wins, in a tough league, 5 in a row is an achievement

we can take 5 wins off 12 teams in the league and say they'd be bottom 3

you are completely blinkered on the whole subject Charles, not as harsh as it sounds as you are a passionate fan, which i respect

who do you want next?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2014, 04:25:05 PM
Pardew is a below average manager

He thinks he is a top 4 manager in his own head anyway



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 30, 2014, 04:27:08 PM
Good results? Really?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30620617

That's this year. And were it not for the fluke 5 game run we'd be at or next to bottom there.

He seems to get a free pass for "but you finished 5th!". No-one ever seems to mention how he almost relegated us the season after.

why is a 5 game run a fluke?

its 5 wins, in a tough league, 5 in a row is an achievement

we can take 5 wins off 12 teams in the league and say they'd be bottom 3

you are completely blinkered on the whole subject Charles, not as harsh as it sounds as you are a passionate fan, which i respect

who do you want next?

I class them as a fluke because we suffered injuries which meant he was forced to change the team and play some youngsters and gosh maybe play some palyers in their right position (e.g. sissoko who is now being linked with Arsenal was played on right wing all last season).

Pardew goes on little runs when he stumbles into situations like this. You'd think he would learn from them. But no, he will always revert to type.

As for who? Quite a few people I'd be happy with. I imagine we'll be going abroad. Galtier and De Boer keep getting mentioned. Happy with them. Hope we don't go near Bruce.

Could we end up with someone worse than Pardew? Absolutely. But just because there's a chance something might go wrong doesn't mean you should settle for mediocrity. Everyone who keeps saying better the devil you know really pisses me off.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on December 30, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
I don't rate Pardew but considering the circumstances he has to work in he's done well. Spose we will find out how good he is/was based on how his successor does with the same team


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 30, 2014, 04:28:32 PM
I don't rate Pardew but considering the circumstances he has to work in he's done well. Spose we will find out how good he is/was based on how his successor does with the same team

I don't get this argument either.

What exactly is so terrible about the circumstances he was working under?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 04:29:11 PM
Didn't he bench Tevez/Mascherano for large periods of their spell there too who now play for Juventus/Barcelona and combined have won everything in football between them.

Mascherano was well known to be Hayden Fucking Mullens deputy!

As for Tevez..

Tevez, who could start today in his preferred role as a central striker, said: "I was surprised to see how long Pardew held on to the job in the end.

"In Argentina or Brazil he would have been out long ago. It was clear the team did not react as he wanted — it wasn't going right.

"I was never given the chances I thought I would be given and I was told to play out of position against my will.

"I had to sacrifice myself for the team which I don't think helped. I was playing in ways I did not understand well and I lost a lot from my own game.

"It didn't fit where he put me, but I wanted to help."If he was a bad tactician but passionate and a good man manager j could take it.

Our captain has tried to flee to Argentina twice since pardew came here, he has regularly turned international players into bench warmers, he's continuesld to show very poor form getting beaten off our rivals 4 games in a row scoring 1 and conceding 9.

We've been hammered off teams and or players have given up mid match.

The london press who call us stupid fans will murder him.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on December 30, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
I don't rate Pardew but considering the circumstances he has to work in he's done well. Spose we will find out how good he is/was based on how his successor does with the same team

I don't get this argument either.

What exactly is so terrible about the circumstances he was working under?

And which manager wouldn't have us as a mid table team? All the other bad managers like Bruce etc would have been exactly the same.

You have to remember there's slme awful teams in this league. Burnley, Leicester, villa, Sunderland, palace, qpr etc


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
With a bit of luck they'll get someone in the Keegan mould, and then it will be exciting to watch them again :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on December 30, 2014, 05:20:26 PM
I don't rate Pardew but considering the circumstances he has to work in he's done well. Spose we will find out how good he is/was based on how his successor does with the same team

I don't get this argument either.

What exactly is so terrible about the circumstances he was working under?

And which manager wouldn't have us as a mid table team? All the other bad managers like Bruce etc would have been exactly the same.

You have to remember there's slme awful teams in this league. Burnley, Leicester, villa, Sunderland, palace, qpr etc

These teams aren't awful Pleno.  Any of them can beat a top team on a good day. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
Would be fun to see them relegated and wipe big Mike out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 30, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
I don't rate Pardew but considering the circumstances he has to work in he's done well. Spose we will find out how good he is/was based on how his successor does with the same team

I don't get this argument either.

What exactly is so terrible about the circumstances he was working under?

And which manager wouldn't have us as a mid table team? All the other bad managers like Bruce etc would have been exactly the same.

You have to remember there's slme awful teams in this league. Burnley, Leicester, villa, Sunderland, palace, qpr etc

These teams aren't awful Pleno.  Any of them can beat a top team on a good day. 

Im a sunderland fan, and I can confirm we are fucking dreadful


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on December 30, 2014, 09:04:49 PM
Do the Newcastle fans think Pardew will keep Palace up this year?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2014, 09:36:17 PM
Not a fan

But probably yes but that's judging him against neil warnock which is no benchmark



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ironside on December 30, 2014, 10:49:53 PM
Do Newcastle fans think Colin wanker ( first time hearing today) can keep them up this season?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on December 30, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
Do Newcastle fans think Colin wanker ( first time hearing today) can keep them up this season?

Who?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on December 31, 2014, 12:16:02 AM
Premier League Position:
10/11   12th - became manager half way through the season
11/12   5th
12/13   16th
13/14   10th
14/15   10th season to date

Net Transfer Spend last 5 Seasons

17th - Newcastle   Total £6.25million  Average per season £1.25 million

Conclusion? He overachieved.

Seems he was right about Ben Harfa as well and my god he was hammered for that.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ironside on December 31, 2014, 04:52:43 AM
Do Newcastle fans think Colin wanker ( first time hearing today) can keep them up this season?

Who?
seemingly a well known anagram of Neil warnock


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 31, 2014, 09:52:44 AM
Premier League Position:
10/11   12th - became manager half way through the season
11/12   5th
12/13   16th
13/14   10th
14/15   10th season to date

Net Transfer Spend last 5 Seasons

17th - Newcastle   Total £6.25million  Average per season £1.25 million

Conclusion? He overachieved.

Seems he was right about Ben Harfa as well and my god he was hammered for that.


Whilst I agree we could have spent more, especially with the TV money, the figures don't quite tell the whole story.

Those figures need to take into account the sales of Carroll for £35m and Cabaye for £20m. That and we are generally quite shrewd about our business.

Pardew has had plenty of international players come in during his time here.

You can't just rank everyone by net spend and say that's what their position should be. There's more to it than that.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on December 31, 2014, 10:52:42 AM
This is still my fav Pardew tale

“Let me tell you a story. In fact, it’s called the ‘King story’ among those who were present and who believe it’s a perfect example of Pardew’s arrogance. We were staying at a hotel in the North East ahead of a game at Sunderland during Alan’s first season in charge and were about to have our Friday evening meal.

The players were restricted to boiled chicken or pasta, or suchlike, whereas the rest of the West Ham party had the choice of the entire menu. I sat down with Pardew, kit manager Eddie Gillam, physiotherapist John Green and fitness coach Tony Strudwick, who now works for Manchester United and has done very well for himself. We ordered our meals and suddenly Pardew asked us all what we were having. I think Eddie said he’d gone for the chicken, while I’d chosen the steak. Pards then turned to Struds, who revealed whatever it was he’d asked for. ‘That sounds good,’ said Pards. ‘Tell you what; if yours is better than mine when it turns up, I’m having that.’ That was one of the things he’d always say: I’m having that. ‘See that bloke’s haircut? I’m having that.’ He said it all the time. Anyway, I wasn’t ‘having that’ at all. So I said, ‘Well, you’re certainly not having my dinner. You’ll get a fork in the back of your hand!’ Pardew sort of laughed, before turning back to Struds and saying, ‘Yeah, if yours is better than mine, I’m having that.’

Our meals eventually arrived and Pards looked at Tony and said, ‘Yeah, I was right, yours definitely looks much better than mine; I’m having that.’ And he went to swap the plates over. ‘You can’t do that!’ I said. ‘What do you mean?’ he asked. ‘You can’t just take somebody else’s dinner,’ I said in disbelief. And he replied, without any hint of a joke, ‘When you’re the King, you can do anything.’ Eddie, Tony, John and I just looked at each other and there was an uncomfortable silence for a moment. Struds was a nice guy but he could be a bit of a ‘yes man’ at times and so he just allowed Pardew to swap the plates.

However, the rest of us were flabbergasted by it all and we ended up discussing what had happened in the bar. Alan kept a straight face when referring to himself as ‘the King’ and I just couldn’t believe the arrogance of the man.”



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nirvana on December 31, 2014, 12:18:05 PM
Do the Newcastle fans think Pardew will keep Palace up this year?
Pardew takes them down..but its good to be king..me, i wanna be a knight


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DropTheHammer on December 31, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
Didn't he bench Tevez/Mascherano for large periods of their spell there too

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that West Ham were doing OK until these two actually joined, then performances/results suffered?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DropTheHammer on December 31, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
Considering Ashley's frugalness, and seemingly wanting to make a profit from his football club, I think the best NUFC fans can hope for would be a Harry Redknapp wheeler-dealer type who can bag transfer bargains. Redknapp's deal ends after this season so MA wouldn't have to pay up much of his contact, or could just tap him up and wait.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 31, 2014, 02:50:38 PM
We don't need a manager to get transfer bargains. We already have a scouting system that does that.

We need a manager who can make the most of the players he is given. Hopefully Carr has a big say in who we go for.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 31, 2014, 03:35:19 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30636616

"Much was made of supposed "over-expectation" from Newcastle's fans. This was unfair - they were not demanding a regular supply of silverware, simply some indication the club might fulfil that potential. Not actually too much to ask."


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 03, 2015, 11:35:27 AM
Officially gone :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2015, 11:36:52 AM
Officially gone :)

Unlucky, had a good run with him

Hope you find a replacement that can get close to his ability

good luck.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on January 03, 2015, 11:41:09 AM
The king has gone

In his own words anyway


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 03, 2015, 11:54:04 AM
Officially gone :)

Unlucky, had a good run with him

Hope you find a replacement that can get close to his ability

good luck.

Lol good one!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 03, 2015, 05:21:26 PM
Today's team sheet tells us 100% what we already expected with how much influence Mike Ashley has on team selection, gg another season at the start of January, lucky us that we performing way above expectation by not getting relegated, GTFI.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on January 03, 2015, 05:44:39 PM
Bet Pardew would have  got a result against Leicester.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
I doubt it. Not many of their players were very interested today, which surprises me (not getting into europe, not going down, so might as well try and win the fa cup. not sure they gave a toss though)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 05:46:16 PM
I doubt it. Not many of their players were very interested today, which surprises me (not getting into europe, not going down, so might as well try and win the fa cup. not sure they gave a toss though)

Not much good for anyone on Carver at 20s...

Bunch of mugs!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 03, 2015, 05:49:37 PM
Bet Pardew would have  got a result against Leicester.

Leicester have won a trophy in recent times and manage to sell out there match day pies charging £1 more than we do thus are clearly a bigger club than us, even Pep couldn't have got us a win today.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 03, 2015, 06:39:34 PM
5000 fans travelled to Leiscter today, many after Carver promised them he would put out our strongest team as he is a fan and wants to see us in Wembley again. He spoke passionately about how he was in the stands against Arsenal and Chelsea.

Fast forward to today and he leaves Perez, Sissoko, Colocini, Colback and Janmaat in Newcastle back at home.

You would think he may actually not want the job, the fans which will be the largest travelling support this week booed the players but it will end up being stupid Geordies for booing their players again.

In the 7 years Ashley has been here we've won 3 FA Cup Ties,


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nuros on January 03, 2015, 06:42:39 PM
Wow that's some stat pads won only 3 fa cup games in 7 years? damn, spose that's ashley all over tho :o


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 03, 2015, 06:43:36 PM
Bet Pardew would have  got a result against Leicester.


Lol how do we put people on mute on this forum? Its just such trolling.

I assume you don't remember us being knocked out against Stevenage? Or against Brighton? Pardews cup record for us was absolutely abysmal, in fact any game where he had to show a lot of passion and encouragement to the players he basically failed in, ie worst cup record of any manager we've had, worst derby record of any manager we've ever had, worst home record losses of any manager we've ever had, countless thrashings where we gave up after 30 minutes.

Unfortunately Carver loves Pardew and has the same ethics/opinions as him which if he will be given the job will no doubt fuck the rest of the season up.

It really is a bit of a joke if he gets the job, he has zero pedigree the fans unaminously hate him and people bought season tickets for a WHOLE season yet we're told, wait for summer, let us get the season out, we've been hearing this for the last 7 years. When Carroll was sold we had to wait 6 months, how about giving something back to the fans for once?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 03, 2015, 06:45:50 PM
Alan Pardew has lost 4 out of 5 FA Cup games as Newcastle United manager. Of the 4 eliminations, 3 were against lower league opposition.


In 8 games against the likes of Stevenage, Scunthorpe, Morecambe, Brighton and Hove Albion and Gillingham in the early rounds of the FA Cup and League Cup, Pardew’s Newcastle United have only outscored lower league opposition by 2 goals (GS 12 GC 10).

Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United was only the fourth top-flight team since the formation of the Premier League to lose to fourth-tier opposition.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on January 03, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
So Leicester made wholesale changes from their team that drew at Liverpool 48 hours earlier. In fact 6 of the subs at Liverpool started today. Understandable really - player fatigue, rotation, squad players get game,  Premier League more important  etc.

So Swansea made wholesale changes from their team that drew at QPR 48 hours earlier. In fact 6 of the subs at QPR started today. Understandable really - player fatigue, rotation, squad players get game,  Premier League more important etc.

So Newcastle made wholesale changes from their team that drew at home to Burnley. In fact 6 of the subs at home to Burnley started today. Understandable really - player fatigue, rotation, squad players get game,  Premier League more important etc

I understand disappointment with the performance and the result but the team selection appears to be pretty standard to me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 03, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html



‘Four years ago, I was in Tenerife watching the game against Stevenage and let me tell you, I was really disappointed - and I had a few beers as well,’ he said. ‘Listen, there has been an awful lot made about cup runs so let me say this: Every game I go into I want to win, so I will put the best team on the pitch that I possibly can to win the game.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html#ixzz3NnJ5UAex
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‘I know exactly how much it means to the fans to have a cup run because I am one of them.
‘I have been to an FA Cup final and a semi-final and I will never forget that reception. Although we lost to Manchester United in 1999, when we came out of the tunnel at Wembley, with our fans were behind us, it was quite emotional.
‘So I know exactly what it means. I have actually been in the stands when we lost to Arsenal in the final in 1998, so I know what it is like and how important it is. So to get back there is one of the most important things in my eyes.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html#ixzz3NnJ38P2k
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‘There’s no extra significance,’ said Carver, who has lost defender Steven Taylor for the remainder of the season with an Achilles injury. ‘I know how important it is to win a Premier League game and how important it is to win an FA Cup match too, so I have not thought of it any differently if we had won, drew or lost against Burnley.
‘I need to see what we have available and I will pick my strongest available side. But if I have three or four players who are carrying things, then that is obviously an issue. The team might pick itself.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html#ixzz3NnJCmsIf
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Again I'll reiterate. We know we're never going to compete in the premiership, thats normal with the way money works. What we would really love is to give it our all in the cups, if the club doesn't do it then we can moan at Ashley or whatever, but when we have a new manager who comes in and fills us with false hope and optimism then that is something different all together, especially when he's supposed to be one of us.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on January 04, 2015, 12:06:19 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html



‘Four years ago, I was in Tenerife watching the game against Stevenage and let me tell you, I was really disappointed - and I had a few beers as well,’ he said. ‘Listen, there has been an awful lot made about cup runs so let me say this: Every game I go into I want to win, so I will put the best team on the pitch that I possibly can to win the game.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html#ixzz3NnJ5UAex
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‘I know exactly how much it means to the fans to have a cup run because I am one of them.
‘I have been to an FA Cup final and a semi-final and I will never forget that reception. Although we lost to Manchester United in 1999, when we came out of the tunnel at Wembley, with our fans were behind us, it was quite emotional.
‘So I know exactly what it means. I have actually been in the stands when we lost to Arsenal in the final in 1998, so I know what it is like and how important it is. So to get back there is one of the most important things in my eyes.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html#ixzz3NnJ38P2k
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‘There’s no extra significance,’ said Carver, who has lost defender Steven Taylor for the remainder of the season with an Achilles injury. ‘I know how important it is to win a Premier League game and how important it is to win an FA Cup match too, so I have not thought of it any differently if we had won, drew or lost against Burnley.
‘I need to see what we have available and I will pick my strongest available side. But if I have three or four players who are carrying things, then that is obviously an issue. The team might pick itself.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2894975/John-Carver-play-Newcastle-s-best-XI-against-Leicester-bid-win-silverware.html#ixzz3NnJCmsIf
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Again I'll reiterate. We know we're never going to compete in the premiership, thats normal with the way money works. What we would really love is to give it our all in the cups, if the club doesn't do it then we can moan at Ashley or whatever, but when we have a new manager who comes in and fills us with false hope and optimism then that is something different all together, especially when he's supposed to be one of us.



Looking at those quotes your expectation of a stronger team is understandable. Amazed he has come out with that and then selected the team he did. 

But did he really fill you with hope and optimism? In light of your earlier comments about Carver I'd be surprised if that was the case.

At the end of the day the selection was standard which is a great shame for fans of all clubs who now seem to discount the FA CUP particulalry in the ealry stages. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 04, 2015, 12:20:53 AM
If I was a Leicester fan I would understand the decision to field a weakened team since they seem very likely to be in a relegation battle in March-April and survival is obv more important than a cup run in a competition that is going to be very hard for them to win. Swansea's manager fielded a weakened team as he believed the side was strong enough to get the win and they did. Newcastle currently sit on 27 points with 18 games still remaining, we are very unlikely to end up in a relegation battle in March-April (look forward to someone bumping this in a few months :) ), the bookies have NINE teams at shorter odds then us to go down, we won't get into Europe through the league so we look very likely to finish 8/9th-15/16th. So other than the possible exception of the Sunderland game in April this game today, in many fans minds, myself included, was the biggest game left in our season and we see fit to not even attempt to win it.

John Carver now has the image of a liar after being caretaker manager for two games since I and many others find it very hard to believe that Colo/Sissoko/Colback etc wouldn't have played today if it were a league game, great start to a new era (I fully expect him to be here until the end of the season at a minimum).


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on January 04, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
The arguement about being safe so giving the cup a go is irrelevant for the Ashley 'model'. Each league place is worth £750k so the finances would always be directing towards the league as an extra place is worth nearly as much as a final appearance in the FA cup (and 7 times more than a League cup win!).

Let's get a head coach in who can motivate and develop players and has a style of play that moves the ball round nicely with a focus weighted on scoring goals.

Having been hit with JFK in recent times I would not even bother suggesting or wishing for names...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 04, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
home to ipswich..

Southampton
23 Forster
16 Ward-Prowse
06 Fonte
05 Gardos
21 Bertrand
08 Davis
04 Schneiderlin Booked
12 Wanyama
11 Tadic (Isgrove - 65' )
07 Long
19 Pellè


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 04, 2015, 07:02:58 PM
you know what tilts me more than mindless trolling by kmac ITT.

people thinking that Galtier/de Boer/Benitez are realistic options.

we fucking all know we'll end up with someone that isn't currently offered by the bookies, because Ashley delights in doing things 'his way' so we'll end up with someone completely out of left field, so why we think someone like that would come, I have no fucking clue.

My current bet is someone like Nigel Worthington or Gary Johnson. At the end of the season, once Carver has had a chance to prove that he can pick the right teams and not rock the boat (cf: team he picked yday vs Leicester)

I obviously am not a Pardew fan - he's a fucking terrible manager for all the reasons pleno has mentioned, regardless of restrictions placed on the club by Fat Mike, but I don't see us improving the managerial situation and neither does Ashley. He saw the opportunity to get 2.5 million in (more than we spent on Perez and Sissoko combined, btw) - as well as saving himself 30k in wages every week, and took it, because it's purely business. As a result, it's an absolute million we pay any money to get any current working manager (maybe 100k tops, which ofc rules out almost every manager in the top divisions in Europe (and I probably include the top half of the championship as well).

Pleno is also correct that there are a lot of terrible teams in the league this year, so I don't know whether Pardew will save Palace or not. If he does, it won't be as a result of his skill or technical ability, he'll have fluked it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 04, 2015, 07:15:44 PM
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Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 07:21:55 PM
2 good bits of news this weekend then...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 04, 2015, 07:26:26 PM
2 good bits of news this weekend then...

could all have been so different. Idk whether it's exclusively that he's been managed poorly (which he undeniably has..) or the lad has problems of his own (v likely), but he should have been huge for us, bangs instead of whimpers. When he was on it he was absolutely different gravy, but those days so so few and far between.

maybe he'll sort his head out at Nice.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on January 04, 2015, 07:43:31 PM
you know what tilts me more than mindless trolling by kmac ITT.

, he'll have fluked it.

You call it trolling I call it reality.  Provincial club with a huge local fan base is all you are. 

You don't fluke keeping clubs in the league.  You may get lucky on occasion but its virtually impossible to fluke keeping a club up. 

Good result for Palace today. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 04, 2015, 07:47:23 PM
You cannot view the message from member "Kmac84" because he/she is on your blocked list.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 04, 2015, 07:48:32 PM
You cannot view the message from member "Kmac84" because he/she is a mindless, boring troll.

FTFY paddy.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 08:13:06 PM
2 good bits of news this weekend then...

could all have been so different. Idk whether it's exclusively that he's been managed poorly (which he undeniably has..) or the lad has problems of his own (v likely), but he should have been huge for us, bangs instead of whimpers. When he was on it he was absolutely different gravy, but those days so so few and far between.

maybe he'll sort his head out at Nice.

Very unlikely he does


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on January 04, 2015, 08:46:25 PM
The arguement about being safe so giving the cup a go is irrelevant for the Ashley 'model'. Each league place is worth £750k so the finances would always be directing towards the league as an extra place is worth nearly as much as a final appearance in the FA cup (and 7 times more than a League cup win!).

Let's get a head coach in who can motivate and develop players and has a style of play that moves the ball round nicely with a focus weighted on scoring goals.

Having been hit with JFK in recent times I would not even bother suggesting or wishing for names...

Not seen you on here for a while mate!

You'll finish mid table again. #analysis

Fwiw I rate Perez as one of the buys of the season (value for money)



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 04, 2015, 09:00:00 PM
2 good bits of news this weekend then...

could all have been so different. Idk whether it's exclusively that he's been managed poorly (which he undeniably has..) or the lad has problems of his own (v likely), but he should have been huge for us, bangs instead of whimpers. When he was on it he was absolutely different gravy, but those days so so few and far between.

maybe he'll sort his head out at Nice.

Very unlikely he does

yup, agreed. but i'm an optimist and i like the lad, so... :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 04, 2015, 09:16:47 PM
his stats are still way better than any midfielder we've had over the last 5 years (cabaye included) and the fact he sometimes doesn't track back surely doesnt matter that much, without him we've been beaten by 2+ goals countless times.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 09:35:46 PM
If it was just on the pitch ability that counted then you would have kept him

It's not though so you didn't

You can rest assured his agent has been trying to find him a new side for a while

The fact he went to hull and now nice tells you everything.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on January 05, 2015, 12:20:30 PM
If I was a Leicester fan I would understand the decision to field a weakened team since they seem very likely to be in a relegation battle in March-April and survival is obv more important than a cup run in a competition that is going to be very hard for them to win. Swansea's manager fielded a weakened team as he believed the side was strong enough to get the win and they did. Newcastle currently sit on 27 points with 18 games still remaining, we are very unlikely to end up in a relegation battle in March-April (look forward to someone bumping this in a few months :) ), the bookies have NINE teams at shorter odds then us to go down, we won't get into Europe through the league so we look very likely to finish 8/9th-15/16th. So other than the possible exception of the Sunderland game in April this game today, in many fans minds, myself included, was the biggest game left in our season and we see fit to not even attempt to win it.

John Carver now has the image of a liar after being caretaker manager for two games since I and many others find it very hard to believe that Colo/Sissoko/Colback etc wouldn't have played today if it were a league game, great start to a new era (I fully expect him to be here until the end of the season at a minimum).

Good post and I understand the argument. If I was a NUFC fan I'd be pretty hacked that there wasn't a concerted attempt to chase Cup glory.

I repeat however that weakened teams for early round FA Cup games are pretty standard albeit in your case due position in league etc it seems the standard should be ignored.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on January 05, 2015, 12:27:10 PM
The arguement about being safe so giving the cup a go is irrelevant for the Ashley 'model'. Each league place is worth £750k so the finances would always be directing towards the league as an extra place is worth nearly as much as a final appearance in the FA cup (and 7 times more than a League cup win!).

Let's get a head coach in who can motivate and develop players and has a style of play that moves the ball round nicely with a focus weighted on scoring goals.

Having been hit with JFK in recent times I would not even bother suggesting or wishing for names...

Interesting and a plausible explanation for the Ashley model.

One correction tho - in 2013/2014 the prize per place in the Premier League was £1,236,083 which reinforces your argument. 10th place was worth 13.6 million for Newcastle and compares to about  4.9 million for 17th.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on January 05, 2015, 12:34:34 PM
home to ipswich..

Southampton
23 Forster
16 Ward-Prowse
06 Fonte
05 Gardos
21 Bertrand
08 Davis
04 Schneiderlin Booked
12 Wanyama
11 Tadic (Isgrove - 65' )
07 Long
19 Pellè

Presumably you have posted this to refute my position that large rotation for early FA Cup matches is standard.  Why post the one exception to the norm?

Having said that it is an interesting example because you might recall Southampton fans were up in arms last season when they were knocked out of the FA Cup with a weakened team when totally secure in the League.

Looking at all Premier teams yesterday in the Cup:

Number of changes from starting 11 that played on New Years Day:

QPR 7
Sunderland 6
Villa 5
City 6
Stoke 7
United 6
Chelsea 8
Arsenal 5
Southampton 2




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 05, 2015, 01:28:37 PM
home to ipswich..

Southampton
23 Forster
16 Ward-Prowse
06 Fonte
05 Gardos
21 Bertrand
08 Davis
04 Schneiderlin Booked
12 Wanyama
11 Tadic (Isgrove - 65' )
07 Long
19 Pellè

Presumably you have posted this to refute my position that large rotation for early FA Cup matches is standard.  Why post the one exception to the norm?

Having said that it is an interesting example because you might recall Southampton fans were up in arms last season when they were knocked out of the FA Cup with a weakened team when totally secure in the League.

Looking at all Premier teams yesterday in the Cup:

Number of changes from starting 11 that played on New Years Day:

QPR 7
Sunderland 6
Villa 5
City 6
Stoke 7
United 6
Chelsea 8
Arsenal 5
Southampton 2




Sunderland made 6 changes, but ironically, i think we had a better team out in the Cup.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 05, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
home to ipswich..

Southampton
23 Forster
16 Ward-Prowse
06 Fonte
05 Gardos
21 Bertrand
08 Davis
04 Schneiderlin Booked
12 Wanyama
11 Tadic (Isgrove - 65' )
07 Long
19 Pellè

Presumably you have posted this to refute my position that large rotation for early FA Cup matches is standard.  Why post the one exception to the norm?

Having said that it is an interesting example because you might recall Southampton fans were up in arms last season when they were knocked out of the FA Cup with a weakened team when totally secure in the League.

Looking at all Premier teams yesterday in the Cup:

Number of changes from starting 11 that played on New Years Day:

QPR 7
Sunderland 6
Villa 5
City 6
Stoke 7
United 6
Chelsea 8
Arsenal 5
Southampton 2




How manny of hose teams with the changes were not
Favourites to win the game? Changing players against Dover, yeovil or Leeds is different to another premiereague team.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on January 05, 2015, 01:49:56 PM
Also think United, Chelsea Man City and Chelsea will rotate due to squad size and challenging near the top.

Sunderland qpr villa all involved in possible relegation battle and playing lower league teams.

Think it's ridiculous for Newcastle not to put out their strongest team.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on January 05, 2015, 11:06:59 PM


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How manny of hose teams with the changes were not
Favourites to win the game? Changing players against Dover, yeovil or Leeds is different to another premiereague team.

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All I'm saying is it is "standard" but as I've also said if I supported Newcastle I would want them to play the strongest team.

But let's also remember you were playing the bottom team in the Premier  who have won  1 of their 9 home league games and also lost at home in the League Cup. Then they rotated heavily as well and were significantly weaker. Guess that made you favourite to win the tie even with your changes...



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ironside on January 06, 2015, 02:09:38 AM


Quote

How manny of hose teams with the changes were not
Favourites to win the game? Changing players against Dover, yeovil or Leeds is different to another premiereague team.


All I'm saying is it is "standard" but as I've also said if I supported Newcastle I would want them to play the strongest team.

But let's also remember you were playing the bottom team in the Premier  who have won  1 of their 9 home league games and also lost at home in the League Cup. Then they rotated heavily as well and were significantly weaker. Guess that made you favourite to win the tie even with your changes...



yeah but without the guidance of pardew newcastle are going to struggle to pick up any more points


ok that was a blatant troll by me sorry if i caused any offence



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 06, 2015, 05:08:27 PM
what do you think about Sissokho to PSG?

i expect you'll be frustrated about selling in January again, after Cabaye and wouldn't be expecting to replace him with similar quality


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on January 06, 2015, 05:48:51 PM
what do you think about Sissokho to PSG?

i expect you'll be frustrated about selling in January again, after Cabaye and wouldn't be expecting to replace him with similar quality

He is going to spend a lot of time joining Cabaye on the bench!

Amazed another premier league side have not been sniffing for a loan deal


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 06, 2015, 07:26:07 PM
It will be a good piece of business, he's generally overrated and we will get a lot of money for him. However when it's not reinvested back into the club it's like selling him for 2-3m pounds. Frustrating as you can imagine.

It we spend 15m on a few players hand picked by Carr then it will be a good sell as typically he can get 30ms worth of players for 15m and we will selling them on in a few years and around the system goes...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on January 06, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2230667/hatem-ben-arfa-last-chance-to-prove-his-class-at-nice-andy-brassell

A good read on Ben Arfa agree with most of it



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on January 06, 2015, 07:36:11 PM
Is Ashley more concerned with Rangers now than Newcastle?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on January 06, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
Is Ashley more concerned with Rangers now than Newcastle?

Course he is.  He likes buying things which are under priced and selling them when they are over priced like all good businessmen.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 06, 2015, 09:07:40 PM
Which is essentially the case with Sissoko.

We do generally reinvest transfer fees pleno. It's the tv money etc that vanishes.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 06, 2015, 09:26:17 PM
Which is essentially the case with Sissoko.

We do generally reinvest transfer fees pleno. It's the tv money etc that vanishes.

Carroll, Cabaye, etc etc etc...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 06, 2015, 09:30:18 PM
I'd hate to sell sissoko tbh, he's our most threatening attacking midfielder by an absolute mile, wouldn't wanna be relying on goufrann and ameobi.


Out of consideration, what would nufc fans on here pick as our 'first 11'  considering one of pardews big leaks was his team selection let's say everyone is fit

I think I'd go ( I've picked the formation we use as I'm not a manager and not sure what would work better )

Krul

Janmaat colo dummett haidara

Colback abeid

Cabella/ameobi sissoko Aarons
      
       Perez


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 07, 2015, 11:04:48 AM
Which is essentially the case with Sissoko.

We do generally reinvest transfer fees pleno. It's the tv money etc that vanishes.

Carroll, Cabaye, etc etc etc...

Has all gone back through. Someone posted a few pages back that our net spend was something like £6m over 4 years. It's because we've spent the money coming in and that's pretty much it.

I get that that's more sustainable than throwing money at a team and it's one thing I don't mind.

Hopefully though the club have learned their lessons that replacements should be lined up. e.g. we did well to replace Debuchy with Janmaat.

What does irk though is there's currently no mention of what's happening to the TV money. Our accounts should be interesting when they come out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Honeybadger on January 10, 2015, 04:33:37 PM
I'm at Stamford Bridge this afternoon, sitting with the Chelsea supporters. Newcastle are ridiculously unlucky to be losing (it's half time as I type this). Been much the better team. Sissoko and Cabella terrorising the Chelsea defence. This is the best I've seen Cabella play ever. He is seemingly dribbling through the Chelsea defence at will. Hope we continue to play this well in the second half.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 10, 2015, 04:37:11 PM
I'm at Stamford Bridge this afternoon, sitting with the Chelsea supporters. Newcastle are ridiculously unlucky to be losing (it's half time as I type this). Been much the better team. Sissoko and Cabella terrorising the Chelsea defence. This is the best I've seen Cabella play ever. He is seemingly dribbling through the Chelsea defence at will. Hope we continue to play this well in the second half.

yeah its amazing what happens when you play your 10m marquee signing from the start of the game instead of for the last 5 minutes huh? :D

Enjoy the match mate.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Honeybadger on January 10, 2015, 10:25:15 PM
Tbh Chelsea crushed us in the second half. We didn't even play bad, more that we didn't really get to play. Chelsea were completely dominant without being sensational. Fair enough, they outclassed us which is not exactly a big shock. But still our first half performance was excellent, and it bodes well for the future - especially with Cabella having such a good 45 minutes.

Sissoko really is a beast. I guess he'll be gone before the end of the window though :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 11, 2015, 05:35:05 AM
Tbh Chelsea crushed us in the second half. We didn't even play bad, more that we didn't really get to play. Chelsea were completely dominant without being sensational. Fair enough, they outclassed us which is not exactly a big shock. But still our first half performance was excellent, and it bodes well for the future - especially with Cabella having such a good 45 minutes.

Sissoko really is a beast. I guess he'll be gone before the end of the window though :(

all of this


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 11, 2015, 09:54:12 AM
Remi Garde is looking increasingly likely to happen.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 21, 2015, 10:25:39 AM
Article by Lee Charnley out.

Proof will come from the appointment but talk of not wanting a traditional English manager is encouraging. Hopefully rules out Carver.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on January 21, 2015, 01:40:13 PM
Carver getting some hefty bets.  Assume this would enrage the thread!??


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 21, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Yes of course it would.

He's in no way qualified for the job. His short managerial track record is awful and his spells as caretaker for us have been poor also.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 21, 2015, 03:35:17 PM
Isn't he getting some bets because places pay out after he has been in charge for a certain number games? Something like 10 or 12 games and its looks increasingly likely he'll either be kept on permanent or at least till the end of the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 26, 2015, 05:02:20 PM
Carver confirmed till end of season, no shock there, no doubt we offer him contract then, comical


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 26, 2015, 05:06:58 PM
Wow


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on January 26, 2015, 05:33:50 PM
How can we be the same price as Everton to get relegated, no way that's the case. (for Arbboy's benefit I'm saying Everton are clearly much less likely to go down than we are)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on January 27, 2015, 12:41:33 AM
Carver confirmed till end of season, no shock there, no doubt we offer him contract then, comical

no surprises whatsoever.

so incred predictable. as soon as Charnley did that blind monkey Chron 'exclusive' you knew this announcement was days away.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on January 27, 2015, 01:03:34 PM
How can we be the same price as Everton to get relegated, no way that's the case. (for Arbboy's benefit I'm saying Everton are clearly much less likely to go down than we are)

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

both at 33/1 are decent bets.  People are asking for much less than 25/1 on betfair for both teams to go down.  ty for marking my card and forcing me to have a look at this market.  I don't expect many people to follow me in on here but 33/1 on your mob to go down is worth a bet. 

You are right though Everton are a better team than Newcastle and should be priced as such to go down.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 30, 2015, 09:48:29 AM
Newcastle fan Kevin Doocey expresses his unhappiness at the appointment of John Carver. http://btfr.co/NewcastleCarver 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 01, 2015, 05:33:26 AM
So we play our attacking midfielder who we bought for 12m from the start instead of his average of 7 minutes and look what happens we win 3-0 and our biggest win in 12 months.

Who would have thought?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on February 01, 2015, 09:42:56 AM
Newcastle fan Kevin Doocey expresses his unhappiness at the appointment of John Carver. http://btfr.co/NewcastleCarver 

Over-confident maybe?
I know I speak for 90+% of Newcastle fans...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on February 01, 2015, 09:49:59 AM
Newcastle fan Kevin Doocey expresses his unhappiness at the appointment of John Carver. http://btfr.co/NewcastleCarver  

Over-confident maybe?
I know I speak for 90+% of Newcastle fans...

I started to read the article, but quit when I got to that part.

How can he possibly know that? He can't.

If he had said "a lot of fans", or "I reckon", fine, but he just destroys any credibility when he says dumb things like that.

Utter drivel. That's what I reckon, of course. ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2015, 03:30:41 AM
nice one pardew you absolute cretin

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2281708/remy-cabella-voted-espn-fc-player-of-the-month-for-january


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on February 06, 2015, 08:11:11 AM
nice one pardew you absolute cretin

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2281708/remy-cabella-voted-espn-fc-player-of-the-month-for-january

More balanced comments from Newcastle fans here

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/remy-cabella-better-lionel-messi-8585100 (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/remy-cabella-better-lionel-messi-8585100)




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 06, 2015, 10:32:21 AM
"Cabella has picked up a pair of man of the match awards and powered his side to two wins in their last three matches."

Not strictly true that is it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on February 08, 2015, 04:39:26 PM
Not sure how we effectively just lost that game, Jesus christ.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on February 08, 2015, 05:01:08 PM
Will Big Mike's next loan to Rangers be 40,000 Newcastle fans?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on February 08, 2015, 05:31:33 PM
Not sure how we effectively just lost that game, Jesus christ.

abs joke.

let's bring of Remy for a half fit Obertan.

sure does make sense John. Are you Pardew in disguise? (prolly not, Pards starts Gabby over remy and replaces him with a leftback)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on February 11, 2015, 05:26:11 PM
De Jong... Who was close to returning... Has now been ruled out for another 8 week with a collapsed lung, we've been sold an absolute bag of spammers. How do these guys pass Medicaid


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on February 11, 2015, 05:29:32 PM
Also, absolutely dreading losing to palace tonight


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on February 11, 2015, 05:37:40 PM
Also, absolutely dreading losing to palace tonight


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on February 12, 2015, 09:55:44 AM
At least we didn't get beat. Worrying quote from Carver though:  "It's another game unbeaten, that's one win, three draws and two defeats now, which is not bad in this league."


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on February 12, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
Why is that worrying? Seems pretty fair given the squad


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on February 12, 2015, 10:10:42 AM
Why is that worrying? Seems pretty fair given the squad

Given the opposition. And the fact we conceded late again (cost us 7pts this year) v Stoke.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on February 12, 2015, 11:19:28 AM
6 points from 6 being seen as "not bad" isn't worrying? That's 38 points per season...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Kmac84 on February 21, 2015, 07:19:18 PM
Newcastle appear to be doing much better without Pardew.

On the plus side MASH is doing some cracking bargains through Sports Direct and as he is getting it right up The Rangers support I am happy  to support his Sports Direct empire.   


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on February 21, 2015, 09:43:44 PM
pardew left?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on February 21, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
pardew left?

You woulsbt notice except for the board statement to press to 'support the manager' last week...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on March 02, 2015, 07:02:57 PM
Oh no Adam Johnson...


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on March 04, 2015, 10:19:11 PM
I'd investigate our players for betting against us, it's not possible to be that shit to gift United goal


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 04, 2015, 11:45:44 PM
Oh no Adam Johnson...

First time hes got into the box early all year.

The derby's gonna be majestic like.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 20, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
Doubt watching us could be anymore depressing

Is there a centre back in the prem as bad as Williamson ?

How does goufrann get in the squad ?

There's about 4 players in our starting 11 that want to stay up, rest don't seem bothered


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on April 20, 2015, 07:31:09 PM
Your chairman doesn't seem to care either


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kpnuts on May 02, 2015, 02:09:25 PM
Sympathetic Foxes fans chanting "You fat cockney bastard, get out of their club" at halftime :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on May 04, 2015, 02:12:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEKXjiDWEAEjsaa.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 04, 2015, 02:32:40 PM
When is the wally with the brolly turning up to save the Magpies?  He did an amazing job of tanking the play offs to avoid being otherwise engaged for the next 3 weeks.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: exstream on May 04, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
Anyone think Newcastle are a decent price vs Qpr who will be fighting for nothing in couple weeks?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 04, 2015, 02:34:10 PM
Anyone think Newcastle are a decent price vs Qpr who will be fighting for nothing in couple weeks?

Was just looking at that myself thinking the same thing.  Brolly will probably be in charge by then aswell.  Shame i have already laid a blonde 2/1 QPR in the game months ago!

The spreads have them in finishing 6th from bottom yet they are 4th favs to go down.  They seem a good lay at the prices to go down the Geordies.  Big over reaction to the fact they already have 35 points in the bag and are expected, on average, to pick up a further 3.5 points from their remaining games.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 04, 2015, 03:14:09 PM
Anyone think Newcastle are a decent price vs Qpr who will be fighting for nothing in couple weeks?

Was just looking at that myself thinking the same thing.  Brolly will probably be in charge by then aswell.  Shame i have already laid a blonde 2/1 QPR in the game months ago!

The spreads have them in finishing 6th from bottom yet they are 4th favs to go down.  They seem a good lay at the prices to go down the Geordies.  Big over reaction to the fact they already have 35 points in the bag and are expected, on average, to pick up a further 3.5 points from their remaining games.

think 3.5 generous without wally and brolly. :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 04, 2015, 03:19:24 PM
I am trying to lay newc at 5/1 on bf currently.  5/1 is top price with firms.  If anyone wants to back them at 5/1 pm me and i will be able to save the commission on bf.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 04, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
Anyone think Newcastle are a decent price vs Qpr who will be fighting for nothing in couple weeks?

Was just looking at that myself thinking the same thing.  Brolly will probably be in charge by then aswell.  Shame i have already laid a blonde 2/1 QPR in the game months ago!

The spreads have them in finishing 6th from bottom yet they are 4th favs to go down.  They seem a good lay at the prices to go down the Geordies.  Big over reaction to the fact they already have 35 points in the bag and are expected, on average, to pick up a further 3.5 points from their remaining games.

Because anyone who has watched them knows that if they play like they have they get zero. Games arent played on paper.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 04, 2015, 04:22:58 PM
Anyone think Newcastle are a decent price vs Qpr who will be fighting for nothing in couple weeks?

Was just looking at that myself thinking the same thing.  Brolly will probably be in charge by then aswell.  Shame i have already laid a blonde 2/1 QPR in the game months ago!

The spreads have them in finishing 6th from bottom yet they are 4th favs to go down.  They seem a good lay at the prices to go down the Geordies.  Big over reaction to the fact they already have 35 points in the bag and are expected, on average, to pick up a further 3.5 points from their remaining games.

Because anyone who has watched them knows that if they play like they have they get zero. Games arent played on paper.

lolz


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 04, 2015, 04:26:32 PM
no chance of wally or brolly, according to lolworthy club statement just released.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32582358


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 05, 2015, 01:15:35 PM
Haha mclaren even turned down an offer to manage us, how bad are we!

Do we think he would've thought about it if Ashley wasn't here


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2015, 07:23:12 PM
An Open Letter From The Captain

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20150505/an-open-letter-from-the-captain_2281670_4693743


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on May 06, 2015, 08:23:53 AM
An Open Letter From The Club's PR Firm

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20150505/an-open-letter-from-the-captain_2281670_4693743

fixed that for you Tighty.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 06, 2015, 09:35:25 AM
Haha mclaren even turned down an offer to manage us, how bad are we!

Do we think he would've thought about it if Ashley wasn't here

Derby bigger club innit. Twice top league champions and European cup semi finals years after the last time the Geordies won anything. ;D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 06, 2015, 04:09:35 PM
Absolutely shameless.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 09, 2015, 12:25:14 PM
Bad state of affairs when I feel we need to rely on Everton and Burnley today more than ourselves :(

Would snap take a point today


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: OHCARRION on May 09, 2015, 04:54:24 PM
Thought they were down but perhaps not yet!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 09, 2015, 05:30:51 PM
Somehow chuffed with them results, at half time I was suicidle.

Be something from hull to get 2 points or more from Spurs and United


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 09, 2015, 05:44:06 PM
Somehow chuffed with them results, at half time I was suicidle.

Be something from hull to get 2 points or more from Spurs and United

and the geordies not get anything from their last two games.  They are safe.  Relax.  7/1 to go down is a cracking lay.  Get stuck in.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 25, 2015, 12:05:46 PM
What an absolutely horrible season, yet ended so well.

So many changes needed.

Btw how good were Anita and Gutierrez yesterday, showed some heart to say they ain't first team players


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on June 09, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Southgate on McClaren to nufc: "It's great for Steve. A great appointment. He's very undervalued in this country in the way he's perceived"

views on the appointment?

expectations for the summer?

what do you want steve to do to the squad, given a likely budget....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on June 09, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
It's a bit of a meh appointment although certainly an improvement over Pardew. We do seem to have a thing for employing managers sacked from lower league teams. He's at least had high points in his career so hopefully another one here.

Squad wise we need at least three defenders (Janmaat is the only one really good enough), a few midfielders, and a striker.

We're apparently now able to "punch above our weight" but I'll believe that when I see it.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on June 09, 2015, 11:57:19 AM
It could be a lot worse. Cons are that he has been sacked from his last 4 jobs and failed to deliver with one if England's most talented crop of players.

Pros are that somewhere somebody thought he was talented enough to be England manager without much previous pedigree.

I'd like to sign the following

Goalkeeper: jack butland (sell Krul, net profit on deal)
Defenders: Micah Richards, Steven Caulker
Midfielders: Leeroy Fer, Mohammed Diame
Strikers: Charlie Austin and one of Patrick Bamford / Jesse Lingard

Sell: tiote, sissoko, Cisse

buy/: 2/3 others from French league.

Need to aim to finish 10th and have a good young team with some
Promising talents and a good run in the cup.

Not aiming for Europe just hoping to compete and play attacking football.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on June 09, 2015, 12:02:32 PM
It could be a lot worse. Cons are that he has been sacked from his last 4 jobs and failed to deliver with one if England's most talented crop of players.

Pros are that somewhere somebody thought he was talented enough to be England manager without much previous pedigree.

I'd like to sign the following

Goalkeeper: jack butland (sell Krul, net profit on deal)
Defenders: Micah Richards, Steven Caulker
Midfielders: Leeroy Fer, Mohammed Diame
Strikers: Charlie Austin and one of Patrick Bamford / Jesse Lingard

Sell: tiote, sissoko, Cisse

buy/: 2/3 others from French league.

Need to aim to finish 10th and have a good young team with some
Promising talents and a good run in the cup.

Not aiming for Europe just hoping to compete and play attacking football.

You are welcome to Caulker.

Woeful last season, slow, positionally unaware and for a big fella, he was outmuscled far too often.

Amongst all the signings last summer, I was most pleased with Caulker. He was a bitter disappointment.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on June 09, 2015, 12:03:32 PM
And Leroy Fer wasn't much better.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on June 09, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
You are more likely to sign Bergovic than Butland imo from Stoke.  No idea how you think Krul would command a bigger fee than Butland either.  You would be a big net spender imo if you did those two deals.

Think it is a great appointment.  Cheap for Ashley as he doesn't have to pay any compensation.  Under rated gaffer in this country with a point to prove at the top level.  What do the fans think of his mboro connection?

what has happened to Carver?  Booted totally or put back into the bootroom?  Is SMac bringing in his own entire backroom team?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on June 09, 2015, 12:27:27 PM
You are more likely to sign Bergovic than Butland imo from Stoke.  No idea how you think Krul would command a bigger fee than Butland either.  You would be a big net spender imo if you did those two deals.

Think it is a great appointment.  Cheap for Ashley as he doesn't have to pay any compensation.  Under rated gaffer in this country with a point to prove at the top level.  What do the fans think of his mboro connection?

what has happened to Carver?  Booted totally or put back into the bootroom?  Is SMac bringing in his own entire backroom team?

Dont care about the boro connection, other than boro didnt really like him as he was a bit negative (most fans I know celebrated england taking him). There isnt a massive rivalry like the sunderland one. Thought he did a great job in holland against the grain, not expecting miracles but this is a similar job where hes outgunned and needs to punch above their weight.

I hope he gets a bit more input then pardew did on transfers as he may be to give us a bit of a tougher core then carr bringing in froggies who wilt under the pressure. Mix in a few steady prem players with our decent record of french/continental signings, might give us a bit of consistency. (our results from last 5 years have to be the most unbalanced in prem).

Carver wont go, ashley is loyal to his cronies. He'll move somewhere or be back after a while minimum (running a sports direct stock liquidation near you soon)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on June 09, 2015, 01:26:25 PM
Caulker?

Presume you watched zero of him at qpr made Clint hill look ok


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on June 09, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Stand corrected carver and stone leave. Surprising after the grubby work raisin face has had to do.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on June 09, 2015, 04:00:46 PM
BREAKING: BBC Newcastle understands John Carver & Steve Stone have lost their jobs at Newcastle United

edit. john got there first


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on June 09, 2015, 06:12:49 PM
Very pleased that Mclaren is getting to bring his own staff in, just makes him look weak right from the start if he took the job being forced to keep people he didn't choose, or probably want.

Lets see what the Summer brings now.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ironside on June 09, 2015, 06:23:14 PM
the wally with a brolly managing the team where the fans dont wear jackets?

i


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on June 10, 2015, 08:40:52 AM
Carver and Stone getting the boot is excellent news.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on June 10, 2015, 04:46:53 PM
this is a bit odd isn't it?

"Steve McClaren gagged from speaking to any media outlet other than @SkySportsNewsHQ and @DailyMirror - #nufc's preferred media partners..."

why would the club do this?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 12, 2015, 01:10:19 PM
Hard not to be encouraged by the recent signing, hopefully get get a striker and a couple of defenders 'over the line' aswell. Season can't possibly be as bad as last year can it? 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on July 12, 2015, 01:23:45 PM
Hard not to be encouraged by the recent signing, hopefully get get a striker and a couple of defenders 'over the line' aswell. Season can't possibly be as bad as last year can it? 

Bit worried we are focussing on strikers too much. Ofc we need another but given the choice id take 2 good CBs and hold on to Moussa.

Wijnaldum had a great year for PSV but can he do it on a Monday night in Stoke?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 12, 2015, 02:48:47 PM
Yea, as much as I think sissoko was abit of a flop last season and he didn't seem to have much fight we need to be adding to the squad not just 3 in 3 out or whatever. Defenders are top of the list for me aswell, not been linked with much in that department though, looking like we might be getting mitrovic from anderlecht this week


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on July 13, 2015, 09:08:47 AM
I'm happy we now have a competent coaching setup.

If you listen to the interviews you'll see the players having digs at Pardew and Carver.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on July 13, 2015, 09:09:13 AM
Or should that be hear? Hmm.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 18, 2015, 02:01:03 PM
Mitrovic on his way for medical, from what I've seen he will be a great signing


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on July 18, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Mitrovic on his way for medical, from what I've seen he will be a great signing

Is it one or the other with austin? Seem to have reports of both being close.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 18, 2015, 02:15:53 PM
I can't work out if someone from Newcastle said something about Austin to hurry mitrovic into making his mind up, think he was debating between us Porto and roma, would love us to get Austin too tho. Sell cisse


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on July 18, 2015, 02:18:34 PM
I can't work out if someone from Newcastle said something about Austin to hurry mitrovic into making his mind up, think he was debating between us Porto and roma, would love us to get Austin too tho. Sell cisse

Yeah deffo take them both, but still not seen much on the gapping holes in our defence, and hope it wouldnt have a knockon effect on who we get there. Seems we offered more money than porto, they must be proper grim if thats the case.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 21, 2015, 06:04:57 PM
Yea, as much as I think sissoko was abit of a flop last season and he didn't seem to have much fight we need to be adding to the squad not just 3 in 3 out or whatever. Defenders are top of the list for me aswell, not been linked with much in that department though, looking like we might be getting mitrovic from anderlecht this week


V excited with this guy, interviews of him years ago raving about Newcastle and shearer. Wearing his Newcastle shirt in his hotel before he was even announced, shows abit of passion, something alot of our players lack.

Also signing his mate from anderlecht although there's issues over how old he actually is hahaa


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on July 21, 2015, 06:15:47 PM
Yea, as much as I think sissoko was abit of a flop last season and he didn't seem to have much fight we need to be adding to the squad not just 3 in 3 out or whatever. Defenders are top of the list for me aswell, not been linked with much in that department though, looking like we might be getting mitrovic from anderlecht this week


V excited with this guy, interviews of him years ago raving about Newcastle and shearer. Wearing his Newcastle shirt in his hotel before he was even announced, shows abit of passion, something alot of our players lack.

Also signing his mate from anderlecht although there's issues over how old he actually is hahaa

yeah think he has undone some of the poor rep his dad has gained through the saga by looking like he really wants to play for the club.

Like look of other guy, not sure about the age thing, but don't think the club that signed martins can really comment lol. As long as he's not a taribo west job, it'll be ok.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 21, 2015, 06:28:09 PM
Saw a video of mbemba, unbelievable pace for a big centre back. Can fk willo off because he is the absolute worst, championship player at best


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on July 21, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
Yea, as much as I think sissoko was abit of a flop last season and he didn't seem to have much fight we need to be adding to the squad not just 3 in 3 out or whatever. Defenders are top of the list for me aswell, not been linked with much in that department though, looking like we might be getting mitrovic from anderlecht this week


V excited with this guy, interviews of him years ago raving about Newcastle and shearer. Wearing his Newcastle shirt in his hotel before he was even announced, shows abit of passion, something alot of our players lack.

Also signing his mate from anderlecht although there's issues over how old he actually is hahaa

yeah think he has undone some of the poor rep his dad has gained through the saga by looking like he really wants to play for the club.

Like look of other guy, not sure about the age thing, but don't think the club that signed martins can really comment lol. As long as he's not a taribo west job, it'll be ok.



Agree with this, obv has the passion and tbh must have to be picking us over Roma!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on July 21, 2015, 08:39:54 PM
Saw a video of mbemba, unbelievable pace for a big centre back. Can fk willo off because he is the absolute worst, championship player at best

superb on the ball

has a rick in him but pace gets him out of it most of time, the ball will be played out through him at all times


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on July 26, 2015, 06:51:48 PM
Chaps - Sporting Index have set the line at about 42 for season points for Newcastle.  This is significantly lower than recent years after the Carver debacle (think they were going off at 46+ under Pardew).  I'm thinking this might be an over-reaction now with Schteve in place and a few big signings.

Thoughts on unders/overs on this?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on July 26, 2015, 07:32:39 PM
Chaps - Sporting Index have set the line at about 42 for season points for Newcastle.  This is significantly lower than recent years after the Carver debacle (think they were going off at 46+ under Pardew).  I'm thinking this might be an over-reaction now with Schteve in place and a few big signings.

Thoughts on unders/overs on this?

Would expect around 50 point mark, if they keep doing business they should be solid mid table. They scored 39 last season so seems the upside is a fair bit better than the downside?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 27, 2015, 06:15:27 PM
Got a kid on way in December, having a baby girl, acceptable to put her in Newcastle tops from the off?  £30 for the new top Size 2-4 month.... Jesus ha


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 09, 2015, 01:04:01 AM
Would snap take draw tomorrow, don't think mbemba and mitrovic are match fit yet. Joke tough start to season coming up.

Like how mclaren has handled himself and media since he joined.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 09, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
What a great game that was. Point seems a fair result in the end. Very impressed with Newcastle.

Mitrovic could have been off after 5 seconds!



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on August 09, 2015, 09:21:56 PM
What a great game that was. Point seems a fair result in the end. Very impressed with Newcastle.

Mitrovic could have been off after 5 seconds!



Same old weaknesses. Can't defend set pieces or in the air generally. Get 2-1 up and then sit back.

Point a fair result but we might have won it if it wasn't for tiote having to come on for Anita.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 10, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
Fml, booked two tickets for arsenal home game less than 2 hours ago, Mrs comes home and reminded me we're away that weekend, anyone here wanna buy them? 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on August 10, 2015, 07:11:53 PM
I'm in the home end with my Geordie Misses for the Newcastle v Watford game.  I can manage not cheering Watford goals but do I have to cheer Geordie goals to avoid a bashing?  This seems to vary club to club.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 10, 2015, 07:14:41 PM
I'm in the home end with my Geordie Misses for the Newcastle v Watford game.  I can manage not cheering Watford goals but do I have to cheer Geordie goals to avoid a bashing?  This seems to vary club to club.

i had to sit in the newcastle main stand once, and we lost 2-0

sat on my hands, didn't move a muscle all game and was seriously regretting it throughout. fortunately we never looked like scoring so there were no involuntary jump ups or exclamations

second only to doing it at Leeds, which at the time was the only way i could get a ticket


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on August 10, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
Oh dear.  Guess cheering Newcastle goals it is then!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 10, 2015, 07:25:00 PM
I'm a Newcastle fan from Manchester, watched us beat United in their stand, can't explain how hard it was, stayed sat down when United scored a goal (was disallowed)
Also watched us win at etihad last season in city end in cup, not as satisfying but still good


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on August 10, 2015, 07:33:29 PM
Fml, booked two tickets for arsenal home game less than 2 hours ago, Mrs comes home and reminded me we're away that weekend, anyone here wanna buy them? 

Would imagine it will sell out so they'll probably be happy to take them back, ring the club and find out but think that's how it works.

Otherwise there's some official site for selling Newcastle tickets to, could try there.

Doubt I know anyone who'd take them but if you have no joy PM me and will try.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on August 10, 2015, 10:57:42 PM
I'm in the home end with my Geordie Misses for the Newcastle v Watford game.  I can manage not cheering Watford goals but do I have to cheer Geordie goals to avoid a bashing?  This seems to vary club to club.

Depends quite a lot where you're sitting, but you'll basically be fine. If you say you're a Watford fan and the missus is a Geordie you'll likely get some ribbing, but unless you're sat with the knackers you'll be fine saying nowt and not celebrating ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on August 10, 2015, 10:59:43 PM
Apparently the PSV left back Willens (sp?) was spotted at Soton game and instagrammd 'flying to the future' and Shakira's Swiss Homophone was on his way to SJP per 'sky sources'... Who now claim he has in fact signed for Stoke. Good signing for them that.

Why aren't they centre backs?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 10, 2015, 11:28:40 PM
I'm a Newcastle fan from Manchester, watched us beat United in their stand, can't explain how hard it was, stayed sat down when United scored a goal (was disallowed)
Also watched us win at etihad last season in city end in cup, not as satisfying but still good

Im a Sunderland fan and watched the derby circa 2005 10 rows infront of the Sunderland fans. It was the derby we got beat 3-2, think Ameobi scored twice and Emre once. It went 1-0 1-1 2-1 2-2 3-2. And then Liam Laurence was played in over the top and tried to chip the keeper and hit the cross bar. I was about a second away from saying "fuck this, I can't take anymore, just give me the beating now"

Never, ever, again.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 10, 2015, 11:50:12 PM
Jesus that is risky


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on August 13, 2015, 02:35:45 PM
youre being linked with our CB Lewis Dunk, would be a good move for him, around 4-5M


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on August 13, 2015, 08:45:31 PM
youre being linked with our CB Lewis Dunk, would be a good move for him, around 4-5M

Apparently we'll offer Iron Mike in part ex. Bad business for you even if we give you £40m then ;)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 22, 2015, 12:09:38 AM
Fml, booked two tickets for arsenal home game less than 2 hours ago, Mrs comes home and reminded me we're away that weekend, anyone here wanna buy them? 

Club give refunds if you return 72 hours before kick off, chuffed


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 01:59:06 PM
be lucky to finish this game with a 5-a-side team


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 15, 2015, 08:45:18 AM
Concerning that Cisse and Colback got a full 90 minutes last night. Cisse has a great ability to put the ball in the net but beyond that is pretty terrible. He doesn't seem to fit into the type of system McClaren is going for. Yes he's only there because of a suspension but still.

And I'm not sure what the point of Colback is. And there's certainly no need for him and Anita in the same role. Anita does it far better. Colback contributes nothing and is often the source of attacks breaking down.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on September 23, 2015, 10:29:39 PM
no words in any language can describe that performance.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on September 23, 2015, 10:35:04 PM
I give up watching this cack.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DaveShoelace on September 23, 2015, 10:40:39 PM
no words in any language can describe that performance.

How about Super Wednesday?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on September 23, 2015, 11:31:29 PM
no words in any language can describe that performance.

How about Super Wednesday?

They were shite as well. Marginally better shite. But still fucking awful.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on September 24, 2015, 08:29:48 AM

Not much gets past Steve McLaren.

"We are in crisis".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34344057


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ironside on October 02, 2015, 02:15:25 PM
Love to see this in the stands before the toon's next game



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-34425092


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on October 03, 2015, 09:40:10 PM

Pos   Club   Pld   Pts
1   Man City   8   18
2   Man Utd   7   16
3   Crystal Palace   8   15
4   Leicester   8   15
5   West Ham   8   14
6   Arsenal   7   13
7   Everton   7   12
8   Spurs   7   12
9   Southampton   8   12
10   Liverpool   7   11
11   Watford   8   10
12   Swansea   7   9
13   Norwich   8   9
14   Stoke   8   9
15   Bournemouth   8   8
16   Chelsea   8   8
17   West Brom   8   8
18   Aston Villa   8   4
19   Sunderland   8   3
20   Newcastle   8   3


Feel Sorry for the Real Supporters of Newcastle but the bright sparks that forced Pardew out with their website campaign need to take a serious reality check !


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on October 03, 2015, 09:42:28 PM
Nobody forced Pardew out.

For that to make sense you'd have to believe he gave a fuck what anyone thinks of him. Which he doesn't.

He went to Palace because they are 'his club'.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on October 03, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
Nobody forced Pardew out.

For that to make sense you'd have to believe he gave a fuck what anyone thinks of him. Which he doesn't.

He went to Palace because they are 'his club'.

Entitled to your opinion

So you dont think "Sack Pardew.Com" was a contributory factor ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mulhuzz on October 03, 2015, 09:47:37 PM
Nobody forced Pardew out.

For that to make sense you'd have to believe he gave a fuck what anyone thinks of him. Which he doesn't.

He went to Palace because they are 'his club'.

Entitled to your opinion

So you dont think "Sack Pardew.Com" was a contributory factor ?

No, I don't think it made a blind bit of difference


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: McSnort on October 03, 2015, 10:52:59 PM
lol the delusion


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: FUN4FRASER on October 03, 2015, 11:15:18 PM
Nobody forced Pardew out.

For that to make sense you'd have to believe he gave a fuck what anyone thinks of him. Which he doesn't.

He went to Palace because they are 'his club'.

Entitled to your opinion

So you dont think "Sack Pardew.Com" was a contributory factor ?

No, I don't think it made a blind bit of difference

I cant agree

I think anybody put under that amount of pressure by their own fans will obv give a f*** and when his old club came calling  it was an easy choice

Sad state of affairs for sure.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 04, 2015, 04:13:39 AM
Maybe it was the 7fig pay rise ? I dunno maybe not!

The campaign itself I imagine really did have 0 impact on it, him picking to go manage a club that he's loved at as opposed to one were nobody ever showed him any love it makes sense to me why he'd want to go.

I'm still very glad he's gone, don't think there's much difference in the ability of him and our current manager but I'd prefer to have McLaren and as many people including myself have repeatedly stated we never expected a change of manager to have much of an impact on our prospects in the league or any other competition we enter.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 04, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
The campaign will of course have made a difference. At the very least it'll have made him massively uncomfortable in the job. And don't forget his comments when earlier linked with the palace job how he said they were now beneath him and he should be aiming higher.

Don't regret wanting him out of him going a single bit.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on October 14, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
Damned United? Newcastle fans who saw their last major triumph in ’69 share their despair at their current plight

 http://tiny.cc/blzo4x


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 18, 2015, 08:06:23 PM
were going to win the league!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2015, 08:24:24 PM
True Geordie video should be good tomorrow.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on October 18, 2015, 09:19:09 PM
We are just a fenwicks window for footballers, we have some nice players but our def is swiss cheese. Happy to see norwich are as bad as hoped and that we can score a few when we get a chance. Goals given away were so disappointing.

Now for the obligatory give sunderland 3 points after they get a new manager.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 19, 2015, 12:15:46 AM
If you guys don't beat us next week you're going down.

We are truly hopeless. Especially defensively.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 25, 2015, 08:57:58 AM
Good luck gents.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 25, 2015, 04:06:47 PM
Elliot partly to blame for the penalty, clearly hesitated off his line, so sigh. Obv just sheer stupidity from Colo, reckless and completely unnecessary, thought red was harsh as it wasn't completely clear who was getting there 1st between Fletcher and Elliot, pen and a yellow more than suffice.

They were that terrible I thought after an hour we could still win it.

Feel sorry for McLaren, ridic unlucky today, pressure will be on him now for sure.

Maybe even six points off us won't save them clowns this season.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 26, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Mate, theres no saving us this season, we are shocking.

And if you can't beat us your in serious trouble too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on October 27, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
Fabricio Coloccini's Red Card in the Tyne-Wear Derby has been overturned on appeal.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheDazzler on October 27, 2015, 06:21:07 PM
Fabricio Coloccini's Red Card in the Tyne-Wear Derby has been overturned on appeal.




I thought it was a harsh decision at the time and I was surprised that the Sky guys were unanimous in agreeing it was a penalty. Having said that, I didn't think it would be overturned as it could be argued either way. Galling for Newcastle though, they would have won that game without that decision.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DMorgan on October 27, 2015, 06:45:16 PM
Do they publish their reasoning? Thought it was a stonewall red


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on October 27, 2015, 06:59:53 PM
if they didnt overturn this then they would have to give 10 penalties/red cards every game (corners etc) and they don't want the league to go in that direction.

was one of the worst refereeing performances I've seen. cattermole had so many horrible tackles and didn't get a yellow card, tiote got a yellow super quickly for a nothing challenge


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on October 27, 2015, 07:02:29 PM
Do they publish their reasoning? Thought it was a stonewall red

Same.  Was it a foul?  Yes.  It was inside the box hence the pen and it stopped a clear goal scoring chance.  Therefore a red card.  Confused?  

On what grounds was it over turned?  I assume the FA decided it wasn't a foul otherwise the over turn makes no sense.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on October 27, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
"An Independent Regulatory Commission found that the match referee had made an obvious error in dismissing the Newcastle United defender for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity," said an FA statement

he was last man, and barged the attacker out of the way as the goalkeeper came out to gather

I do accept that at corners etc similar goes on and goes unpunished every week, but i thought this decision was correct so am too confused


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on October 27, 2015, 07:25:18 PM
I thought it was a penalty but there is a line of thought he wasn't denied a clearcut goalscoring opportunity because the goalkeeper would have been on to it. That was the BBC interpretation anyway.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 27, 2015, 07:37:22 PM
Catts is going to France next year. Absolute quality.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheDazzler on October 27, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
I thought it was a penalty but there is a line of thought he wasn't denied a clearcut goalscoring opportunity because the goalkeeper would have been on to it. That was the BBC interpretation anyway.


I think this is it, although they could have clearer. It's a penalty but it wasn't a red as it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity.
Got to feel for the ref with their wording, ".....the match referee had made an obvious error....."
Throw him under the bus, why don't you? Remove the word, "obvious", as it isn't that clear cut either way, even with the benefit of numerous slow mo replays.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 27, 2015, 11:39:12 PM
Ref deserves throwing under the bus. Awful performance.

Fail to see how it was a penalty in the first place but even having given it the red card was a ridiculous decision.

How Sunderland, and Cattermole in particular, got through that with no yellow cards god only knows.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on October 27, 2015, 11:42:52 PM
Do they publish their reasoning? Thought it was a stonewall red

Same.  Was it a foul?  Yes.  It was inside the box hence the pen and it stopped a clear goal scoring chance.  Therefore a red card.  Confused?  

On what grounds was it over turned?  I assume the FA decided it wasn't a foul otherwise the over turn makes no sense.

I heard somewhere from next season if a player is given a red for a professional foul, he won't get a ban.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on October 27, 2015, 11:46:36 PM
Do they publish their reasoning? Thought it was a stonewall red

Same.  Was it a foul?  Yes.  It was inside the box hence the pen and it stopped a clear goal scoring chance.  Therefore a red card.  Confused?  

On what grounds was it over turned?  I assume the FA decided it wasn't a foul otherwise the over turn makes no sense.

I heard somewhere from next season if a player is given a red for a professional foul, he won't get a ban.

Going to be some interesting tackles outside the box in the last 5/10 minutes of games next season then.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: The Camel on October 27, 2015, 11:56:55 PM
Do they publish their reasoning? Thought it was a stonewall red

Same.  Was it a foul?  Yes.  It was inside the box hence the pen and it stopped a clear goal scoring chance.  Therefore a red card.  Confused?  

On what grounds was it over turned?  I assume the FA decided it wasn't a foul otherwise the over turn makes no sense.

I heard somewhere from next season if a player is given a red for a professional foul, he won't get a ban.

Going to be some interesting tackles outside the box in the last 5/10 minutes of games next season then.

I think most players would sacrifice themselves for a one game ban to preserve a one goal lead or to hold a draw as it is.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on November 02, 2015, 01:19:21 AM
Just reading about Alan Smith's 4 month collapsed marriage in the gutter press and wiki'd him and it said he played 94 times for Newcastle during his 5 year contract and never scored in all competitions (nearly half those games were in the Championship season as well!)?  Is that right?  Incredible if true for a 20 cap England international midfielder to have a streak like that.  I knew he was a flop at Newcastle but never had any idea he was that bad.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on November 02, 2015, 11:16:19 PM
Just reading about Alan Smith's 4 month collapsed marriage in the gutter press and wiki'd him and it said he played 94 times for Newcastle during his 5 year contract and never scored in all competitions (nearly half those games were in the Championship season as well!)?  Is that right?  Incredible if true for a 20 cap England international midfielder to have a streak like that.  I knew he was a flop at Newcastle but never had any idea he was that bad.

He played in a def mid role but cant remember him play that many games. He was a run down a contract job, just like all leeds players.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on November 07, 2015, 10:42:26 PM
Well 3 points is 3 points I suppose.

Woeful performance. Though I suppose we've lost a few we deserved to win so nice for it to be the other way around.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on November 11, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
Well 3 points is 3 points I suppose.

Woeful performance. Though I suppose we've lost a few we deserved to win so nice for it to be the other way around.

I said to my mates when i watched the Bouremouth match that this was probably the first bit of luck since when Pappis Cisse just had to look at a football and it would bend right angles into the top bin.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on November 17, 2015, 08:56:21 PM
Ben Arfa starting for france lol


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on November 17, 2015, 10:54:43 PM
The fat lump never tracks back. We're well rid.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02080/alan_pardew_2080097b.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/21/article-2064093-0EDD416400000578-343_468x286.jpg)

Muppets.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 10:50:47 AM
telling it like it is?

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ngk2pABJU


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 01, 2015, 06:58:23 PM
Five things Steve McClaren must do to turn the club around. http://btfr.co/NUFC 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 11, 2015, 12:59:06 PM
£500m wiped off the value of sportsdirect in the last two days

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV76qYfXIAEFn6T.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 29, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
"We will celebrate this great man's life together. United. Fans & players alike."

http://bbc.in/1ZzrSZH

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXZ0ZKdWEAESo-r.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: celtic on December 29, 2015, 04:54:32 PM
Very sad.

RIP


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: booder on December 29, 2015, 05:30:11 PM
R.I.P     Sad loss.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on December 29, 2015, 05:48:44 PM
RIP Pavel


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 29, 2015, 11:53:43 PM
RIP


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: geordieneil on January 11, 2016, 10:06:06 PM
Haven't posted for a while, but if any one is interested in going to the man u game tomorrow night I have a spare platinum club ticket going cheap......my pal has been called into work at short notice............pm me if interested....he said half price, but i reckon he'd take £25....think its worth about £70


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on January 12, 2016, 06:56:26 PM
£12m 5.5yr contract

ok with that?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYicsSMWwAA0XFU.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on January 12, 2016, 07:05:10 PM
Think its a good signing, even better if tiote leaves for 8m and doesnt do a cisse.

Desperate for a striker, for the love of god not bendtner. Surprised at the prices quoting for berahino to come, cant see it tbh.



Club finally doing what they promised, desperate to keep the gravy train on the tracks.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheDazzler on January 12, 2016, 08:18:54 PM
I think he's a very talented player and was surprised he's still only 23.
I do think there is more to come from him IF his attitude is right.
£12m could look very cheap in a couple of years once the increased TV money comes in imo.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheDazzler on January 16, 2016, 01:43:28 AM
Sign this guy up!
http://i.imgur.com/NZID80u.gifv


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 16, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
Sign this guy up!
http://i.imgur.com/NZID80u.gifv

Lol. Sending everyone to the chip shop.

Whilst he was at the toon he was in the casino i worked at most nights.

I specifically remember one night he was in was the night before Newcastle lost 3-0 to Everton or Spurs, was a tuesday night. At 3am he was eating a double cheese burger and chips and was sinking Vodka Lemonades. There was also a very strong rumour he was bonking one of the dealers for a bit of cash on the side. It must have been a decent amount of cash as well because her boyfriend didnt seem to mind.

Anyways, always seemed like a nice enough lad.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 16, 2016, 12:45:51 PM
He's taking the utter piss

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35330009

How does no one call him out on this bullshit? Handled Ben Arfa? Did he fuck.

(Apologies for language lol)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on January 16, 2016, 06:22:59 PM
Shelvey is a breath of fresh air, always looking for the positive pass. If plays anything like that he will have a much happier time at the toon then he has at previous clubs(altho not for a few games) Mitrovic should really have made it much less of a sweat then it was. First half was great, then as per made it hard for themselves but much better and didnt throw it away, which is a nice change.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on January 16, 2016, 07:16:41 PM
glad pardew is getting found out now, over 7 hours with a goal, was beginning to think maybe i was wrong!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on January 17, 2016, 01:03:24 PM
23 shots yesterday, most we've had since 2013, much better football, that pass from shelvey!!! Hope he doesn't get a ban for Valencia incident


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheDazzler on January 20, 2016, 02:21:40 PM
A good post I think from a Toon supporter on a Fantasy site I frequent.
Fair comment?

"I actually think we're nearly a good side, a lot of the pitch good enough for top 10, just that there's glaring holes in the team that pulls us down to relegation candidates (namely we're very weak at CB, LB and don't really have a striker who can score right now - fundamental stuff, but only 3-4 players short imo). Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Janmaat, Shelvey, Krul are all really quality players, Perez, Mbemba & Mitro have the potential to be quality players, and Colback is reasonable as a hard working ball winner.

I don't think Ashley/Charnley are genuinely not trying to do the best they can, it's just they have a complete lack of understanding of football and the fact that running a business is different to running a football club. The transfer policy of essentially only buying 'good value' young players with potential is completely stupid - essentially ruling out signing anyone over 25 - it completely ignoring the absolutely imperative factor of PL experience. It's all well and good buying good value young players with potential as part of your policy, but those players are not going to learn anything/improve much unless they're playing and training with experienced players and they're not going to improve the team right now. They also need gametime to improve, but if they're not good enough right now they're not going to get that. We've spent 25m odd on Cabella/Thauvin because they were seen as having better sell on value than more experienced players but they weren't good enough to get enough gametime right now so haven't progressed. If we'd just spend that on proven players we'd be far higher in the table. We haven't in the past addressed the positions that need addressing - we've just concentrated on 'value' - before this season we had the same pool of CBs (Colo/Williamson/Saylor) that we had in the Championship yet we found 7m to spend on Riviere!!

The other ridiculous transfer policy is not buying a replacement before a player is sold. We've finally replace Cabaye with Shelvey now, only 2 years after he left as all the replacements we looked at at the time weren't 'value'. Well, however much we would have saved by not overspending on the right player 2 years ago we have lost fourfold in lost league position income since. We still haven't replaced Remy. We still haven't replaced Santon. If we'd have just bought a left winger that was good enough for the PL a few years ago we wouldn't have had to waste 25m on Cabella/Thauvin and now apparently spend another 12m on Townsend. It's a false economy. If we get Townsend we'll have spent 35-40m just on left wingers in the last 3 years - it's ridiculous.

The same would be true of Mitrovic - we'd be doing far better with a proven goalscorer, someone like Austin say, though luckily for Mitro he's manage to get lots of gametime unlike Cabella/Thauvin due to lack of other options and is actually improving as a result- but we've payed the price in league position in the mean time. If we hadn't wasted so much money on the wrong things in the past we should easily be finishing around 10-11th in the table and it's something like 1.4m per place - money on potential only is money down the drain.

At least this season McClaren has been added to the football board and you can see the difference immediately - we've actually spend good money on players that are good enough for the team right now (Wijnaldum, Shelvey, Mbemba) and for positions we actually need. The budget options with 'potential' like Riviere/Gouffran/Marveaux/Obertan/Anita and the players with potential but are not there yet like Cabella/Thauvin have just wasted spots in the squad and lots of money."



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on January 20, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
I disagree about ashley and co being clueless. They are just complacent when we are mid table, unwilling to pay for the next level, so happy to be a midtable team. He knows how much it cost us to be relegated, so relegation causes a reaction. Newcastle fans need to understand that making money is winning to mike ashley.

So the problem we have is that theres only investment when we struggle, meaning we have to suffer if we want investment. The problem then is that as soon as said investment has the desired effect, itll stop imo.

Im unconcerned with the part of the poor signings we have made. Loads of club where they are congratulated for their signings have signed some utter dross, necessary to get players of quality, especially for a club where established quality players arent interested. The big problem is highlighted, graham carr isnt building us a team with signings, merely adding individuals regardless of position who fit his mould and as said the clubs policy. Its not been made clear whether they disagree with fans as to what we need (lb, cb, cf as suggested), or whether scouting has put up players we have failed to get/ havent lived up to expectation. I have no idea why we are interested in townsend, he doesnt fit the style, and we havent given similar players to him a real shot in the team.

Mcclaren says he wants an english core, and seems keen to bring in england int, or fringe players which tbh, suggests he doesnt really have any indepth knowledge of players worth investing in, only players hes seen on tele lol. Id like to see us sign english. Go get us an english LB and CB.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on February 10, 2016, 05:58:42 PM
Adam Johnson played his last prem game?


Lee cattermole can move back to my most hated footballer now johnsons prem career looks over


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on February 15, 2016, 10:30:34 AM
Is captain Coloccini strong enough to lead Newcastle?

His ex-coach has his doubts http://bbc.in/1RF5kox 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on February 15, 2016, 01:42:52 PM
Is captain Coloccini strong enough to lead Newcastle?

His ex-coach has his doubts http://bbc.in/1RF5kox 

He should be nowhere near the team and should have been replaced yonks ago.

If he is going to be in the team he shouldn't be captain.

Although John Carver can shut up - not like he did anything about it himself when he had the chance.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on March 01, 2016, 07:56:23 PM
at least he is frank

"Newcastle are the most frustrating team I've managed." http://bbc.in/1TP2w9O 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on March 01, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
Pardew was never gonna get anything tonight to help us was he. Honeymoon period over for him.

Bagged derby day tickets yesterday, can't cope at the thought of another drive home after losing


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 01, 2016, 10:13:58 PM
Pardew was never gonna get anything tonight to help us was he. Honeymoon period over for him.

Bagged derby day tickets yesterday, can't cope at the thought of another drive home after losing

Pardew for England, with wickham up tops (obviously supported with wingbacks in front of fullbacks)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on March 02, 2016, 08:08:37 PM
Have no idea how goufrann is starting, must show some talent in training


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on March 05, 2016, 03:09:23 PM
What the fuck is mcclaren playing at. GTFO.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on March 05, 2016, 03:26:12 PM
He's lost the plot.... Fkin rivière


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on March 05, 2016, 08:11:46 PM
Gg


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 06, 2016, 12:32:15 AM
howay mike give us a chance for the last 10 games, only thing we can change at this stage is manager so he has to go.

Gutting to watch everybody else throwing everything at it and us just looking more and more like aston villas second coming.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Rooky9 on March 06, 2016, 08:29:31 AM
At this point you can't see anything other than another spell (hopefully as brief) in the Championship. The games left should give some hope but the frailties, the lack of confidence and some spankings on the road to come are a massive ask. Sad to say I just think Sunderland have more balls and bit and that will make a big difference. I certainly can't see us getting more than 36 points so it's really a question of if that will be enough....

Manger wise it's at that point where he has to go. Regardless of the rights and wrongs if an 18 day build up with the players gets those last two results it says it all. I'd be up for Moyes for a long period but not sure he'd have what's needed for massive short term impact....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: maldini32 on March 06, 2016, 08:59:43 AM
At this point you can't see anything other than another spell (hopefully as brief) in the Championship. The games left should give some hope but the frailties, the lack of confidence and some spankings on the road to come are a massive ask. Sad to say I just think Sunderland have more balls and bit and that will make a big difference. I certainly can't see us getting more than 36 points so it's really a question of if that will be enough....

Manger wise it's at that point where he has to go. Regardless of the rights and wrongs if an 18 day build up with the players gets those last two results it says it all. I'd be up for Moyes for a long period but not sure he'd have what's needed for massive short term impact....

Been a while!  :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RobbieP on March 07, 2016, 09:12:16 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-leave-steve-mcclaren-10999126

Reporting a decision will be made in the next 24 hours .....Put it this way once we get beat off the mackems on the 20th it will all be over anyway


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on March 07, 2016, 09:49:19 PM
If they haven't tinned him by now I can't see the point.  Unless you want to give a fist pumper like Di Canio a 3 month contract.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RobbieP on March 07, 2016, 09:55:10 PM
Pmsl would not put it passed them ........god the thought


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TheDazzler on March 07, 2016, 10:51:09 PM
Pmsl would not put it passed them ........god the thought


They should get in the Legend Alan Shearer.
He'd instill the passion, belief, heart, courage that he says on tv they are lacking. Just like he did last time.

I see before the Bournemouth game, he said Newcastle "had to win." They didn't so what does that mean? Now the Sunderland game is apparently "must win."
If they draw that, they'll still have a few chances to escape, so I guess he'll move on to "last chance saloon."


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2016, 10:17:32 AM
Newcastle won't survive under McClaren. He looks like he wants to be sacked http://dailym.ai/24Lmg1V 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc8Ja-UW4AEIqF5.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2016, 10:20:56 AM
NUFC fans have written a letter to the club http://bbc.in/1pujQo9 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2016, 02:49:52 PM
NUFC are no longer a football club - they're a mutation of Sports Direct -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/03/07/newcastle-are-no-longer-a-football-club-in-the-conventional-sens/

which is an interesting take

all other things being equal, who do you want next?

Moyes?
Benitez?
Pearson?
other?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 08, 2016, 03:00:48 PM
Moyes seems to be all but confirmed. We are deffo a mutation, we are the only entity in the world with a hardon for gingers.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Doobs on March 08, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
If they haven't tinned him by now I can't see the point.  Unless you want to give a fist pumper like Di Canio a 3 month contract.

Tim Sherwood fairly high up in the betting.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2016, 03:17:55 PM
Tony Pulis is perfect for the owner who just wants to confirm EPL status year after year to hoover up the tv cash.  He has got proven long term history of doing this with 3 similar mid table EPL clubs (Stoke/Palace/WBA) and never had any of them close to a relegation battle over nearly a decade.  He took Stoke to a FA cup final/into the Europa league.  Surely in all reality this is the peak of Newcastle fan's short/medium term ambitions if they are not blinkered?

I find it amazing he doesn't just break the bank to get Pulis.  It would be TP's biggest ever job of his career (virtually impossible he gets the chance to ever manage a bigger club than Newcastle in all reality).  Pretty likely TP is going to be leaving WBA in the summer as well.

50/1 looks a huge price to me if the owner actually thinks straight about what he is personally trying to achieve with NUFC.

I assume the fans will think TP isn't good enough for their club (just like the fans at Palace and WBA also thought/think) so it will probably never happen even though he would be the perfect appointment for the club.  Amazing how these fans never seem to moan so much when their EPL status is secured in early March every year.

Everything Newcastle currently lack would be sorted instantly by TP.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 08, 2016, 03:23:47 PM
Tony Pulis is perfect for the owner who just wants to confirm EPL status year after year to hoover up the tv cash.  He has got proven long term history of doing this with 3 similar mid table EPL clubs (Stoke/Palace/WBA) and never had any of them close to a relegation battle over nearly a decade.

I find it amazing he doesn't just break the bank to get Pulis.  It would be TP's biggest ever job of his career (virtually impossible he gets the chance to ever manage a bigger club than Newcastle in all reality).  Pretty likely TP is going to be leaving WBA in the summer as well.

Find this pretty unlikely with all the candidates seemingly unemployed. They will already be up in arms if they have to pay mcclarens contract up. Doing stuff on the cheap is their way, and its the whole problem.

The big dilemma is that the best manager to save the club isnt necessarily the best manager to take them forward.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: exstream on March 08, 2016, 03:24:14 PM
People on the arsenal thread would be going nuts over such provocative posts 😁


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
Tony Pulis is perfect for the owner who just wants to confirm EPL status year after year to hoover up the tv cash.  He has got proven long term history of doing this with 3 similar mid table EPL clubs (Stoke/Palace/WBA) and never had any of them close to a relegation battle over nearly a decade.

I find it amazing he doesn't just break the bank to get Pulis.  It would be TP's biggest ever job of his career (virtually impossible he gets the chance to ever manage a bigger club than Newcastle in all reality).  Pretty likely TP is going to be leaving WBA in the summer as well.

Find this pretty unlikely with all the candidates seemingly unemployed. They will already be up in arms if they have to pay mcclarens contract up. Doing stuff on the cheap is their way, and its the whole problem.

The big dilemma is that the best manager to save the club isnt necessarily the best manager to take them forward.



You think you will get any of the named managers for the job cheaper than TP?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 08, 2016, 03:51:54 PM
Tony Pulis is perfect for the owner who just wants to confirm EPL status year after year to hoover up the tv cash.  He has got proven long term history of doing this with 3 similar mid table EPL clubs (Stoke/Palace/WBA) and never had any of them close to a relegation battle over nearly a decade.

I find it amazing he doesn't just break the bank to get Pulis.  It would be TP's biggest ever job of his career (virtually impossible he gets the chance to ever manage a bigger club than Newcastle in all reality).  Pretty likely TP is going to be leaving WBA in the summer as well.

Find this pretty unlikely with all the candidates seemingly unemployed. They will already be up in arms if they have to pay mcclarens contract up. Doing stuff on the cheap is their way, and its the whole problem.

The big dilemma is that the best manager to save the club isnt necessarily the best manager to take them forward.



You think you will get any of the named managers for the job cheaper than TP?

I meant paying out a contract.

It would be the best opportunity of TP career, if he keeps us up and as long as he avoids the relegation zone he would never be in danger of sacking, but your own club dumped him as he couldnt take the club to any better than survival. We might aswell do a stoke and take a punt on a league flop instead of pulis eh?

It looks like moyes anyway, looks like he has to turn it down in contract talks.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2016, 03:57:35 PM
Tony Pulis is perfect for the owner who just wants to confirm EPL status year after year to hoover up the tv cash.  He has got proven long term history of doing this with 3 similar mid table EPL clubs (Stoke/Palace/WBA) and never had any of them close to a relegation battle over nearly a decade.

I find it amazing he doesn't just break the bank to get Pulis.  It would be TP's biggest ever job of his career (virtually impossible he gets the chance to ever manage a bigger club than Newcastle in all reality).  Pretty likely TP is going to be leaving WBA in the summer as well.

Find this pretty unlikely with all the candidates seemingly unemployed. They will already be up in arms if they have to pay mcclarens contract up. Doing stuff on the cheap is their way, and its the whole problem.

The big dilemma is that the best manager to save the club isnt necessarily the best manager to take them forward.



You think you will get any of the named managers for the job cheaper than TP?

I meant paying out a contract.

It would be the best opportunity of TP career, if he keeps us up and as long as he avoids the relegation zone he would never be in danger of sacking, but your own club dumped him as he couldnt take the club to any better than survival. We might aswell do a stoke and take a punt on a league flop instead of pulis eh?

It looks like moyes anyway, looks like he has to turn it down in contract talks.

Moyes is another great choice.  Big experience of the upper end of mid table managing Everton successfully for years.  Moyes and Pulis are just the stand out options for me.

TP took us to solid mid table security.   Stoke are seriously looking at being a consistent top 6 club imo over the next 5/10 years and that is the reason why they moved TP on.  The bottom line is whatever the style of football at Stoke if you look at the GD/goals scored/conceded the club doesn't look hardly any different from when TP left.  I appreciate all this attractive football nonsense non stoke fans talk about but the bottom line is results have hardly changed under Hughes.  The only difference between Stoke and WBA in the league table (appreciate it is results orientated over a small sample of 30 games) is 2 draws are turned into wins.  Goals scored/conceded and GD are virtually identical for both clubs. 

Newcastle are a million miles away from where Stoke are currently aiming.  I appreciate a lot of it is down to the owner but the bottom line is he has pumped the dough in this season like never before.  A lot of the back room management need to take a long hard look at themselves whilst they are discussing sacking the buffoon with the brolly.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 08, 2016, 04:30:48 PM
They will look at everton and give it to moyes.

Newcastles problems wont end, the people deciding mcclarens fate are just as responsible for the flop, either by hiring him or the players signed. A decent manager would have masked the failures of those around him. The money bandied about was just money he owed the squad, it was a drop in the ocean of 5 years of squad building and failed to even paper over the glaring cracks in our team/squad. The players we signed assumed the squad already was good enough and they would strengthen it. The truth is we have flaws at LB and CB that wouldnt be good enough in the championship.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on March 10, 2016, 10:53:23 AM
Newcastle ‘quietly confident’ over Rafael Benítez but McClaren limps on http://gu.com/p/4he4h/stw 

Rafa, then?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on March 10, 2016, 12:57:12 PM
Shocked this looks like it's actually happening. Could never complain, we won't attract anyone better. All too late tho in my opinion.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: horseplayer on March 10, 2016, 01:20:46 PM
A superb choice not sure i believe it until it happens...

Two things one if you go down not a chance Rafa stays in the championship but sure that is in his contract.

Wonder if the fact Sam is in charge of Sunderland has motivated Rafa they hate each other and pretty sure not much more he would like than to send him down


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on March 10, 2016, 02:06:37 PM
I'll only believe it when it's official!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2016, 12:35:09 PM
Mcclaren is gone.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RobbieP on March 11, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
Mcclaren is gone.

Thank god for that onwards and upwards


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RobbieP on March 11, 2016, 01:19:31 PM
Would not supprise me if Rafa said no later today and we end up with Carlos Kickabout


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2016, 01:44:54 PM
Would not supprise me if Rafa said no later today and we end up with Carlos Kickabout

Heard theyve all but given him the keys to the city. Charnley trying to save his own neck, despite it being the man he insisted to everybody was the right coach, having got us into this mess.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RobbieP on March 11, 2016, 02:06:20 PM
Would not supprise me if Rafa said no later today and we end up with Carlos Kickabout

Heard theyve all but given him the keys to the city. Charnley trying to save his own neck, despite it being the man he insisted to everybody was the right coach, having got us into this mess.




Aye back to sack the board filled  much of my youth standing on the Gallowgate shouting at McKeag happy days man


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2016, 03:40:49 PM
Benitez confirmed


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on March 11, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Massive crossbar for me... Was on him for the job last time :D

Good coup for you, now just need to get rid of the suits!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2016, 04:54:04 PM
Massive crossbar for me... Was on him for the job last time :D

Good coup for you, now just need to get rid of the suits!

Couldnt stomach a toon manager bet since harrys wife said she wasnt living the north.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on March 11, 2016, 04:57:51 PM
bearing in mind you are at us on monday night (great, we would have like to have played you a wek ago...) what easy wins are there for Rafa to do?

apart from scrapping, spirit and trying which we assume we'll suddenly see...

what can he do quickly in tactics or selections to keep you up?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on March 11, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
Massive crossbar for me... Was on him for the job last time :D

Good coup for you, now just need to get rid of the suits!

Couldnt stomach a toon manager bet since harrys wife said she wasnt living the north.

Haha, he'd get rid of the other suits, the stadium, and probably flog Ashley's firms, too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2016, 05:19:08 PM
bearing in mind you are at us on monday night (great, we would have like to have played you a wek ago...) what easy wins are there for Rafa to do?

apart from scrapping, spirit and trying which we assume we'll suddenly see...

what can he do quickly in tactics or selections to keep you up?

Try to win games instead of kill them would be a start. Think mcclaren had lost the players belief and bringing in benitez should fix it. Never ever play gouffran again. There is genuine quality there, he needs to get the best out of them to make up for the total lack of quality elsewhere.



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2016, 05:19:38 PM
Massive crossbar for me... Was on him for the job last time :D

Good coup for you, now just need to get rid of the suits!

Couldnt stomach a toon manager bet since harrys wife said she wasnt living the north.

Haha, he'd get rid of the other suits, the stadium, and probably flog Ashley's firms, too.

and blame his dog for it all.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Rafa will be doomed on Tyneside unless Mike Ashley cedes control.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/03/11/rafa-will-be-doomed-at-newcastle-unless-ashley-cedes-control/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdSfZMNW8AAX6jl.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on March 12, 2016, 10:55:51 AM
Great appointment- if they can survive


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RobbieP on March 12, 2016, 11:39:10 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_FXPLm4SmY&feature=youtu.be


Last time the toon needed to go to Leicester and win 90th min own goal what an away match that was


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on March 13, 2016, 03:33:20 PM
Very happy with the appointment.

Just me thinking Rafa may leave in the Summer even if he keeps us up ? Solid payday for him instead of being on holiday for a couple of months and pretty close to a freeroll for him reputation wise.

Hopefully he keeps us up and I'm wrong, the next two weeks are huge, find it plzzzz!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: flushthemout on March 14, 2016, 10:28:14 PM
Jon Jo Shelvy and Stephen Taylor absolutely dire tonight.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on March 14, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
Team looks much better with Townsend in it. Not that that's saying much


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2016, 10:41:34 PM
thought we were pretty good, especially considering we had Colback left back against Mahrez with our first 3 choice left backs injured and Lacelles and Taylor in defence with our first 2 choice centre backs injured. Had lots of chances. Hope Spurs win the league but Kante was the difference between the teams tonight, he's absolutely class.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on March 14, 2016, 10:44:48 PM
So frustrating. We actually had some shape to ourselves. Don't think Leicester were that much better than us tonight, frustrating they score from an overhead kick, and they was offside... Need them desicions to go for you when your at the bottom. I genuinely think Kante is buy of season, guy is unreal


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nirvana on March 14, 2016, 10:58:18 PM
First time I've watched Newcastle for 90 mins. Rafa abs hero if he keeps this shower up. Colback impressed. Shelvey has gone so far backwards it's unreal. The rest were pitiful ..like watching villa or arsenal


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on March 22, 2016, 11:26:28 PM
Just reading this on Gutierrez:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35872542

What's the local viewpoint on it?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on March 23, 2016, 12:15:24 PM
Just reading this on Gutierrez:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35872542

What's the local viewpoint on it?

No doubt we loaned him to dodge a contract extension, but thought we had stopped playing him to dodge the clause before his cancer diagnosis. First time Ive come across it was anything other than a move to stop a player with no value extending a relatively expensive contract. I wouldnt put anything past the people related to newcastles management, they are truly grim humans as we have seen in the way ashleys other interests are run.

Having said that his account has gaping holes, and he never really justified his wage at the club, only playing because pardew likes to play wingbacks in front of the fullback.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: RobbieP on March 23, 2016, 03:22:36 PM
NUFC should of sued him for breach of contract for being discribed as being a professional footballer

He was bloody hopeless before and after being diagnosed 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Tommo on March 23, 2016, 06:09:08 PM
NUFC should of sued him for breach of contract for being discribed as being a professional footballer

He was bloody hopeless before and after being diagnosed 

I always got the impression he was a bit of a cult hero in Newcastle, is that not the case then?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Archer on March 24, 2016, 12:45:16 AM
Just reading this on Gutierrez:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35872542

What's the local viewpoint on it?

No doubt we loaned him to dodge a contract extension, but thought we had stopped playing him to dodge the clause before his cancer diagnosis. First time Ive come across it was anything other than a move to stop a player with no value extending a relatively expensive contract. I wouldnt put anything past the people related to newcastles management, they are truly grim humans as we have seen in the way ashleys other interests are run.

Having said that his account has gaping holes, and he never really justified his wage at the club, only playing because pardew likes to play wingbacks in front of the fullback.

As is often the case I did think it sounded a bit too one -sided.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: vegaslover on March 24, 2016, 01:04:02 AM
From an outsider looking in, he always seemed to give his all when I saw him play.
Can certainly see other contracted players looking at his situation and thinking fk giving 100% for these people, look at how they treat players.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on March 24, 2016, 03:16:39 AM
From an outsider looking in, he always seemed to give his all when I saw him play.
Can certainly see other contracted players looking at his situation and thinking fk giving 100% for these people, look at how they treat players.

Yeah there can't be any debate about that, he always gave the max. Agree he was shit for ages, think whether he had Cancer or not they'd have done the same thing.

Sounds like they treated him very poorly with the lack of contact which is obv out of order, but don't think they should be sued for that and that's all they've done wrong from what I know about it, it's not the first time a player hasn't been selected because of this clause.

There was never a point when he was a Cult hero at the club, certainly well liked by many for his effort but general opinion was he wasn't good enough, his end product was tiltingly bad.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 03, 2016, 12:15:31 PM
Heartbreaking day yesterday, gutted to go down, but it's nothing short of what the club deserve. Don't think we will come back up as quick as last time either. Rebuilding needed. Get Charnley and Ashley out, aswell as the majority of players that are an embarrassment to put the shirt on.

Sad times


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 03, 2016, 05:20:50 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vFkAocfWc&a=&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vFkAocfWc&a=&feature=youtu.be)

😂😂


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on April 03, 2016, 09:38:59 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vFkAocfWc&a=&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vFkAocfWc&a=&feature=youtu.be)

😂😂

Said straight after the game his next vid would be good.

Bet he's a top lad on a night out :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 30, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
I can't take this season much longer. Are we just prolonging the heartbreak or will we actually stay up... Great result today, that 93rd defoe goal could save them, huge. Let's beat villa and take it down to the last game.


Rafa Benitez !!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
From an outsider looking in, he always seemed to give his all when I saw him play.
Can certainly see other contracted players looking at his situation and thinking fk giving 100% for these people, look at how they treat players.

Yeah there can't be any debate about that, he always gave the max. Agree he was shit for ages, think whether he had Cancer or not they'd have done the same thing.

Sounds like they treated him very poorly with the lack of contact which is obv out of order, but don't think they should be sued for that and that's all they've done wrong from what I know about it, it's not the first time a player hasn't been selected because of this clause.

There was never a point when he was a Cult hero at the club, certainly well liked by many for his effort but general opinion was he wasn't good enough, his end product was tiltingly bad.

Not keeping in contact with an employee when they have cancer is fucking horrendous


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on May 15, 2016, 05:41:01 PM
what an absolutely infuriating shower

win 5-1 when you've gone down.

if only they had appointed him a month earlier, hope he stays for you



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 15, 2016, 06:09:27 PM
Frustrating, lots of players playing for summer transfers, janmaat wijnaldum sissoko... Happy for them all to leave. Townsend been great last 6/7 games, he's too good for us.

As much as I love him that tackle from mitro was just awful

Must keep hold of Rafa.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 17, 2016, 09:32:01 PM
Looks like Rafa is staying, takes away some of the heartache. Time to rebuild


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 17, 2016, 09:43:02 PM
Looks like Rafa is staying, takes away some of the heartache. Time to rebuild

Shortest price fav in championship history if he stays and you recruit well,  you might go off odds on.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 17, 2016, 09:56:00 PM
4/1 atm on coral, 5/2 everywhere else before the news breaks he's staying


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 17, 2016, 10:02:49 PM
4/1 atm on coral, 5/2 everywhere else before the news breaks he's staying

You destroyed that league with hughton in charge and much smaller epl payments for going down compared to now relative to the other teams.  With your owners own bankroll on top 4/1 is a fucking big price IMO to win that league if Rafa is in charge.

If Rafa is there you might not even have a mass clear out of talent they might just stay for a year on the big wages and Ashley just rolls with it.  Can't believe Rafa is agreeing to stay if there is going to be a mass clear out of talent.

365 stuck you in at 5/1 early doors for next season, assume that is long gone?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 17, 2016, 10:10:53 PM
Couldn't find the market on there, looks like they've taken it down


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 25, 2016, 08:55:21 PM
Huge day, full control of all football matters for Rafa. Shows the state of the club in last ten year, can't remember ever being so excited ha


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 25, 2016, 09:11:37 PM
Championship going to be good next season. If we keep our team I reckon we (Brighton) will be champions. Benitez hasn't a clue about the championship.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 25, 2016, 09:16:39 PM
Open to bets on Newcastle > Brighton next season ha.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: kukushkin88 on May 25, 2016, 09:22:00 PM
4/7 Newcastle 7/4 Brighton?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 25, 2016, 09:56:10 PM
4/7 Newcastle 7/4 Brighton?

4/11 15/8 for me.  Happy to lay the arb or just take 4/7 Newcastle with kuk.  Not even sure i would be happy laying a £400/1100 to be honest on Newcastle the wrong side of the arb!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 26, 2016, 12:01:34 AM
Such an important appointment.

Can see us absolutely walking it next year and hopefully be in a strong position for the PL the year after.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: david3103 on May 26, 2016, 06:57:25 AM
Such an important appointment.

Can see us absolutely walking it next year and hopefully be in a strong position for the PL the year after.

Proverbs 16:18


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on May 26, 2016, 10:14:26 AM
Championship with Rafa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> premiership with Pardew and really not close I think.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DropTheHammer on May 27, 2016, 08:13:14 AM
Will you still be saying that if Newcastle get relegated again and Palace end up mid-table?

Rafa has no idea about all these Championship clubs. I do think Newcastle might start strongly but if they then trail off he will lose interest. Plus he will be getting regular offers from lots of top divisions, I'm sure.

I liked him when he managed Liverpool but didn't agree with his uber-frequent rotation policy. Someone like Crouch would get a go and score a couple on the trot then get dropped.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 27, 2016, 08:47:18 AM
Palace will struggle next season. Pardew has had long enough to make his mark now. 2 wins in the last 20 PL games or something daft.

Don't quite get anyone with the "Rafa has no championship" experience comments. It's still football at the end of the day. And besides Rafa does have experience in second tiers it hasn't all been managing CL teams.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 27, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
Will you still be saying that if Newcastle get relegated again and Palace end up mid-table?

Rafa has no idea about all these Championship clubs. I do think Newcastle might start strongly but if they then trail off he will lose interest. Plus he will be getting regular offers from lots of top divisions, I'm sure.

I liked him when he managed Liverpool but didn't agree with his uber-frequent rotation policy. Someone like Crouch would get a go and score a couple on the trot then get dropped.

It really is a stupid view that he doesnt know the championship. Its a poorer league than what hes used to, why is that a bad thing, its cliche pundit talk. Newcastle have been there before. We went down last time as totally uncompetitive, it wasnt like this time, we threw away chance after chance to scrape out of the mess. That team pissed the championship and its no better now. Only burnley got 2 points a game (minimum winners requirement in a league) and barely. I think theres a far bigger risk we get it too easy and everyone thinks rafas a genius but in reality the players are only good at picking on lessers teams. You say he rotates too much, but that doesnt get punished in a crap league. We are on far better terms this time, why would we be more likely to do worse.

Would it not be more likely that if as you claim he doesnt know these championship teams (I find it lol that you think someone has been successful but turns up in a league and thinks lol its blackburn) that we struggle early then class shows later, in the same vein that championship teams in the prem often start fast then get found out. Cant see how anyone can argue we dont have the best squad by a mile (granted they need to stay), and only players totally underperforming could stop us. Newcastles team simply shouldnt be in the championship, even if rafa is garbage (he does have a hardon for cisse) he has control of footballing matters and only need retain the squad with a few additions and they will be promoted. Cant see any reason the championship teams suddenly find 10 points min it would take to stop an even average perfoming newcastle.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on May 28, 2016, 01:42:56 AM
You say Newcastle's team shouldn't be in the Championship but who do you think should have replaced them?  Sunderland were the only team remotely close.  Apart from that they were left behind by the rest by some margin.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 28, 2016, 10:10:37 AM
You say Newcastle's team shouldn't be in the Championship but who do you think should have replaced them?  Sunderland were the only team remotely close.  Apart from that they were left behind by the rest by some margin.

Bournemouth, watford and wba all overperformed with their squads imo. Sunderland only stayed up by virtue of signing defoe. Remotely close lol the 4 teams above us are within 6 points, two wins theres a much bigger luck spread than that alone. Im not saying we didnt deserve to be relegated, just that we have underperformed with that squad. In terms of squad value only everton in the bottom half would be worth more?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on May 28, 2016, 01:11:14 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 28, 2016, 02:59:54 PM
By the time we got a competent manager in who could actually properly organise what was there we looked a different team. So in that sense we underperformed massively and shouldn't have been down there. The board's fault for hiring someone not good enough and not getting rid sooner.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on May 28, 2016, 03:15:01 PM
That much I agree with - no idea why McLaren wasn't shown the door in January.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 28, 2016, 07:06:52 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 28, 2016, 07:08:32 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.

Stoke certainly don't have the 9th best!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 28, 2016, 07:12:43 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.

Stoke certainly don't have the 9th best!

I know, liverpool are shite.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on May 28, 2016, 08:07:09 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.

Pretty deluded.  You were relegated with a game to spare and deservedly so.  Maybe your squad simply isn't as good as you seem to think it is.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 28, 2016, 08:35:54 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.

Pretty deluded.  You were relegated with a game to spare and deservedly so.  Maybe your squad simply isn't as good as you seem to think it is.

Amazing the relegation favourites gaffer gets them 13th and gets 45 points and gets sacked, but Im deluded. How am I deluded to suggest to suggested that squad ability is better than final position, it seems your understanding of squad vs form is equal to your understanding of remotely? Lets be realistic though, you seen your beloved norwich with ighalo get criticised and harry hardon for the hornets got so mad he started being dramatic? Why dont you start your own watford thread, you cant start with a quiz who can name more than two watford players.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on May 28, 2016, 08:43:28 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.

Pretty deluded.  You were relegated with a game to spare and deservedly so.  Maybe your squad simply isn't as good as you seem to think it is.

Amazing the relegation favourites gaffer gets them 13th and gets 45 points and gets sacked, but Im deluded. How am I deluded to suggest to suggested that squad ability is better than final position, it seems your understanding of squad vs form is equal to your understanding of remotely? Lets be realistic though, you seen your beloved norwich with ighalo get criticised and harry hardon for the hornets got so mad he started being dramatic? Why dont you start your own watford thread, you cant start with a quiz who can name more than two watford players.

The fact that you can't name more than 2 Watford players is likely the reason you have an inflated opinion of your own relegated squad?  I'll leave you to believe Newcastle still have a solid Premier League squad and that the only reason they went down was because they were in poor form.  For 38 games.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 28, 2016, 08:56:36 PM
I backed the Relegation favs to go down with a certain Mr Dung!!  Don't rub it in John!   :o

PM me your bank details Dung btw so i can weigh you in! 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 28, 2016, 08:56:41 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.

Pretty deluded.  You were relegated with a game to spare and deservedly so.  Maybe your squad simply isn't as good as you seem to think it is.

Amazing the relegation favourites gaffer gets them 13th and gets 45 points and gets sacked, but Im deluded. How am I deluded to suggest to suggested that squad ability is better than final position, it seems your understanding of squad vs form is equal to your understanding of remotely? Lets be realistic though, you seen your beloved norwich with ighalo get criticised and harry hardon for the hornets got so mad he started being dramatic? Why dont you start your own watford thread, you cant start with a quiz who can name more than two watford players.

The fact that you can't name more than 2 Watford players is likely the reason you have an inflated opinion of your own relegated squad?  I'll leave you to believe Newcastle still have a solid Premier League squad and that the only reason they went down was because they were in poor form.  For 38 games.

On a poker forum the fact that you think 38 is a reasonable sample thats funny, granted not as funny as thinking 2 games is remotely different but cheers for the laughs. For serious though I think I can name 6 watford players tho, igloo, deeney, that keeper who was shit at spurs, Enya, john barnes and that bloke who used to play exhibitions at wimbledon with the tash.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on May 28, 2016, 09:01:40 PM
Well Watford beat you 3 times out of 3 in all competitions.  And both the league games were comfortable.  At some point you have to actually perform in a league season and otherwise concede that you're not as good as you think you are?  And if Sunderland weren't there I think it is correct to say you weren't remotely close to staying up.  It was apparent it was Villa plus 2 out of 3 by about March.

Yeah and chelsea have the 10th best squad in the league.

Pretty deluded.  You were relegated with a game to spare and deservedly so.  Maybe your squad simply isn't as good as you seem to think it is.

Amazing the relegation favourites gaffer gets them 13th and gets 45 points and gets sacked, but Im deluded. How am I deluded to suggest to suggested that squad ability is better than final position, it seems your understanding of squad vs form is equal to your understanding of remotely? Lets be realistic though, you seen your beloved norwich with ighalo get criticised and harry hardon for the hornets got so mad he started being dramatic? Why dont you start your own watford thread, you cant start with a quiz who can name more than two watford players.

The fact that you can't name more than 2 Watford players is likely the reason you have an inflated opinion of your own relegated squad?  I'll leave you to believe Newcastle still have a solid Premier League squad and that the only reason they went down was because they were in poor form.  For 38 games.

On a poker forum the fact that you think 38 is a reasonable sample thats funny, granted not as funny as thinking 2 games is remotely different but cheers for the laughs. For serious though I think I can name 6 watford players tho, igloo, deeney, that keeper who was shit at spurs, Enya, john barnes and that bloke who used to play exhibitions at wimbledon with the tash.

So you're not qualified to judge Newcastle's squad compared to rivals assuming you have the same knowledge about Bournemouth and West Brom.  I admire you being guided by blind faith.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: dino1980 on May 28, 2016, 09:17:01 PM
Bournemouth underperformed not over performed this season of that much I can be certain. Their two biggest attacking threats were out for the vast majority of the season. I expect them to kick on significantly next season. Especially if they replace Boruc.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 28, 2016, 09:19:07 PM
Bournemouth underperformed not over performed this season of that much I can be certain. Their two biggest attacking threats were out for the vast majority of the season. I expect them to kick on significantly next season. Especially if they replace Boruc.

Correct.  Was going to say that earlier.  WBA biggest over achievers along with Stoke.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on May 28, 2016, 09:50:18 PM
I backed the Relegation favs to go down with a certain Mr Dung!!  Don't rub it in John!   :o

PM me your bank details Dung btw so i can weigh you in! 

Cheers bud - just sent you PM


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 28, 2016, 09:58:17 PM
Bournemouth underperformed not over performed this season of that much I can be certain. Their two biggest attacking threats were out for the vast majority of the season. I expect them to kick on significantly next season. Especially if they replace Boruc.

Correct.  Was going to say that earlier.  WBA biggest over achievers along with Stoke.

leicester....


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 28, 2016, 09:59:20 PM
Bournemouth underperformed not over performed this season of that much I can be certain. Their two biggest attacking threats were out for the vast majority of the season. I expect them to kick on significantly next season. Especially if they replace Boruc.

Correct.  Was going to say that earlier.  WBA biggest over achievers along with Stoke.

leicester....

Obviously that was assumed!!!  I was talking less obvious ones.  Numerous good judges had WBA as a bottom 3 side stats wise over the season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: dino1980 on May 28, 2016, 10:39:00 PM
Bournemouth underperformed not over performed this season of that much I can be certain. Their two biggest attacking threats were out for the vast majority of the season. I expect them to kick on significantly next season. Especially if they replace Boruc.

Correct.  Was going to say that earlier.  WBA biggest over achievers along with Stoke.

leicester....

Obviously that was assumed!!!  I was talking less obvious ones.  Numerous good judges had WBA as a bottom 3 side stats wise over the season.

Pullis hey! Saw some tweet at the end of the season about the points his team's have accumulated each season in the premier league and it's scarily close each season. Think Stoke, Villa & WBA were the only worse shots per game teams than United this season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 28, 2016, 10:41:11 PM
Bournemouth underperformed not over performed this season of that much I can be certain. Their two biggest attacking threats were out for the vast majority of the season. I expect them to kick on significantly next season. Especially if they replace Boruc.

Correct.  Was going to say that earlier.  WBA biggest over achievers along with Stoke.

leicester....

Obviously that was assumed!!!  I was talking less obvious ones.  Numerous good judges had WBA as a bottom 3 side stats wise over the season.

Nothing more obvious than pulis not getting relegated though.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 29, 2016, 03:43:02 PM
Newcastle deserved to go down based on the performance over 38 games. You, Villa and Sunderland have been incredibly shit the last few years. Hopefully Sunderland drop next time round.

If you had beaten Watford (a team you think you are better than for some odd reason) in one of the two games you would have stayed up. Now you have away days at Burton.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 29, 2016, 11:29:32 PM
Newcastle deserved to go down based on the performance over 38 games. You, Villa and Sunderland have been incredibly shit the last few years. Hopefully Sunderland drop next time round.

If you had beaten Watford (a team you think you are better than for some odd reason) in one of the two games you would have stayed up. Now you have away days at Burton.

Cheers michael


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on June 07, 2016, 12:39:11 PM
Ashley live on BBC/skynews now being quizzed about his SD empire in from of MP's.   Never heard him speak before.   He doesn't sound very well educated or spoken in the slightest.  Easy to see how he rubs people up the wrong way.  He seems very abrupt in his manner and easy to see how he potentially has a bully boy style culture in his business.

Also easy to see how he has become so rich from nothing because you need his manner at times to get on.

The guy chairing this meeting is so annoying and corporate and tilting the shit out of Ashley!

Why is Ashley being held to account for his worker's actions outside of the workplace getting pissed outside of work hours?  I feel for Ashley a bit here because it seems PC gone mad at times some of the things SD do are perfectly fine in a controlled workplace.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on June 07, 2016, 08:26:11 PM
Ashley live on BBC/skynews now being quizzed about his SD empire in from of MP's.   Never heard him speak before.   He doesn't sound very well educated or spoken in the slightest.  Easy to see how he rubs people up the wrong way.  He seems very abrupt in his manner and easy to see how he potentially has a bully boy style culture in his business.

Also easy to see how he has become so rich from nothing because you need his manner at times to get on.

The guy chairing this meeting is so annoying and corporate and tilting the shit out of Ashley!

Why is Ashley being held to account for his worker's actions outside of the workplace getting pissed outside of work hours?  I feel for Ashley a bit here because it seems PC gone mad at times some of the things SD do are perfectly fine in a controlled workplace.

I think he came across quite well, in that he just seemed like a wideboy done good. He didnt come off a smug condescending tool like all the normal corporations roll out. Hes made a living out of pushing the lines and rules and least he was willing to accept things he didnt agree within his business, whether he does much who knows but least he wasnt all spin and dealt with what was being said. Think theres a serious problem of how people are being treated in the workplace and alot of places are pushing their luck on a wide range of issues. Least he had the balls to answer honestly instead of hiding behind jargon. He could have been a prick the way corporations usually are and parrot out the same tripe we all knows is lies.

I have no love for ashley or the way he does business, respect for what hes achieved, but I felt he dealt with the interview like a normal bloke and thought it was quite endearing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DropTheHammer on June 08, 2016, 12:17:46 AM
He seems very abrupt in his manner and easy to see how he potentially has a bully boy style culture in his business.

I used to work for SD and can confirm that a lot of those higher up fit this description. They work their employees hard, with the salaried full-timers on a minimum of 10 hour days, 5 days a week. Often you'd be summoned, with less than a week's notice, to go and re-fit a new shop in another County so you'd have 12+ hour days there. Then there were stocktake weeks which were 70 hour weeks.

However, the pay was very good with all the performance bonuses linked to the share price. Bonuses of double people's annual salaries were paid numerous times and there was progression available for hard workers.

There were some perks too as I once went to St James's park and sat in the Directors' box with colleagues and MA's PA. She was very game and made sure we all got slaughtered on the free drinks during the game and afterwards.

The guy chairing this meeting is so annoying and corporate and tilting the shit out of Ashley!

One thing MA is not, is corporate! Everyone wore tracksuits to work all the way up the chain almost to the top. There were cowboys all the way to the top in this company. One of his right-hand women (Karen Byers) was as rough as cheese/hard as nails.


Hes made a living out of pushing the lines and rules

Indeed he has. A good example was that his stores rarely kept to the legal opening hours on Sundays in order to squeeze more sales in when customers got to the retail parks and the other stores were closed.


Think theres a serious problem of how people are being treated in the workplace and alot of places are pushing their luck on a wide range of issues.

Store managers would use the zero hours contract as a way to cherry-pick the best workers and elbow out the ones they didn't like by just constantly giving them low/no hours. The workers would get the hump and then leave, so they always had to be on their toes to keep working. I can see how (sadly) some of the unscrupulous managers could abuse their position of power.



I have no love for ashley or the way he does business, respect for what hes achieved, but I felt he dealt with the interview like a normal bloke and thought it was quite endearing.

He is a very good retail business man. Taking established/quality brand names that were struggling and buying them on the cheap then manufacturing everything much cheaper/slashing the RRPs was a master-stroke. But when they came in the store at 75% off from the outset, you knew that they'd never been on sale at the original (often inflated/ripoff) prices! Ashley's mission was to cripple all the other sports retailers because of historic feuds and that was the main driving force behind his extreme work ethic.




Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: booder on June 08, 2016, 11:37:27 AM
He seems very abrupt in his manner and easy to see how he potentially has a bully boy style culture in his business.

I used to work for SD and can confirm that a lot of those higher up fit this description. They work their employees hard, with the salaried full-timers on a minimum of 10 hour days, 5 days a week. Often you'd be summoned, with less than a week's notice, to go and re-fit a new shop in another County so you'd have 12+ hour days there. Then there were stocktake weeks which were 70 hour weeks.

However, the pay was very good with all the performance bonuses linked to the share price. Bonuses of double people's annual salaries were paid numerous times and there was progression available for hard workers.

There were some perks too as I once went to St James's park and sat in the Directors' box with colleagues and MA's PA. She was very game and made sure we all got slaughtered on the free drinks during the game and afterwards.

The guy chairing this meeting is so annoying and corporate and tilting the shit out of Ashley!

One thing MA is not, is corporate! Everyone wore tracksuits to work all the way up the chain almost to the top. There were cowboys all the way to the top in this company. One of his right-hand women (Karen Byers) was as rough as cheese/hard as nails.


Hes made a living out of pushing the lines and rules

Indeed he has. A good example was that his stores rarely kept to the legal opening hours on Sundays in order to squeeze more sales in when customers got to the retail parks and the other stores were closed.


Think theres a serious problem of how people are being treated in the workplace and alot of places are pushing their luck on a wide range of issues.

Store managers would use the zero hours contract as a way to cherry-pick the best workers and elbow out the ones they didn't like by just constantly giving them low/no hours. The workers would get the hump and then leave, so they always had to be on their toes to keep working. I can see how (sadly) some of the unscrupulous managers could abuse their position of power.



I have no love for ashley or the way he does business, respect for what hes achieved, but I felt he dealt with the interview like a normal bloke and thought it was quite endearing.

He is a very good retail business man. Taking established/quality brand names that were struggling and buying them on the cheap then manufacturing everything much cheaper/slashing the RRPs was a master-stroke. But when they came in the store at 75% off from the outset, you knew that they'd never been on sale at the original (often inflated/ripoff) prices! Ashley's mission was to cripple all the other sports retailers because of historic feuds and that was the main driving force behind his extreme work ethic.





Always interesting to hear an "insider's " views ,  thank you for sharing.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on June 08, 2016, 11:16:48 PM
He seems very abrupt in his manner and easy to see how he potentially has a bully boy style culture in his business.

I used to work for SD and can confirm that a lot of those higher up fit this description. They work their employees hard, with the salaried full-timers on a minimum of 10 hour days, 5 days a week. Often you'd be summoned, with less than a week's notice, to go and re-fit a new shop in another County so you'd have 12+ hour days there. Then there were stocktake weeks which were 70 hour weeks.

However, the pay was very good with all the performance bonuses linked to the share price. Bonuses of double people's annual salaries were paid numerous times and there was progression available for hard workers.

There were some perks too as I once went to St James's park and sat in the Directors' box with colleagues and MA's PA. She was very game and made sure we all got slaughtered on the free drinks during the game and afterwards.

The guy chairing this meeting is so annoying and corporate and tilting the shit out of Ashley!

One thing MA is not, is corporate! Everyone wore tracksuits to work all the way up the chain almost to the top. There were cowboys all the way to the top in this company. One of his right-hand women (Karen Byers) was as rough as cheese/hard as nails.


Hes made a living out of pushing the lines and rules

Indeed he has. A good example was that his stores rarely kept to the legal opening hours on Sundays in order to squeeze more sales in when customers got to the retail parks and the other stores were closed.


Think theres a serious problem of how people are being treated in the workplace and alot of places are pushing their luck on a wide range of issues.

Store managers would use the zero hours contract as a way to cherry-pick the best workers and elbow out the ones they didn't like by just constantly giving them low/no hours. The workers would get the hump and then leave, so they always had to be on their toes to keep working. I can see how (sadly) some of the unscrupulous managers could abuse their position of power.



I have no love for ashley or the way he does business, respect for what hes achieved, but I felt he dealt with the interview like a normal bloke and thought it was quite endearing.

He is a very good retail business man. Taking established/quality brand names that were struggling and buying them on the cheap then manufacturing everything much cheaper/slashing the RRPs was a master-stroke. But when they came in the store at 75% off from the outset, you knew that they'd never been on sale at the original (often inflated/ripoff) prices! Ashley's mission was to cripple all the other sports retailers because of historic feuds and that was the main driving force behind his extreme work ethic.





Always interesting to hear an "insider's " views ,  thank you for sharing.

this, cheers


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on July 01, 2016, 10:24:19 AM
Absolutely gutted to lose Townsend, he's one of best signings we've made in last 10 year. Can't help but feel he's gonna regret it in a year. Working under Benitez for a season in championship > prem under Pardew and it's not close.

Happy with the signings we seem to be making and you can just tell Rafa is making a big effort to getting the club ran close to how it should.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on July 02, 2016, 11:15:59 AM
Such an odd move. I get wanting to be in the prem and he doesn't really owe us anything, but palace?? He had a great chance to really get his career going under the guidance of one of the games great managers but instead he wants to go and play for Alan Pardew? The guy who ruins 90% of players he has. Weird.

Also I hope he got another relegation release clause put in because I can see us swapping places next season.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on July 02, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
Good signings so far for Newcastle.  Marshall and Ritchie.  Going to romp the Championship surely as they are going to end up with a stronger squad than their premier league team.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on July 02, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
do you expect any others to jump ship?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on July 02, 2016, 01:43:03 PM
Sissoko will definitely go, most likely Wijnaldum will also. Don't expect many others to move unless surplus to requirements. Really hope Colocinni is away, he's a huge piss taker and gets no stick from the fans.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on July 02, 2016, 01:54:45 PM
Sissoko will definitely go, most likely Wijnaldum will also. Don't expect many others to move unless surplus to requirements. Really hope Colocinni is away, he's a huge piss taker and gets no stick from the fans.

Would agree with that, think krul will be away when hes fit as we have paid a bit for Sels and were very keen to bring him in quickly (think a few prem teams sniffing around). Sissoko is an dick and I dont care how good he is in the championship, hes a deluded annoying cretin. Wiljnaldum has done too much for his rep with goals for holland in friendlies for teams to not be interested, only thing is we know this and will hold for a price prem teams may be unwiling to pay to a championship club.

Really like how rafa is building some british players in, was the only concern they werent up on the english game but clearly they were well prepared for it. Still hope he can find a few continental diamonds tho with their experience.


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Post by: mondatoo on July 02, 2016, 02:55:49 PM
I wouldn't have any complaints if Krul wanted to leave, gl to him, hope he stays obv.

Anyone know how the new Kanu did at Ipswich ? I can't see a reason not to take a punt on him on a free, worldy aside he's been very impressive leading the line for Wales.


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Post by: toddswain on July 02, 2016, 04:32:39 PM
I'd drive sissoko and wijnaldum to their next club myself, no bottle and no heart in either of them. Agree colo has to go, can finally fuck off to Argentina where he's wanted to go for 4 seasons now.


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Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
Moussa Sissoko's agent angered after Newcastle slap £35m price tag on star http://dailym.ai/29A8uNg


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Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2016, 01:33:57 PM
Moussa Sissoko's agent angered after Newcastle slap £35m price tag on star http://dailym.ai/29A8uNg

Seems more than fair in the current market.


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Post by: JohnCharver on July 12, 2016, 05:30:10 PM
Moussa Sissoko's agent angered after Newcastle slap £35m price tag on star http://dailym.ai/29A8uNg

Not as annoyed as toon fans watching that performance.


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Post by: toddswain on July 22, 2016, 07:42:30 PM
Just me that's more excited for this season than they have for god knows how long. Just need to sell a few more to free up some squad places/wages etc. Think sissoko riviere and goufrann will go, and hopefully bring in one or two more.

Loving the start of the ' rafalution '


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on July 22, 2016, 09:26:46 PM
Are some of these guys you are trying to ditch on big contracts.  Got to think they will do a "Bogarde" if so given how much their stock has fallen.


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Post by: JohnCharver on July 22, 2016, 10:35:03 PM
Are some of these guys you are trying to ditch on big contracts.  Got to think they will do a "Bogarde" if so given how much their stock has fallen.

We look like we are rolling the dice on the wage bill (will be a championship record apparently). We have players like shelvey on silly money for how hes played but the only option is to try to use him as doubt we will get nything but big loss/ him refusing to take pay cut for west brom etc. We had the 3rd biggest ever last time anyway, below norwichs last yoyo, and qprs relagated team. Our revenue versus most of the rest will bridge the gap and we have removed some of the utter drains, colo and taylor etc, but our wage bill will be 70ish, probably more than double average, and treble or more a fair few. It would probably be best to sell sissoko aswell and the wage bill isnt really a problem anymore, when real give us 35m?


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Post by: DungBeetle on July 22, 2016, 10:58:29 PM
Are some of these guys you are trying to ditch on big contracts.  Got to think they will do a "Bogarde" if so given how much their stock has fallen.

We look like we are rolling the dice on the wage bill (will be a championship record apparently). We have players like shelvey on silly money for how hes played but the only option is to try to use him as doubt we will get nything but big loss/ him refusing to take pay cut for west brom etc. We had the 3rd biggest ever last time anyway, below norwichs last yoyo, and qprs relagated team. Our revenue versus most of the rest will bridge the gap and we have removed some of the utter drains, colo and taylor etc, but our wage bill will be 70ish, probably more than double average, and treble or more a fair few. It would probably be best to sell sissoko aswell and the wage bill isnt really a problem anymore, when real give us 35m?

I expect Newcastle to be at 100 points of thereabout.  They have a better squad now than last season with Ritchie/Gayle and others.  Don't see paying Shelvey as a problem for the year - he's going to be such a cut above the Champ.  The worry I would have is the guys who are on "medium" contracts by Premier League standards on 40k/50k a week who haven't settled for whatever reason - they are a millstone and just don't see how you can shift them.  Anyway - win the league and no harm done.


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Post by: JohnCharver on July 22, 2016, 11:37:59 PM
Are some of these guys you are trying to ditch on big contracts.  Got to think they will do a "Bogarde" if so given how much their stock has fallen.

We look like we are rolling the dice on the wage bill (will be a championship record apparently). We have players like shelvey on silly money for how hes played but the only option is to try to use him as doubt we will get nything but big loss/ him refusing to take pay cut for west brom etc. We had the 3rd biggest ever last time anyway, below norwichs last yoyo, and qprs relagated team. Our revenue versus most of the rest will bridge the gap and we have removed some of the utter drains, colo and taylor etc, but our wage bill will be 70ish, probably more than double average, and treble or more a fair few. It would probably be best to sell sissoko aswell and the wage bill isnt really a problem anymore, when real give us 35m?

I expect Newcastle to be at 100 points of thereabout.  They have a better squad now than last season with Ritchie/Gayle and others.  Don't see paying Shelvey as a problem for the year - he's going to be such a cut above the Champ.  The worry I would have is the guys who are on "medium" contracts by Premier League standards on 40k/50k a week who haven't settled for whatever reason - they are a millstone and just don't see how you can shift them.  Anyway - win the league and no harm done.

Yeah theres a lot of french dross, the only people who would take them would be the french, for little to no fee and a big cut in wages (makes them impossible to offload as they wont go). The flip side is a few big sales and their wages are paid for. The thing is though, last time we were relegated was the making of some of our players, inparticularly colo, who was awful the 1st time in prem, then was one of the top performers when we returned. It can act as a intro to english football and a chance to develop at an easier pace. We dont know whos crap and who might just get there if they get a bit of time. Our players imo will be overrated if we piss the league, as was the case last time, there was easy sales to cover the detour.

Really dont see us in trouble even if we fail to bounce back (cant see it, really poor league, filled with damaged clubs/clubs who want winfall but wont gamble on staying there through burnt fingers), we have assets and good turnover, the problems would occur when ashley finished buying his way back into the premiership and tried to balance the books when we are established.


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Post by: PathFinder on August 05, 2016, 11:38:53 PM
Good signings so far for Newcastle.  Marshall and Ritchie.  Going to romp the Championship surely as they are going to end up with a stronger squad than their premier league team.

Welcome to the Championship 8)


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Post by: tikay on August 17, 2016, 10:52:52 AM

How do you boys see tonight panning out?

2 games means nothing, but as it stands, they gotta feel a bit of pressure this evening. 


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Post by: DungBeetle on August 17, 2016, 11:46:16 AM
Reading the latest team to shine in their cup final imo :)


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Post by: toddswain on August 17, 2016, 01:56:09 PM
The histeria over us losing the first two games is just ridiculous, yea it's not ideal but hardly the end of the world.

There was a list of previous seasons and how winners/teams promoted did in their first 5 games And we don't need to panic just yet.

That being said tonight's cup final is one we need to win 😛🎣


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Post by: Cf on August 17, 2016, 03:34:30 PM
It's obviously a poor start but I think we'll still be fine.

The amount of rebuilding Rafa has had to be getting on with is ridiculous and shows how badly run things had been run previously.


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Post by: PokerBroker on August 17, 2016, 03:49:56 PM
When do you start to panic though?  You can give Brighton/Norwich etc. a 7 point start. 


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Post by: Cf on August 17, 2016, 04:37:57 PM
When do you start to panic though?  You can give Brighton/Norwich etc. a 7 point start. 

It's a 138 point season. Everyone will lose a few at some point.


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Post by: toddswain on August 17, 2016, 07:53:51 PM
Wow I don't know what to say about tonight's line up, captain lascelles dropped after two games... And goufrann starting!!


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Post by: toddswain on August 17, 2016, 11:02:32 PM
Happy with that. Hopefully Rafa dropping lascelles shows everyone that they ain't a gauranteed pick and they start performing for their places.

Apparently goufrann got a standing ovation...

InRafaWeTrust


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Post by: toddswain on August 22, 2016, 10:47:41 PM
Strong rumours going round that we are in talks with bas dost from Wolfsburg... That would be some coup.


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Post by: TightEnd on August 24, 2016, 03:34:15 PM
Newcastle defender Daryl Janmaat joins Watford after completing £7m switch from Newcastle http://dailym.ai/2bhXhR8


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 24, 2016, 04:27:25 PM
Newcastle defender Daryl Janmaat joins Watford after completing £7m switch from Newcastle http://dailym.ai/2bhXhR8

Not overly fussed about this one. He got forward well but often left us exposed at the back and lacked the end product to make up for it.


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Post by: Ant040689 on August 24, 2016, 04:40:52 PM
Do you guys just play Gayle up front by himself?

Really didn't work in the premiership but if it does in the championship fair play. Always thought he could only operate with a partner.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DMorgan on August 24, 2016, 04:58:30 PM
Hands off Alan Judge please :(


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 24, 2016, 05:09:03 PM
Do you guys just play Gayle up front by himself?

Really didn't work in the premiership but if it does in the championship fair play. Always thought he could only operate with a partner.

He's been playing uptop with 3 behind him for first 4 games. Expected to change to two uptop now mitro is back, mitro and him should be a good partnership, mitro one of best I've seen for a long time for his age at holding the ball up, wether it be in the air or in at his feet and feeding wingers/strikers.

Had an aguero/gayle double at 44/1 to both be top scorers in relavant leagues.. Hope they carry on as they've started


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 24, 2016, 05:10:32 PM
Hands off Alan Judge please :(

Lots of talk on this one, he only broke his leg in April and won't be fit till November, seems a weird buy.  Apparently he was in the stands last night. Highly rated ? Expected fee if it was to go through ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Ant040689 on August 24, 2016, 05:19:06 PM
Do you guys just play Gayle up front by himself?

Really didn't work in the premiership but if it does in the championship fair play. Always thought he could only operate with a partner.

He's been playing uptop with 3 behind him for first 4 games. Expected to change to two uptop now mitro is back, mitro and him should be a good partnership, mitro one of best I've seen for a long time for his age at holding the ball up, wether it be in the air or in at his feet and feeding wingers/strikers.

Had an aguero/gayle double at 44/1 to both be top scorers in relavant leagues.. Hope they carry on as they've started

Expect Gayle to be more potent with a target man with him.

He was the most aggravating purchase we ever made probably. Bundles of talent, one of the best natural finishers around, but bought for a team that for some reason and excruciatingly never played two up top ever.

I hope it severely pisses me off how well he does and he makes a mockery of the league.


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Post by: DMorgan on August 24, 2016, 07:47:43 PM
Hands off Alan Judge please :(

Lots of talk on this one, he only broke his leg in April and won't be fit till November, seems a weird buy.  Apparently he was in the stands last night. Highly rated ? Expected fee if it was to go through ?


He was second in the league for assists last season, very narrowly lost out to Andre Grey for player of the year. Very responsible defensively a couple of years back when we made the playoffs and did even better as a number 10 last year especially in the months before he broke his leg but without the injury he would probably be gone already

We wanted £8m in January but that was before the injury and was when he was approaching his career peak production wise. Grey went for £9m so I guess he goes for 5.5-7m range



Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: rinswun on August 24, 2016, 09:01:59 PM
No chance we get anywhere close to 5.5 mil! We'll get 2mil with some add ons and be glad about it. Contract up in the summer, unavailable until Nov earliest. Had he not had his leg broken at Ipswich, he'd have gone for £6mil in June and we'd have reinvested in a couple of decent wingers. Sadly, that horrendous challenge has cost Judge a major tournament and us a big sale.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DMorgan on August 24, 2016, 10:27:45 PM
Cheers for clearing that up, I struggle to get my head round football transfer fees

I mainly follow NHL ice hockey where player values are an average of their salary against the cap so when a $5m/yr player is traded, he is still a $5m/yr player whether he's in year 1 or year 5 of his contract and the actual $ wages paid to the player in whatever particular year is a footnote rather than the headline figure


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: rinswun on August 25, 2016, 12:00:10 AM
Cheers for clearing that up, I struggle to get my head round football transfer fees

I mainly follow NHL ice hockey where player values are an average of their salary against the cap so when a $5m/yr player is traded, he is still a $5m/yr player whether he's in year 1 or year 5 of his contract and the actual $ wages paid to the player in whatever particular year is a footnote rather than the headline figure

Best analogy in that instance then is a non-playoff team offloading an impending free agent star at the trade deadline(Eric Staal last season for example), knowing that they are going to lose them for nothing in the summer. They will get a reasonable return - a decent prospect plus a couple of picks maybe - as the receiving team are getting a stud for the rest of the reg season and playoffs, but they wouldn't get the incredible return they'd get if had him under contract for a much longer period (eg Weber for Subban).

I'm actually in a really deep - 28 man active roster, 28 prospect farm (840 players owned overall!) - NHL Dynasty league entering its 11th season so I'm a pretty big fan too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DMorgan on August 25, 2016, 02:23:45 AM
Oh man, dynasty leagues are dangerous! If I got involved in one of those I might never get anything else done! I'm an Oilers fan for my sins, really hoping that Larsson proves the haters wrong and crushes this year.

(Sorry for derail toon fans)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on August 25, 2016, 09:34:27 AM


Guys,

If there is an appetite for a NHL thread, I'll start one.

If it flops, & nobody uses it, no prob, it'll just fall off the page.

I'll set it up later this morning, & my post will include all my accumulated NHL knowledge.


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Post by: toddswain on August 25, 2016, 12:36:32 PM
Mitro and gayle out on Saturday.... Brutal


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Post by: anthonyl on August 25, 2016, 12:46:43 PM
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160825/gayle-and-mitrovic-ruled-out-for-brighton_2281670_5836235

Good job, we have no defenders.

Nailed on draw now.


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Post by: toddswain on August 27, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
Kinda underwhelmed at signing daryl murphy 😕


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Post by: toddswain on August 27, 2016, 07:24:21 PM
Hopefully they don't have another 871 attempts in second half to land one on murrays head.


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Post by: toddswain on August 27, 2016, 08:26:46 PM
Chuffed to finish that game with 11 players and a clean sheet after that first half. Good result, onto the next


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DMorgan on August 27, 2016, 10:33:17 PM


Guys,

If there is an appetite for a NHL thread, I'll start one.

If it flops, & nobody uses it, no prob, it'll just fall off the page.

I'll set it up later this morning, & my post will include all my accumulated NHL knowledge.


There might be a bit of tumbleweed in that thread Tony, especially at the moment in the off season. The league kicks off again in October so maybe then but its not the easiest sport to engage with from across the pond because all but a handful of the games start at midnight or later UK time. Its ideal for me  'cos I grind the graveyard shift so I can watch the games that start at 2am but thats not the greatest for generating interest on this side of the pond

Back on topic, toon looked fairly handy today. Definitely rooting for you guys make it back on the first attempt. While its nice to see smaller clubs like Watford and Bournemouth running with the big boys, the prem does seem poorer for toons absence.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2016, 01:05:43 PM
Callum McManaman will become Newcastle's 12th signing of the summer some time before Wednesday.


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Post by: Cf on August 30, 2016, 01:37:53 AM
Callum McManaman will become Newcastle's 12th signing of the summer some time before Wednesday.

He better fucking not.

Can't see him getting a good reception at all and quite rightly so.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 31, 2016, 01:47:40 PM
We seem to be playing hardball with Sissoko and quite right too.


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Post by: toddswain on August 31, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
I'm praying we sell him, our 35m valuation is pretty ridiculous, fk Daniel levy though, glad we fked him off. Sell for 20m plus to west brom or Everton to get him out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on August 31, 2016, 09:24:48 PM
Oh wow, Everton offered 30m.... Please agree terms 😂😂😂😂


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 01, 2016, 12:16:55 AM
£30m to Spurs apparently.

Completely fleeced them. £25m for Wijnaldum too.

Not bad players by any means but they'll be found out at those two clubs before long.

Well played Newcastle.


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Post by: buzzharvey22 on September 01, 2016, 12:19:43 AM
How on earth did you get 55m for them 2.

Good transfer window the toon. Got rid of the bad eggs and signed pretty well. Made good profit too.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 01, 2016, 02:24:04 PM
What an interview. He so gets it.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160901/rafa-reflects-on-a-summer-of-change_2281670_5855996


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: 77dave on September 03, 2016, 01:47:38 AM
what was newcastles net spend?

ha[[y with who came in? would you of liked more?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 03, 2016, 04:16:36 AM
what was newcastles net spend?

ha[[y with who came in? would you of liked more?

I think we did great business. I believe we made like 35m profit and of all the players that left only Townsend will be missed, not much could be done about that although it was a bit of a cock up to let him have such a cheap release clause.

Think we've targeted the right players to get us promoted and believe we will be strong enough to have a successful season so hopefully we recruit well next Summer if we do make it back to the Prem.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on September 03, 2016, 11:08:30 AM
Yea Townsend the hard one to take but we've bought extremely well and made a profit... So much for trying to buy the league..

It's so refreshing to know we've got multiple cover for literally every position and Anita isn't gonna have to fill in at any position at any given time. We've had 2/3 max centre backs for past 5 seasons or so, now we have 4/5 ppl that can play there


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: rinswun on September 03, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
Yea Townsend the hard one to take but we've bought extremely well and made a profit... So much for trying to buy the league.

The fact you made a profit is just indicative for the fact you ballsed up last year. As a result you were forced to sell unhappy players and were able to do so at  inflated prices due to the TV money on offer. In real terms you'll have been poorer off than if you'd have stayed in the prem and kept hold of the players.

In terms of transfer fees, you account for 25% of the money spent in the transfer fees spent in the Championship this summer. You spent 7x the average Championship club did and paid an average of 9x the championship average for each player you bought. Maybe you aren't trying to buy the league but you're certainly flexing your muscle and there are plenty of teams who won't be able to compete financially. The likelyhood is that you are overpaying for a lot of these players because of who you are and clubs and agents know this. You probably will get promoted but then you'll end up with a bunch of players who aren't good enough for the prem and who you end up offloading for less than you paid. Doesn't seem like great business to me.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on September 03, 2016, 05:36:31 PM
Yea Townsend the hard one to take but we've bought extremely well and made a profit... So much for trying to buy the league.

The fact you made a profit is just indicative for the fact you ballsed up last year. As a result you were forced to sell unhappy players and were able to do so at  inflated prices due to the TV money on offer. In real terms you'll have been poorer off than if you'd have stayed in the prem and kept hold of the players.

In terms of transfer fees, you account for 25% of the money spent in the transfer fees spent in the Championship this summer. You spent 7x the average Championship club did and paid an average of 9x the championship average for each player you bought. Maybe you aren't trying to buy the league but you're certainly flexing your muscle and there are plenty of teams who won't be able to compete financially. The likelyhood is that you are overpaying for a lot of these players because of who you are and clubs and agents know this. You probably will get promoted but then you'll end up with a bunch of players who aren't good enough for the prem and who you end up offloading for less than you paid. Doesn't seem like great business to me.

Wijnaldum and Sissoko which make up a big chunk of it would've 95+% certiainly left even if we'd stayed up.

Clearly we have more financial power than the rest of the teams in the League, what would you suggest would've been the best strategy regards us "overpaying for a lot of these players because of who you are and clubs and agents know this" ? Do you think it's bad business if we pay 5m for someone, they get us promoted and we sell him in a years time making a loss of £1-2m on them and receiving 80+ million from tv revenue the following season ?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on September 14, 2016, 09:10:09 AM
Should have gone for Pearson


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on September 29, 2016, 10:03:55 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctd_qWyWIAAuDoN.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 03, 2016, 10:58:05 PM
First time I've ever had chance to get away tickets... So here I come Barnsley 😂, Tuesday night game


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on October 19, 2016, 09:03:14 AM
Top of the league. Hopefully we stay there for the rest of the season :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 19, 2016, 06:33:17 PM
Have fun Todd ?

One thing I miss is the away games, will try for a ticket to the next one that goes on public sale.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 19, 2016, 08:12:51 PM
Have fun Todd ?

One thing I miss is the away games, will try for a ticket to the next one that goes on public sale.

You couldn't make it Up, first chance I've ever had to get tickets in away end, nevermind first chance I've had to get two tickets together in the away end... early finish planned from work etc, got sent to an emergency job and didn't leave Blackpool till 7pm... missed it. Beyond gutting


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Post by: mondatoo on October 21, 2016, 03:42:08 AM
Have fun Todd ?

One thing I miss is the away games, will try for a ticket to the next one that goes on public sale.

You couldn't make it Up, first chance I've ever had to get tickets in away end, nevermind first chance I've had to get two tickets together in the away end... early finish planned from work etc, got sent to an emergency job and didn't leave Blackpool till 7pm... missed it. Beyond gutting

:(

Lmk if you going to the next one and can sort summit out.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 24, 2016, 04:56:49 PM
Have fun Todd ?

One thing I miss is the away games, will try for a ticket to the next one that goes on public sale.

You couldn't make it Up, first chance I've ever had to get tickets in away end, nevermind first chance I've had to get two tickets together in the away end... early finish planned from work etc, got sent to an emergency job and didn't leave Blackpool till 7pm... missed it. Beyond gutting

:(

Lmk if you going to the next one and can sort summit out.

Gonna try go to atleast one of Blackburn, Leeds, Sheffield wed, Wigan... although Obv depends on allocations. I'll keep eyes peeled and let u know


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on October 24, 2016, 06:24:44 PM
Have fun Todd ?

One thing I miss is the away games, will try for a ticket to the next one that goes on public sale.

You couldn't make it Up, first chance I've ever had to get tickets in away end, nevermind first chance I've had to get two tickets together in the away end... early finish planned from work etc, got sent to an emergency job and didn't leave Blackpool till 7pm... missed it. Beyond gutting

:(

Lmk if you going to the next one and can sort summit out.

Gonna try go to atleast one of Blackburn, Leeds, Sheffield wed, Wigan... although Obv depends on allocations. I'll keep eyes peeled and let u know

They've already announced the games they're doing it for ? I've been to Blackburn and Wigan, sighs that Leeds is on a Sunday, would be in for Sheff Wed assuming it's not moved to Sunday.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on October 24, 2016, 07:15:00 PM
Didn't realised they had announced the games, just seen they're doing Wigan in December, it's only 20-30 min from me so hopefully defo do that


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on November 21, 2016, 05:27:40 PM
Ray, tough ask i know,  you know any season ticket holders that could get two Wigan tickets, will pay over face value ofc


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: mondatoo on November 22, 2016, 03:37:21 AM
Ray, tough ask i know,  you know any season ticket holders that could get two Wigan tickets, will pay over face value ofc

PMd


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on December 06, 2016, 09:05:09 PM
Both red cards rescinded by the FA.

Given both were before HT it's as close to coming to should be a rematch as you can get. Obviously not but we were basically cheated.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on December 15, 2016, 12:40:13 AM
Managed to get tickets to Wigan away tonight, was ridic good. 'We needed that second badly they was all over us


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 26, 2017, 10:15:52 AM
Uh oh, charnley arrested and nufc investigated by hmrc.... points deduction or transfer embargo potential.... either way not good


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on April 26, 2017, 09:30:02 PM
If anything happens as a result I doubt it will be any time soon.

Apparently it's something to do with Marseille.

Never a dull moment with us that's for sure.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 07, 2017, 02:07:45 PM
Wow what an exciting end to the season. How we've ended up top I don't know! Seems a bit of a bottle job from Brighton but fair play to us for pushing right until the end!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2017, 02:16:12 PM
Wow what an exciting end to the season. How we've ended up top I don't know! Seems a bit of a bottle job from Brighton but fair play to us for pushing right until the end!

Too many bottles job :D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on May 07, 2017, 02:42:42 PM
Brighton played best for 43 games and promotion, they partied and faded out, rafa kept us going for 46. Great end to a great season.  Now give that man what he wants Ashley.

P.s. To those that said Rafa doesn't know the championship, he just wrote a pretty good book on how to win it


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2017, 03:09:18 PM
Congrats boys. You've had it rougher than most fans for a good while.

My mate is selling wings down on the Quayside, if you want to help an independent startup out ;D


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 07, 2017, 03:10:24 PM
Brighton played best for 43 games and promotion, they partied and faded out, rafa kept us going for 46. Great end to a great season.  Now give that man what he wants Ashley.

P.s. To those that said Rafa doesn't know the championship, he just wrote a pretty good book on how to win it

Yes have a wage bill 50 times the size of your rivals!  Congrats btw.  You have cost the bookies a fortune which is always good.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on May 07, 2017, 03:12:23 PM
well done,hope Rafa stays for you

huge stroke of fortune for the short price ante-post season backers there, Brighton in the pub three games ago


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on May 07, 2017, 03:28:52 PM
Brighton played best for 43 games and promotion, they partied and faded out, rafa kept us going for 46. Great end to a great season.  Now give that man what he wants Ashley.

P.s. To those that said Rafa doesn't know the championship, he just wrote a pretty good book on how to win it

Yes have a wage bill 50 times the size of your rivals!  Congrats btw.  You have cost the bookies a fortune which is always good.

He hasnt done anything more than a par in reality? We didnt really win the league we were handed it after being outmatched in the run in. Cant really see any signings hes made will be a big hit in the PL, most have been tried and are squad players at best. The player they went straight out to get has become a 6m 4th string GK. He wasnt a great championship manager if you want a book let hughton write one, when he was given a similar job we smashed the league apart. Ashley will spend as the TV money is everything to him, and he spent when it was in danger last time. You cant really blame him for being sceptical thought weve signed some dross, players we prob cant sell as we havent exactly set the league alight.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: anthonyl on May 07, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Looks like Newcastle wasn't bothered about being promoted since it was expected.

Was at villa today, we deserved to lose against a really bad villa side but couldn't really care less. £200m locked up and a huge advantage if we go down still.

Rafa will leave in the summer soon as a big team comes in. Arsenal should grab him. Even with huge wage bill I bet Villa is close is enough and they came 13/14th. Easier said than done!


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 08, 2017, 07:27:54 AM
Rafa is going nowhere.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on June 05, 2017, 04:35:57 PM
Cheik tiote has passed away, gutting, rip

The 4-4 equaliser again arsenal will never be forgotten


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cavey007 on June 05, 2017, 05:10:41 PM
Cheik tiote has passed away, gutting, rip

The 4-4 equaliser again arsenal will never be forgotten

Shocking news, only 30 as well


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: booder on June 05, 2017, 06:14:16 PM
Shocking news indeed , R.I.P


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on July 27, 2017, 08:26:04 AM
Rafa Benitez's honeymoon period at Newcastle is over: He is frustrated at the lack of new stars http://dailym.ai/2uwHRAB

might he leave? what would be your reaction if he did?


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 10, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
Rafa Benitez admitted he is not happy with Newcastle's transfer business so far this summer: http://skysports.tv/3ccQWZ


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on August 11, 2017, 08:47:57 AM
He ain't going anywhere.

Hopefully we match our last premier league result this Sunday :)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: SuuPRlim on August 11, 2017, 09:07:39 AM
I knew that this exact thing was going to happen.

Mike Ashley promises Rafa £100m to spend. We don't get £100m, Rafa gets tilted.

was a bang on 1.01


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 12, 2017, 09:18:37 AM
Newcastle’s Mike Ashley: ‘I don’t have the cash to compete with top clubs’

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/11/mike-ashley-newcastle-spending-limitations-rafael-benitez?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: JohnCharver on August 12, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
Transfer window is ridiculous everyone wants far too much for players. Dont really blame anyone, got to calm down or we will end up panic buying a sissoko. We need a few more but not for prices we will regret later.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 15, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
nufc manager Rafa Benitez targets five more signings this month

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/14/newcastle-manager-rafa-benitez-targets-five-signings-month/


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 17, 2017, 09:23:43 AM
Newcastle complete £5m signing of Stoke striker Joselu on three-year deal http://dailym.ai/2w28WNm


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on August 23, 2017, 08:05:53 AM
Rob Elliot admits uncertainty hanging over signings at Newcastle is unfair on squad that got them promoted http://dailym.ai/2wkWWa9


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on September 04, 2017, 07:58:00 AM
Rafa Benitez would need to pay £5m to quit Newcastle and is reluctant to leave fans, players and staff in limbo http://dailym.ai/2iSPddI


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on September 04, 2017, 08:01:16 AM
'An Open Letter To Mike Ashley' https://goo.gl/jWDpFS


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on September 04, 2017, 10:10:19 AM
'An Open Letter To Mike Ashley' https://goo.gl/jWDpFS


"...WE are the reason that the club makes so much money from shirt and other merchandise sales...."


Oh dear.......

Anyone like to quantify how much profit the club makes from shirt & merchandise sales? It'll be a teeny weeny percentage of other income.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on October 17, 2017, 01:50:11 PM
Newcastle United put up for sale as Mike Ashley seeks swift exit

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/16/newcastle-united-put-up-for-sale-mike-ashley-swift-exit?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews#link_time=1508172887


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on October 20, 2017, 08:28:52 AM
Amanda Staveley signs Newcastle confidentiality agreement ahead of a potential bid for the club. Full story: http://skysports.tv/ETAdAP


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
Mike Ashley and Amanda Staveley close to striking a takeover deal for Newcastle United. £300m believed to have been offered.

Pragmatism appears to have taken hold ahead of the January transfer window and a team struggling in the league.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on December 14, 2017, 09:32:20 AM
Mike Ashley and Amanda Staveley close to striking a takeover deal for Newcastle United. £300m believed to have been offered.

Pragmatism appears to have taken hold ahead of the January transfer window and a team struggling in the league.

That might be a case of better the devil you know.

Ms Staveley is as sharp as a tack, but she's a trader, a wheeler-dealer. I can't imagine her designs on NUFC are altruistic, she only invests for one reason - to make money.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on January 19, 2018, 10:26:06 AM

This would-be deal trundles on oh-so-predictably.

Miss Staveley, who previously help sell Man City & tried to but Liverpool, insists she will "run it as a business".

On that, you can bet your house. 


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on January 22, 2018, 07:49:30 AM
I don't think anyone objects to a club being run as a business. That would be a considerable upgrade on what we have now.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on February 04, 2018, 09:52:29 AM
Jamie Carragher: Ambition, geography and finances are what players consider before moving clubs - Newcastle tick none of those boxes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/02/ambition-geography-finances-players-consider-moving-clubs/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVHCIeJX4AEJa9P.jpg)


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: DungBeetle on February 04, 2018, 10:46:09 AM
Jamie Carragher: Ambition, geography and finances are what players consider before moving clubs - Newcastle tick none of those boxes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/02/ambition-geography-finances-players-consider-moving-clubs/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVHCIeJX4AEJa9P.jpg)

Meh.  As a Londoner I’d love to live in the northeast.  Location is much nice than many clubs imo, including Liverpool obviously.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2018, 06:13:21 PM
quite the debut


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2018, 09:18:48 PM

^^^^

Ha.

Have to say, he was mightily impressive IMO.

A confident and assertive 'keeper makes a huge difference.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 15, 2018, 03:28:37 PM
What a team Jesus


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: pleno1 on April 15, 2018, 03:29:08 PM
Don't see how Lascelles/Shelvey don't go to WC now either. Two most important players.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on April 15, 2018, 05:20:21 PM
I played basketball years ago with Lascelles dad.  He was a pro in England for a decade great athlete and player and lovely guy.  Must be really proud of his son.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: toddswain on April 16, 2018, 05:24:19 PM
What a team Jesus

Unbelievable what rafas done, he’s just class. It’s ridiculous how important it is he stays, we need that new owner. A lot of talk about how good Shelvey and Lascelles have been, which is rightly deserved but special shoutout to Diame and dummett, the two most improved players for me


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: nirvana on April 16, 2018, 07:39:21 PM
What a team Jesus

Unbelievable what rafas done, he’s just class. It’s ridiculous how important it is he stays, we need that new owner. A lot of talk about how good Shelvey and Lascelles have been, which is rightly deserved but special shoutout to Diame and dummett, the two most improved players for me

I think Arse should go get the waiter..he's done really well and hard not have a load of admiration for what he's achieving there


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on May 13, 2018, 07:46:22 PM
Couldn’t really have asked for a better season. A major wobble mid way through but beyond that finished quite comfortably.

Sunderland down and Pardew and Carver relegating WBA is just icing on the cake.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: arbboy on May 18, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44171269

Some gamble by Ashley.  He likes a bet though.  £37.5m more than the previous seasons EPL wage bill in the championship.   Funny how people say he never spends the money.


Title: Re: Tales from the Toon. The ups and downs of an NUFC supporter....
Post by: Cf on November 04, 2018, 09:22:04 AM
What a state the league is in that our first win on the 11th game of the season takes us out of the relegation zone.